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Aug 1, 2017 12:06:55   #
KiraSeer2016
 
What do you all think is the difference? Wikipedia's exegesis of "Humility" seems more related to vanity, and doesn't even mention "Humility of spirit."

So, what are your thoughts and/or comments, if in fact you have any?




[[In the meantime, I'll give you an account I had recently with a black pastor wearing a T-shirt that said: "Only God can judge you". I related to him that I had had a run-in with a couple of young men, who after I called them on their rudeness and inconsideration, looked me in the face and said: "You can't judge me!"
To which I replied: "Only God can judge a soul; but I can, AND I WILL, judge behavior, and YOURS stinks!"
The message these spoiled kids are getting, Pastor, is they can do anything they want and get away with it, for who, after all, is allowed to judge? I suggest you readjust your ministry.]]

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Aug 1, 2017 12:13:21   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Kudos for standing up for decency. i can not believe the language and rudeness I here coming from the mouths of the younger generation. Of course we judge. It should be behavior. the soul belongs to God. We only rent it. You are spot on.
KiraSeer2016 wrote:
What do you all think is the difference? Wikipedia's exegesis of "Humility" seems more related to vanity, and doesn't even mention "Humility of spirit."

So, what are your thoughts and/or comments, if in fact you have any?




[[In the meantime, I'll give you an account I had recently with a black pastor wearing a T-shirt that said: "Only God can judge you". I related to him that I had had a run-in with a couple of young men, who after I called them on their rudeness and inconsideration, looked me in the face and said: "You can't judge me!"
To which I replied: "Only God can judge a soul; but I can, AND I WILL, judge behavior, and YOURS stinks!"
The message these spoiled kids are getting, Pastor, is they can do anything they want and get away with it, for who, after all, is allowed to judge? I suggest you readjust your ministry.]]
What do you all think is the difference? Wikipedi... (show quote)

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Aug 1, 2017 12:26:12   #
Mattie Silks
 
JFlorio wrote:
Kudos for standing up for decency. i can not believe the language and rudeness I here coming from the mouths of the younger generation. Of course we judge. It should be behavior. the soul belongs to God. We only rent it. You are spot on.


Thanks, JF. It is true; only God knows what is inside you, why you do the things you do. Humans can only observe actions: as Jesus said: "By their fruits will you know them."

I also told him, as an example of how I can, and will, (and why) judge behavior, that I don't want my daughters hanging around with potheads.

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Aug 1, 2017 14:32:34   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Mattie Silks wrote:
Thanks, JF. It is true; only God knows what is inside you, why you do the things you do. Humans can only observe actions: as Jesus said: "By their fruits will you know them."

I also told him, as an example of how I can, and will, (and why) judge behavior, that I don't want my daughters hanging around with potheads.


Honestly, Mattie, Carol, Kira, Hedgehog, how do you expect anyone to believe a word you say when you go by four different names? Now you've used two of them on the same thread. WTF? Are you psycho, or what?

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Aug 1, 2017 14:42:26   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
I didn't even notice. She should hook up with glaucon. They could have a kid with twenty personalities.
archie bunker wrote:
Honestly, Mattie, Carol, Kira, Hedgehog, how do you expect anyone to believe a word you say when you go by four different names? Now you've used two of them on the same thread. WTF? Are you psycho, or what?

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Aug 1, 2017 14:49:55   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
KiraSeer2016 wrote:
What do you all think is the difference? Wikipedia's exegesis of "Humility" seems more related to vanity, and doesn't even mention "Humility of spirit."

So, what are your thoughts and/or comments, if in fact you have any?




[[In the meantime, I'll give you an account I had recently with a black pastor wearing a T-shirt that said: "Only God can judge you". I related to him that I had had a run-in with a couple of young men, who after I called them on their rudeness and inconsideration, looked me in the face and said: "You can't judge me!"
To which I replied: "Only God can judge a soul; but I can, AND I WILL, judge behavior, and YOURS stinks!"
The message these spoiled kids are getting, Pastor, is they can do anything they want and get away with it, for who, after all, is allowed to judge? I suggest you readjust your ministry.]]
What do you all think is the difference? Wikipedi... (show quote)


Humility and judgment are apples and oranges. What's the difference between humbleness and humility? The Bible tells us to humble ourselves before the Lord, but mentions nothing about humility. "Humility of spirit" is word salad, meaning nothing in particular. Humility describes recognizing one's perceived status in the world, humbleness describes recognizing that we have none at all. For ALL have sinned and come short of the Glory of the Lord..........which leaves no room for humility, or judgment.

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Aug 1, 2017 14:50:55   #
KiraSeer2016
 
archie bunker wrote:
Honestly, Mattie, Carol, Kira, Hedgehog, how do you expect anyone to believe a word you say when you go by four different names? Now you've used two of them on the same thread. WTF? Are you psycho, or what?


Always keep them guessing. Anyway, I know you guys---you love a challenge. The challenge here being trying to figure me out.

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Aug 1, 2017 14:53:15   #
KiraSeer2016
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Humility and judgment are apples and oranges. What's the difference between humbleness and humility? The Bible tells us to humble ourselves before the Lord, but mentions nothing about humility. "Humility of spirit" is word salad, meaning nothing in particular. Humility describes recognizing one's perceived status in the world, humbleness describes recognizing that we have none at all. For ALL have sinned and come short of the Glory of the Lord..........which leaves no room for humility, or judgment.
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This is what "humility of spirit" is: The knowledge that one (yourself) is no worse than anyone else, nor is he (you) better than anyone else.

But I may read the Wikipedia article on "Humility" just to discover what it means to religious people. I may or may not let you know.

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Aug 1, 2017 14:55:48   #
KiraSeer2016
 
archie bunker wrote:
Honestly, Mattie, Carol, Kira, Hedgehog, how do you expect anyone to believe a word you say when you go by four different names? Now you've used two of them on the same thread. WTF? Are you psycho, or what?


Thanks for reminding me. Don't forget "LiberalLulu": 'The Liberals' Creed': http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-102404-1.html

I was going to repost it earlier, but forgot. Senior moment, whatever, you know how it is.

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Aug 1, 2017 14:57:11   #
KiraSeer2016
 
JFlorio wrote:
I didn't even notice. She should hook up with glaucon. They could have a kid with twenty personalities.


Oh, by the way, if you remember, I've already "unleashed my arsenal of feminine wiles" on glaucon. It didn't work. It didn't turn him into a conservative. It didn't even turn him into a pumpkin.

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Aug 1, 2017 14:58:38   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
KiraSeer2016 wrote:
Always keep them guessing. Anyway, I know you guys---you love a challenge. The challenge here being trying to figure me out.


That's easy. BTW.............how much are they paying you? I ask, because I could use some extra unreported cash too.

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Aug 1, 2017 14:59:05   #
KiraSeer2016
 
lpnmajor wrote:
That's easy. BTW.............how much are they paying you? I ask, because I could use some extra unreported cash too.


Who's paying me?

Anyway, when I said "guys" I wasn't including you in that classification.

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Aug 1, 2017 15:02:25   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
KiraSeer2016 wrote:
Who's paying me?

Anyway, when I said "guys" I wasn't including you in that classification.


Of course not, because you know I'm way more intelligent than you are............so it's no contest. You're certainly welcome to keep trying though, it's very amusing.

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Aug 1, 2017 15:04:47   #
LiberalLulu
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Humility and judgment are apples and oranges. What's the difference between humbleness and humility? The Bible tells us to humble ourselves before the Lord, but mentions nothing about humility. "Humility of spirit" is word salad, meaning nothing in particular. Humility describes recognizing one's perceived status in the world, humbleness describes recognizing that we have none at all. For ALL have sinned and come short of the Glory of the Lord..........which leaves no room for humility, or judgment.
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Boy, are you one cockeyed SOB. Probably spaced out on good works, like all the other Libbies.

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Aug 1, 2017 15:06:29   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
KiraSeer2016 wrote:
What do you all think is the difference? Wikipedia's exegesis of "Humility" seems more related to vanity, and doesn't even mention "Humility of spirit."

So, what are your thoughts and/or comments, if in fact you have any?




[[In the meantime, I'll give you an account I had recently with a black pastor wearing a T-shirt that said: "Only God can judge you". I related to him that I had had a run-in with a couple of young men, who after I called them on their rudeness and inconsideration, looked me in the face and said: "You can't judge me!"
To which I replied: "Only God can judge a soul; but I can, AND I WILL, judge behavior, and YOURS stinks!"
The message these spoiled kids are getting, Pastor, is they can do anything they want and get away with it, for who, after all, is allowed to judge? I suggest you readjust your ministry.]]
What do you all think is the difference? Wikipedi... (show quote)


Being perfect as I am, I have little need for humility, but I too, will judge behavior; both republican and democratic, liberal and conservative, left or right. The behavior of our "leaders" is becoming quite suspect.

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