Trump Just Resurrected the Ugly Practice Known as Civil Forfeiture for No Reason: can Trump supporters back this? Civil asset forfeiture is the latest dangerous from the Trump...

Eugene Debs

Civil asset forfeiture is the latest dangerous from the Trump administration. The new rule announced by the Justice Department won't just expand the practice. It's designed specifically to defeat protections passed at the state level.

It will almost certainly lead to abuse.

As reported by the Washington Post: "The Justice Department announced a new federal policy Wednesday to help state and local police take cash and property from people suspected of a crime, even without a criminal charge, reversing an Obama administration rule prompted by past abuse by police."

The practice is known as civil asset forfeiture. Under this law a police officer can seize any property he believes was involved in a crime without obtaining either a warrant or probable cause.

Originally, the government pushed forfeiture in the 1970s and 80s to fight drugs and organized crime. Law enforcement wanted to prevent criminals from disappearing the large amounts of cash that fuels their business, and so police were empowered to seize any money they believed was involved in a crime. Over the years, however, the practice has grown to the point where the government began seizing assets far beyond cash in a wide variety of situations, including cars, homes and even businesses.

Many local police departments have begun to rely on it as a revenue source, targeting out of town drivers in what are known as "cash-for-freedom" deals.

On average, only about one seizure in ten ever leads to criminal charges, but historically, defendants have struggled to get any of their money or property back. One investigation by the Washington Post found that between 2001 and 2014, state and local police departments had seized nearly $2.5 billion in collective assets without warrants. Often these seizures occur during unrelated traffic stops, during which the Post found that police "pressed [drivers] to agree to searches without warrants and seized large amounts of cash when there was no evidence of wrongdoing."

https://www.thestreet.com/story/14237541/1/civil-forfeiture-trump-resurrects-an-ugly-practice-for-no-reason.html?puc=yahoo&cm_ven=YAHOO&yptr=yahoo

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

Eugene Debs wrote:

Civil asset forfeiture is the latest dangerous from the Trump administration. The new rule announced by the Justice Department won't just expand the practice. It's designed specifically to defeat protections passed at the state level.

It will almost certainly lead to abuse.

As reported by the Washington Post: "The Justice Department announced a new federal policy Wednesday to help state and local police take cash and property from people suspected of a crime, even without a criminal charge, reversing an Obama administration rule prompted by past abuse by police."

The practice is known as civil asset forfeiture. Under this law a police officer can seize any property he believes was involved in a crime without obtaining either a warrant or probable cause.

Originally, the government pushed forfeiture in the 1970s and 80s to fight drugs and organized crime. Law enforcement wanted to prevent criminals from disappearing the large amounts of cash that fuels their business, and so police were empowered to seize any money they believed was involved in a crime. Over the years, however, the practice has grown to the point where the government began seizing assets far beyond cash in a wide variety of situations, including cars, homes and even businesses.

Many local police departments have begun to rely on it as a revenue source, targeting out of town drivers in what are known as "cash-for-freedom" deals.

On average, only about one seizure in ten ever leads to criminal charges, but historically, defendants have struggled to get any of their money or property back. One investigation by the Washington Post found that between 2001 and 2014, state and local police departments had seized nearly $2.5 billion in collective assets without warrants. Often these seizures occur during unrelated traffic stops, during which the Post found that police "pressed [drivers] to agree to searches without warrants and seized large amounts of cash when there was no evidence of wrongdoing."

https://www.thestreet.com/story/14237541/1/civil-forfeiture-trump-resurrects-an-ugly-practice-for-no-reason.html?puc=yahoo&cm_ven=YAHOO&yptr=yahoo

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The do civil forfeitures everywhere, and have been for a long time. Where have you people been? Oh yeah...voting for the people who think stealing from citizens is the way to finance the social programs they buy next election with. How is Trump responsible for a decades old problem...most of which is under the jurisdiction of states and municipalities? Federal civil forfeiture? What do you know about it to begin with? Who do the Feds target for civil forfeiture...mobsters...El Chapo? Sessions is probably going to go and you won't hear any more about it.

saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina

Eugene, I am not familiar with this policy, but thank you for informing us about it. IT SOUNDS LIKE A POLICY OF SOME FORIGN DICTATORSHIP. It's downright un American!

Eugene Debs wrote:

Civil asset forfeiture is the latest dangerous from the Trump administration. The new rule announced by the Justice Department won't just expand the practice. It's designed specifically to defeat protections passed at the state level.

It will almost certainly lead to abuse.

As reported by the Washington Post: "The Justice Department announced a new federal policy Wednesday to help state and local police take cash and property from people suspected of a crime, even without a criminal charge, reversing an Obama administration rule prompted by past abuse by police."

The practice is known as civil asset forfeiture. Under this law a police officer can seize any property he believes was involved in a crime without obtaining either a warrant or probable cause.

Originally, the government pushed forfeiture in the 1970s and 80s to fight drugs and organized crime. Law enforcement wanted to prevent criminals from disappearing the large amounts of cash that fuels their business, and so police were empowered to seize any money they believed was involved in a crime. Over the years, however, the practice has grown to the point where the government began seizing assets far beyond cash in a wide variety of situations, including cars, homes and even businesses.

Many local police departments have begun to rely on it as a revenue source, targeting out of town drivers in what are known as "cash-for-freedom" deals.

On average, only about one seizure in ten ever leads to criminal charges, but historically, defendants have struggled to get any of their money or property back. One investigation by the Washington Post found that between 2001 and 2014, state and local police departments had seized nearly $2.5 billion in collective assets without warrants. Often these seizures occur during unrelated traffic stops, during which the Post found that police "pressed [drivers] to agree to searches without warrants and seized large amounts of cash when there was no evidence of wrongdoing."

https://www.thestreet.com/story/14237541/1/civil-forfeiture-trump-resurrects-an-ugly-practice-for-no-reason.html?puc=yahoo&cm_ven=YAHOO&yptr=yahoo

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lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

Eugene Debs wrote:

Civil asset forfeiture is the latest dangerous from the Trump administration. The new rule announced by the Justice Department won't just expand the practice. It's designed specifically to defeat protections passed at the state level.

It will almost certainly lead to abuse.

As reported by the Washington Post: "The Justice Department announced a new federal policy Wednesday to help state and local police take cash and property from people suspected of a crime, even without a criminal charge, reversing an Obama administration rule prompted by past abuse by police."

The practice is known as civil asset forfeiture. Under this law a police officer can seize any property he believes was involved in a crime without obtaining either a warrant or probable cause.

Originally, the government pushed forfeiture in the 1970s and 80s to fight drugs and organized crime. Law enforcement wanted to prevent criminals from disappearing the large amounts of cash that fuels their business, and so police were empowered to seize any money they believed was involved in a crime. Over the years, however, the practice has grown to the point where the government began seizing assets far beyond cash in a wide variety of situations, including cars, homes and even businesses.

Many local police departments have begun to rely on it as a revenue source, targeting out of town drivers in what are known as "cash-for-freedom" deals.

On average, only about one seizure in ten ever leads to criminal charges, but historically, defendants have struggled to get any of their money or property back. One investigation by the Washington Post found that between 2001 and 2014, state and local police departments had seized nearly $2.5 billion in collective assets without warrants. Often these seizures occur during unrelated traffic stops, during which the Post found that police "pressed [drivers] to agree to searches without warrants and seized large amounts of cash when there was no evidence of wrongdoing."

https://www.thestreet.com/story/14237541/1/civil-forfeiture-trump-resurrects-an-ugly-practice-for-no-reason.html?puc=yahoo&cm_ven=YAHOO&yptr=yahoo

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Of course there's a reason, in fact, there are a number of them.

1. It is a useful tool to ruin political/personal rivals. Remember, the agencies do not have to wait for a warrant, for charges to be filed, or a case adjudicated, they only need an accusation. There are documented cases where a detective made an anonymous phone call accusing someone of drug dealing - because the victim had a boat he wanted and could buy cheap at a Sheriffs auction.

2. The AG has dementia, and believes it is the 1980's, with a full blown war on drugs. A war, BTW, that we lost, because the tools backfired. he wants to start all over again, doing the same failed things we did before. remember the definition of insanity - doing the same thing over and over, hoping for a different result.

3. The threat alone has power...don't f&ck with Trump or his cronies, or you'll lose everything you own.

Eugene Debs

BigMike wrote:

The do civil forfeitures everywhere, and have been... (show quote)

Wow, impressive nonsense.

Eugene Debs

saltwind 78 wrote:

Eugene, I am not familiar with this policy, but thank you for informing us about it. IT SOUNDS LIKE A POLICY OF SOME FORIGN DICTATORSHIP. It's downright un American!

I agree.

Eugene Debs

lpnmajor wrote:

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This decision has incredible far-reaching powers of undermining the Constitution and ushering in a dictatorship. The threat of legally impoverishing a person, persons, group, or institution if they do not cooperate or name government's prime suspect as the culprit, defines dictatorship.

sum

https://www.ericpetersautos.com/2013/06/24/americans-hate-freedom/

newyork

Most people would prefer to ignore a hard fact rather than face it.

Some Americans may have felt uneasy 35 years ago when DUI laws, DWI checkpoints, seatbelt laws, and car liability insurance laws were started, but most people felt that the experts must be right.

Pro-police state shows like "COPS" and "America's Most Wanted" were then aired, neighborhood watch groups were formed, "get tough on crime" candidates were elected, and laws allowing mandatory minimums, IMBRA, 3 strikes laws, curfews, police militarization, teen boot camps, school metal detectors, private prisons, and chain gangs were enacted.

Nanny state smoking laws then started appearing.

When 9/11 happened, the Patriot Act was passed, NSA wiretapping, no knock raids, take down notices, no fly lists, terror watch lists, Constitution free zones, stop and frisk, kill switches, National Security Letters, DNA databases, kill lists, FBAR, FATCA, Operation Chokepoint, TSA groping, civil forfeiture, CIA torture, NDAA indefinite detention, secret FISA courts, FEMA camps, laws requiring passports for domestic travel, IRS laws denying passports for tax debts, gun and ammo stockpiles, laws outlawing protesting, Jade Helm, sneak and peek warrants, policing for profit, no refusal blood checkpoints, license plate readers, redlight cameras, speed cameras, FBI facial and voice recognition, tattoo databases, gun bans, the end to the right to silence, free speech bans, searches without warrants, CISPA, SOPA, private prison quotas, supermax prisons, FOSTA, sex offender registration laws, and sex offender restriction laws were allowed.

Now that the USA is a total police state, Americans are finding out that changing anything is impossible and that freedom is lost forever.

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