JediKnight

You left out many other cultures that do the same.....Japan, China, the Maldives, etc., all have cultural traditions were the woman is subservient. In fact, there are many white men here in America that STILL treat their women as chattel....just go south to Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, and the Carolinas.

JediKnight

despite whatever books you have read or movies you have seen depicting otherwise, NO slave truly enjoyed being a slave....would you?

Big Bass

For many (with good slave-owners) their lot was preferable to anything they knew in Africa. But, I agree, NO form of slavery should be adopted now, or ever. But that's my opinion. Go talk to some muslim wives, and ask how they feel about being just a possession (chattel) to their master-husbands. That would be a fact for you.

Big Bass

That does NOT justify treating women, or anybody, as a chattel. You libturds must understand that, simply "because someone else does it," does not justify it, i.e., 2 wrongs don't make a right. You don't need to go south to see this in action, go to Dearborn, Michigan.

JediKnight

Big Bass: not sure why you seem to think there were actually "good" slave owners. Obviously there were some who treated their slaves better than most, but being a "slave" can never be seen as a good thing unless you're speaking about being "a slave for Christ."
Anything else is just wrong and does not belong in the "good" category. As far as Muslim wives, I know both kind, those who dislike their cultural traditions and laws, and those who do...same with Japanese women, Chinese, etc. Many people raised in such cultures don't know anything else -not saying that makes it okay - but to those who want it I say "more power to you" - for those who don't it is a human tragedy. No way to justify taking "ownership" of another human being....unless you are God Almighty. period.

Big Bass

Good = the opposite of bad. Check the dictionary, or thesaurus, if you don't believe me. BTW: there were slaves in the early biblical years, too, but that does NOT justify slavery, either. Any nation that does not vehemently condemn slavery, should be ostracized by the rest of the world. NO EXCEPTIONS!!

thinksense

There are tricksters and snarky characters who post on this forum.

They do not add anything to the discussion and post their impolite, often silly and with no forethought posts for reasons having nothing to do with the subject being discussed.

Maybe calling someone an impolite name, or carrying the subject to ridiculous extremes makes them feel important. All they do is disrupt the discussion, and in some cases that is exactly what they want to do.

If you feel the urge to be a trickster or snark, please do not bother us with your presence. Because we do recognize you for what you are.

PeterS

Gosh, you mean they treat them worse than Christians? If not for liberal pressure you people would be no better--if not worse!

Big Bass

Oh, did I upset tiny peter for denigrating his beloved mohammed? I'm NOT sorry! BTW, tiny peter: this holds good for all libturds - read and understand: "2 wrongs do NOT make a right."

PeterS

Oh you haven't seen me upset. You guys look no differently at women then do Muslims. You both see them as your personal property to do with as you please. You are right--two wrongs don't make a right but since when did conservatives care about that?

Big Bass

Is that a command from you, tiny peter? You are nobody to tell us how we look at women, whether we are Christian, Jewish, Hindu, or whatever! How do you even KNOW how we treat them? When did you meet my wife?? Why do libturds NEED to lie when backed into a corner?? Did you know that statements like yours, guarantee a tiny peter, tiny peter?
We have cared since Day 1. When are you libturds going to adopt that same care?

thinksense

Slave owners who did not treat the slaves reasonably well, were involved in self correcting situations. They naturally fomented slave uprisings, of which there were some, especially in the Carribean Islands.

Slaves, would do very little or no work, if treated badly. And if the owner were stupid and dangerous enough, he or she would be murdered by their slaves.

As I say, a naturally self correcting situation, since there were many more slaves than there were owners.

Slavery is wrong, no question. One of the reasons I started this string was to point out how the history we were taught about slavery was exaggerated and skewed. And what certain people living today are using that skewed history for.


The more important reason is to point out to you the fact that slavery now encompasses all of us.

We talk about the 1%. (actually more like the 1/10 of 1 %) who now control virtually all aspects of our lives. And have created a situation of “Laws”, that literally steal almost all our lives and productivity.

Law making bodies are constantly at work making new laws.

Note that EVERY LAW that is written restricts freedom/enslaves. EVERY LAW takes away some freedom. Either it stops someone from doing something they want to do or forces someone to do something they don’t want to do. They start with obvious laws that no one would object too, and gradually work into laws about every stage of your life, taking years to do that. Until you have no freedom left And I contend that when that is done to you, that YOU ARE ENSLAVED.

It was done to you very gradually, in ways that most people did not recognize, even today.

This can not be a self correcting situation until the majority of you recognize it.


Think about it!

Carol Kelly

Beautifully written.

boatbob2

YEAH,When I was in the US Army for 21 years,9 months and 21 days,I was a SLAVE of the US Army,I had to do what THEY wanted,free will??? my ass....

thinksense

Slave owners who did not treat the slaves reasonably well, were involved in self correcting situations. They naturally fomented slave uprisings, of which there were some, especially in the Carribean Islands.

Slaves, would do very little or no work, if treated badly. And if the owner were stupid and dangerous enough, he or she would be murdered by their slaves.

As I say, a naturally self correcting situation, since there were many more slaves than there were owners.

Slavery is wrong, no question. One of the reasons I started this string was to point out how the history we were taught about slavery was exaggerated and skewed. And what certain people living today are using that skewed history for.


The more important reason is to point out to you the fact that slavery now encompasses all of us.

We talk about the 1%. (actually more like the 1/10 of 1 %) who now control virtually all aspects of our lives. And have created a situation of “Laws”, that literally steal almost all our lives and productivity.

Law making bodies are constantly at work making new laws.

Note that EVERY LAW that is written restricts freedom/enslaves. EVERY LAW takes away some freedom. Either it stops someone from doing something they want to do or forces someone to do something they don’t want to do. They start with obvious laws that no one would object too, and gradually work into laws about every stage of your life, taking years to do that. Until you have no freedom left And I contend that when that is done to you, that YOU ARE ENSLAVED.

It was done to you very gradually, in ways that most people did not recognize, even today.

This can not be a self correcting situation until the majority of you recognize it.