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Mar 29, 2018 10:38:04   #
MICHAEL SALADEN
 
PeterS wrote:
So you are assuming that the campaign promises he made are moral, ethical, and what's best for the country? What we have to lose is what if you are wrong. Trump was given a country that was built around immigration and a free market economy that was built around that. The policies that Trump is pursuing are designed to destroy both. And since you aren't willing to roll up your sleeves now and prove to your employers that you deserve the wage that you want how will eliminating low wage immigrants provide you with such incentive in the future?

And if that's not enough there are the Muslims whom you only want to ban because of their religion. Read our constitution, especially the part where each of us can practice the religion of our choice! If you don't believe in the constitution than what exactly are you fighting for in the first place?

Next we come to healthcare where Trumps version of a free market has never yet delivered system that is affordable and available to all. Sorry, but a healthcare system that only the wealthy can participate in will never succeed in a country governed under democratic principles. So long as you pursue this fallacy you are chasing revolution and nothing more...

Then we come to free-trade, or for you--the lack there of! As a liberal I find myself a bit tongue tied that I would have to explain the principles of a free market to a CONSERVATIVE!!! No it's no perfect but it's far better than anything Trump is trying to do and what pisses me of is that you guys stood there as trump GAVE all of ASIA to the fuking Chinese. Now I know that you think you've accomplished something but note that pond scum Ivanka Trump still have ALL of her business over there! Would it hurt her to bring back just one and prove that she believes what her father is trying to do? Of maybe she is and therein lies the real problem. Do you honestly think that Donald Trump is going to do any kind of economic harm to be best piece of tail that he's ever fuked in his completely immoral life?

Now we come to tax policy and yes I know you think that Donald will fix a RIGGED system to stop favoring him and start favoring you. But come on, you can't be that fuking naive-- can you? After all, this is a man who won't even show you how much he pays in taxes after originally claiming he would! What on earth makes you think you can trust him to create a system that is beneficial to everyone involved?

And last we come to debt. When Reagan last lowered taxes it took us two presidents and a congress determined to lower debt to finally get it under control. Now you are apparently are having Trouble counting but we've only had one president since Bush lowered taxes and since Trump wants to lower taxes too there is no chance he can control debt. Here the policy you support and he want's to do is going to tack on an additional 10 trillion dollars and make our debt position worse than ever before. What happened to you fiscal conservatives? Why are you pursuing policies that make what Bush and Obama did even worse? If you detest Obama as much as you say why are you going along with his fiscal policies?

Now if Trump is the best President EVER than that makes you the worst political followers ever because you are not only supporting but encouraging policies that will do more political harm to this country ever. Not a single one of his policies is beneficial to either this country or the principles that it was founded under and that's about all there is to say about that...
So you are assuming that the campaign promises he ... (show quote)


First of all, I assume nothing regarding our agenda as it reflects the agenda I wanted from get go...

Second I do not work for wages assigned by an employer, I work under a contract of employment written by me, representing what compensation I expect which includes company vehicle, gas card, complete health insurance, time off...ect...ect...ect... for the compensation which is not-negotiable, I in turn outline expectations that I intend to deliver in exchange for the three checks I receive, two weekly, and one quarterly...

Regarding the Muslim Occult that you mentioned... It has already been covered by Public Law 414, Title II, Chapter I, Section 212... I suggest that you google it and familiarize yourself with it... It was passed June 27, 1952, and revised in 1967...

Their doctrine is in complete contrast to the morals, values, standards, and ethical conduct which our great nation is founded upon... I suggest that you read the Qu'ran as well before simply accepting the Muslims as religious...it will be quite edifying I assure you...

As far as resorting to name calling, well I feel confident that you can certainly be bested there as well, but choose not to stoop to your level...

Your basic lack of foreign policy and how our economic system works do not surprise me in the least... After all, you are a liberal...

Please view this as merely a rebuttal to your comments towards me and not the commencement of a conversation as I have no desire to discuss this any further with you...thank you for your time reading my post and your response...duly noted...

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Mar 30, 2018 01:20:36   #
Steve700
 
MICHAEL SALADEN wrote:
Steve, even though I am fully aware that the quote you posted was not directed towards me, I read it anyway...

I must say that as a builder with an extensive engineering background (Put together two books of structural engineering used in CA and NV for many years), as well as carpentry, concrete construction on high rises and bridges, I immediately was bewildered that two structures taking an impact of the type the took managed to fall straight down as though they were imploded...

I can not buy into the fire melted the steel and collapsed simply because both towers were outfitted with state of the art fire protection devises including halogen...

I believe that there were two additional buildings which did not get hit by jets that also for some unknown reason fell straight down in neat piles considering, I mean they didn't even disturb a tree across the street for crying out loud...

I guess the fact that the owner of the Twin Towers Complex was also upside down on the buildings should not raise any suspicions either? Right?

From what I have seen and know to be true based on simple physics, it is impossible for those two Giant Structures after taking a blow rendering a corner of the building compromised, that they could have fallen so completely verticle without assistance from compromising the structure below in a calculated fashion, it simply impossible...

More likely that the floors above would have collapsed that corner of impact, causing damage, but stopping there...
I apologize for butting into your conversation but felt compelled to share with you might point of view that is backed by a certain amount of expertise, in fact over 40 years of building experience...
Steve, even though I am fully aware that the quote... (show quote)

The building owner, Larry Silverstein said that they had decided to "PULL" that number 7 building. How do you do that without it being preset with explosives. And about the twin towers George Bush said (slipped and said) . The EXPLOSIVES were set high enough to prevent the people about them escaping (when he probably meant to say the planes hit high enough .....) and of course there is that middle core steel framework that the official government inquiry/investigation completely ignored .as well as the official story line documentary that was on TV -- AS THOUGH IT DIDN'T EXIST ----also know wreckage of an airliner with its passenger and luggage at either the Pentagon or out in that field. Only about a truck load of scraps dropped off at each location that had pictures taken of it. People were kept away from the scene, but they couldn't stop the helicopter's that surveyed the whole area while things were still smoking. Such an obvious hoax on the American people was only outdone by Obama becoming our president. The evidence is so totally overwhelming, but nothing will be done about either because everything is run by the deep state shadow government, not by official representatives of the people elected by us who have our best interest at heart.

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Mar 30, 2018 01:29:51   #
Steve700
 
PeterS wrote:
So you are assuming that the campaign promises he made are moral, ethical, and what's best for the country? What we have to lose is what if you are wrong. Trump was given a country that was built around immigration and a free market economy that was built around that. The policies that Trump is pursuing are designed to destroy both. And since you aren't willing to roll up your sleeves now and prove to your employers that you deserve the wage that you want how will eliminating low wage immigrants provide you with such incentive in the future?

And if that's not enough there are the Muslims whom you only want to ban because of their religion. Read our constitution, especially the part where each of us can practice the religion of our choice! If you don't believe in the constitution than what exactly are you fighting for in the first place?

Next we come to healthcare where Trumps version of a free market has never yet delivered system that is affordable and available to all. Sorry, but a healthcare system that only the wealthy can participate in will never succeed in a country governed under democratic principles. So long as you pursue this fallacy you are chasing revolution and nothing more...

Then we come to free-trade, or for you--the lack there of! As a liberal I find myself a bit tongue tied that I would have to explain the principles of a free market to a CONSERVATIVE!!! No it's no perfect but it's far better than anything Trump is trying to do and what pisses me of is that you guys stood there as trump GAVE all of ASIA to the fuking Chinese. Now I know that you think you've accomplished something but note that pond scum Ivanka Trump still have ALL of her business over there! Would it hurt her to bring back just one and prove that she believes what her father is trying to do? Of maybe she is and therein lies the real problem. Do you honestly think that Donald Trump is going to do any kind of economic harm to be best piece of tail that he's ever fuked in his completely immoral life?

Now we come to tax policy and yes I know you think that Donald will fix a RIGGED system to stop favoring him and start favoring you. But come on, you can't be that fuking naive-- can you? After all, this is a man who won't even show you how much he pays in taxes after originally claiming he would! What on earth makes you think you can trust him to create a system that is beneficial to everyone involved?

And last we come to debt. When Reagan last lowered taxes it took us two presidents and a congress determined to lower debt to finally get it under control. Now you are apparently are having Trouble counting but we've only had one president since Bush lowered taxes and since Trump wants to lower taxes too there is no chance he can control debt. Here the policy you support and he want's to do is going to tack on an additional 10 trillion dollars and make our debt position worse than ever before. What happened to you fiscal conservatives? Why are you pursuing policies that make what Bush and Obama did even worse? If you detest Obama as much as you say why are you going along with his fiscal policies?

Now if Trump is the best President EVER than that makes you the worst political followers ever because you are not only supporting but encouraging policies that will do more political harm to this country ever. Not a single one of his policies is beneficial to either this country or the principles that it was founded under and that's about all there is to say about that...
So you are assuming that the campaign promises he ... (show quote)

Now, it is you who is stupidly assuming that Obama was moral, ethical and had our best interest at heart. For you to say "Not a single one of his policies is beneficial to either this country or the principles that it was founded under and that's about all there is to say about that..."Is just plain asinine and proof positive of the effectiveness of Marxist propaganda to destroy the mind and stunt the emotional development of an otherwise normal human being with a good heart..

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Mar 30, 2018 01:46:35   #
Steve700
 
PeterS wrote:
"Insults are the last result of an insecure People with a crumbling position trying to appear confident!"..."Of course you're going to ignore me, because that's all you can do, because your stupid, incapable of rational thought & debate because you're on the side of wrong, & able only to repeat the talking points of Marxist programming"

First off Stevie, there isn't a single post of yours that isn't strewn with insults. Second off, you've got your own ignore list and last I checked I was on it. I think it's called the pot calling the kettle black Stevie. Maybe this would be a good chance for you to practice what you seem to be preaching--or would that be too much for someone who has shown himself to not only be a lunatic but a fascist one at that...
"Insults are the last result of an insecure P... (show quote)

You are so self delusional in your unwitting alignment with evil that there are just simply isn't anything to do but torment you with the truth that you think of as me insulting you. Go ahead, tell me what else I am to do after repeated self delusional denial of what I say, that anyone can see is turning everything around on you, as I am destroying the point you think you are making as I prove it's all fraudulent nonsense. Is your insistence on not dealing with what I have written and instead going into the media denial of what you cannot refute and then blasting out with insults, and trying to belittle me by calling me Stevie, that has caused me to put you where you belong -- ON MY IGNORE LIST

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May 28, 2019 00:34:57   #
MICHAEL SALADEN
 
eden wrote:
You have me foxed. Either your post is a mocking sarcastic meme a la Steven Colbert or you are a brainwashed cretin living in some kind of altered universe....

"President Trump and his family do represent the very values, morals, standards and ethical conduct that I did grow up in America believing and backing..". ๐Ÿ˜ฎ๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜„

If it's the first possibility then thank you for the laughs. If it's the second I am sorry for you.

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They say that hind sight is 20/20, are you now better able to see the error of your way or will you hang in there like a brainwashed puppet of the left controlled media...

Even if you still believe in your position, you will have to deal with watching the Democratic/ Socialist party crash and burn as many shall be arrested or indicted, tried, convicted and sentenced to lengthy prison terms.

Politicians from both sides of the isle will be removed from society for their corrupt and vile way in which they screwed America and Americans!!!

Perhaps then you will be able to humble yourself and repent for following an agenda which is designed to strip you of your freedom and rights, subjugating you and your family for a very long time...

I will say a prayer for you that you will awake from the blinder guided agenda which supports violence and corruption and to see the light of good vs. Evil!!!

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May 28, 2019 01:05:17   #
MICHAEL SALADEN
 
dongreen76 wrote:
Which Trump are you referring to
Donald Jeckle,or Donald Hyde.The President ,or the first president I know of that refuse to take a salary wasJohn Fitzgerald Kennedy
He didn't take a dollar,neither.No I change that,Dr.Jeckle,and Mr.Hyde,both knew what they were about."The Donald"and" Donald the Risk"doesn't have a clue.If you can't see this you're probably a deporable,or a stupid,one.


Yes JFK was the first to accept only a dollar for his short time as President... He did accept one dollar as he was obligated to just ad President Trump is obligated to...

Guess you missed the real news as president Trump is selecting by quarter where his salary will be spent...

Kinda hoped he would have applied all of it to our Walls both Northern and Southern...

Instead part of his salary is dedicated to our Veterans Memorials and fixing them up so our brave dead may rest in more respectable peace...

How does it feel to be wrong about everything all the time... How embarrassed will you be watching your liberal democrat socialists being sentenced to lengthy prison terms for their lying corrupt ways...

How dupped and betrayed you must already feel as 12 Congressmen and two Senators from the left are under investigation and will be indicted, convicted and sent to prison...

Conservatives are not amune to this plight, as we will watch many, many more from both sides of the isle be arrested and sent to prison...

Most hurtful pill for you to swallow has got to be the 18 democrat lawyers (who admittedly hating President Trump), and after spending $35 million dollars on a two year special investigation only to vindicate our President and condemn the previous administration, for which many high ranking officials will be changing their addresses to GITMO!!! LMFAO!!!!

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May 28, 2019 10:17:44   #
bahmer
 
MICHAEL SALADEN wrote:
Yes JFK was the first to accept only a dollar for his short time as President... He did accept one dollar as he was obligated to just ad President Trump is obligated to...

Guess you missed the real news as president Trump is selecting by quarter where his salary will be spent...

Kinda hoped he would have applied all of it to our Walls both Northern and Southern...

Instead part of his salary is dedicated to our Veterans Memorials and fixing them up so our brave dead may rest in more respectable peace...

How does it feel to be wrong about everything all the time... How embarrassed will you be watching your liberal democrat socialists being sentenced to lengthy prison terms for their lying corrupt ways...

How dupped and betrayed you must already feel as 12 Congressmen and two Senators from the left are under investigation and will be indicted, convicted and sent to prison...

Conservatives are not amune to this plight, as we will watch many, many more from both sides of the isle be arrested and sent to prison...

Most hurtful pill for you to swallow has got to be the 18 democrat lawyers (who admittedly hating President Trump), and after spending $35 million dollars on a two year special investigation only to vindicate our President and condemn the previous administration, for which many high ranking officials will be changing their addresses to GITMO!!! LMFAO!!!!
Yes JFK was the first to accept only a dollar for ... (show quote)


Amen and Amen

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May 28, 2019 10:43:07   #
Carol Kelly
 
Snoopy wrote:
Michael:

Trump is getting too close to upsetting the political "apple cart". The "good old boys" are afraid he is going to end the political gravy train and install some honesty in government.

MSM controls the uncaring, lazy and under-educated with their liberal propaganda.

College students shown on Waters World have NO idea what is going on in this country.

Snoopy


So true. Why build up a big college debt to be stupefied? The world lost all respect for America under Obama and the entire world fell into the Muslim trap while he was in office. Plain as the nose on your face, so why so many socialists lining up? I remember hearing Melania in an interview saying Trump would come home from a business trip citing all heโ€™d seen wrong and saying he could fix that. And that was before he decided to run for President! I canโ€™t cite where exactly I saw it, but someone else must surely remember having heard it.

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May 28, 2019 10:45:17   #
Carol Kelly
 
MICHAEL SALADEN wrote:
First of all, I assume nothing regarding our agenda as it reflects the agenda I wanted from get go...

Second I do not work for wages assigned by an employer, I work under a contract of employment written by me, representing what compensation I expect which includes company vehicle, gas card, complete health insurance, time off...ect...ect...ect... for the compensation which is not-negotiable, I in turn outline expectations that I intend to deliver in exchange for the three checks I receive, two weekly, and one quarterly...

Regarding the Muslim Occult that you mentioned... It has already been covered by Public Law 414, Title II, Chapter I, Section 212... I suggest that you google it and familiarize yourself with it... It was passed June 27, 1952, and revised in 1967...

Their doctrine is in complete contrast to the morals, values, standards, and ethical conduct which our great nation is founded upon... I suggest that you read the Qu'ran as well before simply accepting the Muslims as religious...it will be quite edifying I assure you...

As far as resorting to name calling, well I feel confident that you can certainly be bested there as well, but choose not to stoop to your level...

Your basic lack of foreign policy and how our economic system works do not surprise me in the least... After all, you are a liberal...

Please view this as merely a rebuttal to your comments towards me and not the commencement of a conversation as I have no desire to discuss this any further with you...thank you for your time reading my post and your response...duly noted...
First of all, I assume nothing regarding our agend... (show quote)


Best rebuttal Iโ€™ve ever read! Many thanks.

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May 28, 2019 10:48:05   #
Carol Kelly
 
Steve700 wrote:
You are so self delusional in your unwitting alignment with evil that there are just simply isn't anything to do but torment you with the truth that you think of as me insulting you. Go ahead, tell me what else I am to do after repeated self delusional denial of what I say, that anyone can see is turning everything around on you, as I am destroying the point you think you are making as I prove it's all fraudulent nonsense. Is your insistence on not dealing with what I have written and instead going into the media denial of what you cannot refute and then blasting out with insults, and trying to belittle me by calling me Stevie, that has caused me to put you where you belong -- ON MY IGNORE LIST
You are so self delusional in your unwitting align... (show quote)


Amen!

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