samtheyank

That is a good question. I don't know! I just hope you meet the man one day before you move on. Believe it or not! There is hope for people like you. I was and use to be like you. I thought I knew everything and I had an answer for everything. I gave my life to Christ well over forty years ago and I am still going strong.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

Good genes?

Not agreeing with someone, doesn't make me wrong or right, and additionally; moral or immoral. There is objective reality and the good book was created as a way of manipulating or establishing citizenship in a tribe. That's it. It isn't God's word in any way, shape or form.

samtheyank

Sir,

I don't agree with you; however, I respect your opinion and stance. Like I said before, I hope, and pray, there will be a day in your life when you will meet The Lord in a real way. There is one last comment I would like to add. Paul was a real strong defender of his faith. He killed and threw early Christians in jail to rot. He was so bad, Christ, himself, had to confront him on the road to Damascus. After Paul's encounter with Christ, he went on to be of the strongest pillars of the faith. He wrote about Love, faith, etc. that to this day has no equal.

Charles Colsen, C. S. Lewis and Francis Schaeffer had times in their lives that they didn't give a damn about God and could have cared less. One of these men was a strong arm for a President, another was a man who could give a great intellectual argument why there was no God and the last one just simply didn't give a damn. He lived his life on his own terms. When you read their writings after their encounter with The Holy Spirit, they were never the same and they had a heart for Christ.

I hope we can be friends. I wish you nothing but the best. sam

son of witless

You must be young. I bet you have all of the answers to life. Logic explains all things, doesn't it? Science has lifted the veil of ignorance from your eyes and you never looked back. At some point life will knock you upside the head. Things will go wrong and your answers will not work. You will find yourself at the mercy of what ever you choose to call it, Chance, Luck, Fate, or maybe even God.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

We are...

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

Is their a problem with logic...Christian apologists try to use it all of the time...Science.... only gives a glimmer...

Why can't the common cold be cured..

....Why can't they predict the weather correct even half the time.....

I don't just accept "because" as an answer....a God that claims existence with no proof, by "men" was created by men....How is prayer any different than luck, fate, or chance.

son of witless

People who believe in God recognize that much of what happens to them is beyond their control. Ancient peoples in Mesopotamia, Egypt, and Canaan were almost universally deeply religious. They had many gods because disaster was one drought, one flood, one plaque, one foreign invasion away. We in the modern World with our science have so much more control over how things go for us that we need only one God. Heck many of us have it so figured out that we do not even need one God. We are the masters of our fate. We are so untouched by children with birth defects, diagnosis of cancer, or freak car accidents that we can merrily dance through our lives until we drop dead of a massive heart attack in old age.

It rains on the good and the wicked, the religious and the atheist equally. Since God cannot be proven or disproven by natural means the only impartial measure I can think of is niceness. The nicest people I personally know are deeply religious. Now the folks I see on the TV rioting, looting, and burning down towns do not look very nice to me, but maybe the telie distorts them. Anyway they ain't carrying Bibles.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

...so do people who don't believe in God...

son of witless

So what do those who do not believe in God do when something is on the line and they just have to wait, while having no power to affect the outcome? Example say a loved one has cancer and the prognosis is 50-50? They cannot pray to a God that they do not believe can hear them. Do they rub a rabbit's foot? How about when Atheists are going for a positive? Maybe a business deal they really need and it is all luck whether it goes through?

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

If prayers saved people, why do hospitals staff with Doctors and Nurses, instead of evangelists and "healers"? Why bother to offer any medical attention at all?

It's always stunning to me that when a Doctor saves a life it's a miracle and when they don't, they're incompetent.

son of witless

Doctors and nurses are the Earthly tools God has provided to man.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

Nope.

They were born, trained and now do their job. God had nothing to do with it.

son of witless

Will you concede that chance and luck had something to do with it? I mean it is random chance that one individual is born with the brains, the ambition, and the opportunity to become a great enough surgeon to have President Obama accuse them of removing tonsils for the money instead of changing medication, while another person never rises above pot smoker 2nd class. All things considered chance, luck, and God gave the pot smoker a happier life.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

I don't really understand your response.

Someone doesn't become a Doctor or a ditch digger by chance. They learn their craft by retaining information and performing the task. The exceed when they innovate, such as curing cancer, and organ transplants.

Why do you think the pot smoker is happy? They are an addict, and probably wish they could quit. Those that do, realize the benefits of clear focus.

son of witless

I say yes a person does become a doctor or a ditch digger by chance. Two things determine what we will do and become in life. Two things that are out of our control. First is heredity. We cannot choose our parents. We cannot choose whether we are aborted. We cannot choose whether our mother is a drug addict or a drunk while carrying us.We can't choose to be free of birth defects. We can't choose to have the genetics to become a professional athlete. We can't choose to be born with an IQ of 160 or 100. We cannot choose to be born in America or be born in a war zone in the middle east.

Second thing is environment. We can't choose the people in our childhood who will either inspire us to pursue a career in medicine or who will leave us with the mental scars from abuse that impede us for a lifetime.

The pot smoker is happy because he is well within a realm of low expectations. The pot medicates his anxieties and makes him relax. It is about coping with his problems. The high flying surgeon has far greater life satisfaction, but that is wiped out by the effort he must put out to maintain his lifestyle and also by risks inherent in his profession. He is always in danger of making mistake and being sued. Maybe he also smokes pot or worse to cope.