moldyoldy

Bush never stopped it, they just kept changing the name.

2009–2011: Operation Fast and Furious[edit]
On October 26, 2009, a teleconference was held at the Department of Justice in Washington, D.C. to discuss U.S. strategy for combating Mexican drug cartels. Participating in the meeting were Deputy Attorney General David W. Ogden, Assistant Attorney General Lanny A. Breuer, acting ATF Director Kenneth E. Melson, Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) Administrator Michele Leonhart, Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation Robert Mueller and the top federal prosecutors in the Southwestern border states. They decided on a strategy to identify and eliminate entire arms trafficking networks rather than low-level buyers.[3][38][39] Those at the meeting apparently did not suggest using the "gunwalking" tactic, but Phoenix ATF supervisors would soon use it in an attempt to achieve the desired goals.[40]
The strategy of targeting high-level individuals, which was already ATF policy, would be implemented by Bill Newell, special agent in charge of ATF's Phoenix field division. In order to accomplish it, the office decided to monitor suspicious firearms purchases which federal prosecutors had determined lacked sufficient evidence for prosecution, as laid out in a January 2010 briefing paper. This was said to be allowed under ATF regulations and given legal backing by U.S. Attorney for the District of Arizona Dennis K. Burke. It was additionally approved and funded by a Justice Department task force.[3] However, long-standing DOJ and ATF policy has required suspected illegal arms shipments to be intercepted.[4][5]


FN Five-sevens were among the weapons allowed to walk.[41]
The operation began on October 31, 2009, when a local gun store reported to the Phoenix ATF that four individuals had purchased multiple AK-47 style rifles.[42] In November 2009, the Phoenix office's Group VII, which would be the lead investigative group in Fast and Furious, began to follow a prolific gun trafficker. He had bought 34 firearms in 24 days, and he and his associates bought 212 more in the next month. The case soon grew to over two dozen straw purchasers, the most prolific of which would ultimately buy more than 600 weapons.[3][5][43] The effort would come to be called Operation Fast and Furious for the successful film franchise, because some of the suspects under investigation operated out of an auto repair store and street raced.[3]
Under the previous Operation Wide Receiver, there had been a formal ATF contract with the cooperating gun dealer and efforts were made to involve the ATF Mexico City Office (MCO) and Mexican law enforcement. Under Operation Fast and Furious, at Newell's insistence the cooperating gun dealers did not have contracts with ATF, and MCO and Mexican police were left in the dark.[1]
According to internal ATF documents, the operation was initially run in conjunction with the Phoenix DEA Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force (OCDETF).[44] On January 26, 2010, ATF formally applied to the Justice Department in Washington for funding through the OCDETF program. When it won approval and received additional funding, Operation Fast and Furious was reorganized as a Strike Force that included agents from ATF, FBI, DEA, and the ICE component of the Department of Homeland Security, which would be run through the U.S. Attorney's office rather than the ATF. This new Strike Force designation allowed the operation to take advantage of sophisticated surveillance techniques such as federal wiretaps, which would require court orders and interaction from Justice Department officials in Washington, D.C. since federal law requires certain individuals to review evidence and certify the necessity of such techniques.[45]

Vegas Rob

Jack2014...............what are you? A moron? A sore loser? An ISIS lover? You show a lot of ignorance of facts. Do you believe lies of idiots like you? STFU is all I can say.

Loki Loc: Georgia

So you are saying that Bush was still president in 2009?

From Politifact....

Our ruling

Obama said that the Fast and Furious program began "under the previous administration." That is not the case; Fast and Furious did begin during the time Obama held office.

Another similar program, called Operation Wide Receiver, did happen during the Bush administration, and a recent inspector general’s report criticized both operations as ineffective and seriously flawed.

But Operation Wide Receiver is not the same thing as the Fast and Furious program. We rate Obama’s statement False.
http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2012/sep/24/barack-obama/barack-obama-said-fast-and-furious-began-under-bus/

Bear in mind that Wide Receiver ended in 2008, and Obama was inaugurated Jan of 2009. Fast and Furious with all it's screwups and deaths of innocent people, was Obama's baby. The people responsible for this balls up were shielded by Obama's improper use of Executive Authority.

popscott

How soon we forget..
Obama is and was the traitor....
Let us not forget the murders and rapes at the hands of illegal immigrants that were/are here ILLEGALLY because Obama did not enforce the immigration laws on the books.

moldyoldy

The program started under Bush, they changed the code name it seems like every year, but the same program.

Loki Loc: Georgia

Did you not read the Politifact? It was suspended in 2007. It was not re-started until 2009, after Obama's inauguration.
Kind of like the Solyndra loans that the Bush Administration refused. However, the Obama Administration granted these loans. After all, some of the heads of Solyndra bundled one hell of a lot of money for the Prevaricator-in-Chief.
I know that was off the subject; I just couldn't resist.

CounterRevolutionary

"Is trump a traitor or a spy with help from most of his cabinet " you ask?

Oh, I thought you were describing President Obama with Hillary Clinton, John Brannon, James Comey and Thomas Perez in his Cabinet.

Mark Zuckerberg will be the next DNC political candidate, the newest Creature from the Black Lagoon to rise out of the swamp.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

It is indeed interesting to watch their self immolation.

Loki Loc: Georgia

Get some water, we don't want them to cook too fast.

moldyoldy

There seemed to be a couple of operations still going on.

The Hernandez case[edit]
Another, smaller probe occurred in 2007 under the same ATF Phoenix field division. The Fidel Hernandez case began when the ATF identified Mexican suspects who bought weapons from a Phoenix gun shop over a span of several months. The probe ultimately involved over 200 guns, a dozen of which were lost in Mexico. On September 27, 2007, ATF agents saw the original suspects buying weapons at the same store and followed them toward the Mexican border. The ATF informed the Mexican government when the suspects successfully crossed the border, but Mexican law enforcement were unable to track them.[4][10]
Less than two weeks later, on October 6, William Newell, then ATF's Special Agent in Charge (SAC) of the Phoenix field division, shut down the operation at the behest of William Hoover, ATF's assistant director for the office of field operations.[34] No charges were filed. Newell, who was Phoenix ATF SAC from June 2006 to May 2011, would later play a major role in Operation Fast and Furious.[4][12]
The Hernandez case was referenced in a briefing paper prepared for Attorney General Michael Mukasey prior to his meeting with the Mexican Attorney General Medina Mora on November 16, 2007. The paper stated, "ATF has recently worked jointly with Mexico on the first-ever attempt to have a controlled delivery of weapons being smuggled into Mexico by a major arms trafficker" and that "the first attempts at this controlled delivery have not been successful". The paper also stated, "ATF would like to expand the possibility of such joint investigations and controlled deliveries—since only then will it be possible to investigate an entire smuggling network, rather than arresting simply a single smuggler."[35]
Investigators regarded the Hernandez Case as an example of "controlled delivery" with surveillance and involvement of Mexican authorities rather than "gunwalking" or failure to attempt interdiction.[1][36][37]
The Medrano case[edit]
The 2008 Alejandro Medrano case involved both ATF SAC William Newell and cooperating Tucson gun dealer Mike Detty of Operation Wide Receiver. ATF Phoenix allowed about 100 guns to be taken into Mexico over the objections of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) personnel who became aware of the case. Phoenix ATF SAC Newell acknowledged to ICE "that letting guns cross the border was part of ATF’s plan". In August 2010, Medrano was sentenced to 46 months, his associate Hernan Ramos received 50 months and their fellow conspirators received prison terms from 14 to 30 months, but the target, a Sinaloa Cartel kingpin, Javier Elenes Ruiz, nicknamed "Rambo," remained untouched inside Mexico.[36]

pafret Loc: Northeast

I don't know whether to respond or just puke at this post. If you are not joking then you are brain dead and they should pull your plug.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

Not only pull the plug. Disconnect the outlet it was plugged into.

popscott

How soon we forget..
Obama is and was the traitor....

The Obama White House had been spying on its political opponents and leaking classified information about them long before Donald Trump won the presidential election last November

moldyoldy

You must be one of those Russians, pointing fingers anywhere except at trump.

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

Those two queers haven't went anywhere...Barry and Michael are still flitting around for all the liberal progressive jihadist's to adore and bow down in reverence to...the lead homosexual (Barry) is campaigning currently to head the U.N...for his final assault on America and Israel..