Iamdjchrys Loc: Decatur, Texas

Sacrifice? Almost weekly trips to Mar A Lago at great expense to the American people...a wife who only grudgingly moved to the WH...son going to the best school (bless his heart)..public education hanging on by a thread (I hope the suggestions for a 13th and 14th grade are taken seriously confirmed by Betsy DeVos)...slashing funding for Superfund sites;..replacing EPA scientists with businessmen...and lack of coherence or consistency in his statements to the public through speech and Twitter. He needs to pay attention and learn about the issues facing America and the world. Then maybe I can support him with more heart.

Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ

The liberal motto is do for others that you would not have done to yourself. They have become the party that we were against in the fifties. Their Marxism is showing. Veterans better care that what is being supplied at the VA hospitals. The workers at the VA and all federal government should not have unions with the power to stop someone for being fired when their incompetence has been proven. Union members in the private sector do not have that luxury. So why should government employees be afforded that privilege.

waltmoreno

Obviously you don't realize that your mushy-headed thinking is a big part of the problem in the war of good versus evil. Your so-called "bipartisan effort and a meeting of the minds for piece" is nonsense!

The devil or Great Deceiver would be pleased to do nothing more than recruit all people on earth to exactly your state of mind. Whether you realize it or not, you are already squarely in the camp of the devil. Not overtly, as devil worshipers, but nevertheless, in the devil's camp.

You probably have one of those idiotic, "War is not the Answer" bumper sticker on your car. Every time I see one of those, I want to get my black magic marker out and write below it, "Then Surrender". Because those are your only two choices. War or surrender. No other choices!

Today, we are dealing with end time forces that want to behead people solely for not recognizing Muhammed as the prophet of Allah. ISIS even beheads other muslims for not believing their same sects ideology. Good luck with your efforts at a bipartisan meeting of the minds with those folks. Your head will be rolling on the ground with other heads.

For idiots to contend that war isn't the answer with those people, means that they'll lose their heads, figuratively at first and then literally.

We were created in the image of God. God, like humans, is jealous. His first commandment is "Thou shall not have strange gods before me". It's not a suggestion - it's a commandment!

Try telling your wife or girlfriend that you don't feel the it's necessary to be true to her. You can explain that because of your superior intellect, you have figured out that 'hope' will make the relationship great again. Or whatever other nonsense you use.

Wanna bet on the outcome? The answer is obvious. You lose.

BTW, 'hope' as in "Hope and Change" was Obama's slogan. Notice that 'hope' is passive. No action is required of the adherents. But that won't suffice for those who seek to obtain eternal life. Action is required. Passivity is only ok for infants - until they become of age. Once they reach adulthood, they must take side in the eternal against evil. Or they can surrender by choosing not to take sides. And hope that everything turns out alright. End result - they lose.

All that's required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. So by you doing nothing (but hoping) you are enabling evil.

You suffer from the same problem as millions of other so-called moderate lefty democrats who have figured out that because of their superior intellect they can rise above the struggle inherent in life. You've fallen for the same lie that Satan told Eve when he convinced her to partake of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, "you shall be as gods".

waltmoreno

[quote=Iamdjchrys]I absolutely believe in a higher power, and God the Creator. However, I am not a Christian, nor do I believe in the Bible as the 'One word of God". I do believe that the word "Hope" is the word of the Creator.

Oops. I forgot to quote who I was responding to. This is for Iamdjchrys.

The devil or Great Deceiver would be pleased to do nothing more than recruit all people on earth to exactly your state of mind. Whether you realize it or not, you are already squarely in the camp of the devil. Not overtly, as devil worshipers, but nevertheless, in the devil's camp.

You probably have one of those idiotic, "War is not the Answer" bumper sticker on your car. Every time I see one of those, I want to get my black magic marker out and write below it, "Then Surrender". Because those are your only two choices. War or surrender. No other choices!

Today, we are dealing with end time forces that want to behead people solely for not recognizing Muhammed as the prophet of Allah. ISIS even beheads other muslims for not believing their same sects ideology. Good luck with your efforts at a bipartisan meeting of the minds with those folks. Your head will be rolling on the ground with other heads.

For idiots to contend that war isn't the answer with those people, means that they'll lose their heads, figuratively at first and then literally.

We were created in the image of God. God, like humans, is jealous. His first commandment is "Thou shall not have strange gods before me". It's not a suggestion - it's a commandment!

Try telling your wife or girlfriend that you don't feel the it's necessary to be true to her. You can explain that because of your superior intellect, you have figured out that 'hope' will make the relationship great again. Or whatever other nonsense you use.

Wanna bet on the outcome? The answer is obvious. You lose.

BTW, 'hope' as in "Hope and Change" was Obama's slogan. Notice that 'hope' is passive. No action is required of the adherents. But that won't suffice for those who seek to obtain eternal life. Action is required. Passivity is only ok for infants - until they become of age. Once they reach adulthood, they must take side in the eternal against evil. Or they can surrender by choosing not to take sides. And hope that everything turns out alright. End result - they lose.

All that's required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. So by you doing nothing (but hoping) you are enabling evil.

You suffer from the same problem as millions of other so-called moderate lefty democrats who have figured out that because of their superior intellect they can rise above the struggle inherent in life. You've fallen for the same lie that Satan told Eve when he convinced her to partake of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, "you shall be as gods".

Iamdjchrys Loc: Decatur, Texas

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"The greatest of these is love". However, I do acknowledge the evil that is ISIS mist be fought with all of our might! I am not a "mushy".liberal, but I'm old enough to know that bipartisan cooperation is occasionally productive. We will need some of that if a fair and reasonable healthcare program and tax bill is the motive for serving the American people.

Iamdjchrys Loc: Decatur, Texas

I note that you did not respond to any of the issues raised.

Iamdjchrys Loc: Decatur, Texas

Homeless veterans are everywhere. Complaints about the VA hospital lack of care are rampant, some veterans report that it can take up to a year to get seen. I have a friend that had a tiny spot on his lung. The VA told him to come back in 6 months to check progress. Six months later, when he went back, the cancer had spread wildly. It was three months later that he finally had the surgery and lost that lung. My roommate is a retired Marine, and no way would he put his life in the hands of the VA.

I agree that incompetent staff needs to go. There are lots of qualified healthcare workers who would love to have these jobs.

Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ

Not all of the doctors at the VA are bad. My only doctor, until he started the investigation of the VA, was great. He always had time to answer questions and if I needed a question answered he replied with in 48 hrs. I have now had three doctors and I was notified about, the leaving by two of them,was the day before my appointment. It then took me 5 months to get another doctor. When I had a problem that needed to be taken care of, they provided me the treatment I needed. At the Phoenix VA we can not call our doctors nurse, to get an answer, except by calling the main line for the hospital. The doctor I have now is very busy, because they are short of doctors in that clinic. I can only hope that things change under this administration.

waltmoreno

My point is that you absolutely can not rule out war when advocating for your position. If you're dealing with rational beings, by all means see if a meeting of reasonable minds can be arrived at with bipartisan cooperation. But war has to be an option, because you may find out you're not dealing with reasonable people. If war is not an option, you lose. Just like I explained in my previous post.
Whoever believes that health care is a right, has been sold a bill of goods. Where does it end? Answer: it doesn't! The real objective of the so-called right to health care is redistribution of wealth for more centralized power. How can you be healthy if you don't have 3 nourishing meals a day, a warm bed to sleep in at night, medicines, etc., etc. It never ends.
I'm a vietnam veteran and have absolutely no use for anything the VA, aka, western medicine has to offer for any Chronic disease. For traumatic injuries western medicine can't be beat. For chronic disease, western medicine is in the dark ages. Eastern medicine offers real cures because eastern medicine looks at the whole person, not the symptom. Western medicine merely looks at the symptom and its objective is to eliminate the symptom.
Kinda like taking your car to the mechanic because the red warning light is flashing. So the mechanic cuts the red warning light circuit. Has the problem been fixed? Hardly. If anything, it's been made worse, because you'll continue to drive as if there isn't impending disaster awaiting to befall you.
For example, cancer, a typical chronic disease isn't a deficiency of radiation, or chemotherapy drugs, or God forbid, surgical removal. But those are the only 3 cures recognized by western medicine. Utter nonsense!

Iamdjchrys Loc: Decatur, Texas

I hope so too. The VA is top heavy, and needs more doctors, nurses and other medical to care for our many veterans. It also needs more mental health professional and outreach programs for our homeless and addicted veterans. We have a crisis in healthcare and housing for our veterans, it's inexcusable that these men (and women) are left behind.

Iamdjchrys Loc: Decatur, Texas

I agree that there are times that war is the only option. The complexity of world relations is astonishing, but understandable if one takes the time to study. Being disabled, I have a lot of time to read.

We have been deeply entrenched in other countries' civil wars since the Korean War..before my time, but my father served in the Navy. We have been involved in civil wars, ever since. "To protect our interests". More jobs, more of our young men sent off.

As far as Western medicine healthcare goes, I'm afraid that I have to agree with you. When I had a perforated ulcer that was left untreated for almost 3 weeks, I slowly went into shock. Luckily, my ER doctor was a well-respected heart surgeon and saved my life with emergency surgery. I had a whole list of bactetia and fungus growing in my abdomen. He told me the day after surgery that they didn't expect me to live through it.

On the other hand, Western medicine doesn't do crap for thinks like the arthritis in my knees, inherited asthma, nail patella syndrome issues, etc. Western medicine is incable of treating my PTSD or my daughter's mental illness without a serious regimen of drugs. Medicaid won't cover the higher dosage of one of her prescribed medications. Or her husband's back problems due to beaten with a steel pipe as a child that partly crushed several vertebrae.

Healthcare issues are universal. Other developed countries are successful in their health care programs. Americans spend more per capita on healthcare and medications than any other country in the world. The healthcare system needs fixing. The AHCA as it stands is mysogynous, punishes seniors and the poor while bringing tax credits to the top 2%. Why cant they take Obamacare and fix the problems rather than throw it out? Or go to universal healthcare, fixing premiums to income, not age?

Sorry this is so long lol. I look forward to your responses

waltmoreno

The last part of your answer sounds like you've bought into the lie of class warfare. A myth peddled successfully by lefties to divide people by income, status, social mobility, education, etc. It's essentially resentment at its core if you strip away the veneer. It goes like this: "So and so has more . . . blah, blah, blah than me because . . . blah, blah, blah.
We live in a country where one's status is not dictated by birth status, like countries with caste systems. Anyone can aspire to whatever they want and with hard work, initiative, perseverance, and yes, luck can achieve their dreams.

Every one of the rights set forth in the Bill of Rights take nothing away from anyone else. I can speak freely, practice my religion, assemble, bear arms, be secure in my home or property, etc., etc. and it doesn't take anything from anyone else. Once you try to advocate for health care being a right you are taking from doctors, nurses, hospitals, pharmaceutical companies, etc., etc. So unless we enslave them, we are taking from them. And we've done away with slavery.

Chronic conditions are the responsibility of the individual with the condition. The internet has made it possible for an individual to learn as much if not more than the treating licensed physicians who will just prescribe a drug anyway. As if the cause of the chronic condition is a deficiency of the drug. Absurd!
Sadly most Americans have been brainwashed to think like that. I can't. And won't.
Over and out!

Iamdjchrys Loc: Decatur, Texas

Class warfare? Enslavement? Subscribing to medical care isnt taking from medical professionals, they are doing their job.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

You are obviously a devotee of Karl Marx.

I share with you an excerpt from the introduction to a 1000 page magnum opus that every American worthy of the name should read:

". . . And, while every period has exhibited the signs of public degeneracy, none in our history presents more fearful proofs of the impiety and obduracy of great masses of the people. We have abandoned, in great measure, the faith and practice of our ancestors, in putting aside from their lawful supremacy the Christian ordinances and doctrines. The natural result is, that we have corrupted our ways in all the circles of society and all the pursuits of life. We have become as a field rank with the growth of all the vices and heaped with the pollution of mighty crimes. The rigid training of former times through family government, discipline, and instruction has been greatly relaxed, if not in many cases wholly neglected. Indeed, there are multitudes of parents in the land who from physical and moral causes are totally unfit to have the care of the children to whom they have given birth: so that a generation of human beings is growing up in one of the most favored regions of the globe, whose preparation for the responsibilities of their age and mission has been sadly at fault, and whose precocity in levity, mischief, and insubordination already equals the vitiating examples that are set before them.

The education of the nation is going forward with rapid strides, but it is in a lamentable degree under the auspices of immorality and irreligion, alike in the high and the low places of the community. The unblushing venality and brazen wickedness of a large portion of the conductors of the public press and of public men of the country have strongly tended to demoralize the nation, to undermine the foundations and destroy the influence of Christian discipline, and to turn the mind and heart of many to infidelity and licentiousness. The same baleful spirit has moved upon the fountains of human learning and science, and so secularized the philosophy of the times as to have set the high faculty of human reason at variance with the sacred majesty of religion, and to have plunged thousands upon thousands of our young men into a sea of splendid sophistry and subtlety and all the the ruinous speculation of a proud but vain imagination.

Meanwhile, from the hearts of multitudes the dignity of honest labor and the dictates of a sober and frugal economy have died out, on the one hand increasing pauperism and crime and lending to misfortune the aggravation of human improvidence, and the other fostering habits of false show, and thus increasing the temptation to deception, fraud, peculation, and the dishonesties of the most high-pampered extravagance and excess. Moreover, the wanton neglect or abuse of our providential blessings, and the unconscious apostasy from every sentiment of purity and virtue, have served greatly to defile and degrade the mind of a large portion of the community, and ill the centers of population with a low and vulgar herd, who throng the open temples of obscenity and infamy. Thus the materials are prepared for human guilt and wretchedness, whose catalogue of crimes and woes exhaust the power of language to express them. Beyond all this, political controversy and partisan strife for the reins and spoils of power, conducted without principle, and reeking with abuse, have take so fierce a form as often to have driven the best men from the arena and left the worst upon the field. The selfish and profligate stand forward to control the nominations and elections to office, and afterwards gamble with its duties and obligations without shame and without remorse."

This was penned by Byron Sunderland in 1863, and is from his introduction to The Christian Life and Character of the Civil Institutions of the United States compiled by Benjamin F. Morris--published in 1864.

waltmoreno

Why is it that no right thinking person would think of going to the butcher, the baker, or the candlestick maker and think that they could get their products for free? After all, those craftsmen are just doing their job. Obviously,ou have to pay the butcher, the baker, and the candlestick maker for their products.
But when it comes to health care, muddled headed people seem to think they should get health care for free. And the only difference is because the product is health care. Medical professionals who are just doing their job must get paid. Just like anyone else.
Is government health care enslavement? YES. Unwilling taxpayers are being ENSLAVED to pay for health care for others.
Is it class warfare? YES! Only because of class warfare can the left succeed in brainwashing most people to believe that one's health isn't one's own responsibility, but rather the responsibility of others. Preposterous!