Healthcare Reform? Let's Take a Close Look at Some Examples Abroad
May 9, 2017 18:29:46 #
S. Maturin wrote:
A minority of working, striving, tax-paying slogge... (show quote)
Here is another at a boy from me. We just seem to be more and more on the same page about such things.
May 9, 2017 18:34:03 #
JFlorio wrote:
Oh yea, and if you're self-employed and make more than you estimated. You're going to owe the ACA more money in the form of a fine. The people that argue for the ACA invariably aren't on it. Can't figure out why the whole country isn't up in arms when the politicians don't have to be on a plan they devise for the rest of us. That little fact should tell everyone just how good or bad something is.
I just thank God that I shut down my business before the ACA went into effect.
May 9, 2017 18:37:12 #
Sassy Lass wrote:
Well know it's an excellent plan when Congress and the Senate use the same plan! When it's good for them, it's great for us 👍🏻
I think most of will agree with that post.
May 9, 2017 18:52:22 #
JFlorio wrote:
I cannot believe the number of working age people I have come in contact with that are fine with living off a meager government check (SS disability for many) as long as they can sit around all day playing video games or texting. Many want to live with their parents. As long as they have their gadgets they are happy. This group cares little who would control them as long as their basic needs are taken care of.
Well you must consider in all this HealthCare planning, "children" up to the age of 26 can stay on Mom and Dad's policy..Now how does that help the ACA have those young people not sick, paying a premium for insurance..And if those same 26 yr olds aren't working and paying taxes welll, what does that do to that anticipated premium factered in but not collected???
The brilliance of government simply astounds, does it not???
Relative to the article posted, I took a look at Japan survival ratio in cancer and hearts~~
People in Japan have the longest life expectancy at birth of those in any country in the world. Life expectancy at birth was 83 years in 2009 (male 79.6 years, female 86.4 years).[4] This was achieved in a fairly short time through a rapid reduction in mortality rates secondary to communicable diseases from the 1950s to the early 1960s, followed by a large reduction in stroke mortality rates after the mid-60s.[12]
In 2008 the number of acute care beds per 1000 total population was 8.1, which was higher than in other OECD countries such as the U.S. (2.7).[4] Comparisons based on this number may be difficult to make, however, since 34% of patients were admitted to hospitals for longer than 30 days even in beds that were classified as acute care.[13] Staffing per bed is very low. There are four times more MRI scanners per head, and six times the number of CT scanners, compared with the average European provision. The average patient visits a doctor 13 times a year - more than double the average for OECD countries.[14]
In 2008 per 1000 population, the number of practicing physicians was 2.2, which was almost the same as that in U.S. (2.4), and the number of practicing nurses was 9.5, which was a little lower than that in U.S. (10.8), and almost the same as that in UK (9.5) or in Canada (9.2).[4] Physicians and nurses are licensed for life with no requirement for license renewal, continuing medical or nursing education, and no peer or utilization review.[15] OECD data lists specialists and generalists together for Japan[4] because these two are not officially differentiated. Traditionally, physicians have been trained to become subspecialists,[16] but once they have completed their training, only a few have continued to practice as subspecialists. The rest have left the large hospitals to practice in small community hospitals or open their own clinics without any formal retraining as general practitioners.[6] The first general practitioner course was established in Saga Medical University in 1978.
Quality~~
Japanese outcomes for high level medical treatment is generally competitive with that of the US. A comparison of two reports in the New England Journal of Medicine by MacDonald et al.[17] and Sakuramoto et al.[18] suggest that outcomes for gastro-esophageal cancer is better in Japan than the US in both patients treated with surgery alone and surgery followed by chemotherapy. Japan excels in the five-year survival rates of colon cancer, lung cancer, pancreatic cancer and liver cancer based on the comparison of a report by the American Association of Oncology and another report by the Japan Foundation for the Promotion of Cancer research.[19] The same comparison shows that the US excels in the five-year survival of rectal cancer, breast cancer, prostate cancer and malignant lymphoma. Surgical outcomes tend to be better in Japan for most cancers while overall survival tend to be longer in the US due to the more aggressive use of chemotherapy in late stage cancers. A comparison of the data from United States Renal Data System (USRDS) 2009 and Japan Renology Society 2009 shows that the annual mortality of patients undergoing dialysis in Japan is 13% compared to 22.4% in the US. Five-year survival of patients under dialysis is 59.9% in Japan and 38% in the US.
In an article titled "Does Japanese Coronary Artery Bypass Grafting Qualify as a Global Leader?"[20] Masami Ochi of Nippon Medical School points out that Japanese coronary bypass surgeries surpass those of other countries in multiple criteria. According to the International Association of Heart and Lung Transplantation, the five-year survival of heart transplant recipients around the world who had their heart transplants between 1992 and 2009 was 71.9% (ISHLT 2011.6) while the five-year survival of Japanese heart transplant recipients is 96.2% according to a report by Osaka University.[21] However, only 120 heart transplants have been performed domestically by 2011 due to a lack of donors.
The 47 local government prefectures have some responsibility for overseeing the quality of health care, but there is no systematic collection of treatment or outcome data. They oversee annual hospital inspections. The Japan Council for Quality Health Care accredits about 25% of hospitals.[22]
Been a lot of talk about Australia's Health Care too..Time to take a look...
Single payer is what BOs failed coverage is all about anyway~~ NOT an if anymore but when~~~~
May 9, 2017 19:05:02 #
S. Maturin wrote:
A minority of working, striving, tax-paying slogge... (show quote)
My sides do ache from laughing!!!! The visual perfect!! Can't tell if one sex or other or both~~~~
And if you call them on it, they turn into melting snowflakes that need their therapy room of kleenex tissues and toys..
Can you just imagine what health care costs are going to skyrocket to for their meds alone???
May 9, 2017 19:13:14 #
EL wrote:
Did you ever think you would see Americans like those we're hearing from today? I didn't. And, I shouldn't have called them Americans. They're FAR from it!
That's because they are not true Americans...They are wanna be socialist trying to take over.....Their little claimed name of Progressives is to throw us off of what they are really trying to achieve..
All for one and ONE for all..Should be their motto!! It is their intent....
May 9, 2017 19:17:28 #
JFlorio wrote:
In PC parlance the typical voter is naïve. In my parlance they're dumber than hell. Most vote on promises. Promises that usually consist of someone saying "here's what I am going to give you." Just like the left losing their minds over the new health care bill, House version. No one knows what this will look like. I imagine, and hope it takes months to complete. Let the ACA implode like it will. Show people what a piece of crap this bill was.
Well said!!! Hell, let a shut down come in September too if needed..Give them all time to think and DO something then~~Seeing how fast they will be out of office 2020!!
May 10, 2017 07:06:27 #
lindajoy wrote:
Well you must consider in all this HealthCare plan... (show quote)
A post which demonstrates the use of good, classical use of logic; especially this part: "
Well you must consider in all this HealthCare planning, "children" up to the age of 26 can stay on Mom and Dad's policy..Now how does that help the ACA have those young people not sick, paying a premium for insurance..And if those same 26 yr olds aren't working and paying taxes welll, what does that do to that anticipated premium factered in but not collected???
The brilliance of government simply astounds, does it not???"
May 10, 2017 08:10:14 #
bggamers
Loc: georgia
lindajoy wrote:
My sides do ache from laughing!!!! The visual perfect!! Can't tell if one sex or other or both~~~~
And if you call them on it, they turn into melting snowflakes that need their therapy room of kleenex tissues and toys..
Can you just imagine what health care costs are going to skyrocket to for their meds alone???
And if you call them on it, they turn into melting snowflakes that need their therapy room of kleenex tissues and toys..
Can you just imagine what health care costs are going to skyrocket to for their meds alone???
what the insurance co. didnt take in concideration at the start is the sudden drop into the insurance is BABY BOOMERS retiring they use the insurance more due to age and health issues but are living longer I happened to be one. Have alway had insurance at work but filed for s/s 1 1/2 yrs early and took Obama care bad mistake jacked the rates accross the board after 5 mo. double the premiums from 275 to 475 had to drop it and go back to work for the insurance. Now their making me pay back the rebate 1600.00 talk about getting taken to the cleaners. I really think that putting people in separate insurance is going to be better for the majority of healther individuals because they wont have to pay higher primiums to cover the higher cost of the older and sicker which I agree is not fair as long as we with pre existing conditions have fair coverage there is no problem.
May 10, 2017 08:11:32 #
May 10, 2017 08:17:35 #
lindajoy wrote:
Thank You, S....
I enjoy good reasoning- always did, and see no reason to let examples go unnoticed.
Too many folks today cannot sort fact from fiction, lies from truth. You are doing your part.
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