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Mark Levin: "House bill only repeals 10% of Obamacare"
May 5, 2017 08:54:41   #
Rivers
 
Conservative talk show host Mark Levin says that the House "repeal" of Obamacare repeals only about 10% of Obamacare. He made the following points on his show on Thursday:

1) Some Obamacare taxes are repealed. Hooray!

2) The government will pay $138 billion to cover people with "pre-existing conditions," a fancy name for people who refuse to get health insurance until they get sick, and then expect you, the taxpayer, to pay for their health care. One hundred thirty-eight billion dollars is a lot of money.

3) The federal government will continue to pay all costs of new Medicaid patients until 2020. That gives states incentives to continue to sign up more and more people for Medicaid, a program that is rapidly becoming unsustainable.

4) It is still illegal to sell insurance across state lines. Competition across state lines would have helped keep premiums down. Now that will not happen.

4) The insurance mandates are not repealed, but states can apply for a waiver.

This last point is the heart of the House bill. A lot of the increased costs of Obamacare stem from the requirements that insurance cover a whole bunch of so-called "Essential Benefits" like drug addiction and psychiatric services, which raises the cost for everyone who doesn't need or want such coverage.

Under the House bill, states can apply for a waiver so insurance companies can sell insurance without such "Essential Benefits". They can then offer policies at much lower costs since they are not offering to cover so many extra areas.

The problem with this is that consumers will only see lower premiums if they live in states that decide to allow insurance companies to sell policies without such "Essential Benefits". If you live in a blue state like New York or California or Illinois, you won't have this choice. The "repeal" bill puts the decision of what should be in the policies in the state's hands, not the consumer's.

But even if you live in a red state that decides to let insurers opt out of such expensive coverage, the federal government can still veto the opt-out and require insurers to offer only policies that cover everything. The Obamacare rules have not been lifted, they have been suspended only if an individual state applies to the federal government for a waiver and only if the federal government does not deny the waiver. That means the next time we get a Democratic president, he can deny the waivers and in this respect restore Obamacare to exactly the way it used to be. This is the Republican's definition of "repealing" Obamacare.

President Trump calls this the "repeal and replacement" of Obamacare. That's simply not true. One wonders how the results might have been different if President Trump had proposed a bill repealing Obamacare. Despite his promise to do so, the president never once submitted a bill or even a proposal for repealing Obamacare. He simply waited for whatever emerged from the House and declared victory.

If President Trump had addressed the nation in a series of addresses, stressing the reasons why Obamacare should have been repealed, pressure might have been put on congressmen and we might have gotten a better bill. That's how Ronald Reagan did it. But Trump preferred to sit back. His only contribution was stating that he wanted pre-existing conditions covered, that people who refused to get insurance should have their medical costs paid for by the rest of us.

What do you think? Is this the great "repeal" of Obamacare that President Trump says it is? Or is Mark Levin right and this is more of a slimming down of Obamacare rather than the dissolution of it?

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May 5, 2017 09:19:58   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
This is a joke. Unfortunately it seems to be what the chicken shit American majority wants. Taken care of from birth to grave. Where is the legal limits on malpractice? How about choice? No personal responsibility. The sheeple fight over health care while they lose their freedoms.
Rivers wrote:
Conservative talk show host Mark Levin says that the House "repeal" of Obamacare repeals only about 10% of Obamacare. He made the following points on his show on Thursday:

1) Some Obamacare taxes are repealed. Hooray!

2) The government will pay $138 billion to cover people with "pre-existing conditions," a fancy name for people who refuse to get health insurance until they get sick, and then expect you, the taxpayer, to pay for their health care. One hundred thirty-eight billion dollars is a lot of money.

3) The federal government will continue to pay all costs of new Medicaid patients until 2020. That gives states incentives to continue to sign up more and more people for Medicaid, a program that is rapidly becoming unsustainable.

4) It is still illegal to sell insurance across state lines. Competition across state lines would have helped keep premiums down. Now that will not happen.

4) The insurance mandates are not repealed, but states can apply for a waiver.

This last point is the heart of the House bill. A lot of the increased costs of Obamacare stem from the requirements that insurance cover a whole bunch of so-called "Essential Benefits" like drug addiction and psychiatric services, which raises the cost for everyone who doesn't need or want such coverage.

Under the House bill, states can apply for a waiver so insurance companies can sell insurance without such "Essential Benefits". They can then offer policies at much lower costs since they are not offering to cover so many extra areas.

The problem with this is that consumers will only see lower premiums if they live in states that decide to allow insurance companies to sell policies without such "Essential Benefits". If you live in a blue state like New York or California or Illinois, you won't have this choice. The "repeal" bill puts the decision of what should be in the policies in the state's hands, not the consumer's.

But even if you live in a red state that decides to let insurers opt out of such expensive coverage, the federal government can still veto the opt-out and require insurers to offer only policies that cover everything. The Obamacare rules have not been lifted, they have been suspended only if an individual state applies to the federal government for a waiver and only if the federal government does not deny the waiver. That means the next time we get a Democratic president, he can deny the waivers and in this respect restore Obamacare to exactly the way it used to be. This is the Republican's definition of "repealing" Obamacare.

President Trump calls this the "repeal and replacement" of Obamacare. That's simply not true. One wonders how the results might have been different if President Trump had proposed a bill repealing Obamacare. Despite his promise to do so, the president never once submitted a bill or even a proposal for repealing Obamacare. He simply waited for whatever emerged from the House and declared victory.

If President Trump had addressed the nation in a series of addresses, stressing the reasons why Obamacare should have been repealed, pressure might have been put on congressmen and we might have gotten a better bill. That's how Ronald Reagan did it. But Trump preferred to sit back. His only contribution was stating that he wanted pre-existing conditions covered, that people who refused to get insurance should have their medical costs paid for by the rest of us.

What do you think? Is this the great "repeal" of Obamacare that President Trump says it is? Or is Mark Levin right and this is more of a slimming down of Obamacare rather than the dissolution of it?
Conservative talk show host Mark Levin says that t... (show quote)

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May 5, 2017 12:29:17   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Rivers wrote:
Conservative talk show host Mark Levin says that the House "repeal" of Obamacare repeals only about 10% of Obamacare. He made the following points on his show on Thursday:

1) Some Obamacare taxes are repealed. Hooray!

2) The government will pay $138 billion to cover people with "pre-existing conditions," a fancy name for people who refuse to get health insurance until they get sick, and then expect you, the taxpayer, to pay for their health care. One hundred thirty-eight billion dollars is a lot of money.

3) The federal government will continue to pay all costs of new Medicaid patients until 2020. That gives states incentives to continue to sign up more and more people for Medicaid, a program that is rapidly becoming unsustainable.

4) It is still illegal to sell insurance across state lines. Competition across state lines would have helped keep premiums down. Now that will not happen.

4) The insurance mandates are not repealed, but states can apply for a waiver.

This last point is the heart of the House bill. A lot of the increased costs of Obamacare stem from the requirements that insurance cover a whole bunch of so-called "Essential Benefits" like drug addiction and psychiatric services, which raises the cost for everyone who doesn't need or want such coverage.

Under the House bill, states can apply for a waiver so insurance companies can sell insurance without such "Essential Benefits". They can then offer policies at much lower costs since they are not offering to cover so many extra areas.

The problem with this is that consumers will only see lower premiums if they live in states that decide to allow insurance companies to sell policies without such "Essential Benefits". If you live in a blue state like New York or California or Illinois, you won't have this choice. The "repeal" bill puts the decision of what should be in the policies in the state's hands, not the consumer's.

But even if you live in a red state that decides to let insurers opt out of such expensive coverage, the federal government can still veto the opt-out and require insurers to offer only policies that cover everything. The Obamacare rules have not been lifted, they have been suspended only if an individual state applies to the federal government for a waiver and only if the federal government does not deny the waiver. That means the next time we get a Democratic president, he can deny the waivers and in this respect restore Obamacare to exactly the way it used to be. This is the Republican's definition of "repealing" Obamacare.

President Trump calls this the "repeal and replacement" of Obamacare. That's simply not true. One wonders how the results might have been different if President Trump had proposed a bill repealing Obamacare. Despite his promise to do so, the president never once submitted a bill or even a proposal for repealing Obamacare. He simply waited for whatever emerged from the House and declared victory.

If President Trump had addressed the nation in a series of addresses, stressing the reasons why Obamacare should have been repealed, pressure might have been put on congressmen and we might have gotten a better bill. That's how Ronald Reagan did it. But Trump preferred to sit back. His only contribution was stating that he wanted pre-existing conditions covered, that people who refused to get insurance should have their medical costs paid for by the rest of us.

What do you think? Is this the great "repeal" of Obamacare that President Trump says it is? Or is Mark Levin right and this is more of a slimming down of Obamacare rather than the dissolution of it?
Conservative talk show host Mark Levin says that t... (show quote)



This is a bvetrayal of what Trump promised, a complete repeal of Obama care. The only thing needed was Removal of the Government prohibition on interstate competition. The private market functioned to providse most people with affordable health insurance. Those with existing conditions and the indigent could have been enrolled in Medicaid and it would not torque the economy anywhere near what Obama care has done. I have written to my Congressmen and the President expressing my disappointment that the government is still meddling in the citizens private lives. I don't expect to hear any response; the message will have to be sent in the polling booth at the next election.

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