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Apr 22, 2017 18:56:02   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
All we have been hearing from the right wing trump chumps is the paying for protesters idea..

Now we find they have been true.. The Republicans have paid very well..


Since the day after his inauguration, when millions of Americans took to the streets in protest, President Trump has claimed that protestors were being paid. The evidence-free attack is a common deflective tactic from authoritarian leaders, and it was laughed off by most progressive activists.

It turns out, however, protesters are in fact being paid in Arizona — by the state’s Republican Party.

Prior to a town hall hosted by Congresswoman Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ), the Arizona Republican Party sent out a plea to attend that included a cash reimbursement for joining the $25 coffee club where the town hall was held. The Arizona Republic reports that the party sent an email promising, “If someone does have to pay, the Party is willing to reimburse the expense.”

This may seem like small potatoes to some, but if you took part in the Women’s March, airport protests of the unconstitutional Muslim ban, last week’s Tax Day March, or any of the thousands of high energy demonstrations protesting the Trump regime’s reckless policies, you have incurred expenses. For some it’s simply surge prices or downtown prices. For others, it’s child care or time off work.

Despite those costs, no one in the resistance movement has asked for or been offered reimbursement. Meanwhile, Trump’s campaign owes supporters $4 million in promised legal fees to defend the violence that then-candidate Trump incited.

So, Trump is right about one thing. Protestors are being paid — or, at least, they have been promised payment — and he should know. After all, they are his supporters.

For those who oppose this president, however, not only are we not being paid to protest, we couldn’t be paid not to.

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Apr 22, 2017 19:04:14   #
moldyoldy
 
permafrost wrote:
All we have been hearing from the right wing trump chumps is the paying for protesters idea..

Now we find they have been true.. The Republicans have paid very well..


Since the day after his inauguration, when millions of Americans took to the streets in protest, President Trump has claimed that protestors were being paid. The evidence-free attack is a common deflective tactic from authoritarian leaders, and it was laughed off by most progressive activists.

It turns out, however, protesters are in fact being paid in Arizona — by the state’s Republican Party.

Prior to a town hall hosted by Congresswoman Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ), the Arizona Republican Party sent out a plea to attend that included a cash reimbursement for joining the $25 coffee club where the town hall was held. The Arizona Republic reports that the party sent an email promising, “If someone does have to pay, the Party is willing to reimburse the expense.”

This may seem like small potatoes to some, but if you took part in the Women’s March, airport protests of the unconstitutional Muslim ban, last week’s Tax Day March, or any of the thousands of high energy demonstrations protesting the Trump regime’s reckless policies, you have incurred expenses. For some it’s simply surge prices or downtown prices. For others, it’s child care or time off work.

Despite those costs, no one in the resistance movement has asked for or been offered reimbursement. Meanwhile, Trump’s campaign owes supporters $4 million in promised legal fees to defend the violence that then-candidate Trump incited.

So, Trump is right about one thing. Protestors are being paid — or, at least, they have been promised payment — and he should know. After all, they are his supporters.

For those who oppose this president, however, not only are we not being paid to protest, we couldn’t be paid not to.
All we have been hearing from the right wing trump... (show quote)


Everything trump accuses others of doing are things that he is actively doing.

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Apr 22, 2017 19:04:37   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
permafrost wrote:
All we have been hearing from the right wing trump chumps is the paying for protesters idea..

Now we find they have been true.. The Republicans have paid very well..


Since the day after his inauguration, when millions of Americans took to the streets in protest, President Trump has claimed that protestors were being paid. The evidence-free attack is a common deflective tactic from authoritarian leaders, and it was laughed off by most progressive activists.

It turns out, however, protesters are in fact being paid in Arizona — by the state’s Republican Party.

Prior to a town hall hosted by Congresswoman Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ), the Arizona Republican Party sent out a plea to attend that included a cash reimbursement for joining the $25 coffee club where the town hall was held. The Arizona Republic reports that the party sent an email promising, “If someone does have to pay, the Party is willing to reimburse the expense.”

This may seem like small potatoes to some, but if you took part in the Women’s March, airport protests of the unconstitutional Muslim ban, last week’s Tax Day March, or any of the thousands of high energy demonstrations protesting the Trump regime’s reckless policies, you have incurred expenses. For some it’s simply surge prices or downtown prices. For others, it’s child care or time off work.

Despite those costs, no one in the resistance movement has asked for or been offered reimbursement. Meanwhile, Trump’s campaign owes supporters $4 million in promised legal fees to defend the violence that then-candidate Trump incited.

So, Trump is right about one thing. Protestors are being paid — or, at least, they have been promised payment — and he should know. After all, they are his supporters.

For those who oppose this president, however, not only are we not being paid to protest, we couldn’t be paid not to.
All we have been hearing from the right wing trump... (show quote)


More lies from the Dementia ward....I can see you and your Goat are having a spat again...otherwise you would be busy humping right now. Oh wait....you are all tuckered out already so sitting posting while you get your second wind up for more commando Goat loving moves...oh you old stanky devil you.....will you make that Goat smile before the evening is over? Go on...give it your best shot....Goat boy!

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Apr 22, 2017 19:05:51   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Everything trump accuses others of doing are things that he is actively doing.


What was that? You decided to post some more of your lies? Nothing new about THAT!

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Apr 22, 2017 19:10:06   #
Morgan
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Everything trump accuses others of doing are things that he is actively doing.


That is the way of it isn't it, you project what you do or are.

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Apr 22, 2017 19:30:47   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
America Only wrote:
More lies from the Dementia ward....I can see you and your Goat are having a spat again...otherwise you would be busy humping right now. Oh wait....you are all tuckered out already so sitting posting while you get your second wind up for more commando Goat loving moves...oh you old stanky devil you.....will you make that Goat smile before the evening is over? Go on...give it your best shot....Goat boy!




AO,


What is it with you and your goat fetish?

You seem to have been trying to spread it among you fellow right wingers, but even they can not understand your compulsion to crave the animals you cohabit with..

Only you, among all the right leaning members of OPP keep longing for those goats you speak of day after day..

It is true, you have more than the average of mental problems.

I see nothing other the bemused wonder with your constant display of your wishes but the uniqueness of your disorder would cause any friends you should have to commit you to the local mental health facility before you injure a local hooker in seeking your goal..

But do not look for help.. A person like you should be consigned to life with the Bundies, maybe they will convert you to heifers..



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Apr 22, 2017 19:33:55   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Did you follow the link on this? If not, let me provide you the content: "The Arizona Republican Party is trying to keep the pressure on U.S. Rep. Kyrsten Sinema over donations she accepted from the founders of Backpage.com, including an offer to reimburse people who paid to attend a Wednesday night campaign event for the Arizona Democrat.

The efforts to press Sinema came as the congresswoman made her first public remarks on the controversy over donations from Michael Lacey and James Larkin, founders of Backpage.com and former Phoenix New Times executives. She promised closer scrutiny of future contributions"

For those who do not know, Backpage.com knowingly accepts ads offering sex with underage girls.

So, this was not protesting Democrats or paying to have homes, business, cars looted and burned it was "It would be absolutely wonderful if we had as many of her Republican consituents (sic) as possible attend this event to ask her why she accepted thousands of dollars from the creator of Backpage.com," And that email you reference went on to say: "The email noted that to attend the event required joining the coffee club and paying $25. "If someone does have to pay, the Party is willing to reimburse the expense," the email stated."

Kory Langhofer, attorney for the state Republican Party, said if people are reimbursed the $25 entry fee, the party will "make sure it's fully disclosed and reported correctly. As long as the transaction is disclosed and transparent, it's perfectly acceptable," he said.

So... big protest was asking questions at a coffee club where nonmenbers were not allowed in until they paid the fee, people wanted to attend but did not want to shell out the money to hear the most recent excuses from U.S. Rep. Kyrsten Sinema on why she is being supported by a probable "underage sex for sale" web site. And if you are opposed to them paying the $25... that means you support those who encourage sex slavery.

Larkin and Lacey, along with their business partners, have been besieged by a growing number of legal difficulties: criminal charges in California; lawsuits by trafficking victims in six states; and a blistering report in January by the U.S. Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations. That report, “Backpage.com’s Knowing Facilitation of Online Sex Trafficking,” concluded that Backpage.com knowingly accepted ads from pimps who had coerced underage children into having sex for money. A federal grand jury is reviewing evidence against both men, and lawyers for Lacey and Larkin expect the men to be indicted.

BTW... Here is the link to the story: http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/arizona/2017/04/20/gop-pressures-kyrsten-sinema-on-backpage-donations/100683704/

permafrost wrote:
All we have been hearing from the right wing trump chumps is the paying for protesters idea..

Now we find they have been true.. The Republicans have paid very well..


Since the day after his inauguration, when millions of Americans took to the streets in protest, President Trump has claimed that protestors were being paid. The evidence-free attack is a common deflective tactic from authoritarian leaders, and it was laughed off by most progressive activists.

It turns out, however, protesters are in fact being paid in Arizona — by the state’s Republican Party.

Prior to a town hall hosted by Congresswoman Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ), the Arizona Republican Party sent out a plea to attend that included a cash reimbursement for joining the $25 coffee club where the town hall was held. The Arizona Republic reports that the party sent an email promising, “If someone does have to pay, the Party is willing to reimburse the expense.”

This may seem like small potatoes to some, but if you took part in the Women’s March, airport protests of the unconstitutional Muslim ban, last week’s Tax Day March, or any of the thousands of high energy demonstrations protesting the Trump regime’s reckless policies, you have incurred expenses. For some it’s simply surge prices or downtown prices. For others, it’s child care or time off work.

Despite those costs, no one in the resistance movement has asked for or been offered reimbursement. Meanwhile, Trump’s campaign owes supporters $4 million in promised legal fees to defend the violence that then-candidate Trump incited.

So, Trump is right about one thing. Protestors are being paid — or, at least, they have been promised payment — and he should know. After all, they are his supporters.

For those who oppose this president, however, not only are we not being paid to protest, we couldn’t be paid not to.
All we have been hearing from the right wing trump... (show quote)

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Apr 22, 2017 20:40:52   #
missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore
 
permafrost wrote:
All we have been hearing from the right wing trump chumps is the paying for protesters idea..

Now we find they have been true.. The Republicans have paid very well..


Since the day after his inauguration, when millions of Americans took to the streets in protest, President Trump has claimed that protestors were being paid. The evidence-free attack is a common deflective tactic from authoritarian leaders, and it was laughed off by most progressive activists.

It turns out, however, protesters are in fact being paid in Arizona — by the state’s Republican Party.

Prior to a town hall hosted by Congresswoman Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ), the Arizona Republican Party sent out a plea to attend that included a cash reimbursement for joining the $25 coffee club where the town hall was held. The Arizona Republic reports that the party sent an email promising, “If someone does have to pay, the Party is willing to reimburse the expense.”

This may seem like small potatoes to some, but if you took part in the Women’s March, airport protests of the unconstitutional Muslim ban, last week’s Tax Day March, or any of the thousands of high energy demonstrations protesting the Trump regime’s reckless policies, you have incurred expenses. For some it’s simply surge prices or downtown prices. For others, it’s child care or time off work.

Despite those costs, no one in the resistance movement has asked for or been offered reimbursement. Meanwhile, Trump’s campaign owes supporters $4 million in promised legal fees to defend the violence that then-candidate Trump incited.

So, Trump is right about one thing. Protestors are being paid — or, at least, they have been promised payment — and he should know. After all, they are his supporters.

For those who oppose this president, however, not only are we not being paid to protest, we couldn’t be paid not to.
All we have been hearing from the right wing trump... (show quote)


Horseshit Permabraindead . Horseshit.
Do we really need to go back to basics with your people again
and show you sub-humans where the millions of dollars given
to far left radicalized groups come from ? REALLY ?

And you come up with this one lame , disputable example .
REALLY ? You never finished propaganda 101 did you ?

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Apr 22, 2017 20:52:45   #
moldyoldy
 
So many political pervs.

http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/04/22/trump-campaign-chair-just-got-arrested-child-sex-trafficking/

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Apr 22, 2017 21:24:46   #
missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore
 


Yes there are Moldy and the ole you know what is about to hit the fan . Pizzagate about to explode .



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Apr 22, 2017 23:00:28   #
moldyoldy
 
missinglink wrote:
Yes there are Moldy and the ole you know what is about to hit the fan . Pizzagate about to explode .


You must get your news from the enquirer just like trump.

Pizzagate is a debunked[2][3] conspiracy theory that emerged during the 2016 United States presidential election cycle. The theory, which went viral, claimed that John Podesta's emails, which were leaked by WikiLeaks, contained coded messages referring to human trafficking and connecting a number of restaurants in the United States and members of the Democratic Party with a fabricated child-sex ring. The false theory has been extensively discredited by a wide array of organizations and described as a "fictitious conspiracy theory" by the District of Columbia Police Department.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory

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Apr 22, 2017 23:10:58   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
This is what you get when you turn to Wikipedia for "informed" reports. Wikipedia is written by people, no special background... most are Liberal who do not have anything better to do than add their views with fake news as background. Were you area that in February 2017 a number of individuals were arrested under "Pizzagate"... probably not. Illinois Sheriff's Department, Sheriff Thomas J. Dart said; "Sex trafficking continues to destroy countless lives, and this broad national movement should send a strong message""It's particularly meaningful that this sting culminated on the day of the Super Bowl, which unfortunately has emerged as a prominent haven for sex trafficking.""I'm exceedingly proud to lead the nation in targeting sex buyers and traffickers""We made it clear that there is no place for victimization and sexual exploitation."

Read more at: http://www.neonnettle.com/news/1895-pizzagate-arrests-fbi-arrest-hundreds-in-child-sex-trafficking-sting
Just in case you do not like that site, http://abc13.com/news/474-arrested-in-california-human-trafficking-stings/1734315/
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trafficking-arrests-idUSKBN15G5J6


The FBI has conducted a huge nationwide sting operation that has seen over 500 arrested in connection with human trafficking offenses in what appears to be the first wave of Pizzagate related arrests.


quote=moldyoldy]You must get your news from the enquirer just like trump.

Pizzagate is a debunked[2][3] conspiracy theory that emerged during the 2016 United States presidential election cycle. The theory, which went viral, claimed that John Podesta's emails, which were leaked by WikiLeaks, contained coded messages referring to human trafficking and connecting a number of restaurants in the United States and members of the Democratic Party with a fabricated child-sex ring. The false theory has been extensively discredited by a wide array of organizations and described as a "fictitious conspiracy theory" by the District of Columbia Police Department.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory[/quote]

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Apr 22, 2017 23:53:34   #
moldyoldy
 
Pennylynn wrote:
This is what you get when you turn to Wikipedia for "informed" reports. Wikipedia is written by people, no special background... most are Liberal who do not have anything better to do than add their views with fake news as background. Were you area that in February 2017 a number of individuals were arrested under "Pizzagate"... probably not. Illinois Sheriff's Department, Sheriff Thomas J. Dart said; "Sex trafficking continues to destroy countless lives, and this broad national movement should send a strong message""It's particularly meaningful that this sting culminated on the day of the Super Bowl, which unfortunately has emerged as a prominent haven for sex trafficking.""I'm exceedingly proud to lead the nation in targeting sex buyers and traffickers""We made it clear that there is no place for victimization and sexual exploitation."

Read more at: http://www.neonnettle.com/news/1895-pizzagate-arrests-fbi-arrest-hundreds-in-child-sex-trafficking-sting
Just in case you do not like that site, http://abc13.com/news/474-arrested-in-california-human-trafficking-stings/1734315/
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trafficking-arrests-idUSKBN15G5J6


The FBI has conducted a huge nationwide sting operation that has seen over 500 arrested in connection with human trafficking offenses in what appears to be the first wave of Pizzagate related arrests.


quote=moldyoldy]You must get your news from the enquirer just like trump.

Pizzagate is a debunked[2][3] conspiracy theory that emerged during the 2016 United States presidential election cycle. The theory, which went viral, claimed that John Podesta's emails, which were leaked by WikiLeaks, contained coded messages referring to human trafficking and connecting a number of restaurants in the United States and members of the Democratic Party with a fabricated child-sex ring. The false theory has been extensively discredited by a wide array of organizations and described as a "fictitious conspiracy theory" by the District of Columbia Police Department.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory
This is what you get when you turn to Wikipedia fo... (show quote)
[/quote]

Sex trafficking is as old as history, but that story is completely false.



CLAIM
The 'Podesta e-mails' revealed the existence of a secret society of pedophiles operating through a pizza place loosely connected to Clinton associate David Brock. See Example(s)
EXAMPLES
Collected via e-mail, November 2016
Hi, this is something I’ve been reading about a lot lately on Reddit and it’s really starting to annoy the crap out of me:
Have you heard about the “pizzagate” conspiracy theory?
It seems to be the easiest way to get pretty caught up is through this Reddit post:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pizzagate/comments/5da0kp/comet_ping_pong_pizzagate_summary/
Now, there is obviously some weird stuff in there, but I really think these people are starting to go crazy!! One of the supposedly inappropriate pictures they pull from James Alefantis’ instagram is of a smiling girl with her hands taped down to a table. Yeah that’s weird but, can that not just be a really innocent game? Like just picking on a little kid?
I have many questions like that about most of the evidence they have. They have even stated the name “James Alefantis” is similar to the french saying for “I love children,” they say that Comet Pizza’s menu contains a pedophile symbol (it’s a set of ping pong paddles?!?), they say there are obvious pedophilic references in instagram posts made by Alefantis of literal pizza memes. Am I the only person who thinks pizza is just pizza? It’s like people who love bacon are obsessed with bacon. This guy owns a pizza place, the act of stuffing your face with pizza is like a trendy meme right now, he’s the owner of a pizza place, why wouldn’t he post pics of pizza?
It’s pretty crazy, but getting traction in the past few days, as some of the “suspects” involved are posting responses to social media, obviously denying everything.
What do you think? Have you heard of it? I’m sure there’s some kind of international pedophile ring, but I don’t know if these people are pointing fingers at the right people.

FALSE
ORIGIN
On 4 November 2016, Reddit user u/DumbScribblyUnctious published a thread titled “Comet Ping Pong – Pizzagate Summary” to subreddit r/The_Donald (a community of Donald Trump supporters), which appears to have touched off a complex and detailed conspiracy theory involving WikiLeaks’ release of e-mails from former Hillary Clinton presidential campaign chair John Podesta, child exploitation, and a Washington, D.C., pizzeria called Comet Ping Pong.
None of this elaborate conspiracy theory was true, as the New York Times noted:
None of it was true. While [Comet Ping Pong pizzeria owner James] Alefantis has some prominent Democratic friends in Washington and was a supporter of Mrs. Clinton, he has never met her, does not sell or abuse children, and is not being investigated by law enforcement for any of these claims. He and his 40 employees had unwittingly become real people caught in the middle of a storm of fake news.
“From this insane, fabricated conspiracy theory, we’ve come under constant assault,” said Mr. Alefantis, 42, who was once in a relationship with David Brock, a provocative former right-wing journalist who became an outspoken advocate for Mrs. Clinton.
Although the original “Pizzagate” post was deleted at some point between 4 and 21 November 2016, archived versions of it contained what appeared to be the original post in its entirety. (A subreddit dedicated to the controversy, r/pizzagate, was created in the interim.) A brief and incomplete summary of the theory espoused in the original post goes as follows:
Comet Pizza is a pizza place owned by James Alefantis, who is the former gay boyfriend of David Brock, the CEO of Correct The Record. It has been the venue for dozens of events for the Hillary campaign staff. John Podesta has had campaign fundraisers there for both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. John’s brother and business partner Tony Podesta has his birthday party there every year. [https://i.sli.mg/1MqPHA.png]
It’s also a dive that according to reviews and photos has hidden bathroom doors and creepy murals. The bathrooms in particular have murals exclusively of nude women, as well as a great deal of graffiti relating to sex. Reviews of the restaurant are bizarrely polarized. Websites describing it positively note that there are regularly “unsupervised children running around”. Their menu include a pedophilic symbol, as do the signs and decorations of other neighboring businesses.
The music acts and the posters promoting same acts are bizarre in their presentation, content, and lyrical focus, but are still promoted as being “for all ages”. The overtly sexual content would suggest otherwise.
The same has taken place in reference to videos recorded inside Comet Ping Pong by people that frequent their establishment as well as video referencing Comet Ping Pong positively from the exterior.
While initially not the central focus of the investigation at the onset, Comet Ping Pong is a much more overt and much more disturbing hub of coincidences. Everyone associated with the business is making semi-overt, semi-tongue-in-cheek, and semi-sarcastic inferences towards sex with minors. The artists that work for and with the business also generate nothing but cultish imagery of disembodiment, blood, beheadings, sex, and of course pizza.
Several pages were linked to support the details of the claim (an e-mail in which David Brock was described as “batshit crazy” by Clinton associate Neera Tanden was among them) and the post primarily focused on Alefantis and his loose ties to the Clinton campaign via a former romantic relationship with David Brock of Media Matters for America.
Users tracked down Alefantis’ purported Instagram account (since deleted or restricted), which they said hosted images of children, gay clubs, drugs, and generally “bizarre” or unsettling imagery:
James Alefantis’ instagram late 11/5/16. by morning of 11/7/16 it was set to private.
We recently found the instagram account of James Alefantis. The contents of it are indescribably bizarre and the contexts of the posts and comment chains are weird. Alefantis does not have any children nor do his closest associates, but the photos seem to be a near constant assortment of different children of a variety of ages, intermingled between posts about gay bars, clubs, photos of common rape drugs, and piles of foreign currency. After it being trawled through for 24 hours it has been set to private. A large set of archived copies can be seen here in the next section. Similarly the instagram and twitter accounts of Comet Ping Pong are being edited selectively. The accounts of the people favoriting and commenting on these posts are equally bizarre in both content, context, and demeanor.
However, the photographs that the Instagram account purportedly hosted were instead, apparently, taken from the pages of various people who “liked” the restaurant’s page on Facebook: 
In a statement, the District of Columbia Metropolitan Police Department said it was monitoring the situation and is “aware of general threats being made against this establishment.” The F.B.I. said it “does not confirm or deny the existence of investigations.”
Most troubling for Mr. Alefantis and staff has been the use of children’s images, pilfered from the restaurant’s social media pages and the personal accounts of friends who had “liked” Comet Ping Pong online. Those photos have been used across dozens of websites. Parents, who declined to talk publicly for fear of retribution, have hired lawyers to get the photos removed.
Some of the photographs were apparently taken from random web sites:
@HagmannPI Why did you lie? You showed a supposedly authentic picture, but it’s from a website. So was everything a lie?? pic.twitter.com/YwqoXWYGKr
— Marla Craig (@marla_mulder) November 5, 2016
Alefantis also said many of the photographs were of children of family and friends, not patrons of Comet Ping Pong:
“The most sickening part of this vicious attack has been the stealing of Instagram images, Facebook images of children, minors, aged 5, 7, and 8 years old that are then slapped across their chat boards as nothing but pawns,” Alefantis says. “Yes, it’s scary to be attacked, it’s dangerous for business, but it’s disgusting and filthy of these people to be posting photos on these websites. … Someone should be prosecuting these people.”
Alefantis says the photos have been lifted from his personal social media accounts, and those of his friends and employees—not from the restaurant. “Kids in the restaurant are completely safe, none of these people are going there, they’re cowards,” he says, emphasizing that this scandal only exists on the internet. Inside the restaurant it’s business as usual … While Alefantis says he can weather the storm, he’s concerned about others who may not have as much community backing as he does. “I personally worry for the individuals who are being attacked and smeared and slandered and maligned and for other independent businesses or restaurants who are less established than Comet.”
Scattered evidence from previously leaked Podesta communications was included, such as an e-mail about children orphaned after 2010’s catastrophic earthquake in Haiti (along with information about adoption agencies and trafficking), or another thread claiming Clinton campaign manager John Podesta and his brother Tony Podesta were purportedly in Portugal at the time Madeleine McCann disappeared.
Additional evidence was presented in collage format, visually “linking” unrelated Instagram screengrabs, a number of individuals supposedly involved, purported coded signaling for pedophiles (such as a butterfly or a “play, eat, drink” insignia which could be abbreviated “PED”), and assertions that underground tunnels linked adjacent business (which themselves also use pedophilia code in their materials):



Imagery widely believed to be code for pedophiles to signal one another was a common theme in the myriad Pizzagate theories.  Purported symbols such as butterflies and spirals were increasingly spotted in unrelated places, creating the impression that conspiracy was as vast as it was nebulous.
(As we have noted in the past, fear of “pedophile code” imagery is occasionally the basis for panic, but law enforcement officials believed that the symbols themselves are used among adults to signal preferences, not as labels for children, not as markers placing them in any danger.)
On 6 November 2016, Washington City Paper summarized the claims, noting that the rumors originated with long-circulating claims about Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein, and confirming Alefantis’ link to Brock:
Trump supporters on sites like Reddit and 4chan have long been looking for a stronger connection between Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein, a financial tycoon and sex offender whose plane Bill Clinton sometimes used. The Wikileaks release of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta’s hacked emails inspired a feverish, and mostly hapless, search for salacious scandal evidence, while PolitiFact calls the evidence for a Clinton sex network “ridiculously thin.”
Late this week, Trump supporters on 4chan and Reddit began to focus on “Pizzagate”— innocuous connections between Podesta and emails mentioning pizza that they claimed were far more sinister than they initially appeared.
Why, they wondered, did Podesta have a handkerchief with a “pizza-related” map on it? And why did Podesta get so many emails about eating pizza?
The answer to any reasonable person would be that Podesta eats pizza sometimes. Indeed, Alefantis says, “pizza’s always a big thing in politics.” … To the alt right, though, “pizza” became a suspected code word for illegal sex trafficking. … In one 2008 email released by Wikileaks, Alefantis thanked Podesta for attending a fundraiser at the restaurant but regretted not making him a pizza. That drew amateur theorists’ attention to the restaurant’s murals, which they declared “creepy,” and the sliding doors in front of the restaurant’s bathrooms, dubbed “hidden rooms.”
In the period between 6 November 2016 and 21 November 2016, social media users continued to examine purported links to the pizzeria. Not long after Comet Ping Pong became the center of myriad ambiguous child abuse theories, the business’ Yelp page was locked down by the site’s operators, along with the following note:
This business recently made waves in the news, which often means that people come to this page to post their views on the news … While we don’t take a stand one way or the other when it comes to these news events, we do work to remove both positive and negative posts

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Apr 23, 2017 00:18:32   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Do tell this to the lawyers who are defending the 400 or so in California and those in Illinois... and for good measure those caught in Nevada and New York. I am sure that they would like your support.

moldyoldy wrote:
Sex trafficking is as old as history, but that story is completely false.



CLAIM
The 'Podesta e-mails' revealed the existence of a secret society of pedophiles operating through a pizza place loosely connected to Clinton associate David Brock. See Example(s)
EXAMPLES
Collected via e-mail, November 2016
Hi, this is something I’ve been reading about a lot lately on Reddit and it’s really starting to annoy the crap out of me:
Have you heard about the “pizzagate” conspiracy theory?
It seems to be the easiest way to get pretty caught up is through this Reddit post:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pizzagate/comments/5da0kp/comet_ping_pong_pizzagate_summary/
Now, there is obviously some weird stuff in there, but I really think these people are starting to go crazy!! One of the supposedly inappropriate pictures they pull from James Alefantis’ instagram is of a smiling girl with her hands taped down to a table. Yeah that’s weird but, can that not just be a really innocent game? Like just picking on a little kid?
I have many questions like that about most of the evidence they have. They have even stated the name “James Alefantis” is similar to the french saying for “I love children,” they say that Comet Pizza’s menu contains a pedophile symbol (it’s a set of ping pong paddles?!?), they say there are obvious pedophilic references in instagram posts made by Alefantis of literal pizza memes. Am I the only person who thinks pizza is just pizza? It’s like people who love bacon are obsessed with bacon. This guy owns a pizza place, the act of stuffing your face with pizza is like a trendy meme right now, he’s the owner of a pizza place, why wouldn’t he post pics of pizza?
It’s pretty crazy, but getting traction in the past few days, as some of the “suspects” involved are posting responses to social media, obviously denying everything.
What do you think? Have you heard of it? I’m sure there’s some kind of international pedophile ring, but I don’t know if these people are pointing fingers at the right people.

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ORIGIN
On 4 November 2016, Reddit user u/DumbScribblyUnctious published a thread titled “Comet Ping Pong – Pizzagate Summary” to subreddit r/The_Donald (a community of Donald Trump supporters), which appears to have touched off a complex and detailed conspiracy theory involving WikiLeaks’ release of e-mails from former Hillary Clinton presidential campaign chair John Podesta, child exploitation, and a Washington, D.C., pizzeria called Comet Ping Pong.
None of this elaborate conspiracy theory was true, as the New York Times noted:
None of it was true. While [Comet Ping Pong pizzeria owner James] Alefantis has some prominent Democratic friends in Washington and was a supporter of Mrs. Clinton, he has never met her, does not sell or abuse children, and is not being investigated by law enforcement for any of these claims. He and his 40 employees had unwittingly become real people caught in the middle of a storm of fake news.
“From this insane, fabricated conspiracy theory, we’ve come under constant assault,” said Mr. Alefantis, 42, who was once in a relationship with David Brock, a provocative former right-wing journalist who became an outspoken advocate for Mrs. Clinton.
Although the original “Pizzagate” post was deleted at some point between 4 and 21 November 2016, archived versions of it contained what appeared to be the original post in its entirety. (A subreddit dedicated to the controversy, r/pizzagate, was created in the interim.) A brief and incomplete summary of the theory espoused in the original post goes as follows:
Comet Pizza is a pizza place owned by James Alefantis, who is the former gay boyfriend of David Brock, the CEO of Correct The Record. It has been the venue for dozens of events for the Hillary campaign staff. John Podesta has had campaign fundraisers there for both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. John’s brother and business partner Tony Podesta has his birthday party there every year. [https://i.sli.mg/1MqPHA.png]
It’s also a dive that according to reviews and photos has hidden bathroom doors and creepy murals. The bathrooms in particular have murals exclusively of nude women, as well as a great deal of graffiti relating to sex. Reviews of the restaurant are bizarrely polarized. Websites describing it positively note that there are regularly “unsupervised children running around”. Their menu include a pedophilic symbol, as do the signs and decorations of other neighboring businesses.
The music acts and the posters promoting same acts are bizarre in their presentation, content, and lyrical focus, but are still promoted as being “for all ages”. The overtly sexual content would suggest otherwise.
The same has taken place in reference to videos recorded inside Comet Ping Pong by people that frequent their establishment as well as video referencing Comet Ping Pong positively from the exterior.
While initially not the central focus of the investigation at the onset, Comet Ping Pong is a much more overt and much more disturbing hub of coincidences. Everyone associated with the business is making semi-overt, semi-tongue-in-cheek, and semi-sarcastic inferences towards sex with minors. The artists that work for and with the business also generate nothing but cultish imagery of disembodiment, blood, beheadings, sex, and of course pizza.
Several pages were linked to support the details of the claim (an e-mail in which David Brock was described as “batshit crazy” by Clinton associate Neera Tanden was among them) and the post primarily focused on Alefantis and his loose ties to the Clinton campaign via a former romantic relationship with David Brock of Media Matters for America.
Users tracked down Alefantis’ purported Instagram account (since deleted or restricted), which they said hosted images of children, gay clubs, drugs, and generally “bizarre” or unsettling imagery:
James Alefantis’ instagram late 11/5/16. by morning of 11/7/16 it was set to private.
We recently found the instagram account of James Alefantis. The contents of it are indescribably bizarre and the contexts of the posts and comment chains are weird. Alefantis does not have any children nor do his closest associates, but the photos seem to be a near constant assortment of different children of a variety of ages, intermingled between posts about gay bars, clubs, photos of common rape drugs, and piles of foreign currency. After it being trawled through for 24 hours it has been set to private. A large set of archived copies can be seen here in the next section. Similarly the instagram and twitter accounts of Comet Ping Pong are being edited selectively. The accounts of the people favoriting and commenting on these posts are equally bizarre in both content, context, and demeanor.
However, the photographs that the Instagram account purportedly hosted were instead, apparently, taken from the pages of various people who “liked” the restaurant’s page on Facebook: 
In a statement, the District of Columbia Metropolitan Police Department said it was monitoring the situation and is “aware of general threats being made against this establishment.” The F.B.I. said it “does not confirm or deny the existence of investigations.”
Most troubling for Mr. Alefantis and staff has been the use of children’s images, pilfered from the restaurant’s social media pages and the personal accounts of friends who had “liked” Comet Ping Pong online. Those photos have been used across dozens of websites. Parents, who declined to talk publicly for fear of retribution, have hired lawyers to get the photos removed.
Some of the photographs were apparently taken from random web sites:
@HagmannPI Why did you lie? You showed a supposedly authentic picture, but it’s from a website. So was everything a lie?? pic.twitter.com/YwqoXWYGKr
— Marla Craig (@marla_mulder) November 5, 2016
Alefantis also said many of the photographs were of children of family and friends, not patrons of Comet Ping Pong:
“The most sickening part of this vicious attack has been the stealing of Instagram images, Facebook images of children, minors, aged 5, 7, and 8 years old that are then slapped across their chat boards as nothing but pawns,” Alefantis says. “Yes, it’s scary to be attacked, it’s dangerous for business, but it’s disgusting and filthy of these people to be posting photos on these websites. … Someone should be prosecuting these people.”
Alefantis says the photos have been lifted from his personal social media accounts, and those of his friends and employees—not from the restaurant. “Kids in the restaurant are completely safe, none of these people are going there, they’re cowards,” he says, emphasizing that this scandal only exists on the internet. Inside the restaurant it’s business as usual … While Alefantis says he can weather the storm, he’s concerned about others who may not have as much community backing as he does. “I personally worry for the individuals who are being attacked and smeared and slandered and maligned and for other independent businesses or restaurants who are less established than Comet.”
Scattered evidence from previously leaked Podesta communications was included, such as an e-mail about children orphaned after 2010’s catastrophic earthquake in Haiti (along with information about adoption agencies and trafficking), or another thread claiming Clinton campaign manager John Podesta and his brother Tony Podesta were purportedly in Portugal at the time Madeleine McCann disappeared.
Additional evidence was presented in collage format, visually “linking” unrelated Instagram screengrabs, a number of individuals supposedly involved, purported coded signaling for pedophiles (such as a butterfly or a “play, eat, drink” insignia which could be abbreviated “PED”), and assertions that underground tunnels linked adjacent business (which themselves also use pedophilia code in their materials):



Imagery widely believed to be code for pedophiles to signal one another was a common theme in the myriad Pizzagate theories.  Purported symbols such as butterflies and spirals were increasingly spotted in unrelated places, creating the impression that conspiracy was as vast as it was nebulous.
(As we have noted in the past, fear of “pedophile code” imagery is occasionally the basis for panic, but law enforcement officials believed that the symbols themselves are used among adults to signal preferences, not as labels for children, not as markers placing them in any danger.)
On 6 November 2016, Washington City Paper summarized the claims, noting that the rumors originated with long-circulating claims about Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein, and confirming Alefantis’ link to Brock:
Trump supporters on sites like Reddit and 4chan have long been looking for a stronger connection between Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein, a financial tycoon and sex offender whose plane Bill Clinton sometimes used. The Wikileaks release of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta’s hacked emails inspired a feverish, and mostly hapless, search for salacious scandal evidence, while PolitiFact calls the evidence for a Clinton sex network “ridiculously thin.”
Late this week, Trump supporters on 4chan and Reddit began to focus on “Pizzagate”— innocuous connections between Podesta and emails mentioning pizza that they claimed were far more sinister than they initially appeared.
Why, they wondered, did Podesta have a handkerchief with a “pizza-related” map on it? And why did Podesta get so many emails about eating pizza?
The answer to any reasonable person would be that Podesta eats pizza sometimes. Indeed, Alefantis says, “pizza’s always a big thing in politics.” … To the alt right, though, “pizza” became a suspected code word for illegal sex trafficking. … In one 2008 email released by Wikileaks, Alefantis thanked Podesta for attending a fundraiser at the restaurant but regretted not making him a pizza. That drew amateur theorists’ attention to the restaurant’s murals, which they declared “creepy,” and the sliding doors in front of the restaurant’s bathrooms, dubbed “hidden rooms.”
In the period between 6 November 2016 and 21 November 2016, social media users continued to examine purported links to the pizzeria. Not long after Comet Ping Pong became the center of myriad ambiguous child abuse theories, the business’ Yelp page was locked down by the site’s operators, along with the following note:
This business recently made waves in the news, which often means that people come to this page to post their views on the news … While we don’t take a stand one way or the other when it comes to these news events, we do work to remove both positive and negative posts
Sex trafficking is as old as history, but that sto... (show quote)

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Apr 23, 2017 12:30:27   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Do tell this to the lawyers who are defending the 400 or so in California and those in Illinois... and for good measure those caught in Nevada and New York. I am sure that they would like your support.




Human trafficking is real..

The stories in pizzagate are lies..

Is that hard for you to get your mind around?

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