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Jan 22, 2018 07:24:15   #
[quote=eagleye13]Obama's burial costs
Some may want to know;

When a president dies, the country pays for their burial. In the case of a president like JFK, who was a war hero and assassinated in the middle of a term, something extravagant is in order. His burial at Arlington with the memorial paid for by the people cost almost $4 million in today's money, adjusted for inflation. The Kennedy family paid for the casket, vault and the eternal flame.
Ronald Reagan, one of the most influential men in history, is buried in California at his Presidential Library, paid for by donations from the people and the Reagan family. In fact, other than Kennedy, which we can all agree was warranted, no president has ever cost the taxpayers more than $100K in today's money to bury.
The clause in the Presidential Contract enacted by congress in 1819 states that the president shall receive the burial service deemed fit for his stature and that the cost of the funeral and burial plot will be paid for by the people of a grateful nation. While every president who has died in modern history, except Reagan, took advantage of that perk of the presidency, none have gone so far that anyone would ever have noticed. Until now that is.
Barack Obama has just submitted his plans for burial in a plot that will house his entire family, citing the Kennedys, the Tafts and the Roosevelts as precedent, inside a monument he had designed to celebrate the nation's first black president. The monument, will cost the taxpayers roughly $120 million and will be listed as a national historical place with 24 hour protection from the 3rd US Infantry Regiment, just like the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.
The memorial would be built immediately upon approval and occupy the Northeast quadrant of the lawn near the Washington Monument with a view of the White House:
The monument itself would include quotes from his years as president along with a giant bronze statue and burial crypts for him and his family under a large arch:
You heard that right. Obama will be guarded around the clock in a monument among those of our founding fathers and greatest heroes, paid for by the taxpayer. It's not too late to call or contact your congressman and object.

According to Snopes this article is false. It came from America’s Last Line of Defense - a satirical publication.
Jan 15, 2018 15:01:42   #
Mom8052 wrote:
As I see it, I didn't raise the bar, you did. What do you expect? Changing Global Warming to Climate Change because the facts don't prove it. COLDEST YEAR this year and last!!!! When the American People get tried of the left saying the opposite of what they promise or start working with the duly elected President, then I'll raise the bar on positive responses!

I don't think you understood what I said. I was replying to Lone Wolf's post listing Trump's actions that have hurt the American people, not replying to your post. I used the term "raising the bar" to say that the conversation had been elevated to a higher, better level by posting facts instead of insults.

The earth is getting warmer, and this will have severe and terrible consequences. This is not a lie, and I think most people understand that it will not improve unless we act now. I think the Left does try to deliver on their promises, but Donald Trump frequently tells people what they want to hear with no intention of helping them. A few examples: better cheaper health care, lowering taxes on the middle class while making sure the wealthy pay their fair share, and reaching across the aisle to work with each other for the betterment of all the people.
Jan 15, 2018 12:20:18   #
Lonewolf wrote:
no not in a good wat Putin's way.
hears a list of what he's done so far

a part of being racist, sexist and a bully and a thug, here is how:

Withdrew from the Trans-Pacific Partnership. The trade deal would have established a trade partnership between the United States and countries on the Pacific Rim. HURTS ECONOMIC GROWTH, KILLS JOBS.

Revoked a rule that expanded the number of people who could earn overtime pay. HELPS BIG BUSINESS, HURTS WORKERS.

Reversal of a rule that would mandate that oil and gas companies report payments to foreign governments. The Securities and Exchange Commission will no longer receive this information. HELPS BIG OIL.

Ended limits on the ability of states to drug test those seeking unemployment benefits. OPIOD CRISIS BE DAMNED.

Revoked an executive order that mandated compliance by contractors with laws protecting women in the workplace. Prior to the 2014 order, a report found that companies with federal contracts worth millions of dollars had scores of violations of labor and civil rights laws. HELPS BIG BUSINESS, HURTS WORKERS.

Repeal of a rule allowing states to create retirement savings plans for private-sector workers. HURTS WORKERS.

Cancelled a rule mandating that financial advisers act in the best interests of their clients. HURTS SMALL INVESTORS.

Repeal of a bill that mandated that employers maintain records of workplace injuries. HURTS WORKERS, HELPS BIG BUSINESS.

Killed a rule mandating that government contractors disclose past violations of labor law. HURTS WORKERS, HELPS BIG BUSINESS.

The justice system

Rescinded an Obama effort to reduce mandatory sentences. Attorney General Jeff Sessions ordered that prosecutors seek the most stringent penalties possible in criminal cases. OUR JAILS ARE OVERCROWDED. ADDS TO GOVERNMENT DEFICIT.

Cancelled a phase-out of the use of private prisons. 

Reversed a ban on civil forfeiture. Law enforcement officials are now once again able to seize assets from suspects who haven’t been convicted of any crime. HURTS PRIVATE CITIZNES.

Reversed the government’s position on a voter ID law in Texas. Under the Obama administration, the Justice Department argued that the law had discriminatory intent. Under Sessions, Justice withdrew that complaint. On Wednesday, a federal court threw out the law. HELPS REPUBLICANS BY DENYING THE VOTE TO MINORITIES.

Reviewed Justice Department efforts to address problematic police departments. An effort to address concerns in the Baltimore Police Department was delayed. HURTS CITIZENS.

The environment

On Friday, Politico reported that some representatives of oil and gas companies are worried that Trump’s moving too quickly to reverse regulations on their industry. “[Y]ou don’t need to roll things back so far that it opens an opportunity for outsiders to criticize, or something bad happens,” one analyst said.


Blocked the Clean Power Plan. The plan implemented under Obama focused on reducing greenhouse gas emissions from power plants. HURTS OUR PLANET.

Ended a study on the health effects of mountaintop-removal mining. The process involves blasting away the tops of hills and mountains to get at coal seams under the surface. HURTS OUR WORKERS' SAFETY.

Rescinded a rule mandating that rising sea levels be considered when building public infrastructure in flood-prone areas. HURTS OUR PLANET.

Reversed an Obama ban on drilling for oil in the Arctic. HURTS OUR PLANET.

Reviewed the status of national monuments for possible reversal. In April, Trump signed an executive order ordering a review of monuments added in the past 20 years, opening up the possibility that some areas previously set aside would have that status revoked.

Withdrew a rule regulating fracking on public land. 

Rejected a proposed ban on the pesticide chlorpyrifos. The month after this decision, a group of farmworkers were sickened by exposure to the chemical. HELPS BIG BUSINESS, HURTS FARMERS.

Reversed a ban on plastic bottles at national parks. HURTS OUR PLANET.

Repealed a ban on lead bullets. The bullets were banned under Obama because the lead can poison wildlife. HURTS OUR PLANET.

Rescinded a limit on the number of sea animals that can be trapped or killed in fishing nets. CRUELTY TO ANIMALS.

Delayed and potentially rolled back automotive fuel efficiency standards. HELPS BIG AUTO, HURTS OUR PLANET.

Repealed the Waters of the United States rule. This rule expanded the definition of water bodies that were protected by the Environmental Protection Agency. HURTS OUR PLANET.
no not in a good wat Putin's way. br hears a list ... (show quote)

Yes, thank you for posting facts. I have a theory with the President. If he accuses a person of committing some action, he is almost surely guilty of that action. Other people are crooked, racist, sexual abusers, liars, etc. However, when Trump or one of his supporters hear facts that they do not like, they call it fake news. I often wonder if Trump people really believe Trump is the next savior, or they are actually in Russia trying to undermine the American political system. The earth is in real danger because of climate change, yet our elected officials are ignoring the obvious signs because their wealthy donors tell them what to do and say. Where is the concern they voiced for years about leaving a huge debt to our children? How about giving our future generations a world that may be uninhabitable because of global warming.

Unfortunately, some people rely on insults instead of having a civil conversation. But, you have raised the bar today on One Political Plaza.
Jan 15, 2018 08:21:46   #
fullspinzoo wrote:
Maybe we can change the law and have him in there for a 3rd term.

It will probably take two terms for Trump to destroy the United States. However, if he did serve a third term he could successfully destroy the world. He is kind of like an evil genius, without the genius part.
Apr 17, 2017 13:56:13   #
Agreed - I used to work in a nursing facility in New York and Medicaid and Medicare paid the submitted claims. However, insurance companies delayed and delayed for months until finally paying their claims. There was no fraud or overbilling, they simply did not want to pay for their insured customers until the quarterly profit and loss statement came in. To turn the health care industry over to insurance companies would be the final nail in the coffin of honest citizens
of this country who still believe in the empty promises of our elected leaders. Be aware, Medicare and Social Security are in the sights of government officials seeking to reduce the deficit, give tax breaks to the rich, and force the population to die because of greed. The next few years will be a true tragedy.
Mar 11, 2017 15:48:24   #
By firing Preet Bhrara, Trump has let loose his worst enemy - the truth. Preet has taken down Sheldon Silver and Dean Skelos in New York. Outside of New York, this means nothing, but this man will prove the dishonesty and criminal behavior of Our Glorious Leader.

President Trump will be soiling his adult size diapers in a week, or a month. This is big, people - you can deny or insult, but Trump is done.
Dec 7, 2016 06:11:39   #
I checked on Snopes:

Claim: Forty Marines rescued children from a Pentagon daycare facility on 9/11, then enclosed them in a protective corral of cribs.

This story is FALSE

There were daycares near the Pentagon, including one located in a building 30 yards from that facility, fortunately on the opposite side from where the airplane struck. Children from these facilities were evacuated by those running those establishments, with help from other sources arriving only well after the fact. There was no group of 40 burly Marines racing into a distressed daycare center to snatch up toddlers and cribs, then forming a defensive ring around the tykes; instead, in the absence of outside assistance, those in charge of the kids fended as best they could for those in their care.

A scouring of news stories from the days immediately following 9/11 through the next few months uncovered no news accounts about a cadre of Marines rescuing children from a daycare center near the Pentagon, or indeed of members of any other branch of service snatching up kids and cribs then making a protective corral of the cribs and standing guard over it. This is not a story that would have gone unreported, because even if the Marines in question had kept their peace about their actions that day, the kids, the daycare workers, and the parents of the kids certainly wouldn't have.
Nov 26, 2016 09:32:16   #
moldyoldy wrote:
Rich people have been hoarding all those extra profits, and storing it offshore.
Small business people are creating jobs.
Deregulation gets us poison food from china.
Fewer inspectors also helps to kill us.
Regulations were put in place for a reason.
We let the banks get away from regulations and it almost destroyed the country.

That is the truth the American people keep ignoring - thank you for your succinct post.
Nov 24, 2016 17:35:45   #
kenjay wrote:
I planned for the revolution and I plan to look you up punk. You won't need your retirement and I don't care about demise. And moron it is not entitlements if you paid in. I will have your IP address within the our the rest is academic asshole.

I think you just threatened my life for being sarcastic.
Nov 24, 2016 12:53:53   #
Everything since the election is leading to one planned event. Believe it or Not ( REVOLUTION )I am by no means a violent person But maybe it should happen, AND FINISH OF THE MINIONS OF FREE FEEDING COCKROACHES. Enough is enough.[/quote]

Everyone should be responsible for their own health care and retirement. I cannot wait until Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid, and all of the other entitlements are stopped dead in their tracks. I have saved for my retirement, and I don't give a damn about anyone else.
Nov 5, 2016 13:17:20   #
Good question for Chris Christie - I will call him right now from the ledge he is on.
Oct 30, 2016 17:07:33   #
You should look up how to spell shudder.

pftspd wrote:
TRUTH BE TOLD.. despite the sick humor in this. THIS is vile, this is disgusting, "sick", VERY, VERY "DARK", and I, for one, cannot find any humor in anything that is Clinton. Our nation is humiliated. We, the People, are humiliated all across the world. How the hell we overcome this is beyond me. I shutter think that we may have a President who is a true, bono fide, Clinical Sociopath/Psychotic in our White House. For ALL of you here, you really MUST read the definition of a Clinical Sociopath/Psychotic TO FULLY understand the seriousness of the nature of WHAT this woman truly IS. I entreat you all to do this, read.
TRUTH BE TOLD.. despite the sick humor in this. T... (show quote)
Oct 5, 2016 15:25:27   #
Sep 10, 2016 15:23:02   #
CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?! Yes, you are a traitor to the United States.
Aug 7, 2016 07:07:36   #
This story was shown to be false on Snopes.
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