Like I said, over the course of the last 10 years, realistic, fact based explanations for the jet impacts, the collapses, including WTC7, the fires, and even the explosions reported by Rodriquez have been explained.

Every time a tin foil hatter brings 9/11 back to the table, usually around the anniversary of the attacks,
we have to rinse and repeat the factual explanations. Been through this a hundred times, not going there again.

For all of you into 9/11 conspiracies, I highly recommend you read a Pulitzer Prize winning work of non-fiction titled:
The Looming Tower: Al-Qaeda and the Road to 9/11
By Lawrence Wright

A sweeping narrative history of the events leading to 9/11, a groundbreaking look at the people and ideas, the terrorist plans and the Western intelligence failures that culminated in the assault on America. Lawrence Wright's remarkable book is based on five years of research and hundreds of interviews that he conducted in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Sudan, England, France, Germany, Spain, and the United States.

The Looming Tower achieves an unprecedented level of intimacy and insight by telling the story through the interweaving lives of four men: the two leaders of al-Qaeda, Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri; the FBI's counterterrorism chief, John O'Neill; and the former head of Saudi intelligence, Prince Turki al-Faisal.

As these lives unfold, we see revealed: the crosscurrents of modern Islam that helped to radicalize Zawahiri and bin Laden . . . the birth of al-Qaeda and its unsteady development into an organization capable of the American embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania and the attack on the USS Cole . . . O'Neill's heroic efforts to track al-Qaeda before 9/11, and his tragic death in the World Trade towers . . . Prince Turki's t***sformation from bin Laden's ally to his enemy . . . the failures of the FBI, CIA, and NSA to share intelligence that might have prevented the 9/11 attacks.

The Looming Tower broadens and deepens our knowledge of these signal events by taking us behind the scenes. Here is Sayyid Qutb, founder of the modern Islamist movement, lonely and despairing as he meets Western culture up close in 1940s America; the privileged childhoods of bin Laden and Zawahiri; family life in the al-Qaeda compounds of Sudan and Afghanistan; O'Neill's high-wire act in balancing his all-consuming career with his equally entangling personal life--he was living with three women, each of them unaware of the others' existence--and the nitty-gritty of turf battles among U.S. intelligence agencies.

Brilliantly conceived and written, The Looming Tower draws all elements of the story into a galvanizing narrative that adds immeasurably to our understanding of how we arrived at September 11, 2001. The richness of its new information, and the depth of its perceptions, can help us deal more wisely and effectively with the continuing terrorist threat.

When you've finished reading, maybe then we'll have something to talk about.


I don't know how anyone can look at these pictures and assume the damage to the towers was not catastrophic.

"We"? Who's "we"?
You and the chattering monkeys in your skull?

I've been a member of OPP for 10 years and I cannot even guess at the number of times the 9/11 attacks have been brought up for discussion, usually by tin foil hatters pushing one of the many and varied conspiracy theories -
"inside job", "false f**g", "Bush did it", "No, Israel did it", "cruise missiles", "radio controlled aircraft", "holographic imagery", "controlled demolition", "nuclear bomb in the basement", take your pick.

And, I cannot even guess at how many times these conspiracy theories have been refuted in considerable detail using forensic science, physics, chemistry, metallurgy, and fire science. Clear, well-reasoned scientific analysis backed up by the work of university science and engineering departments and other independent studies.

Bottom line is Al Qaeda terrorists carried out the attacks and the buildings collapsed due to severe physical damage and uncontrolled fires. The massive US intelligence failure has been well documented, even common knowledge now. How U.S. Intelligence Misjudged the Growing Threat Behind 9/11
Among the missteps: lack of intel-sharing between agencies, tepid responses to earlier attacks and a failure to grasp the magnitude of the terrorists' ambitions.

Boy, there sure is.
That's one helluva word salad your spinning here.
After all that, you still don't understand that had Washington surrendered to Cornwallis,
our constitution would never have been written and we wouldn't have a
United States of America.

I don't know where you dig this s**t up, but you certainly are a glutton for conspiracies and their many theories.
Your credibility has always been in question, but this business about a flat earth with no gravity is a tie breaker.
That alone is enough to discredit every conspiracy you post here.

Yes, I have watched hundreds of videos of all 9 Apollo missions to the moon,
on 6 of which men landed, for a total of 12.

You have no freaking clue why motion on the moon appears to be in slow motion, do you?

Here's a hint: GRAVITY on the moon is only one sixth of what it is here on earth.

Youtube is not an astronaut, I need a name.
The radiation level in the Van Allen belt is really high, but not as much as the supporters of the lunar conspiracy draw. If you launch a person to fly directly in the belt, he will receive a dangerous dose of 1 sievert in a few days, and a lethal dose of 5 Sv for a couple of weeks of flight, the exact time depends on the particular orbit.

The flight paths of all Apollos, except for the 14th, circumvented the internal radiation belt and crossed only the external one in the thinnest areas and at the highest possible speeds. For astronauts flying to the moon, crossing the Van Allen belt took a matter of hours: about 3.5 hours when flying to the moon and about 2.5 hours on the way back, in addition, the Apollo had radiation protection, only 25 mm aluminum, and the module was additionally protected with steel, with a thickness of 18 to 69 mm.

Thus, it was possible to minimize the damage from radiation during the passage of the belt, the astronauts received the main dose during the flight outside the Earth’s magnetic field. Depending on the mission, the dose absorbed by the astronauts varied from 1.6 to 11.4 mSv, which is significantly less than the standard dose of 50 mSv per year established for people working with radiation and which is considered non-hazardous.

Astronauts, who gained 11.4 mSv during a flight to the Moon, after living for a year on Earth in ordinary conditions, would not even come close to 50 mSv. Therefore, overcoming the Van Allen belt is completely safe and even flying to the Moon and back does not cause much damage to the body in terms of radiation.

Why do you even bother posting your flat earth bulls**t here, I don't see anyone else falling for it.


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Apollo 16 Commander John Young at Descartes Highlands. From a flat footed stance, Young made a "Jump Salute", the bottoms of his boots are just over a meter above the surface.

On their return from the moon, Apollo 17 astronaut Harrison Schmidt took this photo of Earth.
As you can see, the earth - land, water, ice and atmosphere - is not flat.

This photo is the first to be dubbed The Big Blue Marble

What exactly do you mean "filming in slow motion"?
Which astronaut told us they never went to the moon?

As I noted a half dozen times, gravity is the weakest of the fundamental forces that govern the universe.
The moon is just over a quarter the size of the earth which means the moon's gravitational force is only about 16.6% of Earth's gravity which means a person would weigh six times less on the moon than they do on Earth.
IOW, a person weighing 200 pounds on earth would weigh only 33.3 pounds on the moon.

As the Apollo 17 astronauts were preparing to enter their lander for the last time and leave the moon,
astronaut/geologist Harrison Schmidt made the longest hammer throw in human history.
The geology hammer weighed 3 pounds on earth, on the moon it weighed 0.5 pounds.
Even restricted by his EVA suit, Schmidt threw the hammer 150 feet.

On the moon, Apollo 15 astronaut Dave Scott tested Galileo's theory that in a vacuum all objects regardless of mass fall at the same rate. He dropped a geology hammer and a falcon feather simultaneously and both hit the surface at the same time. Video: The Apollo 15 Hammer-Feather Drop
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Schmidt's hammer in flight. Taurus-Littrow Valley.

He acts like a freakin alien on another planet somewhere,
a flat one that doesn't move, spin, rotate, orbit or go anywhere,
it's just out there alone in the Twilight Zone.

What is dizzying is you, dood, you keep telling us NASA is lying to us, f**e moon landings, CGIs, and such.
Now you're gonna use NASA as your source to explain the precession in the earth's axis over the course of 25,000 years.

FYI: All cameras today, from the one in the smart phone to those HR cameras in the geometric mapping satellites,
are nothing more than computers with eyes. The eyes see something, feeds the data into the computer which generates an exact digital image of what the eyes are seeing.

So, you can rightfully say that images from space, or your smart phone, are CGI.
What these images are not is the work of a software artist using a sophisticated graphics processing program.

71% of the Earth's surface is water,
95% of which is in the oceans,
so there ya go,
The Big Blue Marble

Earth's axis is slanted 23.5 degrees from perpendicular to the ecliptic.
As the Earth rotates on its axis at about 1000mph at the equator,
the poles of the axis together inscribe a circle.
Every 6 to 14 years the axis moves smoothly in an arc of 20 to 60 inches.
It takes 25,772 years for the axis to complete one circle,
Completing one circle is what we call the "wobble", not the movement along the arc of the circle.

Wanna see some impeccable logic in action? Read this:

Return of the God Hypothesis: Three Scientific Discoveries That Reveal the Mind Behind the Universe
The New York Times bestselling author of Darwin’s Doubt, Stephen Meyer,presents groundbreaking scientific evidence of the existence of God, based on breakthroughs in physics, cosmology, and biology.

Beginning in the late 19th century, many intellectuals began to insist that scientific knowledge conflicts with traditional theistic belief—that science and belief in God are “at war.” Philosopher of science Stephen Meyer challenges this view by examining three scientific discoveries with decidedly theistic implications. Building on the case for the intelligent design of life that he developed in Signature in the Cell and Darwin’s Doubt, Meyer demonstrates how discoveries in cosmology and physics coupled with those in biology help to establish the identity of the designing intelligence behind life and the universe.

Meyer argues that theism—with its affirmation of a transcendent, intelligent and active creator—best explains the evidence we have concerning biological and cosmological origins. Previously Meyer refrained from attempting to answer questions about “who” might have designed life. Now he provides an evidence-based answer to perhaps the ultimate mystery of the universe. In so doing, he reveals a stunning conclusion: the data support not just the existence of an intelligent designer of some kind—but the existence of a personal God.

Johnstone wouldn't have a clue what I'm talking about and
my spinning wobbling ball is still hurtling through space.
It will continue to do so for another 5 billion or so years.
BTW: It takes 25,772 years for my spinning ball to wobble once.

Johnstone is a "Bogan Socialist" based in Victoria, Australia. Her blog focuses on "The End Of Illusions.”
The website features articles, poetry, videos, songs, and art primarily authored by Caitlin Johnstone.
She's big on conspiracy theories.

When the entire attack on Oct 7th was a Festival of Savagery, of murder, rape, torture and butchery,
when teenage Hamas k**lers celebrated the slaughter as if they were in an amusement park,
I'm wondering how the k*****g of one teenage Palestinian equates to "savagery so shocking it's sometimes hard to take in".

IDF soldiers retrieved the smart phone from the corpse of a Hamas teenager,
Before he was k**led, this kid called his father, effusively bragging about k*****g 10 Jews, including children.
His father called the blessings of Allah down upon him and the Israelis punched his ticket to paradise.

Know thy enemy, soldier, or pay the price for ignorance.

I have watched dozens of senate confirmation hearings of Biden nominees for federal benches.

As an example at the extreme end of incompetence, Creepy Joe nominated a woman to a federal bench.
During her confirmation hearing, a member of the SJC asked her what is covered in Article II of the Constitution.
She had no clue.
She was then asked about Article I.
Again, she had no clue.
The senator commented there was no point in asking her about Article III
other than to say Article III defines the position she was nominated to fill.

The senator then referred to her record as a court judge.
She had adjudicated 7 cases, all of which were either issues with unemployment compensation or problems with driver's licenses.

IOW, Screw the Constitution, just nominate party activists and apparatchiks in spite of their Constitutional qualifications.

If only the Hamas butchers were human.