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May 24, 2019 20:46:51   #
proud republican wrote:
Many???Whole 3 people...I dont call it many
Many???Whole 3 people...I dont call it many img s... (show quote)



http://time.com/5556331/mueller-investigation-indictments-guilty-pleas/

Since his appointment in May of 2017, Special Counsel Robert Mueller racked up a lengthy record of court wins, but none of them answered some of the central questions the public had about his investigation into potential collusion between President Donald Trump or his campaign and Russia.

Along with a team of experienced prosecutors and attorneys, the former FBI director has indicted, convicted or gotten guilty pleas from 34 people and three companies, including top advisers to President Trump, Russian spies and hackers with ties to the Kremlin. The charges range from interfering with the 2016 election and hacking emails to lying to investigators and tampering with witnesses.
 
May 24, 2019 20:30:26   #
bmac32 wrote:
So how long do think it should go on? How much money should be spent? They choose who investigated and he found no conclusion now that investigation is looking for crimes committed by others.




the republicans have shown us that 20 years and a 100 million dollars is well worth it.. no problem..


May 24, 2019 20:24:27   #
Carol Kelly wrote:
He should have had a stronger sentence in the first place. I’ll never forget Obama massaging his mama’s arm in the rose garden. Such a hero to Obama and he wasn’t ignorant of the facts, either.


carol, what are we to do with you?

You think President Obama should be blamed for this?

lindh was sentenced in 2002.... who was president at that time???

Who was the judge?

Lindh was released early for good behavior,, who sat on the board that made the decision?

just like a right winger,, anything at all, blame in on the liberals and the past President..

but do not bother with facts.. you would never know one anyway..



The man known as the “American Taliban” was just released early from federal prison in the US — a decision nearly as controversial as the man himself.

John Walker Lindh was sentenced to 20 years in prison in 2002 after pleading guilty to supporting the Taliban, the brutal Islamist group that harbored al-Qaeda in Afghanistan during the planning of the 9/11 attacks.

His capture alongside Taliban fighters in November 2001 quickly turned him into a national obsession. Photos of the 20-year-old Lindh at the time of his capture — face covered in filth, hair shaggy and matted, eyes wild — were ubiquitous in the press.
May 24, 2019 19:57:47   #
proud republican wrote:
My point is it happened during Obama-Clinton Admin,thus that makes them responsible..Im sure that if this tragedy was going to happen under Trump Admin you people including Media would of blamed Trump 100%...So what's good for the goose is good for the gander....


I had to update, in my rush for justice and fairness, I lost part of my post..

It will matter not to you, but I wished to point out the money and the time spent on an unworthy deed by the republican hate squad..

Yea, so bad we spent 22 months and some yet to be determined amount of money on your orange criminal..

we indicted, imprisoned and removed many of the orange gang.. recovered millions of dollars to offset the cost of our investigation..

but with the orange infestation still in office you clearly think you have won..

but at the cost of a great lose to America..
May 24, 2019 19:42:49   #
proud republican wrote:
Yes...Dont you want to know as an American why these brave people didnt get help from Admin when they asked for it???...I would think it would matter to US....



The matter of help was addressed long ago and several times.. the blame was laid on congress..

Why are you not concerned about the over 100 who died during the Bush administration from attacks on our overseas stations?



You are nuts,, the republicans spent 100 million taxpayer dollars and 2 decades trying to lie Lady Hillary into prison..

they got absolutely nothing, but they did keep her out of the white house and that let the orange stumble bum sit where not orange A** should ever go..

Look at it this way, for a 100 million dollars you got more then you should have, more then you ever will, to spend more time and taxpayer money after her will put the final nail in the once fine GOP party.

You may want to see all that money and time spent, but you can bet your butt that the powers of the GOP are more then glad to have her writing books..

they, the ones who tell you what to say and do will not touch Lady Hillary with a ten foot pole..

they count their undeserved blessing and will not touch the issue..

>>>>>
excerpt from the final report.


Truth is that the Republican’s in the House and the Senate have had two decades of defining Hillary Clinton as un trustworthy and un truthful. They have done it spending more taxpayers money on battling her than any other political figure in history.

The Republican’s have put a target on her back since she was first lady back in the 1990’s and they have over the years spent more $100 million taxpayer dollars on investigation’s aimed at taking Hillary Clinton down.

She hit their radar when she attempted to overhaul the heath care system and Republicans were not pleased with aggressive style that Clinton showed as a first lady. After all she wasn’t co-president to her husband Bill and her attempt to advance health care legislation were fought tooth and nail by the GOP lead Congress.

They then went after the first lady for her ties to Whitewater investment project in Arkansas that prompted the Republican to appoint a special prosecutor Ken Star to look into matter with the hope of finding some criminal offenses they could pin on the Clinton’s.



The GOP spent over $82 million tax payer dollars on four Clinton related scandals pushed by the Republicans lawmakers leading up to a much anticipated report from Star the Independent Council. Finally the findings of the Star report were released in September 2000, with the following conclusion. “This office determined that the evidence was insufficient to prove to a jury beyond a reasonable doubt that either President or Mrs. Clinton knowingly participated in any criminal conduct.”
House Benghazi committee files final report and shuts down
Mary Troyan, USA Today Published 2:07 p.m. ET Dec. 12, 2016 | Updated 6:07 p.m. ET Dec. 12, 2016



Gowdy on Monday called the report the “final, definitive accounting” of the Benghazi attacks.

“The committee is proud to have been able to tell the story of the ingenuity and bravery displayed by our nation’s heroes in Benghazi, who banded together to save one another, when no other help was ever on the way,” Gowdy said.

Democrats contended all along that the committee was a political effort to taint Clinton, an allegation that got some traction when House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., told Fox News that because of the committee, "her numbers are dropping."

The panel’s top Democrat, Rep. Elijah Cummings of Maryland, said Monday that the final report was a “desperate rehash.”

“Republicans voted on this partisan report five months ago, but delayed filing it and completing the committee until after the election,” Cummings said. “Republicans promised a process that was fair and bipartisan, but the American people got exactly the opposite.”
May 24, 2019 19:29:57   #
Auntie Lulu wrote:
I don't think when the common Brits voted for BREXIT they had any idea that there would be those in Parliament such as Teresa May who would do everything in her power to NOT OBEY THE WILL OF THE VOTERS. I am thrilled that we will be her backside walking away. Great Britain has enough problems what with the Muslim invasion, which was one reason the British people wanted their sovereignty back. Under the governance of the EU, British fishermen would not allowed to fish the water adjacent to their land--it had been allocated to Danish fishermen. If we had crap like that going on here in our land, I should imagine that we would want a different deal also. This is one reason it is so important to keep the UN out of our business.
I don't think when the common Brits voted for BREX... (show quote)


How do you get the UN involved? and Muslims??

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brexit_withdrawal_agreement

The withdrawal agreement, which runs to 599 pages, covers the following main areas:[5]

Money, particularly the division of assets and liabilities, and payment of any debt outstanding
Citizens rights, both of UK citizens in EU countries and vice-versa
Border arrangements and customs, particularly along the border between the UK and the Republic of Ireland
The law, and the mechanisms for resolving disputes, currently vested with the European Court of Justice
The agreement also sets up a transitional period, which lasts until 31 December 2020 and can be extended once by mutual consent. During the transitional period, the UK will remain a member of the European Economic Area, the single market, and the customs union, EU laws will continue to apply to the UK, and the UK will continue to pay into the EU budget. However, the UK will not be represented in the decision-making bodies of the EU. The transition period will give businesses time to adjust to the new situation and time for the British and EU governments to negotiate a new trade deal between the EU and UK.[6][7]

On the Irish border question, there is a Northern Ireland Protocol at the end of the agreement which sets a backstop which will come into force, in the case that there is no new agreement between the EU and UK before the end of the transition period. In that case, the UK will remain in a customs union with the EU. Neither party can unilaterally withdraw from this customs union. The goal of this backstop agreement is to avoid a "hard" Irish border, where customs checks are necessary.[8]

The governance will be through a Joint Committee with representatives of both the European Union and the British government. There will be a number of specialised committees reporting to the Joint Committee.

The withdrawal agreement also includes provisions for the UK to leave the Convention Defining the Statute of the European Schools, with the UK bound by the Convention and the accompanying regulations on Accredited European Schools until the end of the last academic year of the transition period, i.e. the end of the spring semester of 2020-2021.[9]
 
May 24, 2019 19:09:30   #
Zemirah wrote:
My topic was on modern science having been made possible by the mindset and worldview of believing Christian scientists.

Why are you specifically interested in the 13th to 17th century? How about the 1st to the 21st century?

monastery (n.) "place of residence occupied in common by persons seeking religious seclusion from the world,"

Jesus instructed His followers to let their "light" shine as an inspiration before men. One cannot do that from a monastery. It is a selfish pursuit. Nowhere throughout the Bible do God's people live in monasteries. They lived in families.

The traditional account of Christian monasticism begins with St Paul of Thebes retreating to a cave in the Egyptian desert in AD 250 to avoid the persecution initiated by Decius. St Paul himself is probably a mythical figure, but there may well have been Egyptian hermits at this time. At the other end of the north African coast the bishop of Carthage, St Cyprian, goes into hiding in the same year and for the same reason.

There are Christian hermits in Egypt by the early 4th century. The best known of them is St Anthony, whose Famous temptations take lurid and often sexual forms which later prove irresistible to generations of painters.

Early in the 4th century, perhaps in response to the new favour shown to Christianity by Emperor Constantine, Anthony organizes other hermits, living nearby in the desert, into a partly shared existence. For most of the week they maintain their solitary life. But on Sundays they come together for worship and a communal meal.

In this there is the beginning of a monastic community. One of the world's oldest monasteries, named after St Anthony and established soon after his death, still survives in the desert near the Red Sea - below the mountain cave in which the saint spent his last years.

http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/PlainTextHistories.asp?ParagraphID=ejo#ixzz5oshnymJm

None of that did anything to spread Christianity.

I know there are ancient Viking ruins on the East Coast in the U.S., and the red anchors of the ancient Chinese ships have been found in the waters off California. What is the point?

I believe you missed it.

The ancient and medieval worlds did not have conceptions resembling the modern understandings of "science" or of "religion",however, certain elements of modern ideas on the subject recur throughout history. The phrases "religion and science" and "science and religion" first emerged in literature in the 19th century. This coincided with the refining of "science" (from the studies of "natural philosophy") and of "religion" as distinct concepts in the preceding few centuries - partly due to professionalization of the sciences, the Protestant Reformation, colonization, and globalization.

The term "scientist" was first coined by the naturalist-theologian William Whewell in 1834 and it was applied to those who sought knowledge and understanding of nature.

The vast majority of the natives on the Caribbean islands, just as those in the U.S., died after exposure to another culture's bacteria and viruses because they had no immunity.

I know you have no interest in my topic, so, "never mind."

You furry friend suits you.

I too have a little buddy, a fat, frisky red fox squirrel who romps across my back deck railing almost every morning.
My topic was on modern science having been made po... (show quote)




Truly a nice companion on your Picture.. very nice..

My use of the time line I put in was very arbitrary and by no means meant to be accurate.. only that at the general time of the middle ages, the monasteries were the center of education..

Visits to caves... I can not resist,, do you consider Muhammad s visit to the cave to get the word of God from Jesus as part of these cave assemblies?

Interesting post.. I enjoyed it.. thanks... have a nice evening..


May 24, 2019 16:41:43   #
youngwilliam wrote:
Her beliefs are anti-American, anti-Semitic and you and kevvy are defending it. SAD. She has no discernment of ignorance, other than what pertains to the above topics. DISGUSTING.




The only ignorance shown on this post is that of those who insist the lady is unamerican.

she is well educated, hard working and followed the rules to be elected..

If you wish to remove her, feel free to move into her district and vote for whoever runs against her..

that is how our nation works.. she knows it, I know it, do you know it?


May 24, 2019 14:41:13   #
Jean Deaux wrote:
As Paul Harvey used to say, "Now for the rest of the story". Pretty hard to get a conviction on hillary when the prosecutors are die hard hillary sympathizers. Comey and Lynch, both devoted, dedicated hillary sympathizers, were heading the departments that were supposed to be working on her prosecution. We all know of their untarnished enthusiasm in nailing the wicked witch with her hundreds of violations (sarcasm).
Who has a need to see his tax returns? They were created before he took office and constitute nothing but another opportunity to waste time by investigatory busy bodies. Why would Trump be required to release an unredacted summary. Barr learned that the redactions were a legal necessity.

With Mueller saying that there was no collusion between Trump and the Russians, he answered the reason for his investigation. Anything in addition was extraneous, irrelevant and immaterial. The only reason the dimocrats are desperately hanging on to the last shred of hope for mischief is their irrational hatred of a man that beat their stooge and who is succeeding wildly in leading our nation onward and upward. MAGA
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Pretty far fetched Jean, when Comey a registered Republican, the investigating bodies were Republican, and tray Gowdy was the chief honcho..

to the casual observer even, it is clear that your orange misfit is upset and showing his insecurity and his lack of care for any and all but himself..

will he be pushed hard enough to do a little legislation??

he is deeply in need of something to brag about that is real..

It is once more clear that he is in great fear of what those people/paper may reveal about him..
If he was not so fear filled, people would not declare him guilty so quickly..

He is what he acts..


May 24, 2019 14:31:48   #
Jean Deaux wrote:
The only place obama was ever cheered was the peanut gallery



OOO contrar..... the only place that refused to extend kudos to President Obama was and is the right wing who now grovel for the orange cult leader..

All of you who cry about the money Obama had to spend must, at some level, know why it was so vital that he did so..

tax cuts, 2 wars, plan D, and the great recession.. these are the times that try mans souls and require government spending..

the orange stumble bum, In a time of solid economy and recovered trade/business cuts tax revenue, drives up the future cost which will be paid by the middle class, attacks decades old trade at a time of this recovery, use unfocused tariffs, which already have driven up the cost of appliances and auto..

I will add one little item..

Our fine leader President Obama had two sorties with tariffs.. one was bad.. tires etc did nothing good..

the second was a concentrated tariff on Chinese steel.. this put the Minnesota iron minors back to work, along with the other states..

the orange con man made several claims that his shotgun style tariffs were what did that and ran editorials to push the lie..

But, the Minnesota iron range did not believe him and in the 2018 election went very strong for the Dems, knowing full well that as normal, the Dems took the workload for the working man and middle class.


May 24, 2019 14:15:37   #
Zemirah wrote:
I believe in this day and age, Permafrost, that anyone over two can do a similar search in five seconds.

There is no "accomplishment" involved.

On what, exactly, do you base your belief that, and I quote "Now, everyone knows that for centuries the home of education was in monasteries built by roman Catholics.."

I certainly did not know that. No one I know "knows" that, nor do I believe it is either fact, or relative to my topic.

I am impressed with your personal knowledge of the explorer Columbus, credited with officially making the most important discovery recorded in the history of mankind, second only to the revelation that God, in human form, had chosen to dwell among us, and effect our salvation, for those who are willing to accept.

To declare Christopher Coumbus so totally devoid of any humane qualities or virtues is remarkable. If only, he could speak, one can only surmise that his opinion on your life's accomplishments might be less harsh.

Again, that's all quite interesting, but irrelevant to my topic.
I believe in this day and age, Permafrost, that an... (show quote)



maybe it is indeed irrelevant to you topic.. what ever that was..

If you feel that Monasteries and the church were not the home of education and the scientific research for the 13 to 17th centuries, where do you thing it took place?

At least one settlement of vikings and possably Chinese were in North America 3 hundred years before
Columbus sailed the ocean blue..

Columbus had word of mouth reports, people had found Eskimo bodies in the north Atlantic and a report that Columbus had a map..

Columbus also made slaves of the natives on the Caribbean island and this killed the overwhelming majority of these natives..

But I digress and you say i am off topic, so proceed with you post and my apologies for the diversion..


 
May 24, 2019 13:55:45   #
May 24, 2019 09:51:51   #
Zemirah wrote:
By Chuck Colson | October 10, 2016

Chuck Colson on Columbus and the rise of science.

"Thank heaven that Columbus was able to convince the world that the earth was round?" Except, Columbus didn’t have to convince anyone.

The liberal media are terrified of the truth, especially when it leads to uncomfortable questions about their own leftist worldview.

For well over a century and a half, secular intellectuals have promulgated the myth that when it came to understanding the natural world, medieval and earlier Christians were superstitious simpletons. Sit back and listen to Chuck Colson as he debunks that pernicious fairy tale:

To paraphrase the opening of a popular ESPN show, these four things everyone knows are true:

1) Before Columbus's first voyage, people thought the world was flat.
2)When Copernicus wrote that the Earth revolved around the Sun, his conclusions came out of nowhere. 3) the "scientific revolution" of the seventeenth century invented science as we know it.
4), false beliefs and impediments to science are Christianity's fault.

There's just one problem: All four statements are false.

As Rodney Stark writes in his new book, "For the Glory of God," "every educated person" of Columbus's time, especially Christian clergy, "knew the earth was round." More than 800 years before Columbus's voyage, Bede, the church historian, taught this, as did Hildegard of Bingen and Thomas Aquinas. The title of the most popular medieval text on astronomy was Sphere, not exactly what you would call a book that said the earth was flat.

" By his hand the north is stretched out in space, and the earth is hanging on nothing." Job 26:7

As for Copernicus's sudden flash of insight, Stark quotes the eminent historian L. Bernard Cohen, who called that idea "an invention of later historians." Copernicus "was taught the essential fundamentals leading to his model by his Scholastic professors"—that is, Christian scholars.

That model was "developed gradually by a succession of … Scholastic scientists over the previous two centuries." Building upon their work on orbital mechanics, Copernicus added the "implicit next step."

Thus, the idea that science was invented in the seventeenth century, "when a weakened Christianity could no longer prevent it," as it is said, is false. Long before the famed physicist Isaac Newton, clergy like John of Sacrobosco, the author of Sphere, were doing what can be only called science. The Scholastics — Christians — not the Enlightenment, invented modern science.

Three hundred years before Newton, a Scholastic cleric named Jean Buridan anticipated Newton's First Law of Motion, that a body in motion will stay in motion unless otherwise impeded. It was Buridan, not an Enlightenment luminary, who first proposed that the Earth turns on its axis.

In Stark's words, "Christian theology was necessary for the rise of science." Science only happened in areas whose worldview was shaped by Christianity, that is, Europe. Many civilizations had alchemy; only Europe developed chemistry. Likewise, astrology was practiced everywhere, but only in Europe did it become astronomy.

That's because Christianity depicted God as a "rational, responsive, dependable, and omnipotent being" who created a universe with a "rational, lawful, stable" structure. These beliefs uniquely led to "faith in the possibility of science."

So why the Columbus myth? Because, as Stark writes, "the claim of an inevitable and bitter warfare between religion and science has, for more than three centuries, been the primary polemical device used in the atheist attack on faith." Opponents of Christianity have used bogus accounts like the ones I've mentioned to not only discredit Christianity, but also position themselves as "liberators" of the human mind and spirit.

Well, it's up to us to set the record straight, and I think it's time to tell our neighbors that what everyone thinks they know about Christianity and science is just plain wrong.

"He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth; its dwellers are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them out like a tent to live in." (Isaiah 40:22)

Originally published by BreakPoint.
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A real accomplishment to find such an essay..

Let us read the post Slatts gave us..

Now, everyone knows that for centuries the home of education was in monasteries built by roman Catholics..

Other notes..

Columbus had a map,,

Columbus was the poorest excuse for a Christian you can find.. one of the cruelest and most self serving hustlers in world history..


May 24, 2019 09:17:22   #
BigMike wrote:
Who the hell cares?

I never heard of the dude until he bucked Trump. Maybe he needed someone to know he's alive.

Who is he to you anyway?




Who is he to me??

I never heard of the guy..

so he is nothing but one republican who sees trump as nothing but an orange stumble bum..

Good morning, coffee has been great this AM.. sun still hiding but may not rain today..
I truly like this photo.. yes, used it before, will again..

May 24, 2019 09:09:34   #
Hadenough wrote:
Permie

Obummer couldn’t run a COMPANY much less a country.
What’s silly is you dumbocrats giving obummer credit for the economy, if you call bailing failed companies out at taxpayers expense success, I have some land in Iran you can buy.
Big part of the recovery is due to President Trump removing obummer’s restrictions on businesses.
Yep obummer was applauded worldwide for trying to make the USA the whipping boy of the world! He did great losing our respect around the world.
Iran wouldn’t be the threat to peace and talking eliminating the USA and Israel if your boy didn’t kiss their ass and release billions of dollars.
Yep obummer was the great divider with all his anti law enforcement rhetoric, how many lives have been lost by his “that could have been my son” remark before he had all the facts!
Oh he was great, for the NWO.
What’s silly is all you sheeple following what the dems are trying to do to this country.
I bet you think ohmar and taileb or aoc and Beto would be great. Once again I have some swamp land I could sell you.
I can’t wait for obummer’s face on our currency, that would mean he is dead!

Tick Tock Tick Tock TDS boom
MAGA and Proud
God Bless the USA and President Trump
Permie br br Obummer couldn’t run a COMPANY much ... (show quote)



gosh, what a distorted view of events you and other trump supporters cultivate..

divided??? Yes, when the right wing found a black guy was elected to the white house, their hate knew no bounds.. constant obstruction, even when President Obama proposed the same bills they had originated, they refused to allow them on the floor..

what do you see as the response from your orange stumble bum now that his guy pal in NK has demanded an end to sanctions?

Oh, I forgot, my bad.... good morning have a wonderful day..

I can not believe you are still trying to credit the economy to the orange con man... the only thing he has done is gift himself and the very rich with ever more money.. which they use in buy backs to fill their own pockets even more..

Now the orange fool has allocated over 30 billion dollars to try and calm his base of farmers who are getting the royal screw from his unfocused tariffs... on top of his trillion dollar run up of our spending..






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