Mikeyavelli wrote:
Well Obama did it! Isn't sodomy a quality of a great modern president?
Where do you think the word came from? Think "Sodom and Gomorrah"!
amadjuster wrote:
Oswald was a Marine Expert marksman. This series of shots have been done before so your information ay not be correct.
Full metal jackets from a lower velocity 6.5 would not deform unless it hit a solid object.
This second shooter evidence must be double secret hidden because it hasn’t made it to publication. Please provide a link for that.
Did you watch the Zapruder tapes? There is seen the head of JFK going backwards then forwards . . . after the supposed magic shot that went through two peoples bones and came out like NEW!!! This shot to the head came from in front of JFK, NOT above and behind . . . which means there had to be more than one shooter!
....not just my opinion!!!
permafrost wrote:
So your position is that we must wait until real harm is done before we attempt anything?
Of all developing nations, only the United States has fallen back in the last two years..
as far as damage.. Intent when combined with allowing must be a concern of every one of us..
No sense at all to simply wait until the river are burning once more..
Sad to say, without looking at the chart.. the EPA has been decimated by trump and henchmen..
recall the work to preserve documents back in 2017?? gee, bet you do not..
And you think that the United State as the largest polluter on the planet can simply rest on the accomplishments made under President Obama and not worry about the foolish deed of the chair sitter at this time?
So as we are in a cooling cycle now, that is the sun not the earth, think how lucky we are, the earth would be a great deal hotter then the record heat we are having now..
and look for ward to more of the same, but hotter..
Conditions in 2017
According to the American Meteorological Society's State of the Climate in 2017, the year brought an end to the three-year streak of new record temperatures that were set each year from 2014–2016. Depending on the data set used, 2017 came in second or third warmest, after 2016 (warmest) and 2015 (second or third warmest). The near-record temperatures occurred in the absence of El Niño, which is usually a factor in extreme global warmth. For much of 2017, El Niño-Southern Oscillation (ENSO) conditions were neutral, and October 2017 brought the start of La Niña, which typically drops global temperatures. Despite this, 2017 readings were 0.38–0.48° Celsius (0.68–0.86° Fahrenheit) above the 1981–2010 average, depending on the dataset. It was the warmest non-El Niño year in the instrumental record.
Did you see all the information i included about guns with g****l w*****g data?
that is the subject of this Thread.. perhaps we should stick to it..
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Why do you disregard all the evidence that c*****e c****e IS NOT a consequence of human actions? Until you address ALL the evidence . . . pro and con . . . your opinion is just that . . . YOUR OPINION!!!
woodguru wrote:
And now lets deal with those who should be barred from owning guns, those with anger management issues, those with domestic violence issues, those with restraining orders, those with psychological issues, those with social media red f**gs, those with ties to d******c t*******t h**e group affiliations....
They can v**e, they just shouldn't have guns.
Let's not and say we did!
Reaper13 wrote:
I would be wasting my time. I did something stupid 30 years ago. Since then I have coach youth hockey, received an award from the mayor, went to school and obtained my national heavy equipment operator license. My wife and I make turkey meal for the homeless on thanksgiving. Numerous other acts of kindness. I still will not win. The 2nd does not say unless a felon. What ever law made against the 2nd is unconstitutional. There would need to an amendment to the 2nd stating said reasons for me not to get my rights back.
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First, can we agree that going to prison results in the lose of some of the constitutional rights of the individual?!? They take everything you have on you . . . your clothes, your watch, sometimes your glasses . . . even your name is replaced with a number! They tell you when and what you can eat . . . . when you can sleep and how long . . . if you can touch your visitor . . . so many rights we take for granted on the outside!
The guy who robbed a bank . . . NOT WITH ANY WEAPON AT ALL . . . is now a felon because robbing a bank is a federal offense! I was once charged with driving while revoked . . . . because I kept driving under a suspension and after being caught 5 times driving! This is classified as a felon . . . driving while revoked . . . and my bail was $100,000, and more than anybody in the holding tank, more than the guy who had beat up 3 guys in a bar . . . my "crime" didn't hurt anyone, yet my bail is 3 to 10 times more than anyone else in that holding tank simply because my crime was classified a felony!
I am making the point that NOT ALL felons deserve to be classified as a felon! That point needs to be addressed before any other decision can be made as to how we treat felons when they get out . . . as well as while they are in! The constitution declares that we CAN have our possessions taken . . . we CAN be held to answer for a capital crime . . . we CAN be deprived of life, liberty, and property . . . all to be done with due cause and binding justification! So, YES WE CAN lose some of our "rights" as most of us understand them today. My point is not all classified as felons should be classified as felons!
But, to address the issue of treating all felons the same . . . until there is some kind of way we differentiate the term in a kind of classification, they all will be treated the same . . . a felon is a felon until otherwise notified! So . . . does a murderer get the same rights revoked as a bank robber who never used a weapon . . . yes, and rightly so! Because, under current standards, a felon is a felon . . . and that's what we currently have to deal with! This "title" sticks with us for the rest of our lives . . . and the results of our actions do also!
If Charlie Manson could have been released . . . would it then be appropriate to restore his right to bear arms? Not just no . . . but HELL NO!!! But, should he be able to v**e . . . there is no question about that to me . . . yes he should be able to v**e!
jeff smith wrote:
the second amendment was written , so "WE THE PEOPLE COULD DEFEND OURSELVES AND /OR OUR COUNTRY FROM AN ENEMY FROM OUTSIE OF OUR BOARDERS OR FROM WITHIN OUR BOARDERS " . not you or this government has the right OR authority to deny the people of this great country the "RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS" . so many people want to "ban " the weapon of choice . if you had your way and banned the semi- automatic firearm . what would you ban next ? then after that? and then after that ? you would ban every firearm that people owned . then only police and criminals would own a firearm . how would you defend yourself from a criminal with a firearm even if it were only a 6 shooter ? with a pitchfork or a knife ? or would these be banned also ? these could also be used to k**l a person . why not ban the automobile ? hay there are more people k**led in wreaks than with a firearm . why not ban airplanes ? hundreds of people die when a plane goes down .
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Sounds like something I wrote earlier!
dtucker300 wrote:
Oh, you are plenty rude alright. Since you don't read every dumbarse comment posted then why are you so adamant about having people post comments? I'll leave as many i***tic comments as I like. You don't have to read them. You can continue being the f*****t liberal you deny being. Now go find your safe-space and crawl into it snowflake.
For the last time . . . . not a liberal ya dumbarse! THIS IS YOUR DAMN TOPIC! YOU LEAVE AN ARTICLE WITH NO COMMENT ON YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THE TOPIC! IS IT REALLY OUT OF THE QUESTION TO ASK YOU WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ON THE TOPIC AS THE ORIGINATOR OF THE TOPIC!!!
If you still think it is, sorry for the inconvenience! But most reasonable thinking people would wonder what you, as the originator of the topic, might think about the topic you placed at OPP!!! DUMBARSE!!!
permafrost wrote:
I agree with you. I is crucial that we get the president out our white house and we prevent the SC from becoming one more oppressive unit used by the anti-american orange forces..
The goals and direction set down by the founding fathers should not be replace by a small group of our country who have only themselves as benefiting from the economic gains of misplaced policy by the same very rich minority..
"...I agree with you. It is crucial that we get the president out our white house and we prevent the SC from becoming one more oppressive unit used by the anti-American orange forces..."
Wow . . . either I didn't get my point across or you just didn't understand what I said! IT IS NOT CRUCIAL to get Trump out of the White House!!!
What is crucial is that Ruth Bader Ginsberg get back to work in person or that she steps down from the Supreme Court . . . we need justices that are capable of doing their jobs in person and not through their subordinates. And it is just that action that makes the democrats shake in their boots . . . the fear that the Supreme Court becomes 6 to 3 or 5 to 4 leaning towards conservative thinking majority! But that is exactly what this country needs to get back on the correct course and rule of law instead of making laws in the SCOTUS!!! Laws are not made in the SCOTUS, they are made in Congress and either enforced or determined unconstitutional by the SCOTUS!!!
"...The goals and direction set down by the founding fathers should not be replace by a small group of our country who have only themselves as benefiting from the economic gains of misplaced policy by the same very rich minority..."
Agreed! That is exactly the position of the democrat platform . . . they bend over backwards for the minority groups and disregard the majority of Americas desires!!! A left leaning SCOTUS is what has been in America for years and the condition of our country can be traced back to 1963 when roe-v-wade was passed and prayer was taken out of schools!!! Once America was the envy of the world . . . and that is what Trump is all about . . . making America great again!!!
Look at the emergency on the southern border . . . AND IT IS AN EMERGENCY . . . diseases unknown are reaching America from these people coming into America illegally! They don't go before a doctor to test them within the border entry system . . . and they are bringing unknown sicknesses to all of us!!!
WAKE THE PUCK UP . . . BEFORE IT'S TO LATE . . . IT MAY ALREADY BE ! ! !
permafrost wrote:
You are doing that selective reading again.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/second_amendmentthe 2nd does not allow any sort of arms a person wishes.. machine guns need special permit, Tanks; try and buy one..
The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution reads: "A well regulated M*****a, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
In 1939 the U.S. Supreme Court considered the matter in United States v. Miller. 307 U.S. 174. The Court adopted a collective rights approach in this case, determining that Congress could regulate a sawed-off shotgun that had moved in interstate commerce under the National Firearms Act of 1934 because the evidence did not suggest that the shotgun "has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated milita . . . ." The Court then explained that the Framers included the Second Amendment to ensure the effectiveness of the military.
Nearly all laws are subject to interpretation;and the 2nd nearly leads the pack..
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So, are you saying everything the Supreme Court does or says is correct . . . like Roe-v-Wade . . . and they never make any mistakes? Why do you think it is sooooo important for the democrats to win the White House?!? Their main reason is so they can pick the next SCOTUS nomination . . . although this point may be argued against!
So forget about clambering on about the Supreme Court and stretch your mind around what the founding fathers said and around the reality of the events of the time . . . that will serve us all better in grasping why and what for the second amendment was even placed in the Constitution!
woodguru wrote:
Which is my point, it is not a day or celebration that has anything to do with Trump, and people should not have to make that choice. Trump does not need to make a huge event about him. For once he can let events be what they are. Not to mention it turns a well integrated day where people from both sides can let be about independence day versus a trump rally.
Of all I left in that comment, you pick one slice of it . . . and take it out of context in the process! I wasn't agreeing with you AT ALL! I was saying simply . . . if YOU don't want to hear him speak, THEN DON'T GO! There are plenty of people that do!!!
It may not be a day about Donald Trump . . . but it is a day about which is perfectly appropriate for the President to speak on! Regardless of who is the President, the President is perhaps the most appropriate person to speak on the 4th of July! Perhaps it would be wise to wait and see what he has to say . . . INSTEAD OF MAKING ALL YOUR ACCUSATIONS THAT COULD TURN OUT TO BE NOTHING!!!
woodguru wrote:
More contacts and friends than you'll know...we have no muslim types in this redneck county, what we do have is a substantial presence of skinheads and s*********t types. As discussed with my sheriff and ATF friends, there is a high level computer and electronics theft ring in this county, and funds derived from an organized presence gets funneled to interesting organized elements.
No cop or sheriff doesn't know what it feels like to have his nuts tighten up when stopping a heavily tattooed skinhead type, often they will sit and wait for backup. These people can be dangerous, and have attitudes that they will not go back to jail. These are bad asses and as a cop if you aren't afraid of them you are stupid and have no survival sk**ls.
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Skinheads and s*********t types . . . I think I kinda know what you're talking about, not having any real contact with them. I live a bigger city . . . the largest in my state. I've seem movies about large areas with small populations . . . that have lots of areas where certain groups can find seclusion away from the many.
I am aware of the Ruby Ridge and Waco incidents! The term 'Patriot' has been slandered over the many years . . . but, as a true patriot, I would never fall under these extremist type groups! Skinheads and s*********t types may present themselves as standing up for what's right and true . . . but they are deluded into believing they are in the right.
It would be interesting to know if you are or were employed in the law enforcement part of society. It would give more credence to your comments in this.
woodguru wrote:
Of course he bills it as making it the biggest 4th of July event in history, that would be impossible to do, it already is the biggest extravaganza in the country. It has always striven to have one of the biggest and most elaborate fireworks displays in the country.
Presidents have understood that people come together regardless of their political views to celebrate the independence of our country. Nixon tried to rebrand the Washington events and make them a make America great type theme, it resulted in a r**t. Since that presidents have kept a low profile.
Trump does not have the capability of speaking at a huge event without making it about his greatness, his accomplishments, his best people, his greatest brain in history. The crowd that goes to the biggest and best fireworks display and celebration in the country is half people who do not care about Trump or what he says, and that is putting it mildly. They would highly object to having to hear his BS and rhetoric.
People bring their families, and they don't need to be exposed to Trump whipping up the biggest crowd he will ever have an opportunity to speak to, a far bigger crowd than he had at his inauguration.
Trump needs to do what intelligent presidents who understand what this is have done, lay low and let people make it about our independence, not Trump.
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"...Trump Hijacking The 4th Of July Celebration Is An Ill Conceived Train Wreck...It's Not A Political Event..."
woodguru......why do you have such an obvious problem with Trump? This topic . . . glaringly depicts a biased slant towards an event that YOU HAVE NO IDEA OF WHAT TRUMP IS GOING TO DO!!!
"...Trump does not have the capability of speaking at a huge event without making it about his greatness, his accomplishments, his best people, his greatest brain in history..."
Yet he has just done that in the celebration of D-Day!!!
"...The crowd that goes to the biggest and best fireworks display and celebration in the country is half people who do not care about Trump or what he says, and that is putting it mildly. They would highly object to having to hear his BS and rhetoric..."
Don't want to hear him speak . . . THEN DON'T GO!!!
"...People bring their families, and they don't need to be exposed to Trump whipping up the biggest crowd he will ever have an opportunity to speak to, a far bigger crowd than he had at his inauguration..."
And that is JUST YOUR OPINION!!!
"...Trump needs to do what intelligent presidents who understand what this is have done, lay low and let people make it about our independence, not Trump..."
Maybe . . . just maybe, that's exactly his plan . . . to make it about the American Declaration of Independence and what it means today!!! But, apparently, your biased position doesn't allow you to even consider that possibility . . . does it!?!
woodguru wrote:
You are aware that sheriff's departments in rural areas typically fear hard right wing s*********t nut jobs far more than they do the muslim variety terrorists?
They are far more likely to encounter the home grown type in a routine traffic stop and have it go south.
Really?!? Do you know people in the sheriff's departments in rural areas? Are you a sheriff in these rural areas? What credentials of justification do you have to make such a comment?