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Jan 10, 2019 21:21:56   #
tbutkovich wrote:
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Why do you have walls in your house? Just Curious!


I'm not peg but we have walls to hold up the roof and when we have company we have privacy to go to the bathroom.
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Jan 10, 2019 21:18:53   #
peter11937 wrote:
They want our wealth, taking it by other than by a force of arms does not make it a non issue.


I didn't mean it that way. China was fighting the Mongols, Israel is fighting Palestine, we aren't at war with Mexico.
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Jan 10, 2019 21:15:31   #
PLT Sarge wrote:
Yes, some of them are military invaders. MS 13. Our southern border is the same, these people are illegal. I have no problem with a person coming to this country and going through the legal process. I had a Hispanic guy in my platoon, took twenty-two years for him to receive his citizenship. First thing he did was join the Army. When I asked him why, he said "I felt like I should give something back". These are the people we need. Not those that come demanding entry in order to drain our Country, to live off the taxpayers. Side note, he was an outstanding soldier. I helped him and when I retired he had made the rank of PLT Sarge.
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There are good and bad in all cultures. I agree they should come in legally, Ellis Island should open back up for immigrants to come through like in the old days. There are tempers flaring on both sides of the fence. I wonder if everyone just step away for a while and calm down.
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Jan 10, 2019 21:07:47   #
tbutkovich wrote:
Prisons need to get rid of their walls. Construction companies need to open the gates and tear down their fences exposing their materials to all citizens and non-citizens, leave your keys in your cars, your wallet on the back porch, your purse in your shopping cart, and all the animals in the zoo should be released.

According to Chuckie and Rancid, who say to the Americans as they leave their gated mansions: How can you be in favor of the wall? It’s downright immoral!


It's this which makes you sound silly. Maybe you're blowing off steam, I know how frustrating it can be when our politicians can't agree. Both sides need to chill and try to compromise. Trump is as bad as Chuck and Nancy.
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Jan 10, 2019 19:55:12   #
Sicilianthing wrote:
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Noted and that’s because we are seriously divided so now we keep splintering, fragmenting it seems until all of this ends up in Open Range.

First comes Plan B regardless of who’s in office or not

2nd comes Plan C to enforce Plan B above... and that’s when life as you know will cease to exist as before,

Pray that Plan D does not have to happen.


I agree totally. I don't know how this happened, all the division. I try never to attack, my son and daughter-in-law v**ed for Trump, there are things about him they don't like but they have no regrets v****g for him. I'm hoping to learn and maybe teach from this forum.
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Jan 10, 2019 19:50:12   #
no propaganda please wrote:
Welcome to the chaos Klee. I don't like Hillary or Bernie either, nor do I respect them, and I believe their politics will destroy America. I also don't like Trump, but he is what we need at this point in time. However, I would never want him as a friend, but a friend is not necessary in a President. As I understand it Stalin was a kind and generous man toward his friends, and very likeable, even though he engineered the murder of over 10 million Soviet citizens. Humans are so complicated that putting any of us in a single category is foolish and unproductive. Well, I train service dogs, and run obedience classes and have learned that neither the dogs nor their owners can be easily categorized.

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Welcome to the chaos Klee. I don't like Hillary o... (show quote)

We shall always agree about Bernie and Hillary. I don't respect them either and Hillary would not have made a good leader. I v**ed Jill then the dems accuse me of putting Trump in the WH bc I didn't v**e Hillary. I get s**k of that. In my opinion Trump will be to old in 2020. I've also been accused of being ageism. So many isms, I can't keep up. Hahahaha I enjoy good stimulating debates so right or left I'm looking forward for the friendship.
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Jan 10, 2019 19:23:42   #
Sicilianthing wrote:
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Welcome and Good Luck

Klee !

Many come and go because they can’t handle it or they dont stay pugged in at least once a day cause if you don’t you’ll get lost as the Topics keep flowing in and the Posts stack up from people commenting on the issues.

You gotta be tough not a pansy
You can learn a great deal more here than almost any other site any of us have visited.

Remember this, more than half of everything you’ve ever learned in your life is a LIE !
This will help you understand the constant battle here between the informed and the misled
Between the awake and asleep
I hope and pray this brings you closer to the ‘Awakening’ so many talk about.

Peace out and keep buying ammo.
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Thanks. I think I can handle myself, Hahahaha like I said, I'm a tough old bird, been around the block a few times. I'm a democrat but in center and lean right. I dislike and like both sides. I don't like Bernie, I don't want socialism and I didn't like Hillary. So! But I also don't like tRump. I guess I don't like anyone. Lololo we shall see.
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Jan 10, 2019 19:08:10   #
fullspinzoo wrote:
Where would we be as a country without that "all important" study? So, the real issue at hand on the "wall" is not the 1/10th of 1% cost of the budget, but that the Dems don't want to give the president a "WIN", period.....on anything. That's more important than the fact a wall might cut the problem of drugs and all the other things mentioned by 80%. The Dems could care less.


May I gently say what dems are you talking about? I care but I'm not sure a wall will fix it. If there were drones that could track the immigrants before they got to the wall don't you think that might work? Other than a wall what do you think would work?
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Jan 10, 2019 18:40:48   #
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Klee wrote:
I personally would need to research the statistics compared to the crimes committed by American citizens. Remember too the school shootings, the church, the Las Vegas shooters were all American citizens. I don't deny the i******s commit crimes but compared to what? There's no evidence they're bringing diseases into the country.

What would you prove by the comparison. That it is okay that i******s are here?
Compared to how many crimes that would be commited if they weren’t here.
We have plenty of crimes commited by citizens. Do we need more?
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No that's not what I said. I'll be the first to say we need immigration reform. In fact( my fellow democrats won't like this but oh well) I think we need to take care of our own first. The homeless in America is at a all time high, let's take care of them before we let anymore immigrants in the country.
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Jan 10, 2019 18:35:25   #
nwtk2007 wrote:
It doesn't matter how they compare to others. If they werren't here, their crimes would not occur in the states. Period.


Ok I'm generalizing here, this isn't fact. Let's say out of the population American citizens commit 22% of crimes, immigrants commit 2%. My reasoning is that most crimes are commited by citizens. I do understand that people are wary of the immigrants but let's get facts on both sides. Just my opinion.
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Jan 10, 2019 17:25:35   #
nwtk2007 wrote:
According to DHS status indicators, over 276,000 criminal aliens have been booked into local Texas jails between June 1, 2011 and December 31, 2018, of which over 186,000 were classified as i*****l a***ns by DHS.

Between June 1, 2011 and December 31, 2018, these 186,000 i*****l a***ns were charged with more than 292,000 criminal offenses which included arrests for 539 homicide charges; 32,443 assault charges; 5,695 burglary charges; 36,840 drug charges; 395 kidnapping charges; 15,859 theft charges; 23,487 obstructing police charges; 1,650 robbery charges; 3,428 sexual assault charges; 2,152 sexual offense charges; and 2,949 weapon charges. DPS criminal history records reflect those criminal charges have thus far resulted in over 120,000 convictions including 238 homicide convictions; 13,559 assault convictions; 3,138 burglary convictions; 17,806 drug convictions; 173 kidnapping convictions; 7,064 theft convictions; 11,264 obstructing police convictions; 1,011 robbery convictions; 1,689 sexual assault convictions; 1,148 sexual offense convictions; and 1,280 weapon convictions.

http://www.dps.texas.gov/administration/crime_records/pages/txcriminalalienstatistics.htm

This is just Texas. One state.
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I personally would need to research the statistics compared to the crimes committed by American citizens. Remember too the school shootings, the church, the Las Vegas shooters were all American citizens. I don't deny the i******s commit crimes but compared to what? There's no evidence they're bringing diseases into the country.
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Jan 10, 2019 17:16:11   #
peter11937 wrote:
Great wall of China worked for1000 years, Hadrian's wall worked and the Israeli wall works. Ours at the Mexican border works now, more wll would work too. Not perfectly, but much better than nothing.


I'm pretty sure those walls were built for invaders wanting to take over the countries. They were military invaders. Our southern border is not the same.
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Jan 10, 2019 17:09:50   #
Thanks everyone. I'm really hopeful we can respect each others opinions. I'm a tough old bird, I'm not offended easily ...
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Jan 10, 2019 14:24:01   #
I've been reading this forum off and on for a few months. I'm on twitter mostly. I finally had to break down and join, I couldn't resist putting my 2 cents worth opinion to use. I'll give it my best shot. 😄😄
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