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Oct 2, 2019 14:41:13   #
I found this article interesting. Let me know what you think!

Should America Subarm its Citizens?

By Alan KorwinAlan Korwin

There’s a point between fully armed and disarmed that is subarmed. Being subarmed is dangerous. Officials would never stand for it themselves. It’s the point where you don’t have a very good gun, or certainly not the type you’d prefer, or not the type your police prefer for their own safety, and not the right ammo, or certainly not enough of it. It isn’t the caliber you want, and the magazine is too small. You’re subarmed.

It seems there are people at work in the government and the euphemistic gun-control movement who have figured out if they can’t disarm the public -- because the public will not stand for it and put up intense opposition -- they can subarm the public (that’s you) a little at a time. If you’re subarmed, and they’re fully armed, that’s pretty much victory for them and a shift in control.

Because it happens by bits, the big picture is obscured. Little by little the power shifts from the public to the authorities. We used to have parity with government, and this kept government in check, made America the liberty capital on Earth. We the people were equal with our hired hands. Both sides were in a state of stasis, equilibrium. They had matchlocks, we had matchlocks.

They had flintlocks, we had flintlocks. They got cap and ball, we all had it. We grew up together, we were partners in this, developed the field together. Self-contained cartridges, rifled barrels, bolt action, revolvers, semi-auto, improvements to everything, optics, full auto... the story starts to rag out right there.


Two Gun Laws: Tectonic Shift in American Freedom

In 1968 our employees in government decided it was time for us to fill out paperwork for any gun purchased from any manufacturer. It’s been that way ever since, despite the enormous trash piles generated by “news” media to the contrary. It’s no big deal -- maybe -- but every gun made and sold legally to an American since then comes with government paperwork.

Twenty-two years later, in 1986, the scales of e******y tipped over. The Gun Control Act basically said members of the state could have machine guns but the peasants (that’s us) could not -- only one-shot guns for us. Matching firepower was no longer for the masses -- it was for the hired help only. Two centuries of Gun E******y between government and the public was over. Now that’s a big deal.

Oh, the few full autos in public hands at the time could remain, but this was subarming on a grand scale, an order of magnitude, it made the two sides totally unequal. The miniscule number of now collectible machine guns people owned could be cherished, lost to wear-and-tear and jealously safeguarded -- thanks to five-figure price tags instantly springing upon a closed finite market.


Say Goodbye to Officer Friendly

The rapid decline in freedom everyone has been noticing was catalyzed. The rise of the police state became more intense. SWAT raids (multiple battle-equipped specialists with machine guns and overwhelming power) have gone from 3,000 per year in 1980 to as many as 80,000 per year now, this despite the fact that there has been a consistent drop in both violent and property crimes every year for the past 25 years! Today, there are less than half as many violent and property crimes committed as there were in 1993. Yet, the Andy Griffith Show officer is solidly in the past, and Officer Friendly is nearly extinct.

We weren’t a police state then and we’re not one now, we’ve just started looking more like one than anyone would like -- and toe the line, pal. Not to worry, our morals are still intact. Or are they.

You’re overwhelmed when a dynamic entry team of eight masked, body-armored men storm through your door with flash-bang grenades at two in the morning, like the state does these days. You’ve been subarmed to the point of being gunless when they have MP-5 machine guns and you have the civilian single-pull-of-the-trigger AR-15 you’re so proud to own. It's the gun you insist is OK because it’s the one-shot model, not the machine gun it looks like, which ignorant gun h**ers fear it really is. And they want to confiscate that too.

The seven-round magazine New York got saddled with is a subarmament joke and the people responsible should be brought up on charges for infringement and violation of oath of office. They swore to uphold the Second Amendment, not to find workarounds. Small magazines endanger the innocent when peril lurks. Ask police if they would stand for that.


Of Course Ammunition Is Dangerous

Meanwhile, BATFE bureaucrats are deciding some ammunition is more dangerous than other types, so it should be banned. How utterly preposterous! What needs to be banned is the BATFE. Ammunition cannot be banned based on the fact that it is dangerous! And a government agency cannot exercise power that Congress has no legitimate delegated authority to give it.

Everyone knows that ammunition is dangerous -- because that’s its purpose! Not just dangerous, deadly dangerous. It is supposed to be. If it’s not dangerous, it’s flawed. What BATFE is really seeking is to have some ammo removed because it might be used against them, making them bulletproof -- but they won’t ban it for themselves, and it could be used against you. Judging ammo -- which is beyond the delegated power an agency can have because it infringes on our rights -- is like judging which words are too dangerous to say. BATFE doesn’t want you to think about the logical angle:

Using any type of ammunition at all in any unjustifiably dangerous way is already grossly illegal many times over at every level and can carry the death penalty. Murder is illegal. Attempted murder is illegal. Planning a murder is illegal.

Using any kind of gun and any kind of ammo for any of that is criminal at the state and federal level with no wiggle room. That’s enough for this rogue agency or any other. Banning ammo is an infringement ploy.

If authorities can justify subarming the public based on ammo type, the Second Amendment will have been eviscerated, and this is intolerable. All subarmament efforts should be spotted, called out for what they are, and summarily halted. There are no excuses, no saturation “news” stories about crazed maniacs that justify taking action against the public. The responsible parties should be reprimanded, discharged from or v**ed out of office and publicly ostracized for acting against the interests of the United States. The jig is up.
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Sep 19, 2019 04:51:51   #
maureenthannon wrote:
You're right, the Democrats, who claim to e "tolerant", are the most intolerant group out there. They think that every one should be tolerant of all their policies, but anyone that doesn't agree with them about anything is an " ist", they have a name for each. Fine, but what I really don't get is, how is it not r****t to judge a person for being white, or not sexist to judge a person for being male, or not wrong to judge a person for their sexual orientatoin if their heterosexual? I'm too narrow minded to see how prejudice and discrimination isn't wrong if it's directed at those who aren't minority status. Either discrimination is wrong r it's not, and I think it IS,no matter who the target is.
You're right, the Democrats, who claim to e "... (show quote)


You're stereotyping yourself. Democrats aren't the most intolerant group there is but, they are getting there. The most intolerant groups are progressives, SJWs, socialists, c*******ts, and the mainstream media. Liberals are about the only good Democrats left! Go liberals!
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Aug 30, 2019 00:18:13   #
Divine t***h wrote:
With all due respect, I could never comprehend some Jewish people, or Zionst Ashken**i Jews.or Jewish Homosexual males (Ronald Myers, et al).

They're stalked me since my younger years, with a sexual, demonic, Satanic interest, using ignorant females, of all ethnicities, respectfully.

As their homosexual recruiters, they orchestrate crimes to imprisonment the sexual target of interest, to impose homosexuality on the individual.

Violation individuals, human, civil and Constitutional rights, with inpunty, deny justice, and then expect the individual to accept it, with no effective respond.

Theses atrocious, egergoius violation's and acts of barbarism denotes not the behavior and mind set of God chosen, people, but of Satan chosen people.

When t***h is stated, with cystal clear evidences, or constructive criticism about Jews is stated there is two responses; Anti-Semitic or Holocaust dential.

There are four Holocausts, the one in Germany, the one coming, the "African American" s***ery Holocaust and 9/11.

You are the only one that posted a comment, to my 9/11 T***H. You offered no rebuttal or challenge, nor have you stated that I am a liar.

Your ignorant comment Post to 9/11 and the subject,
tells me that you feel guilty or can identify with the t***h that I boldly articulated on 9/11.

Omar, Tlaib's shocking display of Isrealiphobi is the subject post issue, not the Holocaust, and or whether or not the Holocaust happened isn't related to the subject or my 9/11 t***hful statements.

There is ample evidence that the Holocaust happened, and overwhelming evidences that Jews contributed to the Holocaust.

This is revealed in the history books, nor is it taught in the schools, college or University...but it's out there in various writings.

The great human, civil rights, T***h activist, "black" Americans soldier and liberator icon Malcolm x, once said; if you want to keep a secret from "black" folks put it in a book.

I revealed and discovered what's is beyond the books, and conduct research beyond the norm, and presented what MSM, and those who are control can't reveal.

I am a strong and firm believer in the words of Christ, the original Christ, not the one printed before the world, with European pigmentation, blonde hair and blue eyes.

The real Christ said "we shall know the T***H, and it shall set us free", from lies...the order of the day and respond (deception).

Alcohol Anonymous (AA) midnight group, Caucasian females, homosexuals boys and the immigration population played an vital part in the releasing of the T***H of Isreali involvement in the attacks of 9/11.

I can't sit back and allow defamation, and false claims against Islam and responsibility of another evil to be placed at our faith door.

Some of the so-called Muslims indicated in the attacks, were Isreali Mossad agents, and one was connected to the Anti-Defamation league {ADL).

What I revealed in my defense of T***H, and support for and toward the courageous U.S. Congresswomen, was just the tip of the iceberg on 9/11, and Omar bold public statement; "some people did something".

I just completed her statement, and identified the people who did something, so what do the Holocaust have to do with the two matters, 9/11, and Omar and Tiaib.
With all due respect, I could never comprehend som... (show quote)


If you mean the Jews contributed 6 million bodies to the Holocaust then, yeah, I guess they did. I'm pretty sure that contribution wasn't voluntary though. As far, as Omar and Tlaib are concerned, I don't consider what they did courageous at all. They're Israeliphobic, and that's overwhelmingly obvious!
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Aug 30, 2019 00:09:27   #
debeda wrote:
I'm so very tired of this. It's totally exhausting to be inundated with BS all the time. I thought I was done with that when I got divorced


lol, I agree
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Aug 30, 2019 00:05:46   #
permafrost wrote:
trump has not properly divested..

His foundation was used to purchase portraits of himself or a statue and never done a thing for charity to the world.


Where do you get your info? This is entirely untrue!

From Wikipedia: In June 2016, in response to criticism, Trump asserted publicly that he had given approximately $102 million to charitable causes from 2009 through 2015[44] and released a 93-page list of the beneficiaries of the money.[45] Subsequent reporting by the Post and other news organizations found that many of the donations Trump claimed as having made personally over these five years were made by the Trump Foundation, which by 2009, no longer held any money donated by Trump.

- So, from 2009-2016, the Trump Foundation donated $102 million to charitable causes. Your other statement about proper divestment is ignorant, at best, disingenuous, at worst. Trump tried to divest himself from the Trump foundation but was prevented from doing so by the New York Attorney General who happens to be a Democrat.
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Aug 29, 2019 23:52:17   #
permafrost wrote:
Wrong, he is getting the fulol $400,000...

he claims he will give it away at the end of the year. A pleadge like the one about the VA..

remember to remind him when the time comes..


Will Politifact change your mind?

Trump-O-Meter
Take no salary
"If I'm elected president, I'm accepting no salary."

Updates
Trump donates 2019 salary to USDA, surgeon general
By Sophie Austin on Monday, August 19th, 2019 at 3:29 p.m.

President Donald Trump continues to maintain his campaign promise to donate his $400,000 annual White House salary with U.S. government agencies.

In August, a White House spokesman announced that Trump donated $100,000, his second-quarter salary, to the U.S. Surgeon General's office.

"I donate 100% of my President's salary, $400,000, back to our Country, and feel very good about it!" Trump tweeted Aug. 16.

His first-quarter salary in 2019 went to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

Trump donated his third quarter salary for 2018 to the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism. Trump's older brother Fred Jr. died after struggling from alcoholism in 1981.

The president donated his 2018 fourth quarter salary to the Department of Homeland Security and has donated to various federal entities during his time in office, including the National Park Service, the Department of Education and the Veterans Administration.

This pledge remains Promise Kept.
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Aug 29, 2019 23:49:48   #
permafrost wrote:
trump ran on nothing but h**e and lies..


Hatred of what? Which lies? I'm not saying I disagree with you though, if you're referring to promises he hasn't fulfilled or broken, that's every single president we've had for the past 50 years. What you're saying is simply too vague for me to agree or disagree with you. For all I know, you're saying Trump ran on nothing but hatred of evil and Democratic lies. You have to be more specific
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Aug 29, 2019 23:39:40   #
I found this interesting especially considering the amount of times I've fact checked a statement with this site and found it skewed against Republican statements to an almost ridiculous degree while entirely ridiculous Democratic statements get as favorable a rating as they can possibly give.

Politifact Vs. Facts (And Rick Perry)
by Leon H. Wolf

Over the last few years, a number of (allegedly) non-partisan fact checking organizations have come out that purport to provide a neutral analysis of the claims of politicians. I’m at a loss as to what function these organizations are even supposed to provide – at least over and above what you could find for yourself through competent use of Google. In reality, of course, they mostly provide an excuse for marginally talented l*****t hacks to criticize Republicans. None of these organizations fits that bill more than Politifact.

Today we have a pretty good example of the problem inherent in all these websites. In a speech he gave in June 2015, Rick Perry touted his “border surge” wherein he deployed the Texas National Guard to aid border control efforts on the border.

Now listen, everyone with a brain – even the Donald – understands that i*****l i*********n is a complex issue and that the solution to it will inevitably involve a complex and multifaceted approach. That being said, Rick Perry is not a college professor and he does not have several hours to give a dissertation defense as to the various possible effects of his “border surge” and the possible confounding factors in assessing the efficacy thereof. He is a politician and he has your attention for a few seconds at a time for each issue.

So in the course of giving this speech, he noted that one piece of evidence that supports his claim that the border surge worked is that border apprehensions dropped by 74% during the course of the surge.

Enter Politifact to evaluate this claim. Now, you might think that Politifact’s job in this sort of scenario would be to determine whether border apprehensions did, in fact, drop by 74% during the course of the border surge. And lo, they did exactly that! And guess what they found, Perry’s claim was 100% correct! Surely, a “True” rating is around the corner for Governor Perry, right?

Wrong. Politifact instead scored a statement that they admitted to be factually true as “mostly false.”

How did they reach this bizarre conclusion? Well, they basically interviewed people who offered their opinions that other factors might have been completely or partially responsible for the (admittedly factual!) 74% reduction in border apprehensions, including seasonal fluctuations, economic factors, actions taken by the Mexican government, etc. They also add, in news that is completely irrelevant to the claim actually made by Perry that they were supposed to be evaluating, that some people consider other metrics to be better indicators of border security than border apprehensions.

Look, wh**ever. I’m not an expert on immigration policy. I expect that probably there are a lot of factors that go into the rise and fall of border apprehensions, and for all I know there are lots of better ways to measure border security overall. However, none of that has a damn thing to do with what Politifact ostensibly exists for – which is to evaluate whether what Rick Perry said is true or not. Arguing about the causes for the fact in question or the policy significance of those causes is not the purview of alleged fact checkers, but rather of partisan pundits.

If Rick Perry says that border apprehensions dropped by 74% during a given time frame and the facts reveal that they did drop by 74%, then his statement is true. It does not become “mostly false” because he didn’t natter on during a stump speech about how that statistic didn’t control for other possible confounding factors or because there are other statistics that would have been better metrics for evaluating the policy he put forth. Memo to Politifact: a fact doesn’t become a falsehood simply because you prefer other facts.

Intuitively, what Rick Perry is setting forth makes sense. It stands to reason that a bunch of additional people watching the border would reduce the incidence of illegal border crossings by some amount, unless you believe that all i*****l i*******ts are somehow invisible to border patrol agents. Definitely that’s not the only possible solution to any multifaceted approach and no one (including Rick Perry) is suggesting that it is the end all be all of controlling the border, but the statistic he cited was, beyond caveat, factually true and at least probative (if not dispositive) of the success of his efforts.

The fact that Politifact can’t admit this is evidence that, really, they mainly have a problem with the facts – and Rick Perry.
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Aug 28, 2019 12:28:25   #
Nickolai wrote:
It's not a matter of worship its a matter of a steady hand compared to a bull that carries his own china shop around


She won the Democrat nomination by c***ting Bernie Sanders! Democrats didn't trust her, and rightly so!
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Aug 28, 2019 12:23:59   #
Nickolai wrote:
Your analysis of the MSM is standard right wing myth, I had lost faith with the MSM when the US attacked invaded and occupied Iraq when they appeared to become lap dogs for the Bucheney administration The public was not allowed to see anything negative. No blood guts or gore, mangled bodies, body bags, f**g draped caskets, military funerals, US Marines kicking down doors and spraying the inhabitants with machine gun fire. Only heroic deeds by our boys. The media had always filed the roll of watch dogs but now they had become lap dogs. More recently they see to have reverted to their traditional of watch dog and I'm great full, but conservatives h**e it they want a media that leans right . If network news report news with out right wing bias well---that makes them left wing BULL S**T!!!
Your analysis of the MSM is standard right wing my... (show quote)


Nikolai, you're part of the reason people think the MSM is so liberally biased because, you fail to include Fox News as part of the MSM. Fox is the second most watched News in the US. You're exactly right that their news in 2004 was shoddy! You're problem is assuming that because, their news fits with your beliefs better, they're more honest. They aren't! They're worse than they've ever been! I can show you f**e news after f**e news from both sides! It's d********g! Both sides of the MSM are so agenda driven these days, they look like i***ts at best and liars at worst. Their research appears to have either been contracted out to 2nd graders or it's nonexistent! You're being duped! ABC appears to be more accurate than others in the MSM but, the rest are crap!
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Aug 28, 2019 12:00:33   #
Dummy Boy wrote:
There isn't any way to truly tell why America (those that v**ed), for Trump.

I think it is because he attracted assholes, liars and i***ts, and there is nothing like v****g for someone who thinks like yourself.


Way to go, Dummy boy! You're a wonderful example of everything wrong with both parties! The opposing people are simply deplorables who can't have any issues with your candidate! They can't think for themselves and, there, obviously, can't have been anything they were unhappy about! Instead of addressing issues because, there aren't any issues ever, you can just brand them with stereotypes, and pretend you don't have a single neuron in that head of yours to think any deeper!
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Aug 28, 2019 11:47:51   #
PeterS wrote:
If America h**es the mainstream media why do they keep watching it?


Because, many Americans find it easier for the MSM to tell them what and how they should think and feel as opposed to deciding for themselves. It's really sad!
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Aug 28, 2019 11:41:33   #
Unintended Consequences wrote:
No one can stand the mainstream media? Whether you are looking at Breitbart or the New York Times, you need to evaluate what you are seeing. Is this one man's opinion or is it about an actual happening with pictures and other proofs. We all need to look in several places to see if they agree. It's lazy to call something "f**e News" if we have not done a little homework. It's too bad if we are so divided that we won't even look at what the other side has to say.


I completely agree with you! By the way, Fox News is just as much Mainstream Media as CNN. Neither can be trusted I know this because of the massive amounts of f**e news they both put out. I know it's f**e news because, I've researched several of their "stories" and found huge problems with their reporting.
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Aug 28, 2019 11:33:48   #
Divine t***h wrote:
The richness of T***H, is Christ said we shall know the T***h, and it will set us FREE: Zionst Ashken**i Jews, respectfully, not Anti-Semitic, T***H.

Terror is long-term Z*****t strategy for world domination, Isreal's policy of convert "aggression" has been reborn as false f**g terror, and all Westerners are being put in the position of "persecuted" Jews by way of DECEPTION WE MAKE WAR--MOSSAD-CREDO.

The 19 so-called Muslims, was actually 19 Isreali, and the former Mayor's of New York City, Michael R Bloomberg, made the same bogus claim, and was challenged and defeated, with clear convincing evidences.

The 9/11 event advanced the NEOCON PRVAC agenda, with its explicitly stated need for.."a catastrophic and catalyzing event--like Pearl Harbor.

In order to mobilize US public opinion for already planned wars (World War three), the effects of which would be to destroy Isreal's enemies.

CONTROL OF WORLD TRADE CENTER COMPLEX:

One of the first operational steps in pr********n for the 9/11 attacks would have been to secure control of the WTC complex.

This is crucial because without complete control, the setting of explosives to bring down the Towers would be next to impossible without serious risk of discovery.

FOUR KEY ZIONST NETWORK ASSETS:

Larry Silverstein-A Jewish (in name only) American businessman from New York, Silverstein obtained a 99 year lease on the entire World Trade Center (WTC) COMPLEX on July 24, 2001.

The Towers were in fact close to worthless, being filled with asbostos, yet Silverstein "felt a compelling urge to own them" and took out specific insurance against ACTS OF TERRORISM.

Silverstein had breakfast in "windows on the world" restaurant (located in the North Towers 107th floor) every morning. But broke this routine on the morning of 11 Sepetember 2001.

Silverstein's two children who also worked in the WTC were also absent from work that day. Larry Silverstein was paid $4.55 billion insurance money as a result of the WTC complex.

He also sued the airlines and airport security, seeking $12.3 billion in damages, thought his ultimate payout after 13-years legal struggle was just $95.2 million.

Haaretz reported that he was such good friends with Benjamin Netanyahu that he spoke with him on the telephone every Sunday.

FRANK LOWRY, a Czechoslovakia born Jew, was the owner of Westfield America, one of the biggest shopping mall conglomerates in the world.

Lowry leased the shopping concourse area called the mall at the World Trade Center made up of approximately 427, 000 square feet of retail floor space.

Frank Lowry was a member of the Golani Brigade, and fought in the Isreali war of Independence. Before this he was a member of Hagganah.

He spends three months of the year at his home in Isreal and has been described by the Sydney morning Herald as a self-made man with a strong interest in the Holocaust and Isreal politics.

He funded and launched the Isreali institute for National Strategy and policy, which will operate within the framework of Tel Aviv University in Isreal.

LEWIS EISENBERG, Eisenberg was the head of the Port Authority (PA) of New York and authorized the lease t***sfer to Silverstein and Lewis Eisenberg was a large contributors to the Bush-Cheney P**********l campaign, as well as a partner in Goldman Sachs.

EISENBERG has been a member of the planning Board of the United Jewish Appeal/United Jewish Federation pro-isreali government pressure group in the U.S.

RONALD LAUDER--billionaire Estee Lauder cosmetics magnet. He was the chairman of New York Governor George (6) Edward (6) Patiki's (6)=666 the Mark of the Beast (count the letters in his name), Commission on privatization.

He (Ronald Lauder) is the key individual who lobbied for privatization of the WTC, but he was also instrumental in the successful privatization of the former Steward Air Force Base.

Oldly, the flight 175 and 11converged directly over this airport.

WORLD TRADE CENTER SECURITY:

The second crucial aspect of control was that of security for the WTC complex. This was required to provide unquestioned access of the buildings for the sole purposes of rigging explosives in the period prior to the attacks.

After the 1993 WTC bombing the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey gave control of the security at the WTC to Kroll, Inc, in a $2.5 million upgrade contract.

The owners of Kroll at the time were Jules Kroll and his son Jeremy, the managing director of Kroll at the time with Jerome Hauer, who ran former Mayor's Rudy Giuliani's office of emergency Management (OEM) from 1996 to 2000.

He is the key individual that pushed for this office to be placed in Silverstein's WTC building 7. WTC building 7 is the focus point in the most recent litigation, against the FBI, et.al.

The upshot was that a compliant George Bush, Jr., was propelled into office in time for 9/11. Another key point in the matter, and negated by the authors of Looming Towers, is former special agent of the FBI, John O'Neill.

John O'Neil who had previously been tasked with investigating Bin Laden, was hired as head of security at the World Trade Center complex by Jerome Hauer, O'Neil was k**led on his first day of work--9/11.

O'NEILL had quite his job at the FBI after his investigation into the U.S.S. Cole attacks in Yemen, had been impaired and sabotaged by the U.S. Ambassador to Yemen, Zionst Ashken**i Jew, Barbara Bodine.

The ship was shot by Isreali cruise missiles to support public opinion against the Arabs (Al-Queda), as well as to demonize the Democratic who were not taking the threat of terrorism seriously.

Why? Maybe because they are the real architects of terrorism, and false f**g operations, and not Islam or Muslims. They terrorized and tortured this writer, so I know them VERY WELL, their evil, and deceptive practices 👌
The richness of T***H, is Christ said we shall kno... (show quote)


And the holocaust never happened either, right?
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Aug 28, 2019 11:31:47   #
Blade_Runner wrote:
The t***h about the attacks on 9/11 is irrefutable.

19 Muslims--1 Egyptian, 1 Lebonese, 2 UAE Arabs, and 15 Saudis were completely disillusioned by the secular rule of their national governments, especially the Saudis who were thoroughly disgusted with the lavish lifestyle and extravagant debauchery of the Saudi royals. They abandoned their national loyalties and imposed self-exile to follow a loud voice for the return of "Pure Islam".

There were many more disillusioned young Muslim men in the middle east who felt the same and answered Osama bin Laden's call. Many went to Afghanistan to join the fight against the Soviets. After the Soviets withdrew from A-stan beginning in May 1988, these young fighters were without a purpose, without a country, they could not return to their homes, they were lost. That same year, in Peshawar, Pakistan, bin Laden founded Al Qaeda. And, many of the young Muslims suddenly found a home and a purpose. They swore their loyalty to bin Laden and their allegiance to Al Qaeda.

Sheik Osama was crystal clear on his primary objective--to strike America (the Great Satan) whenever and wherever they could, ultimately in the homeland. The young Muslims needed little convincing, they were ready, willing and able, and so began Al Qaeda's attacks on Americans and American interests around the world, culminating in the seminal event on September 11. 2001.

In 1998, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, a militant Pakistani Islamist, approached bin Laden with a proposal for a "planes operation". (Originally, the plan involved the hijacking and in flight bombing of a dozen US bound international flights, but that plan was far too ambitious in terms of logistics, timing, finances and men to carry it out. so KSM revised the plan into what actually was executed.)

That same year or in early 1999, bin Laden gave KSM the green light and authorized him to carry it out. With OBL's blessings and money, KSM recruited and trained selected young men for the operation, he planned the operation and set up the network of cells and couriers, he organized the financial arrangements and chose the men who would carry out the attacks. (Incidentally, the total cost of the attacks from start to finish was around $500,000.)

20 were chosen and trained for the attacks, one of them, Zacarias Moussaou, was arrested in Minnesota for immigration violations a month before the attacks. The remaining 19 Al Qaeda terrorists carried out the attacks.

The Looming Tower: Al Qaeda and the Road to 9/11 by Lawrence Wright.

A SWEEPING NARRATIVE HISTORY of the events leading to 9/11, a groundbreaking look at the people and ideas, the terrorist plans and the Western intelligence failures that culminated in the assault on America. Lawrence Wright's remarkable book is based on five years of research and hundreds of interviews that he conducted in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Sudan, England, France, Germany, Spain, and the United States. The Looming Tower achieves an unprecedented level of intimacy and insight by telling the story through the interweaving lives of four men: the two leaders of al-Qaeda, Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri; the FBI's counterterrorism chief, John O'Neill; and the former head of Saudi intelligence, Prince Turki al-Faisal.

As these lives unfold, we see revealed: the cross-currents of modern Islam that helped to radicalize Zawahiri and bin Laden . . . the birth of al-Qaeda and its unsteady development into an organization capable of the American embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania and the attack on the USS Cole . . O'Neill's heroic efforts to track al-Qaeda before 9/11, and his tragic death in the World Trade towers . . . Prince Turki's t***sformation from bin Laden's ally to his enemy . . . the failures of the FBI, CIA, and NSA to share intelligence that might have prevented the 9/11 attacks.

The Looming Tower broadens and deepens our knowledge of these signal events by taking us behind the scenes. Here is Sayyid Qutb, founder of the modern Islamist movement, lonely and despairing as he meets Western culture up close in 1940s America; the privileged childhoods of bin Laden and Zawahiri; family life in the al-Qaeda compounds of Sudan and Afghanistan; O'Neill's high-wire act in balancing his all-consuming career with his equally entangling personal life—he was living with three women, each of them unaware of the others' existence—and the nitty-gritty of turf battles among U.S. intelligence agencies.

Brilliantly conceived and written, The Looming Tower draws all elements of the story into a galvanizing narrative that adds immeasurably to our understanding of how we arrived at September ii, 2001. The richness of its new information, and the depth of its perceptions, can help us deal more wisely and effectively with the continuing terrorist threat.
The t***h about the attacks on 9/11 is irrefutable... (show quote)


Thankyou for clarifying and correcting me on that point!
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