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May 2, 2020 10:16:23   #
newbear wrote:
Canuckus Deploracus,

No, it wasn't warning enough, it was too late, and too nebulous to sound a warning. The flights from Wunan were designed to infect Italy and Spain in the first place, then invade the unsuspecting North America.

Be a mensch and discus the facts with those who really care...


Yep said with authority from one who has a definite belief on what is most important and how it should be ran.
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May 2, 2020 09:51:59   #
nwtk2007 wrote:
There were no communications openly telling us about the v***s, their findings, out comes, nothing! Nothing to verify their suspicions, or their actions to stem the tide of it's contagion. There was no sharing among doctors regarding it's pathology or etiology. Nothing. They hid it. They censored those who revealed it. They shared nothing with us. No warning, nothing.

All we had were guesses and very weak intel. They could have confirmed everything and we could have had total support for stopping all incoming from outside the country. So could the rest of the world.

How do you think Italy feels having been told nothing. Spain? All of the EU?? And now they try to make up stories to "save face" as you call it. Well the get none this time. They are now black listed.
There were no communications openly telling us abo... (show quote)


According to the link provided if the adminstration had reacted as early as the 30th of December when there were indications that something was happening , even if the worst was covered up. Ensuring the country could have a response. Yes he did stop flights coming in from China. Flights were still arriving carrying people who were possibly infected. You are asked questions on international flights. Was the question asked if the person had been near anywhere that had reported a case? You are asking for the impossible , in a perfect world what you are asking would be possible, this isn't a perfect world. The reason a leader has people to help is so he/she can make decsions on what they are told. The old saying garbage in garbage out , if told garbage then the decsions are going to be garbage. The response to the p******c should been on his mind since January the 13 of 2017: when an Obama-Trump t***sition team ran an exercise for p******c preparedness.

https://www.axios.com/timeline-the-early-days-of-chinas-c****av***s-outbreak-and-cover-up-ee65211a-afb6-4641-97b8-353718a5faab.html

https://www.justsecurity.org/69650/timeline-of-the-c****av***s-p******c-and-u-s-response/
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Apr 24, 2020 23:09:12   #
JohnCorrespondent wrote:
Thanks. My interpretation of this latimes article is:

(1) Many (probably most, I'd now guess it's more than 80%) mass shootings are done for personal, not political, reasons. That was also said in at least one of the sources I had listed. This is something I didn't know when I had started. When I started I thought that a larger proportion of mass shootings in the last few years were more a kind of Trump-supporter-related phenomenon. So maybe it's a much smaller proportion of them.

(2) It does (very likely) sometimes happen for political reasons on both sides of the political spectrum (not saying it's evenly divided though); one of the examples did have at least one emphatic indicator that a socialist did a mass shooting and claimed some socialism-related reason (though, _even_then_, it may not have been the main underlying reason for that mass shooting).

(3) Some mass shootings appear inspired by, or in agreement with, Trump's public rhetoric; though that still may not be the main reasons for those mass shootings.

And:

(4) Among prominently visible politicians (e.g., Sanders, Warren, Trump), Trump displays rhetoric the more likely (probably by far the most likely) to inspire wrongful violence.

One could make the (rather weak) argument that rhetoric should never be blamed for anything, or that spiteful or degrading words (such as some of Trump's) should never be blamed for anything.

One could also make the similarly weak argument that there is _no_ cause-and-effect relationship anywhere.
Thanks. My interpretation of this latimes article... (show quote)


OR basically someone gets bent out of shape and wants to k**l someone but in the end dosen't want to take responsibility for their actions and brings up wh**ever is available.
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Apr 22, 2020 08:02:37   #
deb999 wrote:
Hi everyone I'm glad to be here. How many Never Trumpers do we have? Why do you classify yourself as a Never Trumper? Is it his ignorance, his malignant narcissism, his total disdain for the law or his disregard for the Constitution? Perhaps you have different reasons, if so please share them. I'm always looking for fresh kindling to fuel the burning fire of hatred I feel for this awful dangerous excuse for a human being!


Welcome to a location that people can make a statement by printng their beliefs and have them ether argued about or ignored. Everthing here is supported by what ever side you fall on and its line of thought, good info and bad exist. The most important is the discussion can get very argumentative and sometimes lead to name calling. But there are a few good conversations started and held here. According to your sign on and if you have been active you know this.
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Apr 13, 2020 08:31:17   #
American Vet wrote:
In an appearance on Rudy Giuliani’s radio show, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said planning for the C****-** c****av***s was made more difficult by the fact that computer models of infection and death rates have proved completely unreliable, as initial apocalyptic predictions have been repeatedly scaled back.

Cuomo said, “…All those statisticians have been 100 percent wrong at this point. And we’ve been following the models because that was the only blueprint, but they haven’t turned out to be correct. Sort of like the old days when we tried to predict a storm by listening to the weather forecasts.”


That’s a very apt analogy. I suspect that once this is over, a lot of people will be looking at the c****av***s computer models that were off by 300% or more and ask if this is the same technology we’re relying on to dismantle the world economy to prevent a predicted rise in temperature of a few degrees 100 years from now.

https://www.mikehuckabee.com/latest-news?id=46DAE6EF-84F8-4AFF-A2F6-2BFB2EB8D87A&s=7TSO
In an appearance on Rudy Giuliani’s radio show, Ne... (show quote)


Worst case scenario is a better response ,then no or low response. Alot like Scotty on Star Trek take an hour , get it done in twenty minutes. As for computer scenarios you only get results with what is entered. Garbage in garbage out. The planet is warming up whether human activity is causing it or it is due to normal changes. The thing is what human activity is causing can be controlled. Denying the changes aren't going to help. As for power corrupting that can be a possibilty with everyone.
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Apr 11, 2020 17:43:27   #
billy a wrote:
I agree that any group of decision-makers needs to be held accountable. I also believe in the good sense of a chain of command.
That said, I find it hard to believe that one man
can be responsible for the decisions being made today in our country. The President doesn't seem to be the kind of guy to take that office only to be a whipping-boy. His ego is too big, combined with his age, to stand for all of this abuse. It's puzzling to me.He's a businessman, who surely knows the value of a team, and uses it.
In any case, this crisis will be dissected for the rest of my life, and as always, more will be revealed.
I agree that any group of decision-makers needs to... (show quote)


You are right you can't hold a person responsible for all decisions made. Unless the person did see the question and answer that was presented. At which time the person ether would have agreed with the answer or changed it. As to the President's reaction to the criticism , or abuse. The person
checking his reaction has to willingly listen to all the f**e ,false and true statements. For example it has been stated that DJT hasn't really had to face the results of his actions. He has always managed to get by . As to knowing the value of a team. It is easy to work with a team that agrees with everything you say. Again here the statements have gone out that anyone who dosen't show loyalty or agrees with him is gotten rid of.
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Apr 10, 2020 08:01:50   #
billy a wrote:
I couldn't finish reading your rant...I know we all have time on our hands, but the premise of your lengthy note is that this china-flu is all one man's fault. I will assume it diddn't get any more factual from there Tedious.


Every organization needs to be accountable bloated or not. If only to be able to have someone to blame if decsions made go wrong. With the need to make decsions there is always a chance to make the wrong one. The idea of making decsions right or wrong is to make the wrong ones for the right reasons. It is hard enough to have an organization with the proper lines of responsibility ,but to have one that does not have those same lines leads to chaos. Most military members will recognize that as a chain of command,those who are civilians will see that as their supervisor and those above.
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Apr 5, 2020 02:34:43   #
proud republican wrote:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/russian-plane-c****av***s-medical-gear-lands-u-s-after-trump-n1174436


Simply search the following was checked and verified
Defense one politics 04/02/2020 3 days ago
NBC news 04/02/2020 3 days ago
Politico news 04/01/2020 4 days ago
New York post 04/02/2020
Cnn.com 04/02/2020
The Hill 3 days ago
The beast 3 days ago
Fox news 4 days ago
CBS news 3 days ago
These are some of the reports that were made about that flight.
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Apr 1, 2020 21:30:27   #
Sicilianthing wrote:
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It’s beyond Mastery in Propaganda and the 6 networks are involved in it...
Patriots, Liberty groups and real undercover investigators are now going out and filming the places the MSM is saying are over loaded...

It’s all Lies

Bulls**t fricken Lies by the usual Suspects to cover and serve a greater agenda that’s underway... (I can name 3 top results)

The tests are all f**e and designed to detect the flu but with a new marker they say is W***nflu...

It’s all a big Phat Fricken SHAM...

You’re all being played so bad, it’s the worst s**m in this nations history !

I could careless what happens beyond my borders or in that Mexican Disaster next door either.....

My concern
My oaths
My duty is to stop and reverse the damages to restore the Republic.

I’m calling it IN and so are countless others.

Go back to work or you will face economic catastrophe like 90% of Americans...
>>> br br It’s beyond Mastery in Propaga... (show quote)


Well one thing is for sure my eyes tell me one thing something got the people into the hospital and the results are increasing. Lies or not if it is easily caught then the best idea is not be in the area where you can catch it.That means taking precautions. Being that alot people can be careless it won't take much to keep the v***s in circulation.
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Apr 1, 2020 20:23:53   #
Sicilianthing wrote:
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These are facts, and most of those people have the regular flu or something else...

Go back and read it carefully again and LEARN the T***h.


One thing for sure wh**ever it is the hospital I work at has two wings dedicated to isolation patients. The occupation of the rooms have slowly been increasing new room or rooms occupied daily. Second as for the areas could it be possible that they are empty because people are staying home? As for being war zones nothing he has presented justifies the statement.The tests are done when the patient presents themselves. As for overloading what does it look like in the wards. Again the person taking the pictures when did he take them? If the hospitals are following the present procedures there are no visitors being allowed to enter the faculties. Must faculties have two parking areas one for employees one for visitors and patients. If the public is being played it's a hell of a good job.
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Apr 1, 2020 08:53:04   #
Unfortunately the import regs are in place to protect American companies and the people. Agreed the regs should be suspended at the present to allow for the need. That's a step that I don't think is going to be considered.
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Mar 18, 2020 22:25:11   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
Trump has made mistakes, anyone who doesn't see that is blind. How we live our lives in the interim is what determines our character and resolve. The one mistake you made is why place blame on anyone? We're all in this together so let's make the best of it. A kind of help others out, really common sense.


I think you should reread what I wrote I didn't place any blame I said since it happened on his watch that is how it will be remembered. With the decsions made and when they were made it will be remembered as worthy of fixing the blame.
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Mar 18, 2020 01:15:51   #
JFlorio wrote:
Not true in my case. I “attacked” you because you are blaming the spread of this flu on Trump. That’s ridiculous. Just like it is ridiculous to blame the spread of the swine flu on Obama IMO.


The spread of the v***s was going to happen no matter what was done. The comments made by himself and the adminstration didn't help. People are careless , in some cases the entire group needs strong leadership. If the decisions made were put into effect earlier the country could possibly have kept the amount of cases down. Which would have gotten us over the hump quicker.As of now the adminstration is going to be blamed because the lack of quick action.
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Mar 17, 2020 23:21:04   #
JFlorio wrote:
Boy as dumb as you are your moniker really fits. Trying to blame Trump for a v***s that could never be constrained in a free country this size. He may have made mistakes. Who knows. Maybe Obama made mistakes with the Swine flu. Retrospect’s easy. It’s your side that has the i***ts that want open borders. You’re just another troll.


quote=zombinis3]That is not the problem it is here and when an adminstration denies or ignores facts it has an effect , we as a country are now in trouble. It all comes down to decsions made which were wrong. It is on Trump's watch and that is how it will be remembered.Whether as a person you accept it or not that is on you. But ignoring the problem and placing the blame on someone else it doesn't help. With all the comments made you still can claim that Trump hasn't made any mistakes it is again on you.
Boy as dumb as you are your moniker really fits. T... (show quote)
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Never blamed anyone just said that this v***s happened on his watch that is how it is going to be remembered. When I mentioned adminstrations it goes for all adminstrations. All presidents make mistakes those who say that a president doesn't make any is looking at the world with rose colored glasses.
As for wanting open borders I do believe that we do need new blood put into the American bloodline.But entry should be controlled and should also given to people who have proven that they are safer here. As per sides you ,me and everyone who is citizen should not been on sides in accordance to what the government can and can't do , anything that the government decides it should effect everyone equally. It has been said that when someone’s arguments take the form of personal attacks and name-calling it’s a pretty clear admission that they don’t have anything valid or worthwhile to say.
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Mar 17, 2020 22:15:13   #
proud republican wrote:
It's not Trump's epidemic !! It's W***n epidemic,call it what it is!


That is not the problem it is here and when an adminstration denies or ignores facts it has an effect , we as a country are now in trouble. It all comes down to decsions made which were wrong. It is on Trump's watch and that is how it will be remembered.Whether as a person you accept it or not that is on you. But ignoring the problem and placing the blame on someone else it doesn't help. With all the comments made you still can claim that Trump hasn't made any mistakes it is again on you.
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