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May 31, 2020 18:05:13   #
bahmer wrote:
I think that you are right and it will be a matter of days or less. Just like Epstein's execution this will be similar.


I hope I am wrong. He needs his day in court. But, I fear that he will leave the building in a bodybag.
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May 31, 2020 18:03:21   #
Tug484 wrote:
I just got an email that said him and that cop used to work together at a bar as security.
Chauvan must have had a grudge against him.


Not necessarily. Chauvin worked in the parking lot and Floyd worked inside as a bouncer. As of yet, no one knows if they ever met or worked the same shifts. You may be right....
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May 31, 2020 18:00:11   #
BigMike wrote:
Can't wait! I'm ready to fight! Already have three targets I could easily hit.

No hurry, though.

Trump has the same targets.

We will beat them with the weapons they used on us!


Be careful Mike....I don't want to see you in the news. But, I agree...if we do not stand up to the thugs....we will be outnumbered, outgunned, and we can kiss freedom good-by.
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May 31, 2020 17:52:14   #
Barracuda2020 wrote:
The officer is not the criminal, and would you be so generous if it was your father was handcuffed, lying on the ground with his face in the dirt gasping for breath, pleading for air. I'm predicting you cannot even fathom it. The Blackman was an automatic criminal, and even if he was, once apprehended why was he not brought at least to his knees, or put in the car in custody? Do you really think your opinion would be so charitable if the officer who did that to your father was black? I don thin so.
The officer is not the criminal, and would you be ... (show quote)


Strange that you should ask. About 6 years ago, a member of my family was arrested for breaking and entering. Cops were called and at the same time I was called by a friend. The cops and I arrived within seconds of each other, I arrived first. The cops surrounded the house, a baton was used to bust down the door, my relative was manhandled to the ground, hog tied and cuffed. My relative was confused as he was d**gged from the house and put into the squad car. The whole thing lasted 38 minutes. I remember every detail as if it happened today.

Well it seems that a well meaning neighbor called the cops about a man who she thought was armed breaking into the house. She did not know this had been his home and suffered from Alzheimer's. He had a confusion attack, he thought he was home and he had misplaced his keys. He was only 55, but had been diagnosed for two years. He was quickly declining in health and in particular his mind. He died shortly after this incident.

I did not like the way he was treated, but I understood that the cops were doing their job.

So...I have been there..I held and still hold no ill feeling for these policemen. They were called, they arrested....by the books. His funeral was attended by most of the police and the neighbor.
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May 31, 2020 17:29:21   #
https://www.complex.com/life/2020/05/ex-officer-derek-chauvin-reportedly-on-suicide-watch-george-floyd-k*****g

How many days will it be until the lights go out at 2AM and Derek will be dead? Was his arrest used to stop the r**ts...meat for the animals?

Sad thing about scapegoats...after they fulfill their function, they are k**led.


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May 31, 2020 17:01:39   #
GoCubs wrote:
What video are you watching anyway? He never "fought" with the officers. He complied with them.


Read the complaint. Links have been given several times.
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May 31, 2020 16:55:41   #
EmilyD wrote:
But why did officer Chauvin continue to use the neck restraint (1) after Floyd was no longer struggling (about 5 minutes); and (2) after Floyd lost consciousness (2+ minutes).

Chauvin was charged with murder and manslaughter. I agree that it was not intentional, but it is clear to anyone who watches the video that Chauvin was not paying attention to what he was doing and what was happening to Floyd while he was being pinned down by Chauvin. Floyd could not breathe...he was begging them to let him breathe....if that's not choking him, then what is?

Compliance was certainly achieved once Chauvin had a handcuffed Floyd down on the ground with one knee on Floyd's neck and the other knee on his back. That is when Chauvin should have stopped the neck and back restraint. Compression of Floyd's back with Chauvin's other knee, holding him on the ground in a prone position was also inhibiting breathing.
But why did officer Chauvin continue to use the ne... (show quote)


I guess that is a question the officer will need to speak to....
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May 31, 2020 13:19:46   #
useful mattoid 45 wrote:
Yeah, until he went limp and then for another minute or two. A real hero


He had gone limp several times, got up and fought with the officers. It is easy to go limp and for that matter slow your respiration/heart rate way down. My resting heart rate has gone as low as 40 bpm with respiration to 3 breaths per minute and I can make this happen by meditation… Not saying Floyd did this....I am saying it is possible.
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May 31, 2020 13:11:47   #
Radiance3 wrote:
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Well, that's why I did not make a final conclusion. Dr. Baden must be right on his assessment. The picture was so misleading. No wonder the 3 Police Officers with him did not stop him.

So, he died of other things. Okay, I got it.


I believe that he died from a combination of conditions. But, like you...I need to see the comprehensive autopsy with his blood work and dissection of head, heart, and liver.

Here is a picture of the hold, notice the nose and mouth are free...notice the placement of the knee. The Carotid artery (one on each side) runs anterior of the jaw bone, the trachea is between the arteries....all in the front of the neck, that is the throat.




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May 31, 2020 12:26:34   #
Peewee wrote:
That sounds like music to my ears!


I was ranting.....

I strongly support our military and police, things like this makes my blood boil.
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May 31, 2020 12:13:33   #
Radiance3 wrote:
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G****e F***d perhaps had another kind of illness. But without that kind of choking he probably did not have died. The chocking triggered and intensified his death. That was very cruel and wrong. I will wait what really happened before I could make a final conclusion. As of now, the kneeling on his throat was very cruel. Must never do that to any human being or even to animals. It hurts by just watching it.


He was not chocked. The officer did not lean on his throat, which is the FRONT side of the neck. He leaned on the side of the neck resting the knee on the three major muscles that keeps the head upright and allows you to turn your head from side to side. See attached. Sorry about second diagram, but see the large muscles in the neck...that is where the knee rested. Remember when Floyd fell as he was scrambling out of the squad car, he fell on his stomach....that is why I used the back diagram.

Throat



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May 31, 2020 11:42:15   #
GoCubs wrote:
According to??????


Read the handbook.....I gave links several times.
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May 31, 2020 11:40:25   #
bilordinary wrote:
Didn't they work at the same place as bouncers for 17 years?


Not for 17 years, Floyd was in prison up to a year ago. The officer worked at the club for 17 years. The police officer worked outside in the parking area and Floyd worked inside as a bouncer.
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May 31, 2020 11:31:20   #
eagleye13 wrote:
The Cops attack on Floyd was unnecessary, and brutal.
The cop is a prick.
A bad cop.


Personality and "feeling" aside, the arrest and restraint was by the book.
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May 31, 2020 11:29:08   #
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I can only speak for the last.... But most of the OPP was on the side of the Covington boys. xx


Eventually....
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