02/12/2019 Manifesto of Faith (Part 2)

Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Müller
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Modernist cardinal, liberal theologian, and author attack Cardinal Müller’s ‘Manifesto of Faith’
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Cardinal Müller issues Manifesto (Part 2)

The ordination of the priest “gives him a sacred power” (CCC 1592), which is irreplaceable, because through it Jesus becomes sacramentally present in His saving action.

Therefore, priests voluntarily opt for celibacy as "a sign of new life.”
(CCC 1579)

It is about the self-giving in the service of Christ and His coming kingdom.

With a view to receiving the ordination in the three stages of this ministry, the Church is “bound by the choice made by the Lord Himself.

That is why it is not possible to ordain women.”
(CCC 1577).

To imply that this impossibility is somehow a form of discrimination against women shows only the lack of understanding for this sacrament, which is not about earthly power but the representation of Christ, the Brideg***m of the Church.


4. Moral Law

Faith and life are inseparable, for Faith apart from works is dead.
(CCC 1815)

The moral law is the work of divine wisdom and leads man to the promised blessedness.
(CCC 1950)

Consequently, the "knowledge of the divine and natural law is necessary" to do good and reach this goal.
(CCC 1955)

Accepting this t***h is essential for all people of good will.

For he who dies in mortal sin without repentance will be forever separated from God.
(CCC 1033)

This leads to practical consequences in the lives of Christians, which are often ignored today.
(cf 2270-2283; 2350-2381).
http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s2c2a5.htm

The moral law is not a burden, but part of that liberating t***h.
(cf John 8:32)

Through which the Christian walks on the path of salvation and which may not be relativized.


5. Eternal Life

Many wonder today what purpose the Church still has in its existence, when even bishops prefer to be politicians rather than to proclaim the Gospel as teachers of the Faith.

The role of the Church must not be watered down by trivialities, but its proper place must be addressed.

Every human being has an immortal soul, which in death is separated from the body, hoping for the resurrection of the dead.
(CCC 366)

Death makes man's decision for or against God definite. Everyone has to face the particular judgement immediately after death.
(CCC 1021)

Either a purification is necessary, or man goes directly into heavenly bliss and is allowed to see God face to face.

There is also the dreadful possibility that a person will remain opposed to God to the very end, and by definitely refusing His Love, "condemns himself immediately and forever.”
(CCC 1022)

“God created us without us, but He did not want to save us without us” (CCC 1847)

The eternity of the punishment of hell is a terrible reality, which - according to the testimony of Holy Scripture - attracts all who “die in the state of mortal sin.”
(CCC 1035)

The Christian goes through the narrow gate, for “the gate is wide, and the way that leads to ruin is wide, and many are upon it.”
(Matthew 7:13)


To keep silent about these and the other t***hs of the Faith and to teach people accordingly is the greatest deception against which the Catechism vigorously warns.

It represents the last trial of the Church and leads man to a religious delusion, “the price of their apostasy.”
(CCC 675)

It is the fraud of Antichrist.

“He will deceive those who are lost by all means of injustice; for they have closed themselves to the love of the t***h by which they should be saved.”
(2 Thessalonians 2:10)


Call

As workers in the vineyard of the Lord, we all have a responsibility to recall these fundamental t***hs by clinging to what we ourselves have received.

We want to give courage to go the way of Jesus Christ with determination, in order to obtain eternal life by following His commandments.
(CCC 2075)

Let us ask the Lord to let us know how great the gift of the Catholic Faith is, through which opens the door to eternal life.

“For he that shall be ashamed of me, and of my words, in this adulterous and sinful generation:

The Son of Man also will be ashamed of him, when He shall come in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.”
(Mark 8:38)

Therefore, we are committed to strengthening the Faith by confessing the t***h which is Jesus Christ Himself.


We too, and especially we bishops and priests, are addressed when Paul, the Apostle of Jesus Christ, gives this admonition to his companion and successor, Timothy:

“I charge thee, before God and Jesus Christ, Who shall judge the living and the dead, by His coming, and His kingdom:

Preach the word:

Be instant in season, out of season: reprove, entreat, rebuke in all patience and doctrine.

For there shall be a time, when they will not endure sound doctrine; but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears:

And will indeed turn away their hearing from the t***h, but will be turned unto fables.

But be thou vigilant, labour in all things, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill thy ministry. Be sober.”
(2 Tim 4:1-5).


May Mary, the Mother of God, implore for us the grace to remain faithful without wavering to the confession of the t***h about Jesus Christ.

United in faith and prayer
Gerhard Cardinal Müller

Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith 2012-2017

[1] The numbers in the text refer to the Catechism of The Catholic Church.

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02/08/2019 NEWSCATHOLIC CHURCH
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Cardinal Müller issues Manifesto: A quasi correction of Pope Francis’ pontificate

Catholic, Gerhard Müller, Manifesto Of Faith, Pope Francis

02/08/2019 (LifeSiteNews) –
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Cardinal Gerhard Müller, the former head of the Vatican’s doctrinal office, has released a Manifesto which reads like a correction of many of the doctrinal errors Pope Francis has taught during his tenure as Pope.

The cardinal's intention was to release the manifesto on February 10.

That date is the eve of the anniversary of Pope Benedict’s announcement in 2013 that he would abdicate his papal office, as well as the eve of the cardinal's own ordination to the priesthood.

However, a Polish website broke the embargo and thus the document is being released today.

Pope Francis removed Cardinal Müller from his post as head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith in 2017 after he had served in that capacity since he was appointed by Pope Benedict in 2012.

In the manifesto, Cardinal Müller does not mention the Pope but says that he was asked to make a public testimony of the t***h “in the face of growing confusion about the doctrine of the Faith.”

The manifesto was released in the wake of Pope Francis’ highly controversial joint document with an Islamic leader which says that “the pluralism and the diversity of religions” are “willed by God in His wisdom” – a statement many believe contravenes the Catholic Faith.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/pope-francis-under-fire-for-claiming-diversity-of-religions-is-willed-by-go

Cardinal Müller takes a contrary stand when he says in the Manifesto:
The distinction of the three persons in the divine unity (CCC 254) marks a fundamental difference in the belief in God and the image of man from that of other religions.

Religions disagree precisely over this belief in Jesus the Christ. …

Therefore, the first letter of John refers to one who denies His divinity as an antichrist (1 John 2:22), since Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is from eternity one in being with God, His Father.
(CCC 663)

The cardinal is releasing his manifesto to a worldwide audience, in seven different languages, thus allowing for a widespread affirmation of the orthodox Catholic faith.

Providing clarity on the Church's view of Islam, Cardinal Müller rejects the Muslim view that sees Christ as a prophet, rather than the Messiah.

“We are to resist the relapse into ancient heresies with clear resolve, which saw in Jesus Christ only a good person, brother and friend, prophet and moralist,” the Manifesto says.
(End Part 2)

02/12/2019 Manifesto of Faith (Part 1)

Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Müller
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Modernist cardinal, liberal theologian, and author attack Cardinal Müller’s ‘Manifesto of Faith’
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In the manifesto, Cardinal Müller says that he was asked to make a public testimony of the t***h “in the face of growing confusion about the doctrine of the Faith.”

The manifesto was released in the wake of Pope Francis’ highly controversial joint document with an Islamic leader which says that “the pluralism and the diversity of religions” are “willed by God in His wisdom” – A statement many believe contravenes the Catholic Faith.

The cardinal is releasing his manifesto to a worldwide audience, in seven different languages, thus allowing for a widespread affirmation of the orthodox Catholic faith.


“Let not your heart be troubled!”
(John 14:1)

In the face of growing confusion about the doctrine of the Faith, many bishops, priests, religious and lay people of the Catholic Church have requested that I make a public testimony about the t***h of revelation.

It is the shepherds' very own task to guide those entrusted to them on the path of salvation. This can only succeed if they know this way and follow it themselves.

The words of the Apostle here apply:

“For above all I have delivered unto you what I have received.”
(1 Corinthians 15:3)

Today, many Christians are no longer even aware of the basic teachings of the Faith, so there is a growing danger of missing the path to eternal life.

However, it remains the very purpose of the Church to lead humanity to Jesus Christ, the light of the peoples.
(see LG 1)

In this situation, the question of orientation arises.

According to John Paul II, the Catechism of the Catholic Church is a “safe standard for the doctrine of the faith.”

(Fidei Depositum IV).
https://www.ewtn.com/library/PAPALDOC/JP2FIDEI.HTM
https://instituteofcatholicculture.org/fidei-depositum/

It was written with the aim of strengthening the Faith of the brothers and sisters whose belief has been massively questioned by the “dictatorship of relativism.”[1]


1. The one and triune God revealed in Jesus Christ

The epitome of the Faith of all Christians is found in the confession of the Most Holy Trinity.

We have become disciples of Jesus, children and friends of God by being baptized in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.

The distinction of the three persons in the divine unity (CCC 254) marks a fundamental difference in the belief in God and the image of man from that of other religions.

Religions disagree precisely over this belief in Jesus the Christ.

He is true God and true Man, conceived by the Holy Spirit and born of the Virgin Mary.

The Word made flesh, the Son of God, is the only Savior of the world (CCC 679) and the only Mediator between God and men.
(CCC 846)

Therefore, the first letter of John refers to one who denies His divinity as an antichrist.
(1 John 2:22)

Since Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is from eternity one in being with God, His Father.
(CCC 663)

We are to resist the relapse into ancient heresies with clear resolve, which saw in Jesus Christ only a good person, brother and friend, prophet and moralist.

He is first and foremost the Word that was with God and is God, the Son of the Father, Who assumed our human nature to redeem us and Who will come to judge the living and the dead.

Him alone, we worship in unity with the Father and the Holy Spirit as the Only and True God.
(CCC 691)


2. The Church

Jesus Christ founded the Church as a visible sign and tool of salvation realized in the Catholic Church.
(816)

He gave His Church, which “emerged from the side of the Christ who died on the Cross” (766), a sacramental constitution that will remain until the Kingdom is fully achieved.
(CCC 765)

Christ, the Head, and the faithful as members of the body, are a mystical person (CCC 795), which is why the Church is sacred, for the one Mediator has designed and sustained its visible structure.
(CCC 771)

Through it the redemptive work of Christ becomes present in time and space via the celebration of the Holy Sacraments, especially in the Eucharistic Sacrifice, the Holy Mass.
(CCC 1330)

The Church conveys with the authority of Christ the divine revelation, which extends to all the elements of doctrine, “including the moral teaching, without which the saving t***hs of the faith cannot be preserved, explained, and observed.”
(CCC 2035)


3. Sacramental Order

The Church is the universal sacrament of salvation in Jesus Christ.
(CCC 776)

She does not reflect herself, but the light of Christ, which shines on her face. But this happens only when the t***h revealed in Jesus Christ becomes the point of reference, rather than the views of a majority or the spirit of the times;

For Christ Himself has entrusted the fullness of grace and t***h to the Catholic Church (CCC 819), and He Himself is present in the sacraments of the Church.

The Church is not a man-made association whose structure its members v**ed into being at their will.

It is of divine origin.

"Christ himself is the author of ministry in the Church.

He set her up, gave her authority and mission, orientation and goal.
(CCC 874).

The admonition of the Apostle is still valid today, that cursed is anyone who proclaims another gospel, “even if we ourselves were to give it or an angel from heaven.”
(Galatians 1:8)

The mediation of faith is inextricably bound up with the human credibility of its messengers, who in some cases have abandoned the people entrusted to them, unsettling them and severely damaging their faith.

Here the Word of Scripture describes those who do not listen to the t***h and who follow their own wishes, who flatter their ears because they cannot endure sound doctrine.
(cf. 2 Timothy 4:3-4)

The task of the Magisterium of the Church is to “preserve God’s people from deviations and defections” in order to “guarantee them the objective possibility of professing the true faith without error.”
(890)

This is especially true with regard to all seven sacraments.

The Holy Eucharist is “source and summit of the Christian life.”
(CCC 1324)

The Eucharistic Sacrifice, in which Christ includes us in His Sacrifice of the Cross, is aimed at the most intimate union with Him.
(CCC 1382)

Therefore, the Holy Scripture admonishes with regard to the reception of the Holy Communion:

“Whoever eats unworthily of the bread and drinks from the Lord's cup makes himself guilty of profaning the body and of the blood of the Lord.”
(1 Corinthians 11:27)

“Anyone conscious of a grave sin must receive the sacrament of Reconciliation before coming to communion.”
(CCC 1385)

From the internal logic of the sacrament, it is understood that divorced and civilly remarried persons, whose sacramental marriage exists before God, as well as those Christians who are not in full communion with the Catholic Faith and the Church, just as all those who are not disposed to receive the Holy Eucharist fruitfully (CCC 1457), because it does not bring them to salvation.

To point this out corresponds to the spiritual works of mercy.

The confession of sins in Holy Confession at least once a year is one of the Church’s commandments.
(CCC 2042)

When the believers no longer confess their sins and no longer experience the absolution of their sins, salvation becomes impossible;

After all, Jesus Christ became Man to redeem us from our sins.

The power of forgiveness that the Risen Lord has given to the Apostles and their successors in the ministry of bishops and priests applies also for mortal and venial sins which we commit after Baptism.

The current popular practice of confession makes it clear that the conscience of the faithful is not sufficiently formed.

God's mercy is given to us, that we might fulfill His Commandments to become one with His Holy Will, and not so as to avoid the call to repentance.
(CCC 1458)

“The priest continues the work of redemption on earth.”
(CCC 1589)

(End Part 1)

woodguru,

Ever read the Dante's Inferno (the Divine Comedy, Volume 1, Hell): Dante Alighieri and the seven deadly sin's or vices, 9 Circles of Hell.

After passing through the gate of Purgatory proper, Virgil guides the pilgrim Dante through the mountain's seven terraces.

These correspond to the seven deadly sins or "seven roots of sinfulness":

P***e, Envy, Wrath, Sloth, Avarice (and Prodigality), Gluttony, and Lust.

Worth the read, on what hell is like, other than your modernism and moral Relativism and watered down theology.

Sew_What,

The true Church of Jesus Christ, is the Bride of Christ and is guided by the Holy Spirit for 1987 years and did not commit or condone these sexual sins crimes. The gates of Hell and sin's of Hell shall not prevail against Jesus's Church.

I repeat to you, Men, and Women only committed these grave mortal sins of sexual abuse and crimes to children and to women, they will go to prison and suffer death of the soul in the eternal fires.

They will be held accountable at their death, and on judgement day when Our Lord Jesus Christ will judge the world to the eternal fires of Gahanna - Hell - the pit - hades - the under-world.

Put your guilt and shame to the actual offenders these men and women, that commit these shameful sexual acts on the innocent children and women in our present day modern society in secular and non-secular societies.

Evil abounds all around us, by Lucifer-Satan and his demonic demon's for our very soul's to commit these previsions of sexual sin's against the innocent.

Had not Satan entered and the Demon's entered into their minds, and souls, they would not acted and allowed their evil sexual passions to manifest in these criminal actions on these women and children.


When Lucifer first made that choice, to defy God, he made it because he said, “I want to be like God.”

And he found out that immediately he became as much unlike God as it is possible to be.

God is holy; Lucifer he became wretched.

And he says to Eve, see, the reason God doesn’t want you to eat is because if you eat you’ll become like God. He’s just taking them through the same exact scenario, only he knows exactly what the effect of it is going to be.

He doesn’t understand the procreative aspect, but he does understand if they sin, they’re going to experience exactly what he experienced, the desire to be like God becomes the reality of being as much unlike God as is conceivably.

And what Eve and Adam found out is she-he thought she could be like God, and ended up in the same situation as much unlike God as possible to be.

This is the taint of original sin and sins of sin and concupiscence that are retained by all of us, men women, and children.


So these sexual predator Priests, Clergy, wether it be Catholic, Protestant ministers, Public school teachers, they are only men-&-women and have the taint of original sin and concupiscence and have perpetrated these sinful criminal sexual acts on the innocent.


Catholic and Protestant differences of original sins and sin of concupiscence:

The primary difference between Catholic theology and most of the many different Protestant theologies on the issue of concupiscence is whether it can be classified as sin by its own nature.

Different Protestant denominations tend to see concupiscence as sin itself, an act of the sinner.

The Catholic Church teaches that while it is highly likely to cause sin, concupiscence is not sin itself. Rather, it is "the tinder for sin" which "cannot harm those who do not consent to sin."
(CCC 1264)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concupiscence#Catholic_and_Protestant_differences


This difference is intimately tied with the different traditions on original sin.

Much Protestant theology holds that the original prelapsarian nature of humanity was an innate tendency to good; the special relationship Adam and Eve enjoyed with God was due not to some supernatural gift, but to their own natures.

Hence, in some Protestant traditions, the Fall was not the destruction of a supernatural gift, leaving humanity's nature to work unimpeded, but rather the corruption of that nature itself.

Since the present nature of humans is corrupted from their original nature, it follows that it is not good, but rather evil (although some good may still remain).

Thus, in some Protestant traditions, concupiscence is evil in itself. The Thirty-nine articles of the Church of England state that "the Apostle doth confess, that concupiscence and lust hath of itself the nature of sin".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concupiscence#Catholic_and_Protestant_differences


Sew_What,
Looks like you are the first to condemn the Catholic Church, the pope and all the Priest's Nuns, Holy orders and all the laity for personal sexual sin.

100 % percent of the Catholic faithful of the Catholic Church, does not condone this sexual predator behavior
and for you to be shaming the Catholic Church, and denouncing it is purely shameful.

The question then is:

Where did evil come from?

And the answer to that is that we only know what we know from the Bible.

It is really useless to speculate about that.

Nobody would argue that there is evil in the world. Everybody admits that.

Not everybody admits that we are totally depraved and that we have original sin in us.

Not everybody admits that we are evil and wretched to the core.

But everyone admits there is evil in the world to some degree.

We have a New Testament commentary on Genesis 3 in two places. Who this serpent is. And also to demonstrate the veracity of this account.

In 2 Corinthians 11:3 Paul says, “I’m afraid lest as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness.”
There’s that same idea of craftiness, there is that serpent and there is Eve again.

First Timothy 2:13, “It was not Adam who was deceived,” okay, you want to remember that, it was not Adam who was deceived. Adam wasn’t deceived, who was deceived? Eve.

It was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being quite deceived, fell into t***sgression. So, there we have in the New Testament the clear identity as to who the serpent was, and the affirmation of this temptation by the devil.

1 Chronicles 21, he’s called adversary and the adversary simply meaning a term to identifying him becomes a proper name and he’s no longer the adversary, he is adversary, with a capital “S”, Satan. From then on, he is Satan. He is the adversary of God and the adversary of men and women.

Jesus Christ to the Pharisees, Matthew 23:13.
But woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you shut the kingdom of heaven against men, for you yourselves do not enter in; and those that are going in, you suffer not to enter.

John 9:41
Jesus said to them: If you were blind, you should not have sin: but now you say: We see. Your sin remaineth.

In Habakkuk chapter 1:13
“God is of purer eyes than to approve evil or behold evil. He cannot look on wickedness.”

First Corinthians 14:33 says, “God is not the author of confusion.” Confusion is a product of sin.

First John 1:5 says, “God is light and in Him is no darkness at all.”

James 1:13 says, “God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempts He any man.”

First John 2:16 says, “All that is in the world,” all evil categorically, “the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, the p***e of life is not of the Father.”

Psalm 5:4 “You are not of God who has pleasure in wickedness, neither will evil dwell with you.”

Psalm 5:4 In fact, on a positive note,

Isaiah 6, the antiphonal cry of the angels was that God was holy, holy, holy.

Wonttakeitanymore,

Typo error, Human men and women.

Is this more to your satisfaction...

A thousand pardons lack of sleep and tiredness.

My English and writing proof reading sk**ls we not up to par, "Late night blogging and biblical research.

Texas T***h,

We all have to carry our crosses through life, I'm caring my cross of sin, pain and warrantless persecution.

I carry that same cross of sin, to the goal-line Heaven, with joy and asking forgiveness all my days in my heart-beat-life, because I know what awaits me, at the end of our journeys.

Present day modernism Christianity, is now preached by evangelists, Pentecostal, fundamentalism and non-denominational movements is and are, completely "Fill-in-the-Blank" Modernism form's of Christianity including the present day Biblical worldly Relativism, which has clouded people's minds on Jesus's Christ's Authority in his Church that he founded...

a. "Cookies-&-Milk" Bible passages,
b. Naivety of "Watered-Down" Holy scripture,
c. The fallacy of "Feel-Good" Christianity,
d. Shopping-Cart Mentality of Christianity and,
f. Modernism form of Christianity and Biblical worldly Relativism, which has clouded people's minds on

As to the actual t***hs of what the Holy biblical verses and explicit quotation verses that Jesus taught, the Apostles and the Early Church Fathers has passed down to his Church and to God fearing Christians.

I for one, do not want my soul and my sins to burn in hell for eternity, in a lake of fire.

I relish for my sins to burned away on the threshing fires of Purgatory, because no, soul can enter Heaven unless our souls have been refined and all sin is removed before entrance to Heaven.

Revelation 21:27
There shall not enter into it any thing defiled, or that worketh a*********n or maketh a lie, but they that are written in the book of life of the Lamb.
1 Corinthians 6:9–10; Galatians 5:19–21

John the Baptist uses the imagery of the threshing floor to describe the coming Messiah who would separate the true believers from the false.

Matthew 3:12; Luke 3:17
The true followers of Christ will be gathered into the kingdom of God just as grain is gathered into barns, while those who reject Christ will be burned up “with unquenchable fire,” just as the worthless chaff is burned.

Psalm 1:4; Isaiah 17:13
The wicked are often described as chaff that the wind drives away.

Matthew 13:36–43
Similar imagery of the good grain being separated from the worthless weeds appears in the parable of the wheat and the tares.

God uses heat of fire to refine us, and show his reflection in us, before our entrance into heaven.

Isaiah 48:10
Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.

Zechariah 13:9
And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It [is] my people: and they shall say, The LORD [is] my God.

Malachi 3:3
And he shall sit refining and cleansing the silver, and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and shall refine them as gold, and as silver, and they shall offer sacrifices to the Lord in justice.

Luke 12:49
“I came to cast fire on the earth, and would that it were already kindled!

James 1:12
Blessed is the man who remains steadfast under trial, for when he has stood the test he will receive the crown of life, which God has promised to those who love him.

James 3:6
And the tongue is a fire, a world of unrighteousness. The tongue is set among our members, staining the whole body, setting on fire the entire course of life, and set on fire by hell.

1 Peter 1:6-7
In this you rejoice, though now for a little while, if necessary, you have been grieved by various trials, so that the tested genuineness of your faith—more precious than gold that perishes though it is tested by fire—may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ.

1 Peter 4:12-13
Beloved, do not be surprised at the fiery trial when it comes upon you to test you, as though something strange were happening to you. But rejoice insofar as you share Christ's sufferings, that you may also rejoice and be glad when his glory is revealed.

1 Peter 5:10
But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, establish, strengthen, settle [you].

Revelation 3:18
I counsel you to buy from me gold refined by fire, so that you may be rich, and white garments so that you may clothe yourself and the shame of your nakedness may not be seen, and salve to anoint your eyes, so that you may see.

Romans 3:23
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

1 Corinthians 3:13
Each one's work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done.

Amen, Amen, Let be so, I believe, Amen Amen.

Ahhhemmm, Canuckus Deploracus,

Please speak the t***h, when quoting the Bible and don't take out of context as to your ignorant belief of the Holy Bible.

A quick simple Bible, search would have corrected your lack of knowledge about judgement day and the lake and fires of hell, which is real, to all true believers.

Matthew 10:28
Do not be afraid of those who k**l the body but cannot k**l the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

This is needed advice for all. Hence the Article post thread and title.

"Do People Really Go To Hell ?"

Maybe your Modernism of Christianity and Biblical worldly Relativism has clouded your mind.


Quote, Canuckus Deploracus: "I wouldn't want to spend all of eternity with my mother-in-law..."

Then why would you joke about this.

Quote: My mother-in-law is a great woman... and talk about her demise, if she was a great woman.

Canuckus Deploracus, are you confused ? as to what you wrote... ?

Maybe your mother-in-law is not so bad person after all...


"Satan is abound on earth to torment human Men and Women's souls...

God is an equal opportunity condemner of souls, to the lake of fire, Hell on Judgement Day.

Conversion is to faith and do continued penance, penance and penance.

What does the Bible say about Judgment Day?

Throughout the Bible, it is affirmed that people must answer to the judgment of God by which moral acts are encouraged and evil deeds are condemned.

The day of judgment is the determination of whether you lived a life of righteousness or wickedness.

Discover scripture biblical quotes referring to the day of judgment of Bible verses!

Ezekiel 7:7-8
7 Doom has come upon you, upon you who dwell in the land. The time has come! The day is near! There is panic, not joy, on the mountains.
8 I am about to pour out my wrath on you and spend my anger against you. I will judge you according to your conduct and repay you for all your detestable practices.

Matthew 12:36
But I tell you that everyone will have to give account on the day of judgment for every empty word they have spoken.

Matthew 13:50
And throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Matthew 25:41
“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

Matthew 25:46
“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

John 12:48
There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the last day.

Acts 17:31
31 For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising him from the dead.”

Matthew 16:19
I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; wh**ever you bind on earth will be-bound in heaven, and wh**ever you loose on earth will be-loosed in heaven.”

Romans 2:16
16 This will take place on the day when God judges people’s secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.

1 Corinthians 4:5
Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait until the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of the heart. At that time each will receive their praise from God.

2 Corinthians 5:10
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.

2 Thessalonians 1:9
They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might

Revelation 21:8
But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”

Revelation 20:11-15,
 The Judgment of the Dead:
11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them.

12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books.

13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done.

14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.

15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.

Amen, Amen, Let be so, I believe, Amen Amen.

Therefore, it's really urgent that we preach the Gospel, because people aren't naturally responding to God automatically. We hope they're given the chance to, but hey, the world of the flesh and the devil are really powerful, and it's really easy for people to give into disordered desires of original sin.

It's really easy for people to be brainwashed by the culture, but give themselves to the brainwashing, because it confirms them in their disordered desires.

And it's really easy to be deceived by the deception that the devil is sowing in people's lives, and in the culture at large.

I think most of the popes ... I can remember Benedict the 16th, I think in an interview.

One of those book linked interviews that he did talked about a dampening, a consequence of this kind of modern idea that the way is wide, and that's the way.

I've seen a dampening of enthusiasm for evangelization, and that's very hard to overcome.

Again about the real possibility of damnation, how do I get to Heaven, then?

You get to Heaven by putting your faith in Jesus Christ, and doing what he says. Becoming part of His body of the church, eating His body, drinking His blood, obeying His word, and living the life that He's gonna give us the power to live.

First Corinthians, chapter six, Galatians five, Ephesians five, it says,

"If you keep on committing serious sin, you will be excluded from the Kingdom of God."

We need to repent.

We need to ask God to help us overcome our sins, and begin to live a life of holiness in the church.

Good luck with your lawyer, winning your case against God, and the eternal depositary of human souls, in the eternal lake of fire...

Quit guessing, their's only one immense eternal depositary of human souls, the eternal lake of fire...

The devil, Satan is abound on earth to torment human and women souls.

Beware of Satan’s demise and watch out what you say about Jesus’s he is always listening and watching and will judge your very soul...

The eternal lake of fire, e.g. where condemned human souls are, is there for eternity.

The condemned soul are alive forever, for all eternity, will be tormented by their evil sins they have committed and are away from the absence love of God the Father, God the Son-Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit.

Maybe your mother-in-law is not so bad after all...

You need help, seek God’s knowledge and wisdom, you’ve got it wrong again.

Jesus’s Church, his Bride and the Holy Spirit who guides his Catholic Church did not commit those sexual crimes against children.

Evil tormented d********g men committed those crimes, that abused God’s trust.

They will forever be in the lake of fire 🔥 in hell for all eternity.

The devil, Satan is abound on earth to torment human and women souls.

Beware of Satan’s demise and watch out what you say about Jesus’s he is always listening and watching and will judge your very soul...

Written transcript
https://www.catholic.com/audio/caf/176

Audio transcript
https://www.catholic.com/audio/caf/176

I would say that over the last 50 or 60 years or so, there's been a remarkable change of mentality and worldview amongst Catholics, that hasn't really been paid too much attention to.

I would say that the way many of our fellow Catholics look at the world today, would describe it like this: Broad and wide is the way that leads to Heaven.

Almost everybody's going there.

Narrow is the door that leads to hell.

Hardly anybody's going there.

Now, you might say, like, "What's wrong with this picture?"


It's exactly the opposite of what Jesus Himself said. In Matthew, chapter seven, he says, "Broad and wide is the way that's leading to destruction.

Many are traveling that way.

Narrow is the door that leads to life, difficult is the road, and few there are who are finding it."

Now, Jesus didn't say this because he was happy about the situation.

He didn't say it because this is how it has to be.

But when you look out on the world as it is, many, many people are not honoring God.

They're not believing in Jesus.

They're not living righteous lives.

What Jesus is kind of trying to wake us up to is saying, "Hey.

This isn't a game. You know?

If you don't hold on to the bread of life, if you don't really hold on to the one that the Father has sent to bring us to Heaven, you're not gonna go there."

You know?

It's just really, really serious, and this isn't an isolated text. Like Luke, chapter 13.

Imagine, people asked Jesus, "Will there be few in number who are saved?"

Now, that's a pretty interesting question, isn't it?

He said, "Try very hard to enter by the narrow door, because many will try to enter, but will not be able to."

And then it goes on to say ... Well, people say, "Hey, wait a second, Jesus.

We came to your preaching. We ate and drank with you in the streets. What do you mean?"

He says, "I don't know you. Depart from me."

So, people heard about Jesus. They knew about Jesus.

They enjoyed his preaching.

Maybe they even got healed.

But they didn't respond with faith and repentance, and change their lives.

They didn't become disciples.

They didn't enter into a relationship with Him, and pay attention to the instructions He's trying to give us about how to end up in Heaven, rather than hell.

That's why I wrote the book.

To the Synod on the New Evangelization, in 2012.

You wrote a book, actually, Will Many Be Saved?

Bishop Robert Barron, who at the time was Father Barron, familiar to probably almost everybody in the Catholic world ... wrote a review of that book.

You wrote a reply, and the two of you carried on a conversation about salvation.

"Will Many Be Saved"?

02/11/2019 Three Bad Reasons to Dump Debates

Trent Horn
https://www.catholic.com/profile/trent-horn
https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/three-bad-reasons-to-dump-debates



Recently, a college student asked me if I would come to her campus and engage in a public debate on the issue of a******n.

I said I would be happy to.

Not only are debates one of my favorite things to do as an apologist, I believe they are among the best ways to evangelize university campuses.
Unfortunately, the sponsor of her Catholic club was completely opposed to the idea.

He said he considered debates d******e;

Also, there was the possibility that my opponent might convince one of his students to become pro-choice!


I have heard people say we shouldn’t debate Church’s teachings because that would amount to a concession they could be wrong. Instead, we should boldly proclaim those teachings and the t***h will “defend itself.”

An example of this attitude can be seen in Italian archbishop and president of the Pontifical Academy for Life, Vincenzo Paglia, who once told a reporter, “I am so certain of the power of Christian values that I don’t feel a need to defend them, they defend themselves.”
www.vincenzopaglia.it/index.php/a-new-strategy-an-ambitious-project.html

(For more thoughts on this incident, see my colleague Todd Aglialoro’s post.)
https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/does-the-t***h-need-our-help

In my view, though, all of these objections are misplaced.

Throughout Church history, the faithful have found it both necessary and effective to use public debates in order to spread the gospel.

Let’s take the objections one by one.  


“The t***h should be proclaimed, not debated”

It’s true that the first Christians proclaimed the gospel, but they also publicly disputed those who rejected it.

The Church’s first deacon, St. Stephen, debated people in the synagogue so fiercely that his opponents “could not withstand the wisdom and the Spirit with which he spoke.”
(Acts 6:10).

A believer named Apollos also “powerfully confuted the Jews in public, showing by the scriptures that the Christ was Jesus.”
(Acts 18:28)

St. Paul spent every day in Athens arguing in the marketplace (Acts 17:17), and in Ephesus he “argued daily in the hall of Tyran’nus.

This continued for two years, so that all the residents of Asia heard the word of the Lord, both Jews and Greeks.”
(Acts 19:9-10).

But is it true that Christian t***hs do not “need” us to defend them?

Well, in the early Church, the t***h about grace had to be defended against the Pelagians, the t***h about Christ’s divinity had to be defended against the Arians, and the t***h about the value of human life had to be defended against the barbarians.

In the modern world, the t***h about faith has to be defended against atheists, the t***h about the Church has to be defended against Protestants, and the t***h about the value of unborn children has to be defended against advocates of a******n.

Finally, some people like to quote St. Augustine as saying, “The t***h is like a lion, you don’t have to defend it.

Let it loose and it will defend itself.”

However, as I show in my book What the Saints Never Said, this is definitely a f**e quote.
https://shop.catholic.com/what-the-saints-never-said-pious-misquotes-and-the-subtle-heresies-they-teach-you/

Augustine never said it.

In fact, he even wrote in the City of God
www.newadvent.org/fathers/120116.htm

That refuting heretics can be an ideal way to evangelize others, because “the necessity of defending [the articles of faith] forces us to investigate them more accurately, to understand them more clearly, and to proclaim them more earnestly; and the question mooted by an adversary becomes the occasion of instruction.”


“Debates are d******e and ineffective”

Not long ago, a Christian college called Grand Canyon University canceled a planned speaking event with conservative pundit Ben Shapiro out of fear that his speech would be too d******e.

Later it reversed this decision, but initially the school said, “We believe in many of the things that Ben Shapiro speaks about and stands for.”
https://news.gcu.edu/2019/02/gcu-statement-regarding-decision-to-cancel-ben-shapiro-speaking-engagement/

Yet it defended the cancellation as a means to “bring unity to a community that sits amidst a country that is extremely divided and can’t seem to find a path forward toward unity.”

One answer to this charge of d******eness is to point out that, as Christians, our goal is not that everyone should believe the same thing but that everyone should believe the t***h.

And the t***h always divides people into those who accept it and those who reject it.

Jesus himself said, “Do you think that I have come to give peace on earth? No, I tell you, but rather division” (Luke 12:51).

Jesus went on to describe how this division would occur when his disciples’ friends and even their own family members would reject them.

So, given that the t***h already divides people, I have found debates to be one of the best ways to bring together those who disagree.

For example, when I am invited to give a talk on a non-controversial subject, sometimes there may be only about fifty people who attend and barely a handful, if any, who are non-Catholic.

But when I debate atheism or a******n on campus, hundreds of students show up, and a significant portion of them are on “the other side” of the issue being debated.

At my recent debate with Dan Barker, dozens of students had to be turned away from an auditorium that sat 400.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIuDfh-6iUs

Debates become a place where all kinds of people gather in order to experience a respectful “clash of ideas” and, it can be hoped, be drawn toward the t***h.


“Debates don’t change anyone’s minds”

I agree that it isn’t prudent to have someone unsk**led at debating publicly take on a critic of Church teaching.

But when there is a reasonable prospect that the t***h will be well-defended, a debate can be an opportunity for the Holy Spirit to move someone’s heart and mind to know the t***h.

That’s why I vehemently disagree with the idea that debates “don’t change anyone’s minds.”

True, not everyone who hears the Faith well-defended is instantly converted, but then, no evangelization method has a 100 percent success rate.

And like many of our evangelization efforts, the benefits can be cumulative and the fruits evident only well into the future.

Debates have been instrumental to many people’s conversions, including my own. This is one reason why I agree to do them only if they can be shared online so that their positive effects can reach a much greater number of people.

A few years ago, I received an email from a woman who saw the video of students at Brock University heckling me during a pro-life presentation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgiLOv3QdAo

Her testimony illustrates why I am thankful God has blessed me with the opportunity to defend the teachings of the Church in public debates, and provides a perfect final rebuttal of the idea that debate can’t change hearts and minds:

I watched the clip of your encounter with the students Brock University this week.

I was saddened by how they treated you but the more uncomfortable thing for me was that I recognized myself in their behavior.

That could have been me twenty years ago, back when I was an undergraduate at university. Seeing this video was what compelled me to write you.

I wanted to let you know that sometimes people do change.


One day last fall I was listening to Catholic Answers Live, and you were the guest.

The subject was “Why are you pro-choice?”

I started listening, and a crazy thing happened. Everything you said made sense.

It was logical.

And no one who called in seemed to be able to formulate a clear and solid argument for why a******n was okay.

I thought, “Well, none of these people are experts on the reasons for why pro-choice is the right decision.

Of course they aren’t making sound arguments!”

You then mentioned the debate you’d had with Cecili Chadwick, which was posted on YouTube.

So I checked it out, and once again I was struck by how flimsy the pro-choice argument seemed.

It was innately flawed.

I felt so frustrated with everyone you debated because none of them could formulate a concise argument for why they believed what they did.
And that’s how you turned a staunch pro-choice believer into someone who is now pro-life:

By logic.

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Thank you for your sincere interest and support.

I feel that a balanced approach to Christianity is the best way to understand Christianity: moral, social political and spirituality in todays world of Modernism and the current Relativism of todays society.

Basically, I prefer a balanced Christian referee proctor, on poor religious-faith speech and personal attacks that happens on the current OPP FRC Forum for which they are notorious for.

That will be of most importance, "Respect" of another religious, agnostic and or atheistic beliefs.

This new managed section will dwarf and out preform the current OPP FRS dominated section on all aspects of Ecumenism.

I encourage, the OPP members to announce their faith, and support their opinions with facts found legitimately from URL websites, that are not antagonistic or are attacking other faiths, respect for other faiths.

Pure Ecumenism.

Check out this controversy, on Christian Orthodoxy, vs liberal theologian's Modernism and the current Relativism of todays society beliefs.

Canuckus Deploracus what do you think ?

A question of practiced faith
https://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-152721-1.html


Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Müller
https://www.catholicculture.org/search/resultslist.cfm?
https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=12070

Modernist cardinal, liberal theologian, and author attack Cardinal Müller’s ‘Manifesto of Faith’
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/modernist-cardinal-liberal-theologian-and-author-attack-cardinal-muellers-m

With God's blessing and graces, I am pleased and blessed to start up a New "Catholic Orthodox," (User-Managed Sections), on the OnePoliticalPlaza.com Forum.

The below topics sections will be on;

Catholic: Faith, Religion, Spirituality, Apologetics - Ecumenism sections and Christian outreach and services.

I am please to inform, IDF International Technologies, Inc. of my intent to manage and be a proctor of the:

"Catholic" Faith, Religion, Spirituality, Apologetics, Ecumenism and Christian outreach and service to the OPP Reader MemberShip.

Thank You,

Sincerely,

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