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Sep 10, 2017 08:53:52   #
3jack wrote:
The right to v**e is guaranteed in the Constitution, and the Constitution doesn't say anything about having an ID to cast that v**e, that is why.


This is true Jack, let's see what new laws they'll come up with, I've already read to reinstate being a property owner, but as things stand now that may include a lot of Chinese. LOL
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Sep 10, 2017 08:51:02   #
eagleye13 wrote:
As the Loon would say;
"No need to I.D. me!
I have my tattoo."




Something I could see the Republican party trying to do next.
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Sep 10, 2017 08:43:35   #
Mikeyavelli wrote:
F*****m exists only in the lefty lexicon describing Trump supporters who love America as founded.




I see and doesn't that equate to the "lexicon" of the right relentless narrative calling everyone, not on the right, c*******ts, Marxists, and anything else they can think of which they spew from their misdirected h**eful minds.
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Sep 10, 2017 08:33:37   #
EconomistDon wrote:
1. Emancipation Proclamation -- freeing the s***es
2. 15th Amendment -- giving b****s the right to v**e.
3. Civil Rights Act of 1957
4. Civil Rights act of 1964
5. Welfare-to-Work free training -- defunded by Obama

The first four were ALL Republican initiatives, passed by Republicans, fought by Democrats. Number 5 was implemented under Clinton and expanded under Bush; it was exceptionally successful at providing marketable sk**ls for b****s to leave dependency and become working, tax paying citizens. Apparently Obama didn't want b****s to leave welfare.
1. Emancipation Proclamation -- freeing the s***es... (show quote)



It wasn't defunded by Obama at all, is this a mistake or intentional misinformation? If anyone were to defund in 2012, it would've come through the Republican House, not Obama. Obama had probably changed conditions to TANF due to the hampered recovery of the great recession(ha)from the obstruction from the right, not to mention the unemployment rate at that time. Let us all give them a BIG thank you for that...good job.
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Sep 10, 2017 08:07:26   #
SinnieK wrote:
It sounds just like new kid around the block had been brainwashed and lied to with rewritten history to fit the g*******ts narrative. Go back to the real history from 1773 or 1774 if you want to learn real history.



You're avoiding(ignoring) what I said, why...because you don't want to acknowledge the t***h of the parties changing. Newsflash nothing remains the same, want proof, take a look at every amendment we've made. The parties have changed...period, go take an American political history class. In respect to what we're talking about reading the history of 1773-74 is pointless.
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Sep 10, 2017 07:54:59   #
plainlogic wrote:
History is a guide for corrections. Laws have been made in military as well as civil. What we have going here is: political motives to achieve a progressive move towards SOCIALISM. The liberals use wh**ever it takes to achieve that agenda, they have spent mucho bucks $$$ to manipulate people to do felonious r**ts and acts of violence.


Show me where it was socialism that caused unrest, and not the dictatorship it was under. Your post is first untrue, second, your comment of liberals doing wh**ever it takes to achieve their goal is not only false but completely over exaggerated. What are these socialistic goals, where are they against our democracy, and "force" their political agenda upon anyone,? Go ahead show me...If you want to see bucks manipulate people with felonious acts, look at your own party before you throw your counterfeit mantra.
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Sep 9, 2017 21:35:33   #
SinnieK wrote:
It is not just with Muslim it is the same with the democrats. Republicans were the one who freed s***ery and yet b****s follow and v**e for democrats, go figure.


Go figure? You obviously haven't been able to do that yet concerning the history of political parties, maybe try and do some research, aah forget it, you'll just deny the t***h and facts.
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Sep 9, 2017 11:15:41   #
son of witless wrote:
Well I admit that my posting was campaign rhetoric, however lets us get into specifics. I intensely dislike generalizations, which seem to be what we on OPP like to get into. So how about President Obama's talk about banning Lobbyists from his Administration. He cannot blame that one on Congress. My boy Donald can blame his unbuilt wall on them.

Anyway Obama had total control over whether he kept his campaign promises not to hire lobbyists. I can find numerous articles where President Obama violated his own lobbyist rule. I have intentionally picked one from an Obama friendly source.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-promised-to-curb-the-influence-of-lobbyists-has-he-succeeded/2015/03/22/e9ec766e-ab03-11e4-abe8-e1ef60ca26de_story.html?utm_term=.496cb0feb9cf

Now that wasn't so hard. I could get used to not being insulting.
Well I admit that my posting was campaign rhetoric... (show quote)



I'm a defensive player, insults are only thrown back and only on occasion.
I am disappointed more hadn't been done with lobbyists but Obama did issue two executive orders and three p**********l directives that included strict limits on the of work former lobbyists would be able to do. if they are still in place I would have to look into it.

Obama had been disappointing in some ways while he was also constantly undermined, I believe these are the same sentiments from Trump supporters, maybe the third time is the charm and someone worthy will come forward to sew the country together again, that is what I hope.
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Sep 9, 2017 10:10:04   #
bdamage wrote:
I believe he needs to spin the Al wheel....




You've posted this already, you must really like it. The ironic thing is it only shows all that the deniers have denied, good job.
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Sep 9, 2017 10:08:21   #
Super Dave wrote:
LOL... .






Being "right" means being a 'denier'
Can't argue with that...
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Sep 9, 2017 10:00:52   #
lindajoy wrote:
It is a bit ironic coupled with the renewed fears of Turkey Point all over again... which is more deadly, son???

I have friends there, one living in Key West.. She told me she left her home late Wednesday and by yesterday had only reached Gainesville because of the traffic and number of gas stations out of gas.. She watched gas trucks passing under escort of the National Guard and worried she wouldn't find gas...

I hope she finally got into Ga hoping to have better results in traffic and gas availability..
Is we see there may be a different path but with the size of this monster the whole state will get it in some capacity..

I just pray they get out of there and are safe!!!

As for the l*****t well you know, never let a great story go to waste when claiming c*****e c****e....

What they fail to see is how utterly preposterous they look when typing such garbage... I mean I read it and go how damn dumb are these people??? And then laugh...
It is a bit ironic coupled with the renewed fears ... (show quote)



Dumb is the comment made by Lindajoy, or dumb is the comment from the right on how much better the earth will be with more CO2 in the atmosphere, dumb is the denial from the right over the physical and factual changes that have been taking place and have been progressing more often and severely every year. Dumb is not implementing industrial changes, now. Dumb is allowing other countries to develop and produce other sources in energy while we get left behind as the dinosaurs the right wishes to keep us as, (still feeding the oil racketeers),you do know what happened to them correct?

This debate is over, the only question at this point needs to be, How to get it done...
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Sep 9, 2017 09:41:36   #
son of witless wrote:
Well I certainly qualify as an Obama h**er. The problem is that I can't sit through an entire speech of politicians that I like. To sit through a speech of somebody I h**e just is not going to happen. I can endure 5 minute clips of anyone. Now this next video is admittedly over the top in that it lists examples of Candidate and President Obama lying and many of the lies are mere regurgitations of previous lies already listed, it is a good representation of how I view the man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg9m1F8B2_c

I think there is a similarity with Trump in that both men are speaking to their bases who are hearing what they want to hear. I often marvel how various people viewing the same P**********l speeches can have such different impressions.

I expect you have as strong emotions as I have on these matters although of course we differ on the cause. I will try my best to be civil as I have hoped for a long time that someone on your side would return the courtesy.
Well I certainly qualify as an Obama h**er. The pr... (show quote)




Lets be a little more realistic, a campaign speech, really, shall we comb through all the candidate's of past presidents on champagne speeches, as Bush's historic"read my lips... no new taxes". I'm not taking the time to research each little champagne promise that didn't happen, my God man.

How many of those things did he try to do? He, like Trump, had high aspirations but ounce in the house had to come to terms to the reality and how the games are really played.

The key in my mind is not the president but it is our representatives, they are the true engine for change, and as someone had posted where I was researching, it matters little after the bill is passed, let's get it up before it is passed to have a true dialog with the people, now that would be something...but would they listen or ignore us?

I also think posted records of promises not met from their previous terms be published before their ree******n, that of course would be the responsibility of someone to collect that information in each district, something we can pass forward and spread the word. Our representatives are either our strongest links or weakest for our governing the way we wish it to be.

I welcome any civilized non-insulting dialog.
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Sep 8, 2017 19:31:13   #
son of witless wrote:
Obama is one of those who believes the ends justify the means. If it takes a lie to move an agenda forward then what is a little lie or a humongous lie for that matter. You have opened up a can of worms. To think that Obama believed what he said about the results of Obamacare strains credulity. There are a whole lot other misstatements he made that I cannot believe were honest mistakes. I will be listing them shortly and I want you to tell me how on earth they could be honest mistakes.


The t***h here varies greatly by ones interpretation. I have wanted to have an opportunity to sit with an Obama h**er during one of his speeches and ask, time after time after a pause..."Ok what do you think he was just saying there?"
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Sep 8, 2017 16:52:00   #
Super Dave wrote:
The climate alarmists don't allways use raw data. They alter the data to compensate for alleged inaccuracies. In at least 2 cases they destroyed the original data, which is anti-science.




More hearsay and unsubstantiated accusations. It's always about planting doubt in the publics mind, why do you think they do that Dave?
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Sep 8, 2017 16:32:58   #
straightUp wrote:
That's always a good question... Some deniers are indeed being obtuse on purpose while other's are truly fooled. It's really hard to tell which is which.


Hey Straight, nice to have another person with reason join the party... it's been blast for nick and I LOL
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