All of the whining, crying and yapping by teatards about the ACA, should be directed to those who can participate in and cause fraud. No wondr so many doctors won't publish their prices, and why they ALWAYS OVERBILL for any treatment they render. They overbill insurance companies and the government, all the while screaming that they don't get paid enough. Make all payments from the government public. This should be something that even teatards can support.


http://dailycaller.com/2011/03/02/bipartisan-senate-duo-wants-medicare-to-make-payments-to-doctors-public/

There is no doubt about that at all. It's a matter of time and 60% unemployment will result from it. That will be the time that you will need to help your neighbor and family and work together as a community to get through. Did you read my post at the top of page 6? There are other factions involved all working together for the same agenda. If one is confronted and meets it's demise, there are others that will keep their socialistic agendas going. Organized religion, the drug, oil and financial industries are only but a few that are involved. They want a crisis to come to create chaos so it gives them a reason to set up martial law to instill total control over the masses. They will get that if people resort to violence. That is why all of our efforts will have to be dome peacefully even if those in power try to provoke violence like they did with the Wall street protesters when they sprayed them with pepper spray without any provocation from the protesters. They wanted the people to r**t to squash them and blame the people for it.

Someone needs to. I am waiting to find others that want to actively and are brave enough to put it on the line to start movements in a peaceful manner over violence. Violence as a last resort in defense only. I would like to be a part of a movement that helps humanity move forward. The big money greedy few that think they are better than the rest because they have money and power will destroy humanity and are the biggest hypocrates in human history. If they succeed in their socialistic goals, it will only last for so long. That's because history shows again and again that revolts will inevitably arise and they will fall again. They do not learn from the past and that is just sad and insulting of the human race and intellect.

I'll respectively disagree. You are pointing out global governmental agencies that serve only as puppets. The people pulling the strings have, and will always be, those with the money. This has been true ever since the founding of this country and the purchasing of Hessians for use in the Revolutionary War. Our current situation mimics the gilded age with robber barons having it all and the remaining populace with very little. And when the populace gets angry, they go looking for heads to chop. Just ask any Frenchman what February 22, 1787 means. It was the beginning of the end when the First Assembly of Notables met. The only difference today is that instead of unique country by country problems, we are now a global economy run by global conglomerates. The owners (the rich), simply adjust by moving themselves (and their businesses) to wherever the most favorable government exists. The problem today in this country is that we have an unfair tax code that favors the wealthy with preferred tax treatment while everyone else toils away in a slowly bleeding spiral downward. And until this is corrected, all of those items listed in the beginning of your discourse will continue to fester...until it goes boom. And if history is any guide, there will indeed be a very big boom.

I think he is referring to those of us that put long posts on, but I agree with you. I was hoping to find people on here that want to take an active role in solving the issues our government has created in our country. Instead I find that most on this forum are addicted to drama and love pointing fingers instead of doing something about it. Others post sites with great information, but still have no suggestions as how to resolve the issues we are facing. Bottom line is; If anything needs to get done, it has to be WE THE PEOPLE to do it.

One suggestion here for the ammo shortage; for those of us that are for the 2nd amendment should sell or trade our scrap brass and copper to the ammo manufacturers. Trade our scrap for ammo seems to be one logical solution.

What do all past government systems have in common? They have failed. What do all existing governments have in common? They too will fail. The very nature of man is to corrupt for personal gain, and this corruption, radiating from people in positions of power, takes its toll on the systems of government. This is a cumulative effect, and when it reaches a critical point, the system fails. The result is usually revolution, secession, or occupation, but regardless, it is a failed system. From the vacuum comes a replacement; dictatorship, republic, democracy or something else new and shiny. During this t***sition, war and other hardships are commonplace. So when a person comes into power who is progressive, and can motivate the rest of the government to “move forward”, where then are they moving towards? Would it not be better for a politician to leave the government system in the same condition that he entered it, if longevity is our goal? This is hard to do when there are unforeseen issues that must be addressed, but every post it note and splash of whiteout on a system’s law compromises said system.

Do not think that the United States of America is immune to this. Although we are one of the oldest living governments, we are still heading in the natural direction of ruin. People are too divided to stop it from happening, and it takes a wake up moment after it fails when we put aside our differences and pick ourselves up. Don’t get me wrong, the US has had a great run. So if prevention is not possible, the question we need to ask ourselves is what do we want to put in its place?

What should the government be responsible for and what are the government’s limits? How should we structure the government? What has failed in our current system that should be addressed and how can we prevent it from happening in the new system? Security and liberty are mutually exclusive, so which do we value more? Can a system be created that will endure, or are we doomed to continuously repeat this cycle every two to three hundred years, suffering the fallout of yet another failed system?

I want to hear a few responses before I respond to the same questions. Let’s keep partisan politics out of the discussion and approach this objectively, mindful that this is what we will be handing to our children, and to their children after them.

Nice little 3rd grade story, Floyd. Did you make that up all by yourself? Is that what you got from reading what runzwsissors wrote. I don't think you are as stupid, as you pretend to be. Indeed, I think you are just another libtard troll, screwing with the adults in the room. FYI the money changers in this country are the Federal Reserve, who are about as federal as FedEx and started by the Progressives, under President Woodrow Wilson in 1921 and the reason for the Great Depression in 1929 and we are witnessing a repeat performance, now. I would not call them Capitalist. I would call them robber barons, that use wh**ever system is available to exploit. Free markets are what made this country great and raised the standard of living for all of us.

I'm middle too, Floyd, so let me just say kudos for being willing to argue both sides, as it is not always easy to do. Now regarding greed. Greed is, unfortunately, the fuel for the free market economy. It is greed that motivates people to risk their money to try and make a profit. Without it, there would be no businesses. To you and I, 53 million is far too much to spend on a car. But I want this person to make as much money as possible and can you guess why? Because in order to make himself money, he has to employ people, buy raw materials, and provide the public with a good or service. I will not stop this man from making money, unless his doing so has directly conflicted with the right of another individual and c***ted him through force or fraud. At that point, the hammer needs to come down hard. So aside from monitoring his activities, the government should leave that guy to be greedy, and fuel our economy. You and I can stand to live in a better place as a result. ;)

I'm middle too, Floyd, so let me just say kudos for being willing to argue both sides, as it is not always easy to do. Now regarding greed. Greed is, unfortunately, the fuel for the free market economy. It is greed that motivates people to risk their money to try and make a profit. Without it, there would be no businesses. To you and I, 53 million is far too much to spend on a car. But I want this person to make as much money as possible and can you guess why? Because in order to make himself money, he has to employ people, buy raw materials, and provide the public with a good or service. I will not stop this man from making money, unless his doing so has directly conflicted with the right of another individual and c***ted him through force or fraud. At that point, the hammer needs to come down hard. So aside from monitoring his activities, the government should leave that guy to be greedy, and fuel our economy. You and I can stand to live in a better place as a result. ;)