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Apr 11, 2020 13:55:02   #
American Vet wrote:
14 May 2018

The Center for Disease Control has spent money on left-leaning advocacy in the past. In fact, that’s one of the reasons that the organization is limited in what kind of research they can perform on firearm control in the United States; they spent taxpayer money in the 90’s writing advocacy pieces, not scientific research, pushing left-wing propaganda.

Republican Ron Bassilian, who is currently running for a Congressional seat in California, is a reformed democrat. He discovered recently that the CDC diverted $3 million dollars to a far-left group which advocated for democrat candidates and Obama-backed legislation. That is NOT the intended purpose of CDC funding.

http://conservativedailypost.com/cdc-channeled-3-million-to-far-left-groups/
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/21/steve-bannon-plans-foundation-to-fuel-far-right-in-europe

Steve Bannon has announced plans to establish a foundation in Europe that he hopes will fuel the spread of rightwing populism across the continent.

Donald Trump’s former chief advisor in the White House told the Daily Beast that he wanted to offer a rightwing alternative to George Soros’s Open Society Foundation, which has given away $32bn to largely liberal causes since it was established in 1984.

“Soros is brilliant,” Bannon told the website. “He’s evil, but he’s brilliant.”

The foundation, which Bannon said would be called The Movement, will offer polling, advice on messaging and data targeting and research to a network of rightwing parties across Europe that are enjoying a significant surge in support.


Bannon has met rightwing politicians across the continent in the past 12 months, including Ukip’s former leader, Nigel Farage, members of Marine Le Pen’s Rassemblement National in France and Hungary’s Viktor Orbán.

He told the Daily Beast that he envisioned a “supergroup” within the European parliament that could supply as many as a third of MEPs after next May’s Europe-wide e******ns. He also said he planned to spend half of his time in Europe once the US midterm e******ns are over in November.
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Apr 11, 2020 13:52:29   #
son of witless wrote:
https://pulpitandpen.org/2020/04/10/republican-governor-condemns-police-and-mayor-that-fined-churches-500-you-are-going-to-have-mississippians-revolt/

This is why Liberals can never be trusted with power. Never !


Every time you or anyone else gets a court summons for violating the speed limit you should act the same way.

Just because the president isn't smart enough to tell the difference between a "reality" TV show and reality doesn't mean he's above the law. Nor is any citizen.
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Apr 11, 2020 13:49:44   #
factnotfiction wrote:
Just the other day, trump was blaming the demise of the postal system on Amazon and other bulk shippers for using the post office to deliver where they can'/won't.

And as always, the trump congress critters jumped on the bandwagon and refuse to entertain any thought of bailing out the post office

And here is an interesting article reflecting that

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There are two big stories this week about a subject that normally sounds painfully boring: the mail. Each is crucially important in its own right, but combined, they presage a nearly apocalyptic threat to American democracy.

The first is that the Donald Trump and Republican Party are engaged in an all-out war against the expansion of mail-in v****g in the era of C****-**. The flimsy outward justification is concern about v***r f***d, but of course, there is no evidence of significant v***r f***d surrounding mail b****ts. In fact, the only major scandal in the modern era around mail-in v****g was a corrupt scheme by Republicans in North Carolina—one that was quickly and easily discovered. Republicans aren’t exactly shy about why they want to restrict the expansion of access to mail v****g: they think that the more people are allowed to v**e, the better Democrats will do against them. It certainly doesn’t hurt that Republicans are far less concerned about the v***s than are Democrats, and that in battleground states with Republican legislatures like Wisconsin, there are far more polling places per capita in red districts than blue ones, which means not only longer lines but more dangerous crowding at polling places. It only adds to the Republican turnout advantage if most people have to v**e in person.

The opposition to mail v****g is amusing given that it has traditionally been advantageous to Republicans, and even now doesn’t much benefit one party or the other. But facing e*******l calamity after four years of Trump, plus a disastrous epidemic response and looming recession, Republicans clearly feel their best shot at keeping power is if as few people are allowed to safely v**e as possible. It’s a fundamentally immoral stance at odds with the principles of democracy itself. Unfortunately, taking self-serving positions contrary to values of basic decency is a hallmark of Republicanism under Donald Trump. It’s not a bug; it’s a feature.

The second story involves the Post Office itself. The United States Postal Service is set to run out of money by September. The previous round of emergency c****av***s aid did not take the long-beleaguered Postal Service into account. Conservative policymakers have been eyeing the USPS with hungry privatizing chops for a long time, and have been hamstringing it with ridiculous provisions like forcing the USPS to take into account 50 years of pension payments in advance in its budget, which no other corporation or public agency has to do.

Donald Trump loves to talk about what a “great American company” FedEx is, and conservatives would love to eliminate the postal service and give all of its operations to private shipping companies and private equity. Of course, long gone would be the days of sending a letter from coast to coast in a few days for a fraction of a dollar, but since when was that sort of thing a concern for Republicans? It’s just like with libraries. If the Postal Service didn’t already exist and you proposed it, it would be considered a ridiculous and wasteful socialist fantasy. In the modern era, Republicans would make sure it never came into being. Mainstream Democrats would means-test it so that everyone would have to fill out tax statements in triplicate to make sure that no one making over a certain amount got a free mailbox.

Are these two stories merely a coincidence? Perhaps. It is possible that just as Republicans are attempting to thwart v**e-by-mail to reduce v**er turnout in a p******c, they also just so happen to be defunding the Postal Service.

But what if it’s not? What if the plan is an explicit attempt to cripple the mail system itself as yet another argument against mail-in v****g, providing them an excuse to force people to v**e in person in a p******c or not v**e at all? It would be a villainous plot straight out of a James Bond film. But that doesn’t mean it’s not real, especially given the current administration. Even if it’s not intentional, the combined effect of both acts of bad faith would certainly be convenient for deeply unpopular conservatives whose only chance of holding onto ill-gotten power is to thwart democracy itself.

Democrats would do well to act as if they were facing opponents with the depraved moral instincts of a Bond villain, and think proactively. Any future assistance on legislation to Trump and McConnell over the coming year should be predicated on both saving the Postal Service and ensuring access to mail-in v****g across the country. An e******n in which one side is lulled into complacency about a p******c and has lots of polling places available, while the other is rightfully concerned for the public good and being crushed by long lines and crowded locations, is no true e******n at all. It’s a mockery of democracy and cannot be allowed to stand.
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Article I, Section 8, Clause 7 of the United States Constitution, known as the Postal Clause or the Postal Power, empowers Congress "To establish Post Offices and Post Roads".

....yea, let them try, it's in the Constitution...
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Apr 11, 2020 13:47:23   #
factnotfiction wrote:
Since religions is just business, small, medium, and large, should the churches, temples, mosques, and temples, be included in the current government handout/bailout programs?

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Empty pews, empty collection baskets: c****av***s hits U.S. church finances
Michelle Conlin
6 MIN READ

NEW YORK (Reuters) - St. Anselm Roman Catholic Church in New York’s Brooklyn borough is used to limping along, month after month, at a budget deficit of several thousand dollars a week.

A man prays outside the closed Saint Anselm Church during the outbreak of c****av***s disease (C****-**) in the Brooklyn borough of New York, U.S., April 10, 2020. REUTERS/Caitlin Ochs
But the church that sits in the city that is the epicenter of the U.S. c****av***s p******c could always count on Easter. Last year, its Easter pew collection brought in $11,651. That was more than twice an average Sunday and, coupled with the church’s online Easter donations of $2,500, enough to cover its weekly operating expenses of $13,000, according to church records.

Like most churches around the United States, St. Anselm’s will be closed on Sunday, its members unable to gather and its priests unable to meet with them as the nation endures its worst public-health crisis in a century.

But just as American churches have been unable to meet their members’ spiritual needs — perhaps most painfully represented in the absence of public funerals for the thousands who have died — they also have faced their own unmet needs in the form of untouched collection baskets.

“We are in uncharted waters, financially,” said John Quaglione, a St. Anselm’s parishioner who is also a spokesman for the Roman Catholic Diocese of Brooklyn. “There will be some serious conversations and some strong conversations with the parishes and the economic folks to help get us through this.”

Easter Sunday is one of the biggest donation days of the year for U.S. churches, due largely to the spikes in attendance they typically see, according to church officials and nonprofit groups.

Even before health guidance shuttered most U.S. churches, many were struggling financially. Just half of Americans reported belonging to a church, synagogue or mosque in 2018, according to Gallup polling, down from 70% two decades earlier. Those who attend services go more erratically, according to the Pew Research Center, leaving fewer people to fill collection baskets.

The high cost of maintaining older church buildings and — particularly for the Catholic church, legal costs related to the clergy sex abuse scandal — have also taken a toll on churches in the United States and around the world.

“This is the first time where we have this almost national shutdown of churches,” said John Berardino, president of Fredericksburg, Virginia-based Griffin Capital Funding, which specializes in church real estate loans. He said he believed the extended shutdowns would take a heavy financial toll on about half of U.S. churches.

Scott McConnell, executive director of Nashville, Tennessee-based LifeWay Research, which conducts surveys and research for Christian ministries, sounded a similar note.

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“It would not surprise me at all if 5% of churches close over the next year,” McConnell said.

That is five times the typical annual closure rate estimated by The Christian Century, a U.S. mainline Protestant magazine.

Most American churches do not have sizeable endowments. According to LifeWay, 26% of churches have seven weeks or less of operating income. An additional quarter only have enough to last eight to 15 weeks.

“Churches at the end of their life cycle are going to be at the brink” during the c****av***s crisis, said McConnell.

The pain of the closures is not just fiscal.

After announcing a sweeping list of cancellations, Bishop Charles Blake of the Church of God in Christ, the largest U.S. Pentecostal denomination, expressed regret at their necessity.

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“While the fellowship with one another is priceless, your safety is most important to us,” Blake said, adding, “stay at home.”

FIRST BANKRUPTCY, THEN THE V***S
Three years ago, the Mount Calvary Pentecostal Church in Youngstown, Ohio, which had been a pillar of its community since its founding in 1918, the year of the Spanish Flu, faced the “perfect storm,” said the church’s bankruptcy attorney, Andrew Suhar.

“Shrinking population, shrinking congregation and shrinking donations,” Suhar said.

The Church filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection and began to work with its major lender, the Christian Community Credit Union, to reorganize. In 2018, the church emerged successfully from bankruptcy with a new solvency plan, which was on the way to putting the church’s balance sheet back in order — until C****-** emerged.

“They had worked so hard and done such a good job,” said the church’s legal counsel, Matthew Blair. “Now, with C****-**, there is no church attendance ... Revenue is nonexistent.”

Mount Calvary’s pastor declined to be interviewed.

Many churches are turning to their online donation portals for help, but those typically lag what funnels into church coffers from passed donation plates during Sunday services.

“Many churches are still run by older people ... they may not be as technically savvy,” said Berardino, of Griffin.

He noted that religious organizations and lenders had successfully lobbied lawmakers to include church personnel in the list of American workers offered support by the $2.3 trillion c****av***s relief package passed by Congress last month. Churches will also be eligible for the administration’s stimulus package small business loans.

Reporting by Michelle Conlin in New York; Editing by Scott Malone and Daniel Wallis
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How the CARES Act Works for Churches
Churches, along with other non-profit entities, have explicitly been declared eligible for the Paycheck Protection Program. This is designed to enable small businesses–and, yes, congregations are classified that way for the purpose of the program–to keep giving their employees a paycheck, even though they cannot come to work and even though the company is not bringing in its usual revenue due to the c****av***s epidemic. They can also get money to pay for facility costs and utilities.

This comes in the form of a loan, but the loan used for these purposes will be “forgiven.” That is, it does not have to be repaid. The money comes from a lender, which makes it quicker to receive, but the government will fully reimburse that lender. It is possible to get larger loans for other purposes at a low rate of .5%, but loans for payroll and facilities are actually a grant.

Congregations that cannot hold corporate worship services cannot pass the offering plate. So many are finding themselves in dire financial straits. There is not enough money to pay the pastor or the church secretary, and the mortgage payment for the building is due. If that happens to your congregation, the government is willing to bail you out.

Cheryl Magness has written an excellent article for the Lutheran Reporter, explaining exactly how the program applies to churches and how congregations can apply for this money. Basically, you fill out a form, which you can get here. Then go to a regular lender approved for Small Business Administration loans. Not all of them are, but your local bank may well qualify.

But Should Churches Take the Money?
So that’s how the government bailout for churches works. The bigger question, though, is, should a congregation take this money from the government?

First of all, it shouldn’t need to, if members would keep up their giving as they did before the c****av***s hit. Friends, just because you can’t attend corporate worship, just because worship has moved online, you still need to keep giving your tithes and offerings! Don’t forget that!

But what if that doesn’t happen? My own view is that congregations should take the money. They should do that rather than cutting their pastor’s salary or laying off other staff or missing a payment on the mortgage. Not paying someone what they are owed is more problematic morally than taking money from the state.


A congregation is a spiritual entity, but insofar as it exists physically, handles money, owns property, and is a legally-incorporated body under the laws of the state, it is also a temporal institution, part of God’s Kingdom of the Left.
As such, a local congregation should be entitled to the same benefits as any other corporate entity–such as secular non-profit organizations and small businesses–in the state.

If strings are attached to those benefits, it’s another story. But the Paycheck Protection Program attaches no strings, to the point of including a clear Religious Liberty statement exempting religious institutions from federal anti-discrimination statutes that are often used against Christian teachings regarding sexual morality.

There is certainly plenty of precedent for the state to support churches, as is the practice in Europe. For centuries, this was the norm for Lutheran churches, including in Luther’s day. The United States, though, has laws separating church and state, though sometimes, arguably, they are taken further than they need to be. One could reasonably ask why tax money should go to a church. But that assumes the bailout is funded by taxes, whereas, given the deficit spending, it is actually money created by government fiat.

Consider this: Taking government money is against our principles. Not paying our pastor violates a clear command from God (1 Tim 5: 17-18). There are times when we may have to sacrifice our principles, valid though they be, to avoid an outright sin.

So I say, if your congregation has to, take the money. I may be wrong, though. In fact, I feel uncomfortable with my own advice. So feel free to correct me if you think I’m wrong.

I do agree that churches should be supported by their members. If the government prevents that from happening, it’s right for the government to make up the difference. And yet, churches are not businesses selling goods or services to their customers. Members of a church are not customers. Rather, they constitute that church. So members, no matter what the c****av***s does, keep giving to your church. Doing so would make this issue a moot point.
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Apr 11, 2020 09:38:45   #
MR Mister wrote:
President Trump chose life at every turn in the war against the v***s and that's a good thing

http://dailytorch.com/2020/04/president-trump-chose-life-at-every-turn-in-the-war-against- the-v***s-and-thats-a-good-thing/

At some point early in the Chinese c****av***s p******c, President Donald Trump had a choice to make. Jan. 20, was when China finally confirmed human-to-human t***smission, more than a month after the outbreak began. At that point, high mortality rates were not yet on the radar. But on Jan. 24, China would lock down W***n and the surrounding region.


A day later, on Jan. 25, the first doctor to treat the v***s and who tried to warn the world about it died from it in China, raising international awareness. That was the seminal moment that told both the public and world leaders two very important things: 1) this v***s is much worse than was realized, and 2) that was because China was lying about it.


On Jan. 29, the President appointed the White House c****av***s task force. The State Department was already evacuating people from W***n. At that point, only a few hundred people had died in China. On Jan. 31, he suspended all travel from China. Now we know those early calls were critical and bought America time, enough time to get ready for the worst of the storm that we are now in.


By March 13, President Trump had declared a national emergency and deregulated the FDA approval process so we'd have some way to treat the v***s and might help us lessen its severity. States followed in short order with canceling schools, with the stay at home orders coming thereafter. At every turn, President Trump chose life, acted decisively and has led the country through this emergency and the American people, by and large, have followed his leadership. And that's a good thing.
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How does it feel to be Trumps PR mop bucket brigade...

....do you show his predilection for draft dodging, since that appears to be his chief genetic deficit.
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Apr 11, 2020 09:34:31   #
eagleye13 wrote:
P******c or DemPanic?
http://republicbroadcasting.org/category/columnists/

By Je suis Spike for RBN


The Democrat Party is most certainly in a panic. They’ve been unable to oust President Trump from his office or drive his popularity down among those who v**ed for him. They are staring into e*******l abyss with reverse coattails with the Joe Biden campaign apparently winning the Democratic nomination for President. Do not be shocked if, though he wins the nomination, Joe Biden is not the actual candidate of the Democrat Party in November this year.

The Deep State and virtually the whole of the Democratic Party, being merely a subset of the Deep State, have tried very hard to harm President Trump’s ability to preside for these last three years and also to prevail in 2020. Every listener to RBN radio and reader of RepublicBroadcasting.Org is quite aware of this continuing smear campaign against the President by people who are in government to usurp the people instead of serve the people. It’s as though the elected say to the American people, “you serve, we rule.”

We’ve seen a ridiculous, baseless investigation into Donald Trump after a Democrat Opposition Research Dossier was fed to the FBI as though it was a legitimate allegation of wrongdoing on Trump’s part; in particular, he was accused of conspiring with Putin and/or Russia to help him win his e******n (against Hillary!) in 2016.

Then there was the ridiculous impeachment of President Trump, the charges so bogus as to be unworthy of being repeated here. Of course both of those two attempts have failed.

Knowing that the impeachment would fail in the attempt to remove the President by supermajority v**e in the Senate, the Democrat Party was hoping to have some fodder for their campaign commercials. Of course, what they still have not figured out is that Donald Trump, while better than most Presidents of recent years, is mostly a response to Democrat fecklessness, corruption and the American people’s realization that the Democrats have only two constituencies among Americans, the super-rich with whom they practice back and forth largesse with taxpayer money and those whom they’ve made dependent. (Of course the Democrats have constituencies outside of America, too: See the logical progeny of Charlie Trie and John Huang and others who benefit by trade practices and one-sided trade agreements that harm working Americans which drove manufacturing and good-paying jobs out of America.) Working Americans pretty much v**e for Trump while the Democrats kick them and call them h**eful because they believe that there are only two g****rs, that Americans, for all of our faults, are rather fair, generous and respectful of others, though unwilling to be forced to ratify lifestyles which not too long ago kept quiet.

All the while, the Mockingbird Media (MM) has trumped up one false accusation after another or otherwise attempted to inflame Americans with breathless reporting about one thing or another that the President did or failed to do which the MM hoped would drive down the President’s approval numbers as we approach what until recently was the all-but-certain ree******n he would win in 2020. (See reporting by one of the bravest human beings on the planet, Sharyl Atkisson, for a sample of the malfeasance of journalism that plagues the President and America.)

Then along came the c****a v***s– which I prefer by an inquisitive anagram: v***s or a con?– to use to pound the American people into dust. And dust we are becoming, as Governor after Governor responds to the unhinged F***i and his band of Deep State cohorts who are using the v***s as an excuse to do everything possible to teach the American people to never v**e for someone other than a Deep State toady again. They would literally destroy America and impoverish all Americans before allowing Trump to win again. You must understand who these people are and what they are. They are completely without empathy or sympathy for the people. You see, they’ve controlled a multi-trillion dollar corporation for years now, with franchises (military bases) around the world and they are not going to give it up. Their love of money has driven them to engage in commerce which has led them to extreme violence, (see Ezekiel28:16). Evil? Yes, they support unborn babies being shredded to death inside their mother’s wombs. Can you get more evil?

Many State Governors are using executive power, (not just power, meaning legitimate power, which is only by consent of the governed), to stop people from using beaches, parks and other outdoor venues to do the one thing they can do to help themselves battle a v***s, get some fresh air and sunshine. Some Governors are even forbidding people gathering to worship God. Of course, the Constitution says that Congress shall make no law regarding an establishment* of religion. While said to be a right that we have- to worship- the Constitution didn’t say out of control, pants-wetting, wannabe tyrant Governors couldn’t curb your right to worship in a manner consistent with the dictates of your conscience. Also, many of these Governors have delayed e******ns for their pals and/or themselves, just like the Democrats have always said Trump would do because “Trump is literally Hitler.” Where is the condemnation in the press for that?

So we have a government that has shut down the livelihood of many Americans who are about to be impoverished, and has fomented fear such that many people’s hearts will fail them for fear. Who will be held responsible?

I don’t see this ending except in any of three ways: Americans, never to regain what we once were, and then completely under the thumb of tyrants; Americans, “set free” briefly at the behest of President Trump, only to suffer the release of a truly harmful agent, Trump being blamed for the resulting mayhem; America throwing off tyrants and re-establishing the appearance of a republic which we most recently have had, though not an actual republic. Well there is a fourth, but I don’t have to write it, you know what it is.


God blessed America,

Je suis Spike
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Pure hillarillity
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Apr 11, 2020 08:11:42   #
ACP45 wrote:
"It turns out a person with Stage 4 lung cancer and a bullet through the heart will be counted as a “c****av***s death” if he also tested positive for the disease, OR merely exhibited symptoms associated with it (symptoms that are coextensive with the flu and pneumonia)." As Ann Coulter sarcastically puts it!

[March 24 CDC memo from Steven Schwartz, director of the Division of Vital Statistics for the National Center for Health Statistics, titled “C****-** Alert No. 2.”]


I don't want to get into a long winded conversation but I found a similar problem in my own community in that the DEA spreads fear and fears about drug p******cs in communities that are often hidden or in fact result in other diagnosis, such organ failure or heart failure. If this patient was being treated for the other problems having the v***s didn't help nor is being a drug addict a direct cause of death, but sure doesn't help.

....But please keep passing along these tender and humorous stories of suffering....really brightens up my day.
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Apr 11, 2020 08:07:04   #
proud republican wrote:
Pretty soon after the whole thing is over we would have to present paperwork that we have an immunity to the v***s before being hired to work.....it's like being here illegally if you don't have the paperwork for immunity ......should make illegal aliens feel better . .. :
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Well, I for one will never visit a restaurant again, but have it, if you don't want to understand the restaurant or other public venues won't find any workers or people unless they are as careless and foolish as yourself.
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Apr 11, 2020 08:04:20   #
proud republican wrote:
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/10/ron-johnson-urges-trump-to-take-action-on-hydroxychloroquine-179230


Correlation is not causation.

You suffer from confirmation bias.
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Apr 11, 2020 08:02:29   #
American Vet wrote:
Mississippi’s Governor encouraged churches not to hold services in person to combat the c****av***s, but he refused to ban them from doing so, saying, “Mississippi is not China, and never will be.” But someone needs to get that message to Greenville’s Democrat Mayor Errick Simmons, who not only ordered churches closed, he even banned drive-in services.

Last Sunday, members of Temple Baptist Church gathered in about 25 cars in the church parking lot to listen to pastor Arthur Scott preaching over the radio. Police came and handed $500 tickets to each driver, even though they were all inside separate closed cars. The only time they violated “social distancing” was when they had to roll down their windows to take the tickets from the cops.

Once again, it’s very instructive to see how quickly tolerant, compassionate liberals turn into ironfisted authoritarians when given just a little power. It’s yet another reason why you should never believe the claim that socialism would work great, it’s just that the “right people” have never been in charge of it. If you even want to be in charge of a socialist government, then you’re the wrong people to be in charge of the government.

https://www.mikehuckabee.com/latest-news?id=D06250BE-387F-4714-A438-FB58D3C2E012&s=9UM1
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Why are you so concerned about the power of the president, he is draft dodger you know. When was the last you spent so much energy defending draft dodgers?
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Apr 11, 2020 08:00:35   #
proud republican wrote:
I can understand people not attending church or temple services because of c****av***s ' s Social Distancing , but what is wrong attending church services or for that matter any services in your cars???Why can't you listen to your pastor while sitting in the safety of your own car?? This pastor is suing government just for that... And I say Good for him!

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/10/mississippi-church-sue-city-government-crackdown-d/


Wow, guess they gave up on prayer and hope. Go ahead waste those tithes on defending your right to die.
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Apr 11, 2020 07:56:21   #
American Vet wrote:
Flu Outbreak Plagues California With 16 New Deaths
The flu season ramped up over the holidays and continues to cause sicken thousands up and down the state.
By Paige Austin, Patch Staff

Jan 10, 2020
LOS ANGELES, CA —Sixteen more Californians' deaths from the flu were confirmed in the first week of the New Year as influenza grips the nation.

The spike in flu outbreaks that ended the decade continued to ramp up in 2020 in California and around the nation. So far this flu season, California health officials have identified 19 outbreaks since the start of the flu season on Sept. 29. Through Jan. 4, 70 people have died from the flu statewide, according to state officials.

https://patch.com/california/northhollywood/flu-outbreak-plagues-california-16-news-deaths
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Your point?

Do you know how many people die annually for acute alcohol poisoning or long term abuse?

Maybe you should go to the CDC website and figure out how to use it. Conflating common flu with C***d is a fool's errand.
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Apr 11, 2020 07:51:54   #
American Vet wrote:
From cellphone tracking to drone eyes in the sky, perused health records, and GPS ankle bracelets, an epidemic of surveillance-state measures is spreading across the world. It's all done in the name of battling the spread of C****-**, of course, since every crisis is used to justify incursions into our liberty. But long after the v***s has done its worst and moved on, we're likely to be stuck with these invasions of our privacy—unless we push back, hard.

https://reason.com/2020/04/10/the-surveillance-state-thrives-during-the-p******c/?utm_medium=email
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How cavalier, did you constantly disobey lawful orders?
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Apr 11, 2020 07:43:17   #
How is the fear and hype about Muslims, any different?

How is the president's behavior, dismissive, jokey, any different during any manufactured crisis.

How are we supposed to believe anything?
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Apr 10, 2020 16:12:09   #
Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:
They have been there for a decade or better.......wonder if they will learn from their mistakes after this c***d passes.


I wonder if the south will ever figure out that they lost the civil war...and their statuary honors t*****rs.

Probably not.
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