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Feb 7, 2014 20:11:20   #
UncleJesse wrote:
Excellent point how half the v**e out there is not male and the strings know how to pull on that demographic.


We had a look at what was in store back in 2008.

A black man & a white woman. Was there something extra about that. Did the string pullers favor Obama over Hilary?

Why did the Right put a woman on the b****t? They didn't pick the best one though. Even if the Right finds a good woman to run. Their record on women's rights is weak.

When the strings get pulled the winners know who they have to please. Those in power win no matter. I say that they are trying to say something.

They have given us Lots of angry White men & now a black man & if they have their way a Woman. They will say you can elect who ever we give you to v**e for but we will still get what ever we want.
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Feb 7, 2014 11:28:01   #
UncleJesse wrote:
It's way too early yet. She was a shoe-in back in '06 too. This data, to me, is not good news for her. Sure, Hillary Clinton would be perfect in the position and is really popular now, but as 2016 approaches, she will be stale and difficult to encourage the main street v**e. Main street will be interested in someone new with fresh ideas with a charisma that is opposite of Obama. I remember how she excelled in the primary debates with the best knowledge of domestic and foreign policies. Her knowledge and capability ultimately was second fiddle to the excitement of Barack Obama who had opposed the Iraq war and was passionate yet reserved in other d******e policy. Her best chance is to stay out of it until the last minute - - maybe have a reasonable excuse not to run and then five months before the primary, all of a sudden be available to run for office.
It's way too early yet. She was a shoe-in back in... (show quote)


The powers that pull the strings in this country have come to feel that angry White males have done enough damage to this country & it will be at least one reasonable female in the running for president in 2016.
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Feb 7, 2014 11:06:09   #
Dave wrote:
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...and this shows the depth of your stupidity - not all Republicans are back nor are all Democrats good - but then you've been taught to h**e and you've learned your lesson well.


Well Dave if you wish to see a Republican President You & yours should stop knocking Hilary & get together & give the country someone that could win.

Or will you come to see that who we get to v**e for is chosen
by the media & those that control the media.

Or to put it another way. The winner is the one with the best media coverage.

At this time Hilary has the lead.
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Feb 4, 2014 19:17:18   #
emarine wrote:
Excellent post Mr. Beck... I share many of your views, it seems that emotion is easy and excepting fact is not ... I find that there is a lot of selling or trying to convert going on in the name of take back our country... Its like we have been invaded by a foreign power prepping us for the gas chambers... I find this view too extreme to have any real debate over policy or issues. Then if you factor in the blame game.... we have total divorce of civil discussion... If you just look at the topic headings you will see my point. It seems that many see only the past few years not the last 100+ as moving away from our Constitutional Republic. This extremism has surfaced many times in our past from a review of our history... I ponder this question lately ... are we a just people? do we go to war to help freedom and democracy? or capitalism and profit? or are they one and the same?
Excellent post Mr. Beck... I share many of your vi... (show quote)


One don't have to dig deep or think hard about the issue of going to war for capitalism and profit.
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Feb 4, 2014 19:08:33   #
Btfkr wrote:
huh? glaucon wrote, "If we run out of f****l f**l, we will be in trouble. If we run out of drinking water and air, we are totally screwed. Can you spell extinct?" and fom stated that he had valid points and and, I paraphrase, "all the right has to say about that is we need to run out of liberals as a solution." I gave that a thumbs up to that.

So as far as your comments: I agree that the system is broken. BOTH SIDES HAVE LIED AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO unless something changes. Seems to me that the majority of rightwingers on here place all the blame of "deviancy" (wh**ever you mean by that) on the left and will take no responsibility for the "deviancy" on the right. There are just as many dishonest immoral politicians on the right as on the left. All persons in government need to be held accountable. I do not trust any of the corporate media to give me the t***h, especially FOX. I do not trust corporations or big business to make decisions that effect the good of the country, any more than I trust the government of today. The blending of corporate power with government power is one definition of f*****m. I believe we are there right now. My opinion is that there is a slightly better chance to hold them accountable from the left than from the right. Unfortunately, not all men are angles, nor is government made of angles. It is not a perfect system, but again I personally think there is a better chance of holding our government accountable from the left.
huh? glaucon wrote, "If we run out of f****l... (show quote)


Slim chance at best but a chance at least.
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Feb 4, 2014 01:08:37   #
Ricko wrote:
Mr.Brown/Mr. Beck-What are your views on the XL pipeline ? Do you feel the risks to the environment are offset by the jobs created or is it a toss up?
I was once a strong advocate for the pipeline but from what I have read here and elsewhere it may not be good for America . What do you think ?
Good Luck America !!!


Well I have not given up driving & I will live with any way they have of getting the gas to my area. I don't drive a lot of miles. I have a van I use for work.

The hope I have is that they make what ever they do as safe as they can.
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Feb 3, 2014 19:47:14   #
no1healey wrote:
My father in law is a good ol boy Texan farm boy . He told me about a oil well drilling crew by his cousin about to hit the "gold" . When he saw the crude on the ground he was concerned . His cousin told him to revisit the site next year . The only green grass around.
Lastly with the Soviets claiming the earths mantle reproduces crude in the mantle "naturally " . It is ONLY not told us for availability and price concerns ..
Lastly with published oil reserves in Wyoming at our current level of consumption figured to be 200 years ,I find we are getting a lot of Crude smoke in our faces. So we want to build a pipeline over our Crude oil reserves ? Well ok ?
My father in law is a good ol boy Texan farm boy .... (show quote)


This quote from you is of interest to me.

"Lastly with the Soviets claiming the earths mantle reproduces crude in the mantle "naturally "

Some where I have hear mention of this issue before.

Who really knows & if they do. Why would they want to share it with others.
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Feb 3, 2014 19:26:47   #
Weyner wrote:
They are all T*****RS to the UNITED STATES of AMERICA,its time to get rid of the whole damn bunch,they are trying to ruin our Country and our FREEDOM! WAKE the HELL UP AMERICA
WE are in trouble,lets take our country back,NOW


If one was to truly get to the bottom of this issue I feel that much of this stuff comes from powerful people that stay out of the Lime Light.

While we sit & argue with each other They find some to stir us up & others to do the things they want done.
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Feb 3, 2014 19:19:36   #
George Beck wrote:
I'm going to propose an idea to those of you on here who are legitimate and would actually like to have intelligent discussion with intelligent people, despite their political affiliation.

There is a certain new (within the last few years) despicable breed of U.S. Constitution hating vermin, that lurks the forums, comment threads of articles, movie and book reviews, etc., whose sole intention is to stir up emotional fervor, block rational discussion, and more generally, spread deceit.

Google "astroturf internet" for an abundant discussion and list of resources on this, or wade through the above stated outlets on your own for firsthand examples.

A successful day for them is to muddy the waters of dialogue and never let logic pervade. When fact becomes blurred, it only feeds the agenda of the ones who intentionally blur.

How to spot this? Here is a simple formula: If a review or comment is emotionally charged, mudslinging and lacking real discussion of actual issues, it's suspect of being one of these rascals. And everything they post should be ignored until they can prove themselves to have a real issue to discuss, not just a place to vent their vile, anti-american spume.

Particularly shocking is the t***sparency, yet we all have turned a blind eye on it to some extent or another, and explained it away as "a few bad eggs that aren't intelligent enough to debate so they throw mud to mask this or who never grew up and still shout irrationalities like children on a playground". But deny it no more.

The pattern appears to be a strong association between this tactic and a certain set of views: pro-corporate, anti-tax, anti-regulation, anti-thought, anti-everything. "The government is trying to rule you, never mind that we're asking you to surrender logic to us by believing everything we say. We're not trying to think for you, we swear..."

The whole concept is astoundingly absurd. Both traditional conservatives and traditional progressives tend to be more willing to discuss an issue than these ultra right-wing scoundrels, many of whom seek to shut down debate (and if it's left-wing boloney, the same applies. Nonsense is nonsense, and has no place in the political arena anymore).

We need to band together and expose the mendacious liars for what they are. And ignore their posts entirely, as if it was written by an angry toddler throwing a tantrum and hitting random keys, then hitting send. Which is of course what they are (no offense to toddlers, of course).

If they want write posts against us, to each other, etc., who cares (until forum Moderators step up to put a stop to this). It must be viewed as just black smoke blowing by the battlefield of reason, instead of spending even an ounce of energy "combating" their treacherous, anti-americanism.

Call it chicanery, sophistry, or wh**ever you wish, but arguing with emotionally driven, discussion hating, fact obscuring denial-bots is just a plain waste of time. See it for what it is and let's leave them behind to scheme and blow smoke amongst themselves until they realize no one is paying attention anymore. We'll work TOGETHER to rebuild a new country of integrity ourselves.

As Mark Twain said, "Never argue with stupid people, they will d**g you down to their level and then beat you with experience."

What is particularly heinous is that this chips away, and perhaps crumbles finally, our trust of big business/the wealthy class (who supports this financially) and politicians (who reguritate and perpetuate the rhetoric), which imminently erodes our trust of each other. The worst thing someone can take away from someone else is their trust of one another, or that the powers that be aren't acting in the general populations best interest.

Do some research for yourself and learn about the methods used by the devious factions, which is rapidly growing unfortunately.

This "diatribe" is not in anyway a demonizing of republicans or the right-wing in general. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, it's a constitutional right. But we're not entitled to fact obscuring deceit or outright lies. When we all differ, we should be able to discuss the real issues and help each other to see things from one another's perspective. If we still disagree, then so be it. At least we are making a case based on FACT, not RHETORIC. And not intentionally deceiving and attempting to sway one another through f**e reviews, propaganda, or worse, using methods of coersion and plain lying to influence each other and imminently our political sphere to the gains of the fraudulent. This has quite dire consequnces, which there shouldn't be a need to point out here.

Is whipping people into a fervor by these means really what we want our world to be like? Sadly, looking over the above stated posting places, it clearly illustrates that's the way things already are, and have been for some time (this dates back at least 4 years by my research), but when one is raised in this type of environment, it isn't always easy for some of us to separate out that many of our ideas, or worse, our entire realities have been manipulated.

While this concept is obvious to some, it is more subtle to others.

Presenting people facts about the issues is far different than playing their emotions through the repetition of sound bites through various medias; that is a form of control. I for one don't want to live in a society that uses such measures, indeed spends much of their time scheming up new ones. And I'm sure if everyone knew the extent to which that is done, they wouldn't either.

If someone disagrees with what I am saying, let's debate the facts. Prove it right or prove it wrong. Don't scream and holler and bring commotion to it that gets us nowhere and keeps us spinning in circles. In fact, it takes us further from the t***h, which seems is their point. I'm done addressing such balderdash.

Most of the sensible, rational population (what's left anyway) has the urge to grab the people following these tricksters and shake them saying, "you i***ts, wake up!", but we have to resist this urge and see it for what it is. Generally good (if confused) people who are looking for anything to latch onto that smells of a possible solution to their hardships. They've been lied to, mislead, and brainwashed. Many are simply victims of the scheme, not initiators of it.

For those able to see this for yourselves already and who are disheartened, keep your mind open and your chin up. Sadly, these are manipulated times we live in. Be very skeptical of all the nonsensical, fact obscuring rhetoric these lowlife's spew.

P.s. A final note to the deceptive posters for wasting so much of mine and other people's time: Have fun trying to squash free thought, all you brainwashed Denial-bots! I love it when you get your panties in a bind every time the t***h comes out. You guys crack me up!!! : P
I'm going to propose an idea to those of you on he... (show quote)


Well George. It don't look like there are many that are ready with an open mind to discuss fresh ideas.

But I did like what you had to say & will read more of what you have to say.
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Feb 3, 2014 19:03:17   #
Grampy wrote:
Hi all
Been on the planet awhile, worked in computer turnkey business solutions.
Specialized in medical billing solutions
Read many articles daily Conservative and like to feel open minded to new
Participated in 9-12 dc March very inspiring
Will read comments and participate
Hopefully the site will beneficial


Just open your mind & let it come out. The thoughts that is.
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Feb 3, 2014 18:06:22   #
vernon wrote:
what


Are you HERE to find those that agree with you or perhaps partake of an exchange of ideas?

Did putting the word HERE in the sentence help make some sense?
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Feb 3, 2014 11:06:57   #
astrolite wrote:
Sometimes FEAR keeps you alive! Ignoring a danger gets you k**led! An intelligent person is always alert! When the shots are flying around you and things are blowing up, pretending it's only paranoia will end your blissful life quickly!


It is all in how you handle your self in a tight situation.

If you are truly filled with fear you will not do well.

One has to block out the fear to control ones self.
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Feb 3, 2014 10:55:59   #
vernon wrote:
that being the case ,why not start your own forum


Are you to find those that agree with you or perhaps partake of an exchange of ideas?
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Feb 2, 2014 12:33:19   #
rickdri wrote:
The thing about the black folks being strung up for race mixing. The people doing this were democrats. Remember, the Democrat Governor of Alabama George Wallace tried to stop b****s from being segregated into public school in the early 1960's. That was the view of southern democrats during that time.
Pryor to the 1960's, b****s even Marten Luther King a registered republican, v**ed mainly republican. President Johnson high jacked the black v**e by making b****s believe that big government was their friend. For some reason they still feel this way even after all of these government programs have done nothing to win the war on poverty Johnson started in the mid 1960's. Amazing that so many people let themselves be fooled into thinking government can and will do everything for them.
We do need a safety net to catch those that are truly disabled or can not work. Even to help those that are unemployed and are looking for work. However we have carried welfare way too far.
The thing about the black folks being strung up fo... (show quote)


Well good old George Wallace was a Democrat when he spread his h**e about b****s. But he didn't go very far until he became a Republican & hid his h**e of the b****s in a push for States Rights.
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Feb 2, 2014 12:09:31   #
jonhatfield wrote:
How many of the right wing extremist OPP club chimed in on this lie? 14! They buy into the misrepresentations typical of extremist fringe thinking all the time. They need to return to reality and appreciate real America--not perfect but the best self-government on earth.

List of buyers into this extremism f**ery: hprinz, bahmer, MrEd, DonMac, faithistheword, hopelessinil, Vernon, Weyner, Madshark, mkewlnez, CDM, stan3186, nuclearean, papadeux.

Question to each of these 14: how do you feel about the dupe factor in extreme right wing political statements? That is, surely by now each must of you must have run across a statement or two or three from your side that you recognized as doubtful, exaggerated, or outright misrepresentation but which you noticed your compatriots accepting without question and ranting on about? How do you feel about your side being duped and carrying on in such a manner? If you check back through the postings about this letter f**ed from a teacher, how do you feel now about the rabidness of some of the postings? I'm not asking whether you still believe the ideas but rather how you feel about the "duped" factor.

Separately, hprinz, could you explain the story line of this teacher being subject to firing? Did the piece come to you with that addition...or did you make that up yourself? Someone did make it up...just want to know who.

You 14 people need to be more responsible in your thinking and postings. This letter f**ed to be from a teacher and then f**ed to be cause for firing should be a caution to you regarding the sources of your thinking and the trustworthiness of propagandists on your side.
How many of the right wing extremist OPP club chim... (show quote)


Fear does that to people.
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