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Aug 23, 2019 20:00:34   #
debeda wrote:
Well, yeah, that eco terrorist. I was talking more about Dayton. And the chaos that is Portland. And the numerous r**ts on college campuses by a****a.

Hmm, I'm not sure the Dayton shootings could properly be called l*****t terror. He did k**l his sister and her/his (?) friend. It sounds more like a plain-old crazy k*****g as opposed to a political crazy k*****g.

Take a hypothetical. Suppose President Trump went out on 5th Avenue (soon to be President Barack H. Obama Avenue?) and shot Jared Kushner. We wouldn't think this would properly be called rightist terror. No we would just think this was Trump being Trump crazy.
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Aug 23, 2019 19:43:46   #
debeda wrote:
I dunno that I'm sold on FDR, tho. I've read so much conflicting info on him.

Yes, there are conflicting narratives about him. The rich pretty much h**ed him. Not only did he give us Social Security, employed millions of out-of-work Americans (WPA, CCC, etc.), started unemployment insurance, etc., to top it off he made the rich pay for it (he proposed 100% tax on income over $25,000 (today $400,000(?))).
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_taxation_in_the_United_States#Development_of_the_modern_income_tax

Maybe worst of all, being rich and from a rich family, he was a class t*****r.
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Aug 23, 2019 19:23:58   #
Mikeyavelli wrote:
So The Great Obama wasn't your messiah?
He's still your messiah. You believe in the Virgin Hawaiian Birth of The Obama.
I love Trump, he may appear to be a t*****r if your purpose is to topple America and turn it into a borderless one government world with Islam as the policing force. Yeah, Trump is against that, and so am I.

Catch much with your trolling?
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Aug 23, 2019 19:21:09   #
debeda wrote:
That was ONCE. havent you seen the news in the past 2+ years since?

Oh, you mean the El Paso manifesto?
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Aug 23, 2019 19:19:56   #
son of witless wrote:
A lot of folks in part time jobs during the Obama Emperor ship would disagree with that analysis.

I agree with those who think that Obama did not hand Trump a good economy (look at the median household income/wealth). It hasn't changed much under Trump either. If you look at the upper income/wealth levels Obama handed Trump a great economy that he and his tax cuts have made even better.
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Aug 23, 2019 19:07:31   #
debeda wrote:
I dunno. During the previous President Obama's administration I felt our country was on a greased slide to nowhere - AND that every day, average Americans were being marginalized in favor of special interest groups that represented a tiny portion of the population. President Trump is the president of ALL Americans, not just a chosen few.

I think there's a lot to be said for what you wrote.

I agree that in President Obama's administration "average Americans were being marginalized in favor of special interest groups that represented a tiny portion of the population". To stop the hemorrhaging economy, big banks, big insurance, GM, etc. were bailed out (started under Bush and continued by Obama) because they were deemed "too big to fail" and there was some reason there, given the turmoil caused by letting Lehman Brothers fail. But many average Americans lost their homes because they weren't too big; small businesses failed because they weren't too big. The Fed's zero interest rates and quantitative easing pumped money into the economy allowing big corporations to buy up smaller companies and buy back their own stocks increasing share values. These did little to nothing for the average American. While incomes and wealth increased almost all went to the rich. This is the special interest group that benefited most in the Obama administration; it continues in the Trump administration (perhaps more so, it has for me).

President Trump is (as was every POTUS) the president of all Americans (although there were a lot of t*****rs who thought Jeff Davis was their president). Every POTUS serves the interests of some Americans better than other Americans. I think FDR probably served the interests of most Americans better than any other POTUS.
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Aug 23, 2019 16:12:18   #
debeda wrote:
I have seen them in action. They are the n**is, IMO. Deviation from the narrative is VERBOTEN

You may have have been confused by all the chaos of the melee. The N**is were the ones with the tiki torches, the ones driving into demonstrators, the ones shouting "Jews will not replace us".
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Aug 23, 2019 15:39:49   #
debeda wrote:
It doesn't matter what a****a SAYS it is, or stands for. They are known by their actions. As are we all. ACTION talks, bs walks.


??? "ACTION talks, bs walks." ???

Is this some Alt-Right response to "Talk the talk and walk the walk"?

How do you know A****a's actions by just listening to right-wing talk?
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Aug 23, 2019 15:00:10   #
maximus wrote:
Are the stats that you presented not true? They are true. Are the stats that I presented not true? They are true. It all depends on which side you are coming from as to what stats you seek.
As a conservative, I personally condemn white supremacism, neo n**ism, the KKK, or any other group that promotes one race or group as superior to another.
Will you condemn a****a?
THAT'S where we are going with all this.

I think you are making a false equivalence.
For those who might need glimmer of understanding about A****a, checkout the video at the end of this:
https://www.mhpbooks.com/books/a****a/
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Aug 23, 2019 12:38:56   #
maximus wrote:
No surprise to me coming from a left leaning publication. This was printed June 16, 2017 and that's a while back. I wonder if it covered these attacks;

June 2016:

– Protesters jumped on cars, stole hats, fought with and threw eggs at Trump supporters outside a Trump rally in downtown San Jose, Calif. Trump supporters sued San Jose over the violence.

July 2016:

-A Hillary Clinton supporter lights a f**g on fire and attacks a Trump supporter in Pittsburgh.

August 2016:

-Anti-Trump protesters attacked pushed, spit on and verbally harassed attendees forced to walk a “gauntlet” as they left a Trump fundraiser in Minneapolis, Minn., and beat an elderly man. Protesters also attacked Trump’s motorcade.

–A Tennessee man was assaulted at a garage sale for being a Trump supporter.

-A Trump supporter in New Jersey was attacked with a crowbar on the street.

September 2016:

-Protesters in El Cajon, Calif., chased and beat up a Trump supporter.

October 2016:

-A GOP office in North Carolina was firebombed and spray painted with “N**i Republicans get out of town or else.”

November 2016:

-A high school student was attacked after she wrote that she supported Trump on social media. The perpetrator ripped her glasses off and punched her in the face.

-The president of Cornell University’s College Republicans was assaulted the night after T***p w*n the e******n.

-Students protesting Trump punched and kicked a Maryland high school student wearing a Make America Great Again hat.

-A high school student was arrested in Florida after he punched a classmate for carrying a Trump sign at school.

-A group of black men in Chicago attacked a white man while raging against Trump.

-Maryland high school students punched a student who was demonstrating in support of Trump, and then kicked him repeatedly while he was on the ground.

-“You support Trump. You h**e Mexicans,” a California high school student yelled at a Trump supporter, before viciously beating the girl.

-An anti-bullying ambassador was arrested for shoving a 74-year-old man to the ground in a fight outside Trump tower where people upset over his win had gathered. The woman tied to Black L***s M****r caused the man to hit his head on the sidewalk.

-A Texas elementary school student was beaten by his classmates for v****g for Trump in a mock e******n.

-Two men punched and kicked a Connecticut man who was standing with an American f**g and a Trump sign.

December 2016:

-A Trump supporter was beaten and d**gged by a car.

January 2017:

-A Trump supporter was knocked unconscious after airport protesters repeatedly beat him on the head.

-A Trump supporter was attacked after putting out a fire started by anti-Trump protesters.

-When Trump protesters encountered a driver with a pro-Trump f**g on his car, they surrounded the vehicle, ripped off and began burning the f**g, and pounded the car. They also punctured the tires.

February 2017:

-California GOP Rep. Tom McClintock had to be escorted to his car after a town hall because of angry protesters. The tires of at least four vehicles were slashed.

-Protestors knocked a 71-year-old female staffer for California GOP Rep. Dana Rohrabacher unconscious during a protest outside the representative’s office.

-Milo Yiannopoulos speech at the University of California-Berkeley was cancelled after r****rs set the campus on fire and threw rocks through windows. Milo tweeted that one of his supporters wearing a Trump hat was thrown to the ground and kicked.

March 2017:

-Masked protesters at Middlebury College rushed AEI scholar and political scientist Charles Murray and professor Allison Stranger, pushing and shoving Murray and grabbing Stranger by her hair and twisting her neck as they were leaving a campus building. Stranger suffered a concussion. Protesters then surrounded the car they got into, rocking it back and forth and jumping on the hood.

April 2017:

-A parade in Portland, Ore.,was canceled after threats of violence were made against a Republican organization.

-Fears of violent protests shut down Ann Coulter’s UC Berkeley speech. Campus police had gathered intel on protesters who were planning to commit violence.

May 2017:

– Republican Rep. Tom Garrett, his family and his dog were targeted by a series of repeated death threats deemed credible by authorities.

-FBI agents arrested a person for threatening to shoot Republican Rep. Martha McSally over her support for Trump.

-Police in Tennessee charged a woman for allegedly trying to run Republican Rep. David Kustoff off the road.

-Police in North Dakota ejected a man after he became physical with Republican Rep. Kevin Cramer at a town hall.

-A former professor was arrested after police said they identified him on video beating Trump supporters with a U-shaped bike lock, leaving three people with “significant injuries.”

June 2017:

-James Hodgkinson opened fire on a congressional GOP baseball practice, injuring five, including House Majority Whip Steve Scalise.

-Republican Rep. Claudia Tenney received an email threat that read, “One down, 216 to go,” shortly after the shooting at the Republican congressional baseball practice.

-A man driving a white Malibu reportedly fired several shots at a man driving a truck displaying a “Make America Great Again” f**g in Indiana.

Editor’s Note: This article original listed the San Jose, Calif., Trump rally violence as occurring in July 2016. It actually occurred June 2016. This article has been updated to reflect the proper date.
No surprise to me coming from a left leaning publi... (show quote)

My complements for this and its source. Oh wait, you didn't give a source.
According to the quoted Wikipedia article, WaPo analysed data from the Global Terrorism Database. Presumably you could do your own analysis. Here's what Wikipedia has on GTD:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Terrorism_Database

Giving a list of anecdotes of only one type of incident (aggression against Trumpunistas) does not provide any validity for your original stated belief, "Personally, I believe that the right is far behind the left in committing violence."

But I suppose I shouldn't have focused on your first sentence, and instead paid more attention to the last: "Instead of letting things evolve into more violence, let's trim our party lines and define exactly what it means to be left or right. Lets get rid of the extremists on BOTH sides."

To which my snide side might respond, "And let's start by getting rid of our Inciter-In-Chief, Mister "I'd like to sock him in the jaw" Trump.
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Aug 23, 2019 11:32:09   #
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Relax, he's our Messiah, you understand, you had one.
Trump is divested of his businesses, and if you kommiecrats thought you had a sliver of a chance to prosecute him for emoluments violations you would.
Trump set that up to be compliant with the law.
I******s are just that, illegal and nowhere in the Constitution does it provide for i*****l i*********n.
Mueller's entire report is not credible. Mueller failed and the report is firing back on the kommiecrats.
I love Trump, he's probably the best president in modern history, and fights back in an unorthodox way to keep America safe and as founded.
Relax, he's our Messiah, you understand, you ha... (show quote)

Mikeyavelli wrote, "...nowhere in the Constitution does it provide for i*****l i*********n."
Exactly, nowhere in the Constitution does it limit immigration or make it illegal. In fact, just the opposite, Article I, Section 9, Clause 1:
The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a Tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.

Here's an interesting link:
https://www.boundless.com/blog/u-s-constitution-immigration/
Wherein:
The U.S. Constitution gives very few specifics about the way U.S. immigration policy should look, but it provides broad guidelines as to who has authority to make such policy, as well as the legal means for challenges to elements of that policy.

In Article I, Section 8, the U.S. Constitution grants Congress the responsibility “To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization,” determining how immigrants can become citizens. Despite this charge, many states enacted their own immigration policies during the Republic’s early years. According to the University of California, Irvine law professor Jennifer Chacon, “for the first century of the United States’ existence, many states enacted laws regulating and controlling immigration into their own borders. Various states passed laws aimed at preventing a variety of populations from entering the borders of their states, including individuals with criminal records, people reliant on public assistance, s***es, and free b****s.”

Since the late 19th century, the U.S. Supreme court has consistently backed the federal immigration regulations against constitutional challenges. Still, Chacon writes, “Notwithstanding the letter of the law, federal i*********n l*w is always mediated by powerful intervening forces at the state and local level.”
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Aug 23, 2019 09:36:05   #
Radiance3 wrote:
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F**E NEWS. Andy Borowitz author of the f**e Copenhagen remarks is of New Yorker has a favorite president Barack Obama,and a h**er of president Trump. Worked for Washington Post, New Yorker.
Andy Borowitz is in the building. He writes f**e-headline political humor for The New Yorker’s website. It does huge traffic, or huge, as he might himself quip, affably. Donald Trump reference. Get it? Of course you do. This drives some people nuts.

Perhaps it was to subtle? Perhaps you missed the:
Andy Borowitz is a Times best-selling author and a comedian who has written for The New Yorker since 1998. He writes The Borowitz Report, a satirical column on the news.

That was at the end of the quoted OP.
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Aug 22, 2019 20:45:29   #
maximus wrote:
Personally, I believe that the right is far behind the left in committing violence. Seems like every day we hear about a****a beating somebody up. are they considered left? Extreme left? How many lefts and rights are there? I have not seen any democrats or liberals or l*****ts, wh**ever you want to call them, I have not seen any condemn a****a, but I have seen almost unanimous condemnation of the El Paso shooter. The MSM almost refuses to mention Dayton, Ohio because the shooter was a l*****t. Where is the cry for fair and honest journalism?
Are we to consider these violations of human rights, beatings, and even murder, actually mass murder as a part of our parties? Conservatives want NO part of the El Paso shooter, just like Elizabeth Warren wants no part of the Dayton, Ohio shooter.
Instead of letting things evolve into more violence, let's trim our party lines and define exactly what it means to be left or right. Lets get rid of the extremists on BOTH sides.
Personally, I believe that the right is far behind... (show quote)

You might want to about who is behind whom:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_terrorism#United_States
Wherein:
A report in The Washington Post, published on November 25, 2018, showed violent right-wing-related incidents up, and left-wing-related incidents down. Total domestic terrorism incidents was down to 41 in 2001, from a high of 468 in 1970, but then went up to 65 in 2017. Of those 65 events in 2017, 36 were right-wing-related (with 11 fatalities), 10 were left-wing-related (with 6 fatalities), 7 were related to Islamist extremism (with 16 fatalities), and 12, including the 2017 Las Vegas shooting, were categorized as "Other/Unknown" (with 62 fatalities, including 58 from the Las Vegas incident). The report found that 2018 was a particularly deadly year, with 11 people dying in the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting, 2 others in an incident in Kentucky, and two more in a shooting in Tallasshee. All three incidents were right-wing related.[88]

The Post reported that the upsurge in right-wing violence began during the Barack Obama administration and picked up steam under the presidency of Donald Trump, whose remarks after the Unite the Right rally in Charlotteville, Virginia in 2017 that there were "some very fine people on both sides" is widely seen as giving confidence to the right that the administration looked favorably on their goals, providing them with "tacit support". A former FBI assistant director for counterintelligence, is quoted as saying that "[political leaders] from the White House down, used to serve as a check on conduct and speech that was abhorrent to most people. I see that eroding. ... The current political rhetoric is at least enabling, and certainly not discouraging, violence."[88]

According to analysis by the newspaper of data from the Global Terrorism Database, 92 of 263 domestic terrorism events – 35% – that occurred from 2010 to 2017 were right-wing related, while 38 (14%) were Islamist extremist-related, and 34 (13%) were left-wing related. Not only that, but a criminologist from John Jay College stated that right-wing attacks were statistically more likely to result in fatalities.[88]
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Aug 22, 2019 11:44:25   #
debeda wrote:
Yes, I know what it is. But honestly, the closest thing nowadays to a guild would be trade labor unions. Apprentice, then journeyman.

As for "having considerable power", I think trade labor unions, now days, could be left out of that category, what with so called "right to work" laws.

Intern, resident, then fellow.
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Aug 22, 2019 10:59:48   #
debeda wrote:
That's it in a nutshell!!! Wheres the opportunity if you know that no matter HOW hard you work, you'll never get more than the lazy do nothing slugs? Because you have to SHARE

"lazy do nothing slugs"? Is that any way to talk about the capitalist who gives you a job (as long as another who will work cheaper can't be found)?
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