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Jan 22, 2015 00:01:02   #
EconomistDon
 
EconomistDon wrote:
What are you smoking??? There was no communism in the late 19th and early 20th century. Everyone WORKED and supported themselves. There was no social security because most people died before they could retire. The few who did live longer, were kept by their children. There was no welfare system or food stamps. Taxes were minimal, only enough to support a military. So government was small and not restrictive on business. Admittedly, that had its downside, because many people died on the job due to dangerous working conditions. Women didn't work; they were home growing food, making clothes, and raising babies. The middle class prospered because we had factory jobs for those who didn't work on farms. We had a "national" economy, which means that everything we consumed was made here, not imported. That middle class prosperity remained strong until the middle of the last century when imports began destroying our factory jobs. Japanese imports destroyed our auto industry and then our steel industry, which wiped out hundreds of thousands of high paying middle class jobs. And by the end of the century, imports almost completely took over our technology manufacturing industry. Now it is China stealing what few manufacturing jobs we have left. Everything that is not made in Japan is made in China.

No amount of Communism will bring that manufacturing back.

rumitoid wrote:
Funny and very Bachmannesgue.


You think the truth is funny? But you expect us to give credence to your lunatic ravings? You can't prove any of my points wrong, so you just toss out an insult. Try putting some substance behind your insults.

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Jan 22, 2015 00:40:27   #
rumitoid
 
EconomistDon wrote:
EconomistDon wrote:
What are you smoking??? There was no communism in the late 19th and early 20th century. Everyone WORKED and supported themselves. There was no social security because most people died before they could retire. The few who did live longer, were kept by their children. There was no welfare system or food stamps. Taxes were minimal, only enough to support a military. So government was small and not restrictive on business. Admittedly, that had its downside, because many people died on the job due to dangerous working conditions. Women didn't work; they were home growing food, making clothes, and raising babies. The middle class prospered because we had factory jobs for those who didn't work on farms. We had a "national" economy, which means that everything we consumed was made here, not imported. That middle class prosperity remained strong until the middle of the last century when imports began destroying our factory jobs. Japanese imports destroyed our auto industry and then our steel industry, which wiped out hundreds of thousands of high paying middle class jobs. And by the end of the century, imports almost completely took over our technology manufacturing industry. Now it is China stealing what few manufacturing jobs we have left. Everything that is not made in Japan is made in China.

No amount of Communism will bring that manufacturing back.



You think the truth is funny? But you expect us to give credence to your lunatic ravings? You can't prove any of my points wrong, so you just toss out an insult. Try putting some substance behind your insults.
EconomistDon wrote: br What are you smoking??? The... (show quote)


You are thoroughly deluded. A revisionist worthy of such yahoos as Bachmann. "Most people died before they could retire" because there were no protections on the job.

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Jan 22, 2015 00:43:58   #
rumitoid
 
Hemiman wrote:
So what's your point?you do have one don't you?


It was made, try to follow.

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Jan 22, 2015 00:45:20   #
rumitoid
 
beammeupscotty wrote:
You've finally done it. you've gone and lost whatever mind you had left.
This is it, the last time i read any more of your mindless crap.


Farewell...

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Jan 22, 2015 00:47:38   #
rumitoid
 
Lol, I repeat 'this is not say that communism is a good form of government.'

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Jan 22, 2015 00:52:27   #
rumitoid
 
melbell wrote:
You use good as the qualifier when you said Christianity has nothing whatsoever to do with a good form of government or our nations prosperity.

So I ask

So if not Christianity then what is the measure? name? Identity? of good ? And as a common thread, is it used to manipulate the masses to support or refute an idea proposed by said governance.
Even while many measure good as in accordance to Gods will and precepts.

You suppose to convince the majority they have not known
1 good
2 historical writings journals wills descendants accounts of said belief systems.
3. You possess the truth and can attribute it back to communism
Or 4 the orthodox church ( Russia Greece )
( seat of communism ) has issued forth talking points refuting Rome's seat of the catholic church and believe this will alter the identity of all factions from Rome.
You use good as the qualifier when you said Christ... (show quote)


We have a Constitution and a Bill of Rights. This is not Christian.

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Jan 22, 2015 15:28:24   #
EconomistDon
 
rumitoid wrote:
You are thoroughly deluded. A revisionist worthy of such yahoos as Bachmann. "Most people died before they could retire" because there were no protections on the job.


Please tell me what parts I revised. It's all straight out of history, sociology, and economics books. Those of us who graduated from college actually learned this stuff.

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Jan 25, 2015 17:23:56   #
InvincibleEagle Loc: North central OH.
 
rumitoid wrote:
You are thoroughly deluded. A revisionist worthy of such yahoos as Bachmann. "Most people died before they could retire" because there were no protections on the job.


No, unions make labor costs too expensive and the Japanese were making cars that people wanted, plus technology that started being used in the late 70s eliminated a lot of jobs. In both Auto and steel production. Really, American car companies owe a debt of gratitude to the Japanese for showing us how to do things better. And this is from a guy whose Dad retired from Ford.

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Jan 25, 2015 18:31:51   #
johns Loc: Hopedale, MA.
 
The only way that communism saved America is that it SHOWED US THAT IT DID NOT WORK !! Human nature (the bad side) will ALWAYS be communism's downfall! I happen to agree with member rumitoid for the most part when he/she says that we will never get back all that we have lost to foreign manufacturing, ALTHOUGH I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD CONSTANTLY STRIVE TO DO JUST THAT. Unfortunately I believe that our present president Obama IS INTENTIONALLY TRYING TO RUIN AMERICA so that his EXTREMIST ISLAMIC COMPATRIOTS CAN JUST WALTZ RIGHT IN TAKE OVER CONTROL OF THE USA. Well, I just want to say that I will do EVERYTHING THAT I POSSIBLY CAN that it won't happen on my watch!!!

God Bless & Keep America

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Jan 25, 2015 18:35:59   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
johns wrote:
The only way that communism saved America is that it SHOWED US THAT IT DID NOT WORK !! Human nature (the bad side) will ALWAYS be communism's downfall! I happen to agree with member rumitoid for the most part when he/she says that we will never get back all that we have lost to foreign manufacturing, ALTHOUGH I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD CONSTANTLY STRIVE TO DO JUST THAT. Unfortunately I believe that our present president Obama IS INTENTIONALLY TRYING TO RUIN AMERICA so that his EXTREMIST ISLAMIC COMPATRIOTS CAN JUST WALTZ RIGHT IN TAKE OVER CONTROL OF THE USA. Well, I just want to say that I will do EVERYTHING THAT I POSSIBLY CAN that it won't happen on my watch!!!

God Bless & Keep America
The only way that communism saved America is that ... (show quote)


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Jan 25, 2015 18:45:41   #
johns Loc: Hopedale, MA.
 
I MADE A VERY BIG MISTAKE IN MY FIRST EVER POST AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS CORRECTED AT ONCE I AM A NEW MEMBER AND A LITTLE UNFAMILIAR WITH THE FORMAT STRUCTURE. What I meant to say was that I PRETTY MUCH AGREED WITH ECONOMIST DON and NOT he/she member rumitoid. Sorry for that, I will get the hang of it soon I hope..

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Jan 25, 2015 18:54:48   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
johns wrote:
I MADE A VERY BIG MISTAKE IN MY FIRST EVER POST AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS CORRECTED AT ONCE I AM A NEW MEMBER AND A LITTLE UNFAMILIAR WITH THE FORMAT STRUCTURE. What I meant to say was that I PRETTY MUCH AGREED WITH ECONOMIST DON and NOT he/she member rumitoid. Sorry for that, I will get the hang of it soon I hope..

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Jan 25, 2015 19:21:20   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
johns wrote:
I MADE A VERY BIG MISTAKE IN MY FIRST EVER POST AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS CORRECTED AT ONCE I AM A NEW MEMBER AND A LITTLE UNFAMILIAR WITH THE FORMAT STRUCTURE. What I meant to say was that I PRETTY MUCH AGREED WITH ECONOMIST DON and NOT he/she member rumitoid. Sorry for that, I will get the hang of it soon I hope..


Fyi,using caps.is considered shouting by admin.

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