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What really drove Colorado Recall vote--hint: it wasnt voter suppression
Sep 15, 2013 10:53:45   #
Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State
 
Colorado’s first ever successful recall wasn’t about money. It wasn’t about partisan politics. It wasn’t even about guns.

In the aftermath of Tuesday’s historic recall election, a lot of people are re-writing history.

Some say it was bought and paid for by the gun-lobby, but if elections can be so easily bought and paid for why didn’t the recall fail? As the Washington Post noted, the anti-recall effort bolstered by billionaire Eli Broad and NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg outspent the pro-recall effort by a 5-to-1 margin.

Others are saying it was partisan politics at its worst. But that doesn’t explain why more Democrats and Independents signed the recall petition than Republicans. That doesn’t explain why in State Senator Angela Giron’s district, where Democrats enjoy a 47-23% registration advantage over Republicans, the recall passed by double-digits.

You see, for the people of Colorado, the recall was about something much more fundamental and personal - their right to be heard.

The American people will tolerate many things but as history has shown, the one thing that can serve as a catalyst for revolution is action without representation. We have a fervent belief in our right to be heard. The entire idea of our democracy is predicated on the notion that our representatives have an obligation to at least listen to their constituents before taking action on their behalf.

That absence of an ability to gain an audience with their representatives is why Coloradans from across the ideological spectrum recalled State Senate President John Morse and State Senator Angela Giron.

That’s why it’s somewhat laughable that Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman-Schultz has characterized the recall as “voter suppression, pure and simple” because it is in fact “suppression” that ignited the recall in the first place.

For Morse and Giron, their fates were sealed on March 4th when they chose to divert from standard practice and ignored the hundreds of Colorado citizens who traveled to the State Capitol on the day that Senate committees were deliberating new gun-control measures. They were turned away and not heard.

Among those citizens were 30 Sheriffs, who came to testify, but only one was allowed to speak.

No matter what you think about additional gun-control legislation, is it so unreasonable to listen to testimony from the very law enforcement personnel who will be charged with enforcing them?

For all the talk about safety and common-sense, shouldn’t we invite the perspective of the very people who spend every single day dedicated to keeping our homes, schools and communities safe?

And that’s the problem, Sens. Morse and Giron didn’t want to hear from anyone. They didn’t want to let the process unfold and so they limited debate and restricted the ability of the people of Colorado from being heard.

Had that March 4th day not unfolded this way, there would have been no recall.

Instead, new laws that the majority of Coloradans opposed were imposed on them and the citizens weren’t even allowed to speak-out.

When elected representatives so willfully choose to ignore the voice of the people, no matter what the policy is or where they fall on the ideological spectrum, the people will unite and demand to be heard.

The recall process afforded these people a constructive, definitive and democratic mechanism to be heard.

The real takeaway from the recall as far as Coloradans are concerned isn’t about supporting or opposing new gun-control measures, it’s ensuring that never again will significant policy be imposed on the people unless the people have been given an audience with their representatives first.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/09/12/colorado-recall-non-partisan-statement-against-voter-suppression/?intcmp=obnetwork#ixzz2eyP36BRG

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Sep 15, 2013 11:06:35   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Nuclearian wrote:
Colorado’s first ever successful recall wasn’t about money. It wasn’t about partisan politics. It wasn’t even about guns.

In the aftermath of Tuesday’s historic recall election, a lot of people are re-writing history.

Some say it was bought and paid for by the gun-lobby, but if elections can be so easily bought and paid for why didn’t the recall fail? As the Washington Post noted, the anti-recall effort bolstered by billionaire Eli Broad and NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg outspent the pro-recall effort by a 5-to-1 margin.

Others are saying it was partisan politics at its worst. But that doesn’t explain why more Democrats and Independents signed the recall petition than Republicans. That doesn’t explain why in State Senator Angela Giron’s district, where Democrats enjoy a 47-23% registration advantage over Republicans, the recall passed by double-digits.

You see, for the people of Colorado, the recall was about something much more fundamental and personal - their right to be heard.

The American people will tolerate many things but as history has shown, the one thing that can serve as a catalyst for revolution is action without representation. We have a fervent belief in our right to be heard. The entire idea of our democracy is predicated on the notion that our representatives have an obligation to at least listen to their constituents before taking action on their behalf.

That absence of an ability to gain an audience with their representatives is why Coloradans from across the ideological spectrum recalled State Senate President John Morse and State Senator Angela Giron.

That’s why it’s somewhat laughable that Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman-Schultz has characterized the recall as “voter suppression, pure and simple” because it is in fact “suppression” that ignited the recall in the first place.

For Morse and Giron, their fates were sealed on March 4th when they chose to divert from standard practice and ignored the hundreds of Colorado citizens who traveled to the State Capitol on the day that Senate committees were deliberating new gun-control measures. They were turned away and not heard.

Among those citizens were 30 Sheriffs, who came to testify, but only one was allowed to speak.

No matter what you think about additional gun-control legislation, is it so unreasonable to listen to testimony from the very law enforcement personnel who will be charged with enforcing them?

For all the talk about safety and common-sense, shouldn’t we invite the perspective of the very people who spend every single day dedicated to keeping our homes, schools and communities safe?

And that’s the problem, Sens. Morse and Giron didn’t want to hear from anyone. They didn’t want to let the process unfold and so they limited debate and restricted the ability of the people of Colorado from being heard.

Had that March 4th day not unfolded this way, there would have been no recall.

Instead, new laws that the majority of Coloradans opposed were imposed on them and the citizens weren’t even allowed to speak-out.

When elected representatives so willfully choose to ignore the voice of the people, no matter what the policy is or where they fall on the ideological spectrum, the people will unite and demand to be heard.

The recall process afforded these people a constructive, definitive and democratic mechanism to be heard.

The real takeaway from the recall as far as Coloradans are concerned isn’t about supporting or opposing new gun-control measures, it’s ensuring that never again will significant policy be imposed on the people unless the people have been given an audience with their representatives first.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/09/12/colorado-recall-non-partisan-statement-against-voter-suppression/?intcmp=obnetwork#ixzz2eyP36BRG
Colorado’s first ever successful recall wasn’t abo... (show quote)


Excellent post. I cannot help but wonder how long it will be before our resident racial politics gadflies, Little BoJester Peep, and InYourFace weigh in on this with their usual brainless drivel.

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Sep 15, 2013 11:30:11   #
Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State
 
banjojack wrote:
Excellent post. I cannot help but wonder how long it will be before our resident racial politics gadflies, Little BoJester Peep, and InYourFace weigh in on this with their usual brainless drivel.


Well, it IS from Fox News, so we know they wont believe it. Hard for them to belief anything from a news agency that tells the truth. They would need to here it from one of those "reputable" liberal news agencies, like MSNBC. lol Of course, the liberal news agencies wont talk about that. Unless they can use the "racism" word as a reason.

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Sep 15, 2013 11:39:39   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Nuclearian wrote:
Well, it IS from Fox News, so we know they wont believe it. Hard for them to belief anything from a news agency that tells the truth. They would need to here it from one of those "reputable" liberal news agencies, like MSNBC. lol Of course, the liberal news agencies wont talk about that. Unless they can use the "racism" word as a reason.


InYourFace used to make me angry, 'till I realized it wasn't anger, it was amused contempt. He doesn't have enough wrinkles in his cortex to inspire anger.

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Sep 15, 2013 12:36:33   #
weneedrubio
 
I believe the voters are starting to understand what letting ideologues like Debbie Wasserman Schwartz and the two recalled is doing to our govt. They are beginning to understand the stifling of freedom the liberal movement is all about and it scares them. You can fool some of the people all the time but most wake up eventually and the backlash is going to be tremendous this time. Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Durbin, Frank,the governor of Colorado and the two recalled are destroying our commonality and most are fed up with it.
Nuclearian wrote:
Colorado’s first ever successful recall wasn’t about money. It wasn’t about partisan politics. It wasn’t even about guns.

In the aftermath of Tuesday’s historic recall election, a lot of people are re-writing history.

Some say it was bought and paid for by the gun-lobby, but if elections can be so easily bought and paid for why didn’t the recall fail? As the Washington Post noted, the anti-recall effort bolstered by billionaire Eli Broad and NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg outspent the pro-recall effort by a 5-to-1 margin.

Others are saying it was partisan politics at its worst. But that doesn’t explain why more Democrats and Independents signed the recall petition than Republicans. That doesn’t explain why in State Senator Angela Giron’s district, where Democrats enjoy a 47-23% registration advantage over Republicans, the recall passed by double-digits.

You see, for the people of Colorado, the recall was about something much more fundamental and personal - their right to be heard.

The American people will tolerate many things but as history has shown, the one thing that can serve as a catalyst for revolution is action without representation. We have a fervent belief in our right to be heard. The entire idea of our democracy is predicated on the notion that our representatives have an obligation to at least listen to their constituents before taking action on their behalf.

That absence of an ability to gain an audience with their representatives is why Coloradans from across the ideological spectrum recalled State Senate President John Morse and State Senator Angela Giron.

That’s why it’s somewhat laughable that Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman-Schultz has characterized the recall as “voter suppression, pure and simple” because it is in fact “suppression” that ignited the recall in the first place.

For Morse and Giron, their fates were sealed on March 4th when they chose to divert from standard practice and ignored the hundreds of Colorado citizens who traveled to the State Capitol on the day that Senate committees were deliberating new gun-control measures. They were turned away and not heard.

Among those citizens were 30 Sheriffs, who came to testify, but only one was allowed to speak.

No matter what you think about additional gun-control legislation, is it so unreasonable to listen to testimony from the very law enforcement personnel who will be charged with enforcing them?

For all the talk about safety and common-sense, shouldn’t we invite the perspective of the very people who spend every single day dedicated to keeping our homes, schools and communities safe?

And that’s the problem, Sens. Morse and Giron didn’t want to hear from anyone. They didn’t want to let the process unfold and so they limited debate and restricted the ability of the people of Colorado from being heard.

Had that March 4th day not unfolded this way, there would have been no recall.

Instead, new laws that the majority of Coloradans opposed were imposed on them and the citizens weren’t even allowed to speak-out.

When elected representatives so willfully choose to ignore the voice of the people, no matter what the policy is or where they fall on the ideological spectrum, the people will unite and demand to be heard.

The recall process afforded these people a constructive, definitive and democratic mechanism to be heard.

The real takeaway from the recall as far as Coloradans are concerned isn’t about supporting or opposing new gun-control measures, it’s ensuring that never again will significant policy be imposed on the people unless the people have been given an audience with their representatives first.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/09/12/colorado-recall-non-partisan-statement-against-voter-suppression/?intcmp=obnetwork#ixzz2eyP36BRG
Colorado’s first ever successful recall wasn’t abo... (show quote)

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Sep 15, 2013 17:43:32   #
faithistheword
 
banjojack wrote:
Excellent post. I cannot help but wonder how long it will be before our resident racial politics gadflies, Little BoJester Peep, and InYourFace weigh in on this with their usual brainless drivel.




I haven't been so encouraged by anything since Nov. 2008--as I was by that recall. I am eternally grateful for that March 4 slip by Morse and Giron. Debbie Wasserman-Shultz is a Putz! If the dems aren't screaming "racism", they're screaming "voter suppression". Where are our esteemed Republicans in DC? Why don't they see what happens to representatives who don't listen to their constituents? Thank You, Nuclearean, for the post.

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Sep 15, 2013 17:52:59   #
Babsan
 
Nuclearian wrote:
Colorado’s first ever successful recall wasn’t about money. It wasn’t about partisan politics. It wasn’t even about guns.

In the aftermath of Tuesday’s historic recall election, a lot of people are re-writing history.

Some say it was bought and paid for by the gun-lobby, but if elections can be so easily bought and paid for why didn’t the recall fail? As the Washington Post noted, the anti-recall effort bolstered by billionaire Eli Broad and NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg outspent the pro-recall effort by a 5-to-1 margin.

Others are saying it was partisan politics at its worst. But that doesn’t explain why more Democrats and Independents signed the recall petition than Republicans. That doesn’t explain why in State Senator Angela Giron’s district, where Democrats enjoy a 47-23% registration advantage over Republicans, the recall passed by double-digits.

You see, for the people of Colorado, the recall was about something much more fundamental and personal - their right to be heard.

The American people will tolerate many things but as history has shown, the one thing that can serve as a catalyst for revolution is action without representation. We have a fervent belief in our right to be heard. The entire idea of our democracy is predicated on the notion that our representatives have an obligation to at least listen to their constituents before taking action on their behalf.

That absence of an ability to gain an audience with their representatives is why Coloradans from across the ideological spectrum recalled State Senate President John Morse and State Senator Angela Giron.

That’s why it’s somewhat laughable that Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman-Schultz has characterized the recall as “voter suppression, pure and simple” because it is in fact “suppression” that ignited the recall in the first place.

For Morse and Giron, their fates were sealed on March 4th when they chose to divert from standard practice and ignored the hundreds of Colorado citizens who traveled to the State Capitol on the day that Senate committees were deliberating new gun-control measures. They were turned away and not heard.

Among those citizens were 30 Sheriffs, who came to testify, but only one was allowed to speak.

No matter what you think about additional gun-control legislation, is it so unreasonable to listen to testimony from the very law enforcement personnel who will be charged with enforcing them?

For all the talk about safety and common-sense, shouldn’t we invite the perspective of the very people who spend every single day dedicated to keeping our homes, schools and communities safe?

And that’s the problem, Sens. Morse and Giron didn’t want to hear from anyone. They didn’t want to let the process unfold and so they limited debate and restricted the ability of the people of Colorado from being heard.

Had that March 4th day not unfolded this way, there would have been no recall.

Instead, new laws that the majority of Coloradans opposed were imposed on them and the citizens weren’t even allowed to speak-out.

When elected representatives so willfully choose to ignore the voice of the people, no matter what the policy is or where they fall on the ideological spectrum, the people will unite and demand to be heard.

The recall process afforded these people a constructive, definitive and democratic mechanism to be heard.

The real takeaway from the recall as far as Coloradans are concerned isn’t about supporting or opposing new gun-control measures, it’s ensuring that never again will significant policy be imposed on the people unless the people have been given an audience with their representatives first.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/09/12/colorado-recall-non-partisan-statement-against-voter-suppression/?intcmp=obnetwork#ixzz2eyP36BRG
Colorado’s first ever successful recall wasn’t abo... (show quote)

Excellent post.More tone deaf Marxists need too.

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Sep 16, 2013 10:17:59   #
StephenB1
 
I really feel that those rich aholes like Bloomburg, should not be aloud to spend their loot is another state, just where they are living.

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Sep 16, 2013 15:17:06   #
BIGEAGLE Loc: Washington State
 
Nuclearian wrote:
Well, it IS from Fox News, so we know they wont believe it. Hard for them to belief anything from a news agency that tells the truth. They would need to here it from one of those "reputable" liberal news agencies, like MSNBC. lol Of course, the liberal news agencies wont talk about that. Unless they can use the "racism" word as a reason.


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Well said....when those "clowns" that WE, the people, elect by our votes, ...We should have the "RIGHT" to FIRE them ( By "RECALL")... As the #1 reason there are Legislatures and Congress,.... is that they (MUST) represent those people who "elected" them to FIRST AND FOREMOST: Adhere to OUR desires, ...NOT those of the Corp.'s and Unions who "pay them off" to vote the Corp.'s and Unions way.....NO,NO,NO,...JUST (OUR) DESIRES......!!!
WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE "GOVT.".....!!!

I cannot understand why the "question" of (Amnesty and GUN Control) are not on the NOV. National Ballot, so that WE, the People, DO have a "RIGHT" to vote on these large items ...Why ?...WHY ...Do we allow only "CORRUPT" Politicians to "decide " for us, WHY, .... :roll: :roll: :roll:

I SAY IT IS FAR TO LONG THAT WE, THE PEOPLE, ARE "LED" AROUND LIKE STUPID "SHEEP"....ENOUGH !!!
:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

THIS IS WHY WE ARE "DOWN THE TUBE " BECAUSE WE ARE ( STUPID)...WHY DONT ALL STATES HAVE "RECALL", INSTEAD OF ONLY 18 OUT OF 50 ??????????????????

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Sep 16, 2013 18:47:18   #
Inyourface Loc: East Coast
 
I wonder if those idiots in Colorado used their guns to blow a hole in those clouds. I bet when all that water was washing down on their sorry asses they weren't thinking about the Black Helicopters or th the Black Panthers invading their lily white neighborhoods.

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Sep 16, 2013 21:23:04   #
Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State
 
Inyourface wrote:
Black Helicopters or th the Black Panthers invading their lily white neighborhoods.


Ah, dont worry about the Black Helicopters and Black Panthers. The Black Helicopters are monitoring the VIOLENT black districts, and the whities are punching holes in the Black Panthers. Sending them to hell where they belong.

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Sep 16, 2013 21:27:52   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Nuclearian wrote:
Ah, dont worry about the Black Helicopters and Black Panthers. The Black Helicopters are monitoring the VIOLENT black districts, and the whities are punching holes in the Black Panthers. Sending them to hell where they belong.


You mean the black helicopters aren't monitoring the non-violent black districts, also? Oh, that's right, there aren't any........

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Sep 17, 2013 23:11:54   #
Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State
 
banjojack wrote:
You mean the black helicopters aren't monitoring the non-violent black districts, also? Oh, that's right, there aren't any........




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