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May 22, 2023 20:47:03   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
If there are intelligent beings on other planets, then they would have been affected by the fall of Adam because the whole creation was affected (Romans 8:22). So, these beings would have to die because death is the penalty for sin. One day their planet will be destroyed during God’s final judgment, but they cannot have salvation because that blessing is given only to humans. If intelligent beings lived on other planets, they would suffer because of Adam’s sin but would have no opportunity to be saved through Christ’s sacrifice.

When Jesus Christ stepped into history, he became the God-man. The Bible calls him “the last Adam” and the “second man” (1 Corinthians 15:45, 47). He became the second perfect man (Adam was perfect before he sinned), and he took the place of the first Adam by dying for the human race. As the first Adam was the representative head of the human race, so Jesus became the new head, the last Adam. So, there can be no other Savior, only Christ. Jesus now sits in the heavens, still in human form, on his throne next to the Father. If Jesus stepped out of his human form, we would no longer have a Savior. He remains the God-man forever. But note, Jesus didn’t become a “God-Klingon,” a “God-Vulcan,” or a “God-Cardassian”—he became the God-man.

It wouldn’t make sense theologically for there to be other intelligent, physical beings who suffer because of Adam’s sin but cannot be saved. So, my point is that I don’t believe in aliens.

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May 22, 2023 21:08:32   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Parky60 wrote:
If there are intelligent beings on other planets, then they would have been affected by the fall of Adam because the whole creation was affected (Romans 8:22). So, these beings would have to die because death is the penalty for sin. One day their planet will be destroyed during God’s final judgment, but they cannot have salvation because that blessing is given only to humans. If intelligent beings lived on other planets, they would suffer because of Adam’s sin but would have no opportunity to be saved through Christ’s sacrifice.

When Jesus Christ stepped into history, he became the God-man. The Bible calls him “the last Adam” and the “second man” (1 Corinthians 15:45, 47). He became the second perfect man (Adam was perfect before he sinned), and he took the place of the first Adam by dying for the human race. As the first Adam was the representative head of the human race, so Jesus became the new head, the last Adam. So, there can be no other Savior, only Christ. Jesus now sits in the heavens, still in human form, on his throne next to the Father. If Jesus stepped out of his human form, we would no longer have a Savior. He remains the God-man forever. But note, Jesus didn’t become a “God-Klingon,” a “God-Vulcan,” or a “God-Cardassian”—he became the God-man.

It wouldn’t make sense theologically for there to be other intelligent, physical beings who suffer because of Adam’s sin but cannot be saved. So, my point is that I don’t believe in aliens.
If there are intelligent beings on other planets, ... (show quote)

Earth’s God is the most powerful entity in the entire universe?

A universe so vast we can not scientifically measure the number of planets that are trillions of light years away. In all directions.

There is a ‘God’ but are not aware enough to know.

My faith is that there is more and karma is a bitch.

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May 22, 2023 21:36:38   #
woodguru
 
Parky60 wrote:
If there are intelligent beings on other planets, then they would have been affected by the fall of Adam because the whole creation was affected (Romans 8:22)

Sparky...got news for you, "aliens" terraformed this planet and seeded it with life, "they" were there messing with people's beliefs, creating gods, performing miracles that were child's play for their advanced technology. The light brighter than a thousand suns, they were there. They are in reality your god, but it takes an open mind to see it.

Imagine when they take millions of people away (great rapture?)...who they gonna take, real christians or the thugs that believe they are christians? I think they will be taking good people, And MAGAs are not them. If you were objectively watching people, and wanted to save the best and set them up elsewhere, would you take nasty contentious hateful people or would you take truly good compassionate people?

MAGAs are going to be left holding this bag of crap planet they and greedy people have destroyed

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May 22, 2023 21:49:56   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
woodguru wrote:
Sparky...got news for you, "aliens" terraformed this planet and seeded it with life, "they" were there messing with people's beliefs, creating gods, performing miracles that were child's play for their advanced technology. The light brighter than a thousand suns, they were there. They are in reality your god, but it takes an open mind to see it.

Imagine when they take millions of people away (great rapture?)...who they gonna take, real christians or the thugs that believe they are christians? I think they will be taking good people, And MAGAs are not them. If you were objectively watching people, and wanted to save the best and set them up elsewhere, would you take nasty contentious hateful people or would you take truly good compassionate people?

MAGAs are going to be left holding this bag of crap planet they and greedy people have destroyed
Sparky...got news for you, "aliens" terr... (show quote)

You got it all wrong. Only the Trump adherents will be saved.

Here is my reasoning. Trump said "I think I'm the most honest human being, perhaps, that God ever created."

So to be Trump supporter is like a ticket to eternal bliss.

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May 22, 2023 21:56:42   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Parky60 wrote:
Do aliens exist?.
Yeah, we call'em "democrats".

"You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile."
"You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile."...

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May 22, 2023 21:58:08   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
RascalRiley wrote:
You got it all wrong. Only the Trump adherents will be saved.

Here is my reasoning. Trump said "I think I'm the most honest human being, perhaps, that God ever created."

So to be Trump supporter is like a ticket to eternal bliss.
You are the master of inanities.

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May 22, 2023 22:08:00   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
You are the master of inanities.
It was.

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May 23, 2023 00:37:42   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
woodguru wrote:
Sparky...got news for you, "aliens" terraformed this planet and seeded it with life, "they" were there messing with people's beliefs, creating gods, performing miracles that were child's play for their advanced technology. The light brighter than a thousand suns, they were there. They are in reality your god, but it takes an open mind to see it.

Imagine when they take millions of people away (great rapture?)...who they gonna take, real christians or the thugs that believe they are christians? I think they will be taking good people, And MAGAs are not them. If you were objectively watching people, and wanted to save the best and set them up elsewhere, would you take nasty contentious hateful people or would you take truly good compassionate people?

MAGAs are going to be left holding this bag of crap planet they and greedy people have destroyed
Sparky...got news for you, "aliens" terr... (show quote)


Woodbrain,
Being good will keep you out of jail, but not hell!

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May 23, 2023 05:19:22   #
Woodzter
 
Your "it wouldn't make sense theologically" doesn't make sense imo. Romans 1:20 is an answer to the question what about people, especially in history but even currently, who have never been exposed to Christ teachings. The answer is that they are without excuse because his invisible power and deity is perceived in all things, even the trees and grass and the sky (paraphrased). So, aliens would have the same opportunity and be without excuse. To me, this refuted the claim that only by accepting Jesus unto your heart can you be saved. There are other paths according to this verse and even more it makes sense in terms of a just God. Aliens would also be exposed to the wonders of the universe no matter what part of the universe they hail from.

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May 23, 2023 07:11:49   #
Big dog
 
woodguru wrote:
Sparky...got news for you, "aliens" terraformed this planet and seeded it with life, "they" were there messing with people's beliefs, creating gods, performing miracles that were child's play for their advanced technology. The light brighter than a thousand suns, they were there. They are in reality your god, but it takes an open mind to see it.

Imagine when they take millions of people away (great rapture?)...who they gonna take, real christians or the thugs that believe they are christians? I think they will be taking good people, And MAGAs are not them. If you were objectively watching people, and wanted to save the best and set them up elsewhere, would you take nasty contentious hateful people or would you take truly good compassionate people?

MAGAs are going to be left holding this bag of crap planet they and greedy people have destroyed
Sparky...got news for you, "aliens" terr... (show quote)


Other than just proclaiming yourself to be a Heathen, you put yourself on the same level as God by judging All Magas as not being’Good people’.
Of course, a real atheist considers themselves to be their only god. So why not just come out and confess to being an Atheist?

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May 23, 2023 09:47:36   #
Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich
 
Parky60 wrote:
If there are intelligent beings on other planets, then they would have been affected by the fall of Adam because the whole creation was affected (Romans 8:22). So, these beings would have to die because death is the penalty for sin. One day their planet will be destroyed during God’s final judgment, but they cannot have salvation because that blessing is given only to humans. If intelligent beings lived on other planets, they would suffer because of Adam’s sin but would have no opportunity to be saved through Christ’s sacrifice.

When Jesus Christ stepped into history, he became the God-man. The Bible calls him “the last Adam” and the “second man” (1 Corinthians 15:45, 47). He became the second perfect man (Adam was perfect before he sinned), and he took the place of the first Adam by dying for the human race. As the first Adam was the representative head of the human race, so Jesus became the new head, the last Adam. So, there can be no other Savior, only Christ. Jesus now sits in the heavens, still in human form, on his throne next to the Father. If Jesus stepped out of his human form, we would no longer have a Savior. He remains the God-man forever. But note, Jesus didn’t become a “God-Klingon,” a “God-Vulcan,” or a “God-Cardassian”—he became the God-man.

It wouldn’t make sense theologically for there to be other intelligent, physical beings who suffer because of Adam’s sin but cannot be saved. So, my point is that I don’t believe in aliens.
If there are intelligent beings on other planets, ... (show quote)


**ALIENS 'DO EXIST"...THEY ARE CALLED DEMONRATS! , , , , ,

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May 23, 2023 09:52:14   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
Woodzter wrote:
Your "it wouldn't make sense theologically" doesn't make sense imo. Romans 1:20 is an answer to the question what about people, especially in history but even currently, who have never been exposed to Christ teachings. The answer is that they are without excuse because his invisible power and deity is perceived in all things, even the trees and grass and the sky (paraphrased). So, aliens would have the same opportunity and be without excuse. To me, this refuted the claim that only by accepting Jesus unto your heart can you be saved. There are other paths according to this verse and even more it makes sense in terms of a just God. Aliens would also be exposed to the wonders of the universe no matter what part of the universe they hail from.
Your "it wouldn't make sense theologically&qu... (show quote)


Sorry wood, Jesus is the only name by which you can claim heirship and get to heaven. Acts 4:12
But welcome anyway!😄😄

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May 23, 2023 09:54:09   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
Ronald Hatt wrote:
**ALIENS 'DO EXIST"...THEY ARE CALLED DEMONRATS! , , , , ,
**ALIENS 'DO EXIST"...THEY ARE CALLED DEMONRA... (show quote)


Poster-child is former mayor, beetlejuice !

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May 23, 2023 11:41:40   #
Woodzter
 
I am agnostic, however I'm not sure that was relevant to my take on aliens not being exposed to Christ so they can't exist. I find that argument lacking. I was raised going to church and Sunday school, went to church camp every summer and I've studied the bible a wee bit. So, I have an opinion. I think it's well thought out. What significance do you put on Romans 1:20 ? I like to think that if there is an after life, God has a special regard for atheists who managed to be good humans without the promise of heaven or the threat of eternal damnation.

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May 23, 2023 11:52:59   #
Woodzter
 
Well if that is true, a lot of good buddists are going to hell along with many other decent people. That's not a God that I would worship. I think the meaning of Romans 1:20 is that what matters is what's in your heart, not what's in your head. In fact, there's reason to believe that much of that one way to salvation was written for the Gospel of John, which was written last, way after Christ's death. A lot of politics were involved early on when the good book was cannonized. If I was still a Christian, I would rely more on the other 3 gospels. But thanks for the welcome. I feel like I've discovered a safe place where good people can disagree :) Also, I like to think there are aliens although I admit the evidence is sketchy.

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