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Russia Says Has Photos Of Ukraine Deploying BUK Missiles In East, Radar Proof Of Warplanes In MH17 Vicinity
Jul 21, 2014 10:03:56   #
Patty
 
Russia Says Has Photos Of Ukraine Deploying BUK Missiles In East, Radar Proof Of Warplanes In MH17 Vicinity
Tyler Durden's pictureSubmitted by Tyler Durden on 07/21/2014 09:45 -0400

Ukraine hasn’t said how it immediately knew rebels downed Malaysian plane, notes the Russian Foreign Ministry, as it unveils 10 awkward questions for Ukraine (and perhaps the US 'snap judgment') to answer about the MH17 disaster. However, what is perhaps more concerning for the hordes of finger-pointers is that:

•RUSSIA HAS IMAGES OF UKRAINE DEPLOYING BUK ROCKETS IN EAST: IFX
•RUSSIA: UKRAINE MOVED BUK NEAR REBELS IN DONETSK JULY 17: IFX
•RUSSIA DETECTED UKRAINIAN FIGHTER JET PICK UP SPEED TOWARD MH17
Obviously, if there is proof that this is so, aside from CIA-created YouTube clips, these would deal another unpleasant blow to US foreign policy.

The Russian defense ministry during its press conference which concluded minutes ago:





Here is the full clip of the Russian ministry releasing its own forensic analysis of what happened to flight MH17 (with English translation).




Russia wants to know why Ukraine moved its BUK missiles systems the day of the MH17 crash:

•RUSSIAN GENERAL STAFF HAS SPACE IMAGES OF SECTORS OF UKRAINIAN FORCES' POSITIONS IN SOUTHEASTERN UKRAINE, INCLUDING BUK MISSILE LUNCH SITES 8 KILOMETERS FROM LUHANSK - RUSSIAN DEFENSE MINISTRY - interfax

The day the Malaysian airliner crashed, the Ukrainian forces deployed an air defense group of three or four Buk-M1 missile batteries near Donetsk, Lt. Gen. Andrei Kartapolov, head of the Russian General Staff's Main Operations Department, told reporters on Monday.



"These surface-to-air systems are capable of hitting targets at a distance of up to 35 kilometers at an altitude of 22 kilometers. For what purpose and against whom were these missile systems deployed? As is known, the militia has no aviation," he said.

Russia has the flight paths of the Ukrainian fighters and MH17. Furthermore, it is asking the same question we asked last Thurday:

•RUSSIA SAYS MH17 DIVERGED 14 KM FROM FLIGHT PATH NEAR DONETSK
And wants to know why. The image (as seen in the presentation above) allegedly shows Ukraine fighter jets near MH17:





And asks for US proof of their accusations:

•RUSSIA SAYS U.S. SATELLITE FLEW OVER MH17 AT TIME IT WAS DOWNED... which would provide all the proof needed to show who is responsible - so why hasn't the US explained this or shown it?
•RUSSIA ASKS U.S. FOR EVIDENCE ROCKET FIRED FROM REBEL-HELD AREA
•RUSSIA: NO U.S. PROOF THAT MISSILE FIRED FROM REBEL-HELD AREA
•DEFENCE MINISTRY SAYS RUSSIA DID NOT DELIVER ANY SA-11 BUK MISSILE SYSTEMS TO SEPARATISTS IN EASTERN UKRAINE "OR ANY OTHER WEAPONS"
And went on to rebuke all the Twitter photos created by Maidan to 'prove' the BUKs were moving in Russian hands.

Summing it all up, the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, has 10 questions for Ukraine (google translated)


The global public expects a speedy and independent investigation into the causes of the disaster Malaysian aircraft in the airspace of Ukraine.

In order to conduct an objective investigation of possible leadership of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has ased ten questions to the Ukrainian side.


1. Ukrainian authorities immediately identified the militia as the perpetrators of the tragedy. What is the basis of such findings?



2. Could official Kiev to report all the details of using [BUKs] in a war zone? Most importantly - why these systems are deployed there, as the militia no planes?



3. What are the causes of inactivity of Ukrainian authorities on the formation of an international commission? When such a committee will work?



4. Are the armed forces of Ukraine international experts to present papers on accounting for missiles, air-to-air and ground-to-air ammo and anti-aircraft missiles?



5. Whether these funds objective control on the movement of the Ukrainian Air Force aircraft on the day of the tragedy brought international commission?



6. Why Ukrainian air traffic controllers allowed deviation of the route of the aircraft to the north side of the "anti-terrorist operation zone"?



7. Why was not completely closed to civilian aircraft airspace over the combat zone, especially because in this area there was no solid field of radar navigation?



8. Could official Kiev to comment on reports in the net, ostensibly on behalf of the Spanish air traffic controllers working in Ukraine, which shot down over the territory of Ukraine "Boeing" was accompanied by two Ukrainian military aircraft?



9. Why Security Service of Ukraine has begun without international representatives work with recordings of talks with Ukrainian crew dispatchers "Boeing" and Ukrainian radar data?



10. How were the lessons from previous similar disasters Russian Tu-154 in 2001 in the Black Sea? Then the leaders of Ukraine until the last minute denied any involvement of the Armed Forces of the country to the tragedy until irrefutable evidence showed no guilt official Kiev.

Unfortunately, there has been no response by the Ukraine side to these questions so far. We expect that there will be some answers.

* * *

Needless to say, this places Ukraine and The US (as main protagonist of "finger pointer") in an awkward position as finally someone, somewhere will have to present some actual facts instead of merely continuing the "emotional appeals" propaganda.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSpeo5RcQQo&feature=player_embedded



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Jul 21, 2014 11:31:49   #
Patty
 
Update.
"‘Ukrainian Buk missile system transported to militia-held area’

In addition, MH17 crashed within the operating zone of the Ukrainian army’s self-propelled, medium-range surface-to-air ‘Buk’ missile systems, the Russian general said.

“We have space images of certain places where the Ukraine’s air defense was located in the southeast of the country,” Kartapolov noted.

The first three shots that were shown by the general are dated July 14. The images show Buk missile launch systems in about 8km northwest of the city of Lugansk – a self-propelled vehicle and two launchers, according to the military official.
Another image shows a radar station near Donetsk.


Radar stations of the air defense in Donetsk Region, 5km north of Donetsk city, on July 14, 2014.Photo courtesy of the Russian Defense Ministry
Radar stations of the air defense in Donetsk Region, 5km north of Donetsk city, on July 14, 2014.Photo courtesy of the Russian Defense Ministry


While the third picture shows the location of the air defense systems near Donetsk, he explained. In particular, one can clearly see the self-propelled system, about 60 units of military and special equipment, he elaborated.


Buk missile defense units in Donetsk Region, 5km north of Donetsk city, on July 14, 2014.Photo courtesy of the Russian Defense Ministry
Buk missile defense units in Donetsk Region, 5km north of Donetsk city, on July 14, 2014.Photo courtesy of the Russian Defense Ministry


“Images from this area were also made on July 17. One should notice that the missile launcher is absent [from the scene]. Image number five shows the Buk missile system in the morning of the same day in the area of settlement Zaroschinskoe – 50km south of Donetsk and 8km south of Shakhtyorsk," the Kartapolov said


No Buk missile defense units in Donetsk Region, 5km north of Donetsk city, on July 17, 2014.Photo courtesy of the Russian Defense Ministry
No Buk missile defense units in Donetsk Region, 5km north of Donetsk city, on July 17, 2014.Photo courtesy of the Russian Defense Ministry



Buk missile defense units in Zaroschinskoe, 50km south of Donetsk city and 8km south of Shakhtyorsk, on July 17, 2014.Photo courtesy of the Russian Defense Ministry
Buk missile defense units in Zaroschinskoe, 50km south of Donetsk city and 8km south of Shakhtyorsk, on July 17, 2014.Photo courtesy of the Russian Defense Ministry


The question that has to be answered is why the missile system appeared in the area controlled by the local militia forces shortly before the catastrophe, he stated.

Images taken on July 18 show that the missile systems left the area of the MH17 crash on July 17, the military official said.

Kartapolov also pointed to the fact that on the day of the plane crash Ukraine’s military increased the intensity of the radar stations of the Buk missile systems.

In response to Moscow’s evidence, Kiev said on Monday it had proof the missile that brought down a Malaysian airliner last week came from Russia."
Of course it is Russian made. That who they bought them from.









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Jul 21, 2014 13:21:13   #
jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI
 
My, my, the Russian operation for damage control and cover up of its Ukraine disaster is in full swing! Careful now...US has complete documentation of what happened and is not releasing it to avoid escalating world indignation and in prospect of leaving room for Putin to settle justly with Ukraine and not lose too much more face than already lost. The shooting down of the passenger plane thinking it was Ukraine military plane was a tragedy resulting from Russia's promotion of separatist movement in Eastern Ukraine..."collateral damage" from Russian aggressive geopolitical action...an event that dramatized the wrong Russia was doing in Ukraine (and got away with in Georgia a few years ago), but a situation that should not be escalated into worse Russian actions but instead lead to Russia's ceasing interference in Ukrainian internal affairs. Russian failure to signal reasonable settlement could lead to complete release of US documentation. America and Europe want to leave room for Russia's cooperation in Middle East, transition to Euro cooperation, and end to nationalist fascist geopolitical aspirations. The issue is not Ukraine but Russian aggressive geopolitics and how to contain them and turn them around.

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Jul 21, 2014 13:22:37   #
Patty
 
http://www.globalresearch.ca/mh17-show-tell-its-the-wests-turn-russian-satellites-and-radars-contradict-wests-baseless-claims/5392468
Game over. Give it up Richard.
jonhatfield wrote:
My, my, the Russian operation for damage control and cover up of its Ukraine disaster is in full swing! Careful now...US has complete documentation of what happened and is not releasing it to avoid escalating world indignation and in prospect of leaving room for Putin to settle justly with Ukraine and not lose too much more face than already lost. The shooting down of the passenger plane thinking it was Ukraine military plane was a tragedy resulting from Russia's promotion of separatist movement in Eastern Ukraine..."collateral damage" from Russian aggressive geopolitical action...an event that dramatized the wrong Russia was doing in Ukraine (and got away with in Georgia a few years ago), but a situation that should not be escalated into worse Russian actions but instead lead to Russia's ceasing interference in Ukrainian internal affairs. Russian failure to signal reasonable settlement could lead to complete release of US documentation. America and Europe want to leave room for Russia's cooperation in Middle East, transition to Euro cooperation, and end to nationalist fascist geopolitical aspirations. The issue is not Ukraine but Russian aggressive geopolitics and how to contain them and turn them around.
My, my, the Russian operation for damage control a... (show quote)


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