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Feb 13, 2022 15:48:32   #
rumitoid
 
Zemirah wrote:
rumitoid, not to worry, what you fully intended to say, it is likely you did, and God understood.

From my own experience in past years, in writing expositions on biblical truths (including inserting bits of historical backgrounds known to me from other sources), in what seemed a perfectly clear and cohesive manner; my son would read through, and tell me, "I believe as you moved from this paragraph to the following one, you omitted any reference to six books you've read and internalized.

To the reader, it will be a permanent bar they cannot cross - superfluous details unrelated to the text being covered.

I do not mean to insinuate you would ever have such a problem, but there is always the possibility that what you clearly wrote, I failed to comprehend.
rumitoid, not to worry, what you fully intended to... (show quote)


Thank you, but I always welcome and listen to and meditate on. You are a phenomenon. (Write a book!)

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Feb 13, 2022 15:53:09   #
rumitoid
 
Marty 2020 wrote:
Clearly, the comprehension challenges are due to the writer. Not him personally, but every writer. If the teaching is ultimately from God (rhema), then comprehension will occur. If I tell you what I think I know, you might agree, you might not. If I tell you what the HS taught me, you WILL agree, unless of course, you don’t have ears to hear. It’s also dependent upon where you are in your walk with Christ.
I may not be ready for meat and only capable of milk.
Regardless of the teaching, always be like the Bereans. Checking to see if it is so.
Time to get off the soap box.
Clearly, the comprehension challenges are due to t... (show quote)


Beautiful. Love your humble honesty. You are, unfortunately, a rare individual here. I wish every Christian would listen and practice your advice, including me. I never say that my view at where I am presently is capital "T"ruth.

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Feb 13, 2022 18:27:57   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
Meditate on Written Scripture. Please.

rumitoid wrote:
Thank you, but I always welcome and listen to and meditate on. You are a phenomenon. (Write a book!)

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Feb 13, 2022 18:44:35   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
Marty, I had to search NAR online -

Came up with 1) National Association of REALTORS,

2) National Association of Rocketry,

and Bingo, 3) New Apostolic Reformation (NAR)

"The New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) is a dominionist (Dominion Theology-ish) movement which asserts that God is restoring the lost offices of church governance, namely the offices of Prophet and Apostle.

"Leading figures in this seemingly loosely organized movement claim that these prophets and apostles alone have the power and authority to execute God's plans and purposes on earth.

"They believe they are laying the foundation for a global church, governed by themselves.

"They place a greater emphasis on dreams, visions and extra-biblical revelation than they do on the Bible, claiming that their revealed teachings and reported experiences (e.g. trips to heaven, face-to-face conversations with Jesus, visits by angels) can not be proven by the "old" Scripture."

...and the capstone to the expose/report on NAR was by Dr. John MacArthur:

"NAR, the New Apostolic Reformation. … It is like Grape Nuts – it’s not grapes and it’s not nuts.
It’s like Christian Science – it’s not Christian and it’s not scientific.
Well, the New Apostolic Reformation isn’t new, it isn’t apostolic, and it isn’t a reformation.
But it is a rapidly expanding movement being generated by some of the same old troubling false teachers and false leaders that have been around in Charismania for decades, always dishonoring the Holy Spirit, always dishonoring the Scripture, always claiming miracle signs, wonders, visions, dreams." ~ John MacArthur

Marty 2020 wrote:
Thanks for the truth. There’s other organizations like this in play. NAR is probably the only one I have seen in person, where there are people who think they are apostles and are giving the kingdom over to Jesus at His return. No rapture, no wedding feast, no tribulation!
Deniers of truth.
Bethel church in Redding California is a player.
The Bible says what He means and He means what He says!

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Feb 13, 2022 19:11:45   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
Zemirah wrote:
Marty, I had to search NAR online -

Came up with 1) National Association of REALTORS,

2) National Association of Rocketry,

and Bingo, 3) New Apostolic Reformation (NAR)

"The New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) is a dominionist (Dominion Theology-ish) movement which asserts that God is restoring the lost offices of church governance, namely the offices of Prophet and Apostle.

"Leading figures in this seemingly loosely organized movement claim that these prophets and apostles alone have the power and authority to execute God's plans and purposes on earth.

"They believe they are laying the foundation for a global church, governed by themselves.

"They place a greater emphasis on dreams, visions and extra-biblical revelation than they do on the Bible, claiming that their revealed teachings and reported experiences (e.g. trips to heaven, face-to-face conversations with Jesus, visits by angels) can not be proven by the "old" Scripture."

...and the capstone to the expose/report on NAR was by Dr. John MacArthur:

"NAR, the New Apostolic Reformation. … It is like Grape Nuts – it’s not grapes and it’s not nuts.
It’s like Christian Science – it’s not Christian and it’s not scientific.
Well, the New Apostolic Reformation isn’t new, it isn’t apostolic, and it isn’t a reformation.
But it is a rapidly expanding movement being generated by some of the same old troubling false teachers and false leaders that have been around in Charismania for decades, always dishonoring the Holy Spirit, always dishonoring the Scripture, always claiming miracle signs, wonders, visions, dreams." ~ John MacArthur
Marty, I had to search NAR online - br br Came up... (show quote)

Exactly!
Bethel in Redding California
Hillsong everywhere
Others too I’ve just forgotten the names.

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