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Can drinking urine cure COVID? U of L doctor's response to anti-vaxxer's claim goes viral
Jan 14, 2022 21:30:29   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/tweet-kidney-doctor-u-l-181023786.html

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Jan 14, 2022 21:40:12   #
keepuphope Loc: Idaho
 
Bad Bob wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/tweet-kidney-doctor-u-l-181023786.html


Do you idiots ever stop to think people are screwing with you.Just to get a rise since its so easy. I don't know anyone so stupid that would even believe that I live in rural Idaho. You guys are bloody petrified of covid. We're not.

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Jan 14, 2022 23:22:39   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
keepuphope wrote:
Do you idiots ever stop to think people are screwing with you.Just to get a rise since its so easy. I don't know anyone so stupid that would even believe that I live in rural Idaho. You guys are bloody petrified of covid. We're not.


Well at least a lot of the trump cult doesn't have worms.

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Jan 15, 2022 10:11:23   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
keepuphope wrote:
Do you idiots ever stop to think people are screwing with you.Just to get a rise since its so easy. I don't know anyone so stupid that would even believe that I live in rural Idaho. You guys are bloody petrified of covid. We're not.


keep, If you are not scared of covid, you ought to be. It has killed over eight hundred thousand Americans. Thats more people that died in the Civil War, or any other war. I hope that your family stays healthy. The latest variant of this plague doesn't seem to be as deadly as the Delta variant, but can still cause serious illness and death, and is far more contagious.

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Jan 15, 2022 10:29:53   #
keepuphope Loc: Idaho
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
keep, If you are not scared of covid, you ought to be. It has killed over eight hundred thousand Americans. Thats more people that died in the Civil War, or any other war. I hope that your family stays healthy. The latest variant of this plague doesn't seem to be as deadly as the Delta variant, but can still cause serious illness and death, and is far more contagious.


I'm 65 have Conjestive Heart Failure had in in November. Was sick for a couple weeks, survived.Yes it kills people just like the flu a little more lethal.Our fearless leaders are hyping this to the hilt. Ask yourself why in the last 2 years they haven't looked into other drugs to lessen the severity of it instead of just pushing the shot? Other countries are using a variety of drugs that have proven themselves to be helpful. Mum on our officials part.Its not a vaccine it's equivalent to a flu shot. Vaccines PREVENT you from getting the disease this doesn't.

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Jan 15, 2022 13:53:48   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
keep, If you are not scared of covid, you ought to be. It has killed over eight hundred thousand Americans. Thats more people that died in the Civil War, or any other war. I hope that your family stays healthy. The latest variant of this plague doesn't seem to be as deadly as the Delta variant, but can still cause serious illness and death, and is far more contagious.



Check out how many hundreds of thousands Remdesivir.
The national protocol used in hospitals is murdering hundreds of thousands and then listed as covid death.
The actual number of deaths directly related to covid is less than 30,000
This is no longer a conspiracy but fact.
May also check out why the privately owned CDC is changing (lowering) deaths by covid.

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Jan 15, 2022 14:01:13   #
keepuphope Loc: Idaho
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Check out how many hundreds of thousands Remdesivir.
The national protocol used in hospitals is murdering hundreds of thousands and then listed as covid death.
The actual number of deaths directly related to covid is less than 30,000
This is no longer a conspiracy but fact.
May also check out why the privately owned CDC is changing (lowering) deaths by covid.


Yes lowering deaths cause it looks bad for Biden as there were more deaths under him than Trump. Trump didn't even have the vaxx until a month before he left office.

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Jan 15, 2022 16:11:08   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
keepuphope wrote:
Yes lowering deaths cause it looks bad for Biden as there were more deaths under him than Trump. Trump didn't even have the vaxx until a month before he left office.



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Jan 16, 2022 00:22:07   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Bad Bob wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/tweet-kidney-doctor-u-l-181023786.html


Sure, yeah it will cure you !!!
And go ahead and jump , I’m sure you’re gonna fly ,dude !
No , really !!!
You can fly !!!!

For every one ounce of salt water ingested,
One needs 3 ounces of fresh water to flush it out. So, if your dying of thirst , do not drink urine.

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Jan 16, 2022 02:23:38   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Well at least a lot of the trump cult doesn't have worms.
The Mayo Clinic and a Japanese Medical Research team have developed a prescription dosage of horse dewormer (Ivermectin) for human patients suffering Covid infection.

U.S. Library of Medicine, National Institutes of Health published the following:

Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infection: A Systematic Review, Meta-analysis, and Trial Sequential Analysis to Inform Clinical Guidelines

Background:

Repurposed medicines may have a role against the SARS-CoV-2 virus. The antiparasitic ivermectin, with antiviral and anti-inflammatory properties, has now been tested in numerous clinical trials.

Areas of uncertainty:

We assessed the efficacy of ivermectin treatment in reducing mortality, in secondary outcomes, and in chemoprophylaxis, among people with, or at high risk of, COVID-19 infection.

Data sources:

We searched bibliographic databases up to April 25, 2021. Two review authors sifted for studies, extracted data, and assessed risk of bias. Meta-analyses were conducted and certainty of the evidence was assessed using the GRADE approach and additionally in trial sequential analyses for mortality. Twenty-four randomized controlled trials involving 3406 participants met review inclusion.

Therapeutic Advances:

Meta-analysis of 15 trials found that ivermectin reduced risk of death compared with no ivermectin (average risk ratio 0.38, 95% confidence interval 0.19–0.73; n = 2438; I2 = 49%; moderate-certainty evidence). This result was confirmed in a trial sequential analysis using the same DerSimonian–Laird method that underpinned the unadjusted analysis. This was also robust against a trial sequential analysis using the Biggerstaff–Tweedie method. Low-certainty evidence found that ivermectin prophylaxis reduced COVID-19 infection by an average 86% (95% confidence interval 79%–91%). Secondary outcomes provided less certain evidence. Low-certainty evidence suggested that there may be no benefit with ivermectin for “need for mechanical ventilation,” whereas effect estimates for “improvement” and “deterioration” clearly favored ivermectin use. Severe adverse events were rare among treatment trials and evidence of no difference was assessed as low certainty. Evidence on other secondary outcomes was very low certainty.

Conclusions:

Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.

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Jan 16, 2022 06:41:13   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
The Mayo Clinic and a Japanese Medical Research team have developed a prescription dosage of horse dewormer (Ivermectin) for human patients suffering Covid infection.

U.S. Library of Medicine, National Institutes of Health published the following:

Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infection: A Systematic Review, Meta-analysis, and Trial Sequential Analysis to Inform Clinical Guidelines

Background:

Repurposed medicines may have a role against the SARS-CoV-2 virus. The antiparasitic ivermectin, with antiviral and anti-inflammatory properties, has now been tested in numerous clinical trials.

Areas of uncertainty:

We assessed the efficacy of ivermectin treatment in reducing mortality, in secondary outcomes, and in chemoprophylaxis, among people with, or at high risk of, COVID-19 infection.

Data sources:

We searched bibliographic databases up to April 25, 2021. Two review authors sifted for studies, extracted data, and assessed risk of bias. Meta-analyses were conducted and certainty of the evidence was assessed using the GRADE approach and additionally in trial sequential analyses for mortality. Twenty-four randomized controlled trials involving 3406 participants met review inclusion.

Therapeutic Advances:

Meta-analysis of 15 trials found that ivermectin reduced risk of death compared with no ivermectin (average risk ratio 0.38, 95% confidence interval 0.19–0.73; n = 2438; I2 = 49%; moderate-certainty evidence). This result was confirmed in a trial sequential analysis using the same DerSimonian–Laird method that underpinned the unadjusted analysis. This was also robust against a trial sequential analysis using the Biggerstaff–Tweedie method. Low-certainty evidence found that ivermectin prophylaxis reduced COVID-19 infection by an average 86% (95% confidence interval 79%–91%). Secondary outcomes provided less certain evidence. Low-certainty evidence suggested that there may be no benefit with ivermectin for “need for mechanical ventilation,” whereas effect estimates for “improvement” and “deterioration” clearly favored ivermectin use. Severe adverse events were rare among treatment trials and evidence of no difference was assessed as low certainty. Evidence on other secondary outcomes was very low certainty.

Conclusions:

Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.
The Mayo Clinic and a Japanese Medical Research te... (show quote)


https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/mayo-clinic-doctor-on-people-using-horse-drug-ivermectin-for-covid-its-hard-to-explain.

"If I said to you, you know what, instead of an FDA-approved vaccine that's been tested in hundreds of thousands of people. Instead, let's take a drug that's used to treat parasites," Poland said on the Mayo Clinic podcast. "And many people are buying it over the counter in an animal treatment preparation that hasn't been studied for this, which makes people sick, can cause hallucinations, coma, and if you take it when you're pregnant, can cause birth defects, and let's use that instead."

In May, the University of Minnesota Medical School began a $1.5 million clinical trial of ivermectin to treat COVID-19. The school, as of Aug. 11, said existing trials show "mixed results," noting "there is insufficient data at this time to recommend its use in COVID-19." As for trials that suggest some potential benefit, the school says these studies are not peer-reviewed and have various flaws, including a small sample size and inconsistent dosage.

Poland described these existing studies as "very poorly conducted trials," noting the Cochrane Collaboration said there's no data to suggest ivermectin is effective at treating COVID-19.

Merck, which produces ivermectin and would benefit financially from a surge in sales, even said earlier this year there is "no scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19," "no meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease," and a "concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies."

The CDC also noted five times as many ivermectin-related calls coming into poison control centers in July 2021 compared to before the pandemic. These calls often involve "adverse effects and emergency department/hospital visits," the CDC said.

The Minnesota Poison Control Center told Bring Me The News it received nine calls for ivermectin exposure in August.

"So, this is one of those, you can't even believe that you're seeing and hearing this," Poland said. "You can't believe the number of calls to poison control centers as people take this drug unregulated, often taking the animal preparation, which is not FDA regulated, has other ingredients in it that human forms of the drug do not have, and they're getting sick, and no benefit.

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Jan 16, 2022 09:47:21   #
Rose42
 
Bad Bob wrote:
https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/mayo-clinic-doctor-on-people-using-horse-drug-ivermectin-for-covid-its-hard-to-explain.

"If I said to you, you know what, instead of an FDA-approved vaccine that's been tested in hundreds of thousands of people. Instead, let's take a drug that's used to treat parasites," Poland said on the Mayo Clinic podcast. "And many people are buying it over the counter in an animal treatment preparation that hasn't been studied for this, which makes people sick, can cause hallucinations, coma, and if you take it when you're pregnant, can cause birth defects, and let's use that instead."

In May, the University of Minnesota Medical School began a $1.5 million clinical trial of ivermectin to treat COVID-19. The school, as of Aug. 11, said existing trials show "mixed results," noting "there is insufficient data at this time to recommend its use in COVID-19." As for trials that suggest some potential benefit, the school says these studies are not peer-reviewed and have various flaws, including a small sample size and inconsistent dosage.

Poland described these existing studies as "very poorly conducted trials," noting the Cochrane Collaboration said there's no data to suggest ivermectin is effective at treating COVID-19.

Merck, which produces ivermectin and would benefit financially from a surge in sales, even said earlier this year there is "no scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19," "no meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease," and a "concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies."

The CDC also noted five times as many ivermectin-related calls coming into poison control centers in July 2021 compared to before the pandemic. These calls often involve "adverse effects and emergency department/hospital visits," the CDC said.

The Minnesota Poison Control Center told Bring Me The News it received nine calls for ivermectin exposure in August.

"So, this is one of those, you can't even believe that you're seeing and hearing this," Poland said. "You can't believe the number of calls to poison control centers as people take this drug unregulated, often taking the animal preparation, which is not FDA regulated, has other ingredients in it that human forms of the drug do not have, and they're getting sick, and no benefit.
https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/mayo-cli... (show quote)


You have to think bob. Merck would make far less money with ivermectin. Much of the article is nonsense not to mention ignorant

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Jan 16, 2022 10:04:45   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Rose42 wrote:
You have to think bob. Merck would make far less money with ivermectin. Much of the article is nonsense not to mention ignorant


You're calling Mayo Clinic doctors ignorant?



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Jan 16, 2022 15:25:25   #
Rose42
 
Bad Bob wrote:
You're calling Mayo Clinic doctors ignorant?


Oh to let others tell you what to think. There is plenty of evidence that ivermectin can work if used early. But that evidence is from those who aren’t under Big Pharma’s thumb.

The article is indeed ignorant.

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Jan 16, 2022 15:42:35   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Rose42 wrote:
Oh to let others tell you what to think. There is plenty of evidence that ivermectin can work if used early. But that evidence is from those who aren’t under Big Pharma’s thumb.

The article is indeed ignorant.



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