Here is why the hypocritical democrats want to change the filibuster rule:: They want to hijack, from the states, control of the voting process, to make it much easier to cheat. It's...

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

They want to hijack, from the states, control of the voting process, to make it much easier to cheat. It's all right here:

https://www.heritage.org/election-integrity/report/the-facts-about-hr-1-the-the-people-act-2019

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

nwtk2007 wrote:

They want to hijack, from the states, control of the voting process, to make it much easier to cheat. It's all right here:

https://www.heritage.org/election-integrity/report/the-facts-about-hr-1-the-the-people-act-2019

Heritage AKA Koch brothers propaganda Unit.
It is unconstitutional to allow onee we or two people to destroy the entire process obliterating the Will Of The People favoring a minority rule.
It’s anti American and un constitutional .
It has no bearing in the Constitution , it is not mentioned or written anywhere that a minority should have ascendency over the Majority.

Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.

nwtk2007 wrote:

They want to hijack, from the states, control of the voting process, to make it much easier to cheat. It's all right here:

https://www.heritage.org/election-integrity/report/the-facts-about-hr-1-the-the-people-act-2019

They missed one of the biggies that the democrats originally had in the bill. Public funding of presidential and congressional elections. I don't know, but, if still in this bill, or slipped back into this bill, this funding will massively fill political election coffers with tax payer money by a 3 to 1 match on political donations. In 2020 14 billion was spent on the federal election. Under this bill the tax payers would add another 56 billion to the politicians coffers. Tax payers will be fleeced by 10's of billions in tax payers money which would be given to individual politicians to keep forever and use at will. It doesn't discourage campaign fund raising. It massively expands the incentive with matching funds.

moldyoldy

Strycker wrote:

They missed one of the biggies that the democrats ... (show quote)

It would take politics out of the hands of corporate lobbyists. They could finally start working for the people.

American Vet

moldyoldy wrote:

It would take politics out of the hands of corporate lobbyists. They could finally start working for the people.

And who gets to decide who gets the money and how much?

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Milosia2 wrote:

Heritage AKA Koch brothers propaganda Unit.
It is unconstitutional to allow onee we or two people to destroy the entire process obliterating the Will Of The People favoring a minority rule.
It’s anti American and un constitutional .
It has no bearing in the Constitution , it is not mentioned or written anywhere that a minority should have ascendency over the Majority.

And that is exactly why we need to stop the democrats!!

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

moldyoldy wrote:

It would take politics out of the hands of corporate lobbyists. They could finally start working for the people.

See Stryker's comment earlier in this thread.

Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.

moldyoldy wrote:

It would take politics out of the hands of corporate lobbyists. They could finally start working for the people.

Totally and completely wrong. Corporate lobbyist will still contribute. Probably much much more since the tax payers will match contributions 3 to 1. It would only encourage more and larger contributions. Not less.

moldyoldy

American Vet wrote:

And who gets to decide who gets the money and how much?

It would be equally distributed

Smedley_buzkill

Milosia2 wrote:

Heritage AKA Koch brothers propaganda Unit.
It is unconstitutional to allow onee we or two people to destroy the entire process obliterating the Will Of The People favoring a minority rule.
It’s anti American and un constitutional .
It has no bearing in the Constitution , it is not mentioned or written anywhere that a minority should have ascendency over the Majority.

The entire purpose of the Electoral College, and state control of voting is to prevent one or two populous states from dictating to the others. A democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for supper. A Republic, such as we have, is two wolves and a sheep with a gun voting on the same thing. The Electoral College and state control of elections are that gun. To say that all of a sudden, the same voting process we have had for all these years is suppressive is disingenuous in the extreme. Most of the supposedly disenfranchised people who have no ID receive some sort of government stipend for which ID suitable for voting is REQUIRED. To insist that you prove you are whom you say is not suppression; it is protection.
Colorado's mail in voting was instituted about twenty years ago when the state had a small population and fairly low voter turnout. easy to monitor and fix the bugs. 2020 was the highest turnout in out history with bandaids everywhere.

Smedley_buzkill

moldyoldy wrote:

It would take politics out of the hands of corporate lobbyists. They could finally start working for the people.

The past two elections, firms associated with Wall Street and large corporations have donated more money to Democrats than Republicans. Maybe you think it's because they WANT to pay higher taxes.

moldyoldy

Smedley_buzkill wrote:

The entire purpose of the Electoral College, and s... (show quote)

The same process? The republicans are changing the process in every state possible. Why? Voter suppression, because they have no plans for governing, so they have to stop voters who have brains from voting.

moldyoldy

Smedley_buzkill wrote:

The past two elections, firms associated with Wall Street and large corporations have donated more money to Democrats than Republicans. Maybe you think it's because they WANT to pay higher taxes.

Can you prove that claim? Citizens United, pushed by the Koch’s claims corporations are people.

Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.

moldyoldy wrote:

It would be equally distributed

Totally wrong again. It is a matching funds. The more you raise the more the tax payers give you in matching dollars.

American Vet

moldyoldy wrote:

It would be equally distributed

So I can declare myself a candidate for President, get someone to donate to my campaign, and the government will do a 3-1 contribution to my campaign?

LOL

Sounds like a good way to fleece the taxpayers!!!! No wonder leftoids like it.....