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Jan 23, 2021 18:06:07   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
ACP45 wrote:
Funny how that works

Examples:

NPR headline the day before the inauguration:

"As Death Rate Accelerates, U.S. Records 400,000 Lives Lost to the Coronavirus"

NPR headline the day after the inauguration:

"Current, Deadly U.S. Coronavirus Surge Has Peaked, Experts Say"

Then, too:

The governor of Kansas lowered the PCR testing threshold (it's still too high, but that's a step in the right direction).

Washington, D.C., is reopening bars and restaurants, and Massachusetts is easing restrictions.

In Chicago, the mayor is calling for bars and restaurants to reopen as soon as possible, and unionized teachers are being punished for not returning to in-person instruction.

The so-called Republican governor of Maryland is suddenly demanding the return of in-person schooling, arguing that there is absolutely no scientific justification for any further delay.

The governor of New York urging that the state must reopen or "nothing left to open."

And then the World Health Organization issued a document, one hour after Biden was sworn in, explaining that PCR cycle thresholds were too high, and our obsession with asymptomatics too great.

https://mailchi.mp/tomwoods/downward?e=63c138c1cb
Funny how that works br br Examples: br br NPR h... (show quote)


Was always the plan... Said as much many times for others to deny it...

Now its in action. Action defines, words are cheap!!!interesting yet we’re being warned another strain that supposedly can kill you quicker or the first alternate strain that could infect you quicker, is running ram-pet...And yet as you point out what you see Is all these places opening back up being ordered to open back, color codes Reducing to yellow, kids already back in school Etc..

What you don’t see though are the government buildings opening up, you still can’t get into the drivers license division with an appointment, some locations you can’t get to the Social Security office and all of the locations they’re not taking any live person interviews so you have to do everything by phone. Your city municipalities not open, phone or email only...

What a scam!!!

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Jan 23, 2021 20:53:38   #
Grugore
 
roy wrote:
Tell that to all the people with covid ,tell that to the bodies ,in the cold storage .Its only real to people that get it and die .Seems there's been alot of people that doubt ed the virus, and as you people seem to say its fake ,there are many that doubted it till they got it and changed and changed it. It only takes a fool to say its all fake ,and liberals some how used it to defeat trump ,if trump had took control of the virus in the first place ,he would probably ,still be president.


So what you're saying is that if Trump had handled things differently, the deep state wouldn't have committed massive voter fraud... BWAHAHAHA!

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Jan 23, 2021 22:25:45   #
albets
 
roy wrote:
Tell that to all the people with covid ,tell that to the bodies ,in the cold storage .Its only real to people that get it and die .Seems there's been alot of people that doubt ed the virus, and as you people seem to say its fake ,there are many that doubted it till they got it and changed and changed it. It only takes a fool to say its all fake ,and liberals some how used it to defeat trump ,if trump had took control of the virus in the first place ,he would probably ,still be president.


i am 79 yrs old and sothere would be scared ot it ... i stay right at home. yes, if trump would have done something earlier, there wouldn'tbe so many thousands dead right now !! maybe biden can help everyone this, get more people vaccinated, and for the good Lords sake... please all wear your masks !! we have to try everything the dr.s tell us to do.i have seen too many of my loved ones die from it... Bless you all, no matter what political you come from..

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Jan 23, 2021 23:25:17   #
JohnCorrespondent
 
ACP45 wrote:
Funny how that works

Examples:

NPR headline the day before the inauguration:

"As Death Rate Accelerates, U.S. Records 400,000 Lives Lost to the Coronavirus"

NPR headline the day after the inauguration:

"Current, Deadly U.S. Coronavirus Surge Has Peaked, Experts Say"

Then, too:

The governor of Kansas lowered the PCR testing threshold (it's still too high, but that's a step in the right direction).

Washington, D.C., is reopening bars and restaurants, and Massachusetts is easing restrictions.

In Chicago, the mayor is calling for bars and restaurants to reopen as soon as possible, and unionized teachers are being punished for not returning to in-person instruction.

The so-called Republican governor of Maryland is suddenly demanding the return of in-person schooling, arguing that there is absolutely no scientific justification for any further delay.

The governor of New York urging that the state must reopen or "nothing left to open."

And then the World Health Organization issued a document, one hour after Biden was sworn in, explaining that PCR cycle thresholds were too high, and our obsession with asymptomatics too great.

https://mailchi.mp/tomwoods/downward?e=63c138c1cb
Funny how that works br br Examples: br br NPR h... (show quote)


Looking at your title: "Now that the election is over - Covid hysteria is evaporating": Your phrase "Covid hysteria is evaporating" might be ambiguous. (Of course we would want _hysteria_ to evaporate and be replaced by, say, reason. But we don't want to trivialize a really serious situation. The pandemic's real. Hysteria would be an unhelpful response to it.) I hope to be less ambiguous. The pandemic keeps getting worse. We are lucky to have a president who behaves responsibly about it. All the indications I see show that we are in for a hard time for the next several months at least, because of this pandemic and the fact that, thus far, there hasn't been an adequate, coordinated national response to it. It will take a long time to undo the damage.

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Jan 24, 2021 06:10:11   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
JohnCorrespondent wrote:
Looking at your title: "Now that the election is over - Covid hysteria is evaporating": Your phrase "Covid hysteria is evaporating" might be ambiguous. (Of course we would want _hysteria_ to evaporate and be replaced by, say, reason. But we don't want to trivialize a really serious situation. The pandemic's real. Hysteria would be an unhelpful response to it.) I hope to be less ambiguous. The pandemic keeps getting worse. We are lucky to have a president who behaves responsibly about it. All the indications I see show that we are in for a hard time for the next several months at least, because of this pandemic and the fact that, thus far, there hasn't been an adequate, coordinated national response to it. It will take a long time to undo the damage.
Looking at your title: "Now that the electio... (show quote)


I prefer to get my information from real actual, practicing doctors, rather than political hacks, who have ties to Bill Gates. Ever hear of the organization America’s Front Line Doctors? Listen to what Dr. Simone Gold has to say on the subject of Covid 19, existing protocols for dealing with Covid-19, and the vaccine and see if this modifies your view at all.

https://youtu.be/z72zIfdnjC4
Dr. Simone Gold
www.aflds.com

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Jan 24, 2021 06:18:55   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
albets wrote:
i am 79 yrs old and sothere would be scared ot it ... i stay right at home. yes, if trump would have done something earlier, there wouldn'tbe so many thousands dead right now !! maybe biden can help everyone this, get more people vaccinated, and for the good Lords sake... please all wear your masks !! we have to try everything the dr.s tell us to do.i have seen too many of my loved ones die from it... Bless you all, no matter what political you come from..


"we have to try everything the dr.s tell us to do"

Exactly which doctors are you refering to Albets? Non practicing doctor and political appointee hack Tony Fauci or actual practicing doctors, treating real patients like those who comprise the group "America's Frontline Doctors".
https://a2i6k7n3.stackpathcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/SCOTUS.mp4#t=0.001
https://youtu.be/z72zIfdnjC4
Dr. Simone Gold

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Jan 24, 2021 18:52:01   #
JohnCorrespondent
 
ACP45 wrote:
I prefer to get my information from real actual, practicing doctors, rather than political hacks, who have ties to Bill Gates. Ever hear of the organization America’s Front Line Doctors? Listen to what Dr. Simone Gold has to say on the subject of Covid 19, existing protocols for dealing with Covid-19, and the vaccine and see if this modifies your view at all.

https://youtu.be/z72zIfdnjC4
Dr. Simone Gold
www.aflds.com


I watched the first 6 minutes of it (thus far). She says many deaths would not have happened -- but it's not clear why they would not have happened -- she drops the subject instead of completing it. Obviously she means "because of lies" but she doesn't identify a particular lie that makes sense in the context. Or at least I didn't get it. Close to that, she talks about how there _are_ treatments for Covid beyond what we are told -- and that's believable, but maybe not as significant as she indicates. It may be that _hospitals_ can't offer all the treatments because they don't have enough trained staff to handle all the cases. (I mean, I can see how "treatments" relates to "deaths would not have happened" but she doesn't make the connection really clear and the amount of significance or the context seem a little fuzzy to me.)

(But here's a treatment that anybody can do at home: "proning". I saw a video about it circulating around and I think it looks plausible. I think the public should have been told about that. But all I know about that is the one little video which appears to be common sense.)

She (Dr. Simone Gold) talks a little while about how the name changed from Wuhan virus to Covid-19 and she calls that a Big Lie but I am unimpressed. It's not _that_ important to me what the disease is called. But I can understand why a phrase like "Chinese virus" used by a person like Trump in a country like the U.S. could be inflammatory in a wrong way -- and have been hearing how that is playing out from an Asian-American I know -- and _that_ is significant.

Then she talks about hydroxychloroquine. I looked it up. My understanding (and I'm not a doctor, I'm just a person who reads sporadically) is that in places where malaria is a big problem, taking hydroxychloroquine is a lot better than not taking it, because malaria is so much worse than hydroxychloroquine. However, hydroxychloroquine has numerous side-effects, some of which could be serious ( https://www.drugs.com/sfx/hydroxychloroquine-side-effects.html ), so, taking hydroxychloroquine in a place where there's very low risk of contracting malaria might be worse than not taking it.

An additional factor in the significance of hydroxychloroquine during this pandemic might be a false assurance that it's effective against Covid-19 -- but I only listened for 6 minutes, so if she addressed that point then I haven't heard it yet.

In your own post you say "real actual, practicing doctors, rather than political hacks, who have ties to Bill Gates". I don't know a lot of doctors really well up close. I have my own doctor in Kaiser. Would you think he is a "political hack" with "ties to Bill Gates"? I think he's a real "front-line doctor" whether he joins an organization by that name or not. He told me a few weeks ago that every other person he sees (meaning: 1 of every 2) (or: 50% of his patients) is a Covid case. He's just a medical doctor, the kind where I get my annual physical checkup; he's not a Covid specialist. He didn't tell me any of these things you or that Dr. Simone Gold says.

There's another doctor acquaintance I have and what he says about Covid is to take lots of Vitamin D. He has to take Covid seriously because his hospital's running low on capacity because of so many cases of it. I don't have any reason to think he's a "political hack" with "ties to Bill Gates". He weighs in sometimes on informal discussions about Covid and he doesn't say anything like what you or that Dr. Simone Gold are saying. He mentioned that he has a meter (that would be a CO2 meter, most likely) by which he can estimate the amount of risk of Covid transmission in a room.

Regarding "ties to Bill Gates": Are we supposed to be suspicious of Bill Gates -- why? You didn't spell that out. Are we supposed to think a lot of people have "ties to Bill Gates" -- why? Is it because he's a billionaire -- and unlike the one in the White House, this time it's supposedly an _untrustworthy_ billionaire? (there's some sarcasm in that).

One could think Dr. Fauci might be a "political hack" only because he has a position in government (and anything "government" might have a "political" element). However, I think the opposite. In my opinion, Donald Trump is the political hack and Dr. Fauci has been a moderating influence and a real expert in infectious diseases (whereas Donald Trump's expertise is in manipulating gullible crowds). And _somebody_ should have such a position (as Fauci's) in government -- that doesn't automatically make them a "political hack".

Dr. Fauci has been an okay communicator but maybe not a really good communicator. If so, it might be because a lot of people at his level of government get fired by Trump from merely speaking the truth openly; so, he had to be careful how much he said and how he said it. Also sometimes scientists aren't good public communicators -- the skills needed for doing research aren't the same as the skills for public speaking, and some people don't have both. Also, I believe Dr. Fauci was (wrongfully) _prevented_ (by the Trump Administration) from speaking more often to the public.

The Trump Administration's been bad for scientific communication. " 'LIKE A HAND GRASPING': TRUMP APPOINTEES DESCRIBE THE CRUSHING OF THE C.D.C.
BY THE NEW YORK TIMES | DECEMBER 16, 2020
Kyle McGowan, a former chief of staff at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and his deputy, Amanda Campbell, go public on the Trump administration’s manipulation of the agency. " https://www.healthleadersmedia.com/strategy/hand-grasping-trump-appointees-describe-crushing-cdc

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I've seen a few nurses and doctors on video and I've seen some of what they're saying in the news. One thing they've been saying a lot since the pandemic started is that they don't have enough medical equipment such as masks. I had some extra N95 masks left over from fire season, and donated them to nurses, because they need such equipment more than I do, and there hasn't been enough of it to go around.

I don't know how anyone can look at the news regularly and not think that doctors and nurses -- a great many of them working on the front lines -- are very concerned about the spread of Covid-19 and do take it seriously and want us to "stay home" and -- when we do go out -- "wear masks" if we have to go out in public among people.

I'm retired and don't have to work now. Since the pandemic started, I stay away from people almost all the time, wear a mask when I'm out in public, and support my trusted favorite cafe which now has only take-out, no dining in.

I think my "mask" ideas are realistic; the mask isn't going to stop _me_ from catching Covid; what's going to stop me from catching Covid (knock on wood) is not being around people in rooms more than just short times or rarely. What's going to stop me from transmitting Covid to _others_ (if I do catch it -- then I could be contagious even when I don't know I've got it) is (1) my mask and (2) hardly ever being near anyone, especially not in small rooms.

I hope I don't break a bone or get any other medical condition requiring a doctor, because there might not be a doctor available because the hospitals and medical staff are being stressed to the breaking point, and also if I do have to go in then I might catch Covid there.

I've already lost one friend to Covid (death), expect to lose one more during the next several months (death by Covid -- that's what I think will happen), and have been hearing second-hand about several deaths due to Covid (people my acquaintances care about). I hope that my family stays safe -- we're spread out, living in different places.

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Jan 26, 2021 11:03:08   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
Godsncotrl wrote:
It never existed it was all a sham Ive been saying since its inception back in feb or march it was all part of there plan to oust the real president of The Republic of The United States for America.


You are wrong, and you are making yourself seem a fool. I am a Christian conservative Trump supporter. Trump did not and never did say the pandemic was a hoax, and you are doing neither him nor yourself any favors by claiming it does not exist. Did the democrats use it as a weapon against him? Absolutely. Along with a host of lies, the illegal impeachment, the fake Russian collusion, and all the rest. The democrats weaponized everything they could, including the DOJ and the FBI, to attack President Trump. But the pandemic is real and it needs to be taken seriously. Not that President Biden will do so. I'm still waiting to hear his magnificent 'secret' plan that will stop the pandemic in it's tracks.

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Jan 26, 2021 13:24:34   #
Navigator
 
JohnCorrespondent wrote:
I watched the first 6 minutes of it (thus far). She says many deaths would not have happened -- but it's not clear why they would not have happened -- she drops the subject instead of completing it. Obviously she means "because of lies" but she doesn't identify a particular lie that makes sense in the context. Or at least I didn't get it. Close to that, she talks about how there _are_ treatments for Covid beyond what we are told -- and that's believable, but maybe not as significant as she indicates. It may be that _hospitals_ can't offer all the treatments because they don't have enough trained staff to handle all the cases. (I mean, I can see how "treatments" relates to "deaths would not have happened" but she doesn't make the connection really clear and the amount of significance or the context seem a little fuzzy to me.)

(But here's a treatment that anybody can do at home: "proning". I saw a video about it circulating around and I think it looks plausible. I think the public should have been told about that. But all I know about that is the one little video which appears to be common sense.)

She (Dr. Simone Gold) talks a little while about how the name changed from Wuhan virus to Covid-19 and she calls that a Big Lie but I am unimpressed. It's not _that_ important to me what the disease is called. But I can understand why a phrase like "Chinese virus" used by a person like Trump in a country like the U.S. could be inflammatory in a wrong way -- and have been hearing how that is playing out from an Asian-American I know -- and _that_ is significant.

Then she talks about hydroxychloroquine. I looked it up. My understanding (and I'm not a doctor, I'm just a person who reads sporadically) is that in places where malaria is a big problem, taking hydroxychloroquine is a lot better than not taking it, because malaria is so much worse than hydroxychloroquine. However, hydroxychloroquine has numerous side-effects, some of which could be serious ( https://www.drugs.com/sfx/hydroxychloroquine-side-effects.html ), so, taking hydroxychloroquine in a place where there's very low risk of contracting malaria might be worse than not taking it.

An additional factor in the significance of hydroxychloroquine during this pandemic might be a false assurance that it's effective against Covid-19 -- but I only listened for 6 minutes, so if she addressed that point then I haven't heard it yet.

In your own post you say "real actual, practicing doctors, rather than political hacks, who have ties to Bill Gates". I don't know a lot of doctors really well up close. I have my own doctor in Kaiser. Would you think he is a "political hack" with "ties to Bill Gates"? I think he's a real "front-line doctor" whether he joins an organization by that name or not. He told me a few weeks ago that every other person he sees (meaning: 1 of every 2) (or: 50% of his patients) is a Covid case. He's just a medical doctor, the kind where I get my annual physical checkup; he's not a Covid specialist. He didn't tell me any of these things you or that Dr. Simone Gold says.

There's another doctor acquaintance I have and what he says about Covid is to take lots of Vitamin D. He has to take Covid seriously because his hospital's running low on capacity because of so many cases of it. I don't have any reason to think he's a "political hack" with "ties to Bill Gates". He weighs in sometimes on informal discussions about Covid and he doesn't say anything like what you or that Dr. Simone Gold are saying. He mentioned that he has a meter (that would be a CO2 meter, most likely) by which he can estimate the amount of risk of Covid transmission in a room.

Regarding "ties to Bill Gates": Are we supposed to be suspicious of Bill Gates -- why? You didn't spell that out. Are we supposed to think a lot of people have "ties to Bill Gates" -- why? Is it because he's a billionaire -- and unlike the one in the White House, this time it's supposedly an _untrustworthy_ billionaire? (there's some sarcasm in that).

One could think Dr. Fauci might be a "political hack" only because he has a position in government (and anything "government" might have a "political" element). However, I think the opposite. In my opinion, Donald Trump is the political hack and Dr. Fauci has been a moderating influence and a real expert in infectious diseases (whereas Donald Trump's expertise is in manipulating gullible crowds). And _somebody_ should have such a position (as Fauci's) in government -- that doesn't automatically make them a "political hack".

Dr. Fauci has been an okay communicator but maybe not a really good communicator. If so, it might be because a lot of people at his level of government get fired by Trump from merely speaking the truth openly; so, he had to be careful how much he said and how he said it. Also sometimes scientists aren't good public communicators -- the skills needed for doing research aren't the same as the skills for public speaking, and some people don't have both. Also, I believe Dr. Fauci was (wrongfully) _prevented_ (by the Trump Administration) from speaking more often to the public.

The Trump Administration's been bad for scientific communication. " 'LIKE A HAND GRASPING': TRUMP APPOINTEES DESCRIBE THE CRUSHING OF THE C.D.C.
BY THE NEW YORK TIMES | DECEMBER 16, 2020
Kyle McGowan, a former chief of staff at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and his deputy, Amanda Campbell, go public on the Trump administration’s manipulation of the agency. " https://www.healthleadersmedia.com/strategy/hand-grasping-trump-appointees-describe-crushing-cdc

- ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~ - ~

I've seen a few nurses and doctors on video and I've seen some of what they're saying in the news. One thing they've been saying a lot since the pandemic started is that they don't have enough medical equipment such as masks. I had some extra N95 masks left over from fire season, and donated them to nurses, because they need such equipment more than I do, and there hasn't been enough of it to go around.

I don't know how anyone can look at the news regularly and not think that doctors and nurses -- a great many of them working on the front lines -- are very concerned about the spread of Covid-19 and do take it seriously and want us to "stay home" and -- when we do go out -- "wear masks" if we have to go out in public among people.

I'm retired and don't have to work now. Since the pandemic started, I stay away from people almost all the time, wear a mask when I'm out in public, and support my trusted favorite cafe which now has only take-out, no dining in.

I think my "mask" ideas are realistic; the mask isn't going to stop _me_ from catching Covid; what's going to stop me from catching Covid (knock on wood) is not being around people in rooms more than just short times or rarely. What's going to stop me from transmitting Covid to _others_ (if I do catch it -- then I could be contagious even when I don't know I've got it) is (1) my mask and (2) hardly ever being near anyone, especially not in small rooms.

I hope I don't break a bone or get any other medical condition requiring a doctor, because there might not be a doctor available because the hospitals and medical staff are being stressed to the breaking point, and also if I do have to go in then I might catch Covid there.

I've already lost one friend to Covid (death), expect to lose one more during the next several months (death by Covid -- that's what I think will happen), and have been hearing second-hand about several deaths due to Covid (people my acquaintances care about). I hope that my family stays safe -- we're spread out, living in different places.
I watched the first 6 minutes of it (thus far). S... (show quote)


Stop already, haven't you heard the news? You and your friends are safe, Biden is President, Covid is no longer a threat. California and NY are opening back up lickity split and every body needs to get back to work and school and stop acting like Henney-Penney. its a miracle that just changing the R after the President's name to a D completely killed the Wuhan flu.

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Jan 26, 2021 13:57:23   #
JohnCorrespondent
 
Navigator wrote:
Stop already, haven't you heard the news? You and your friends are safe, Biden is President, Covid is no longer a threat. California and NY are opening back up lickity split and every body needs to get back to work and school and stop acting like Henney-Penney. its a miracle that just changing the R after the President's name to a D completely killed the Wuhan flu.


That's so silly I couldn't read past the 70% mark.

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Jan 26, 2021 14:21:29   #
Navigator
 
JohnCorrespondent wrote:
That's so silly I couldn't read past the 70% mark.


Check out network news, cable news, internet news or print issues of any newspaper and get back to me how silly it is. It isn't silly, it's outrageous and frightening.

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Jan 26, 2021 16:40:22   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
Navigator wrote:
Check out network news, cable news, internet news or print issues of any newspaper and get back to me how silly it is. It isn't silly, it's outrageous and frightening.


Agreed. And horribly tragic.

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Jan 26, 2021 18:39:46   #
JohnCorrespondent
 
Navigator wrote:
Stop already, haven't you heard the news? You and your friends are safe, Biden is President, Covid is no longer a threat. California and NY are opening back up lickity split and every body needs to get back to work and school and stop acting like Henney-Penney. its a miracle that just changing the R after the President's name to a D completely killed the Wuhan flu.


Which news do _you_ believe? The news I get says that Covid continues to be a threat. Biden himself continues to take it seriously as a threat. I get this from my local paper, and from nytimes, latimes, theguardian, aljazeera, bostonglobe, and a few others.

And now you chide me; you say changing the R to a D "completely killed the Wuhan flu". And in your second such response, you reassert your first response (above); now saying:

"Check out network news, cable news, internet news or print issues of any newspaper and get back to me how silly it is. It isn't silly, it's outrageous and frightening."

So, as I was saying, I have already been looking at "internet news" _and_ (or, including) several online newspapers. Among all these, none say what you say; you say something has "completely killed the Wuhan flu", which presumably is what you call Covid-19.

While a great many people around the world, and also the prominent newspapers here and abroad, continue to take the pandemic seriously, you pretend that they're saying something else.

Is this some kind of "trolling" where you just spout nonsense and attribute it to other people? Back up and figure out what you're really trying to say, and next time be more explicit; so far you've given a thick overlay of some kind of sarcasm, but you completely left out whatever you really mean. Say it straight out.

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Jan 26, 2021 20:53:32   #
Navigator
 
JohnCorrespondent wrote:
Which news do _you_ believe? The news I get says that Covid continues to be a threat. Biden himself continues to take it seriously as a threat. I get this from my local paper, and from nytimes, latimes, theguardian, aljazeera, bostonglobe, and a few others.

And now you chide me; you say changing the R to a D "completely killed the Wuhan flu". And in your second such response, you reassert your first response (above); now saying:

"Check out network news, cable news, internet news or print issues of any newspaper and get back to me how silly it is. It isn't silly, it's outrageous and frightening."

So, as I was saying, I have already been looking at "internet news" _and_ (or, including) several online newspapers. Among all these, none say what you say; you say something has "completely killed the Wuhan flu", which presumably is what you call Covid-19.

While a great many people around the world, and also the prominent newspapers here and abroad, continue to take the pandemic seriously, you pretend that they're saying something else.

Is this some kind of "trolling" where you just spout nonsense and attribute it to other people? Back up and figure out what you're really trying to say, and next time be more explicit; so far you've given a thick overlay of some kind of sarcasm, but you completely left out whatever you really mean. Say it straight out.
Which news do _you_ believe? The news I get says ... (show quote)


For someone who writes fairly well you are quite dense. When I write "completely killed the Wuhan flu" I was using hyperbole. I'll write more plainly so you can keep up. A week ago, the numbers were exactly the same as they were today and as they were 3 weeks ago, but Trump was still President so opinions about opening up the country were still being treated as callous concerns about $$$$ while people die. Today Biden is President so the media is telling us the virus is slowing down considerably (check Worldometer, it isn't), schools are being ordered to resume in-person instruction and the governor of California is ending his lockdown orders while Andrew Cuomo is urging businesses and restaurants to open up as we can't continue staying closed. None of this advice is based upon numbers, it is based only upon politics.

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Jan 26, 2021 22:14:22   #
JohnCorrespondent
 
Navigator wrote:
For someone who writes fairly well you are quite dense. When I write "completely killed the Wuhan flu" I was using hyperbole. I'll write more plainly so you can keep up. A week ago, the numbers were exactly the same as they were today and as they were 3 weeks ago, but Trump was still President so opinions about opening up the country were still being treated as callous concerns about $$$$ while people die. Today Biden is President so the media is telling us the virus is slowing down considerably (check Worldometer, it isn't), schools are being ordered to resume in-person instruction and the governor of California is ending his lockdown orders while Andrew Cuomo is urging businesses and restaurants to open up as we can't continue staying closed. None of this advice is based upon numbers, it is based only upon politics.
For someone who writes fairly well you are quite d... (show quote)


Thank you for that clarification.

One thing I have noticed (in agreement with part of what you write here) is that California (where I am) is easing its restrictions. Offhand, I think it is a foolish thing for California to do at this time.

I'm not _that_ dense as you say; but I have a low tolerance for ambiguity. Lately I've been trying to be clear by saying when I'm being sarcastic, so that people will know which sentence is straight and which is sarcasm. I do find your clarified post here far easier to understand than your earlier ones. We don't all start with the same context.

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