John Meoff wrote:
Everywhere socialized medicine has been tried, total costs have gone through the roof.
I'm a physician. Socialize your own field & see if you like it.
Really? And you got this information where? Don't bother answering that second question, I KNOW where you got that information, and very little if anything they EVER say is true.
But hey, let's go ahead and assume what you are saying IS true, Does that mean America has been laboring under socialized medicine since the 80's? America has CONSISTENTLY had the highest health care costs since we took the lead in the 1980's, care to explain how bad socialized medicine is now? Why haven't these countries that switched to socialized medicine caught up to out health care costs? Why aren't they closing the gap?
Check it out for yourself, below are some links to some articles.
Forbes is a financial and business magazine and tends to publish articles/stories with a very slight conservative lean or perspective.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2019/08/08/how-us-healthcare-spending-per-capita-compares-with-other-countries-infographic/ (Forbes was founded by Steve Forbes, Staunch republican and currently Editor in Chief at Forbes) (Beware the paywall)
Business Insider is a financial and business website
https://www.businessinsider.com/personal-finance/cost-of-healthcare-countries-ranked-2019-3https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/health-care-costs-by-countryhttps://www.statista.com/statistics/236541/per-capita-health-expenditure-by-country/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_health_expenditure_per_capitaTotal
Data table for: Health spending, Total / Government/compulsory / Voluntary, US dollars/capita, 2019 or latest available
Location ▾
▾ Latest
United States_______11,071.7 Trumplicans chant "We're #1!, We're #1!, We're #1!"
Switzerland__________7,732.4
Norway_____________6,646.7
Germany____________6,645.8
Austria______________5,851.1
Sweden_____________5,782.3
Netherlands__________5,765.1
Denmark ____________5,567.9
Luxembourg__________5,558.3
Belgium_____________5,428.0
Canada______________5,418.4
France_______________5,375.7
Ireland _____________5,275.5
Australia_____________5,187.4
Japan_______________4,822.8
Iceland______________4,811.4
United Kingdom_______4,653.1
Finland______________4,578.4
Malta_______________4,262.2
OECD - Average_______4,223.5
New Zealand_________4,204.0
Italy________________3,649.2
Spain_______________3,616.5
Czech Republic________3,427.9
Korea_______________3,384.2
Portugal_____________3,378.6
Slovenia_____________3,224.0
Israel_______________2,931.9
Cyprus______________2,790.3
Lithuania____________2,638.1
Estonia______________2,578.8
Greece______________2,383.6
Slovak Republic_______2,353.6
Poland______________2,229.6
Hungary_____________2,222.4
Chile________________2,159.4
Croatia______________2,007.9
Bulgaria______________1,996.4
Latvia________________1,972.6
Romania______________1,906.8
Russia________________1,707.4
Costa Rica_____________1,495.5
Turkey________________1,337.2
Colombia______________1,212.6
Mexico________________1,153.6
South Africa____________1,072.4
North Macedonia__________942.4
Government/compulsory
Data table for: Health spending, Total / Government/compulsory / Voluntary, US dollars/capita, 2019 or latest available
Location ▾
▾ Latest
United States___________9,386.5 Again they chant "We're #1!, We're #1!, We're #1!" Me: "You do know that's a bad thing here right?" Trumplican: "Shut up you commie"
Norway________________5,673.1
Germany_______________5,648.1
Switzerland_____________4,987.6
Sweden________________4,928.0
Netherlands_____________4,766.6
Luxembourg_____________4,697.0
Denmark_______________4,663.4
France_________________4,501.4
Austria_________________4,402.3
Belgium________________4,124.7
Japan__________________4,064.0
Iceland_________________3,988.4
Ireland_________________3,918.6
Canada_________________3,815.1
United Kingdom__________3,619.5
Finland_________________3,536.5
Australia________________3,495.2
New Zealand_____________3,343.4
Czech Republic___________2,856.2
Malta___________________2,770.7
Italy___________________2,705.7
Spain__________________2,559.6
Slovenia________________2,314.1
Portugal________________2,069.0
Korea__________________2,057.4
Estonia_________________1,916.4
Slovak Republic__________1,911.9
Israel__________________1,889.2
Lithuania_______________1,768.8
Croatia_________________1,666.6
Poland_________________1,568.1
Hungary________________1,542.3
Romania________________1,530.1
Greece_________________1,411.9
Chile___________________1,280.6
Cyprus_________________1,268.8
Bulgaria________________1,211.6
Latvia__________________1,179.5
Costa Rica______________1,104.1
Turkey_________________1,040.7
Russia_________________1,015.2
Colombia________________896.0
North Macedonia__________639.8
Mexico__________________583.0
South Africa______________458.8
Voluntary
Data table for: Health spending, Total / Government/compulsory / Voluntary, US dollars/capita, 2019 or latest available
Location ▾________________583.0
South Africa______________458.8
Voluntary
Data table for: Health spending, Total / Government/compulsory / Voluntary, US dollars/capita, 2019 or latest available
Location ▾
▾ Latest
▾ Latest
Switzerland_____________2,744.8
Australia_______________1,692.2
United States___________1,685.3 Hey, hey, we AREN'T #1 here, AWESOME!
Canada________________1,603.3
Cyprus________________1,521.4
Malta_________________1,491.5
Austria________________1,448.7
Ireland________________1,357.0
Korea_________________1,326.8
Portugal_______________1,309.6
Belgium_______________1,303.3
Spain_________________1,056.9
Finland________________1,042.0
United Kingdom_________1,033.5
Netherlands______________998.5
Germany________________997.6
Israel___________________990.5
Norway_________________973.6
Greece__________________970.2
Italy____________________943.5
Slovenia_________________909.9
Denmark________________904.5
Chile___________________878.7
France_________________874.3
Lithuania_______________868.7
New Zealand____________860.6
Sweden________________854.3
Iceland________________823.0
Latvia_________________793.0
Bulgaria_______________784.9
Luxembourg____________782.7
Japan_________________758.8
Russia________________692.3
Hungary_______________680.2
Estonia________________662.4
Poland________________661.5
South Africa____________613.6
Czech Republic__________571.7
Mexico________________570.6
Slovak Republic_________441.8
Costa Rica_____________391.5
Romania______________376.7
Croatia_______________341.3
Colombia_____________316.6
North Macedonia_______302.6
Turkey_______________296.5
OECD (2020), Health spending (indicator). doi: 10.1787/8643de7e-en (Accessed on 21 November 2020)
https://data.oecd.org/healthres/health-spending.htm