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May 7, 2020 21:49:07   #
Auntie Dee
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
This is the most ridiculous piece of trash that I’ve ever not finished reading.



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May 7, 2020 22:17:56   #
Auntie Dee
 
Airforceone wrote:
Well that is a very difficult answer. Because OPP Trump supporters do not answer to facts. If a new topic appears on OPP that is factual they don’t debate the facts they attack just like Trump does. Just attack attack and attack.

So let’s hit Trump supporters with a couple of issues that should concern them. Not even mentioning this phony drug he has been touting and his bleach and Lysol cure to the virus.

But March 6th this country had 14 dead. Trump told his base at that time (No need to panic that his administration had it under control). Here it is April 6th and we have over 72,000 dead. Any idea what Trump had under control. Trump keeps moving the goal post when this country hit 40,000 deaths, his quote for success was well most professionals that talk with the fake news MSM that we would exceed 60,000 deaths. So Trump keeps moving the goalposts and here we are this country has exceeded 72,000 deaths and Trump is still claiming victory. Does this make sense to anybody that has any common sense.

So when do Trump supporters stop supporting Trump because now he still measures his success at 80,000 deaths as he said yesterday. So his answer to having it under control is get rid of the Coronavirus team. Create this phony China trap that China created this virus in a lab. Then China released it (IN CHINA) and created a global pandemic.
Only makes sense to Trump supporters.

Trump is a pathological liar who says whatever it takes in the moment to advance his political agenda without any regards to human life. In this case Trump is causing needless deaths by not listening to his own team that advise him. So the medical professional deal with human life all Trump does is protect his political ass. And fire the people who have concerns over human life.

But back in early March with 14 deaths and his comments no need to panic. Here it is one month later over 72,000 dead and he is moving the goalpost for success at 80,000 to 100,000 deaths.

But Trump supporters want to ignore what Trump actually says. But look back at what Trump actually said back in March. The number of deaths will quickly fall to zero. Maybe that’s what he really believes today by eliminating the Coronavirus staff and opening the country. ( BECAUSE ITS ALL FAKE NEWS)

So how do you expose Trump supporters there is no way in hell Trump could kill a million people and they will still find justification for the Trump success.
Well that is a very difficult answer. Because OPP ... (show quote)


We Trump supporters know that Trump is an optimist and believe that to be a Good quality! When he stated his early remarks, he nor anyone else, know what was to come! Yet, somehow you claim that he lied! Stupid! What if he had panicked and suddenly claimed 2 million Americans would die..like the now disgraced English modeler did? Would you then have claimed he lied when ONLY 70K died? Probably! Dem's would be saying he over exaggerated and put everyone into a panic! Orange Man Bad!

May I call to your attention your own exaggeration of the fact that it isn't just one month from early March to early May! But then don't let small FACTS ruin your rant!

Trump has NOT eliminated the CoronaVirus Staff that he organized...he only stopped the publication of a CDC outline of recommendations, because he and others felt they were not pertinent! See how you keep confusing facts to make your ridiculous points!

YES, some of us are Trump supporters, we believe that is agenda for America is much better than a Socialist or Communist agenda, we prefer to keep the USA a sovereign nation & not bow to the globalists and the NWO! Guess we are just loyal to our Constitution then to all those so-called woke ideas of the left!

We understand there are those who prefer a different path, we think you are wrong-headed and possibly evil in your undertakings against our duly elected President! We wish we didn't have to put-up with your kind, but such is the price of FREEDOM!

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May 8, 2020 04:36:45   #
dillybar
 
Can't understand why you demonrats read something from a fortune cookie and call it fact! May God forgive you and bless you.

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May 8, 2020 13:53:13   #
Navigator
 
rafterman wrote:
You are the most ignorant person I've read on OPP. Hey - He closed travel to China on January 31, 2020 and the media and democrats, including presidential candidate Sleepy Joe Biden, called him a racist. AND, look here numnuts, you would have closed the country down on March 6, 2020 because of 14 deaths? Get your lysol crap together son because YOU have the story wrong - get the real facts straight so you don't write wrong stuff like this (that's assuming you have something between your ears rather that up your arse). You will find that even if Trump supports 80,000 deaths that if there turns out to be 60,000 or ever 240,000 (as originally projected by Dr. Fauci) you NON-Trump supporters will dump every bite of blame on him as you can - which from where I sit - only proves how ignorant you and people of your ilk are.

As far as Trump moving the goal posts, what the hell is he supposed to do - say no Mr. Virus you can't take more (or less) lives than the models we used projected? You may not know this, but a good leader must provide an uplifting and positive demeanor and attitude. Would you have him say - Hey, not only should you be afraid and show it by staying at home, you should be steeped with shame because people are dying, and you are still alive. Maybe you would rather have Trump project the same Mr. Doom and Gloom attitude and demeanor of Gov Cuomo. Even though Cuomo (as a democrat) has some good ideas and his heart and effort are in the right place, watching and listening to that guy is like seeing an old black and white 1930's Lon Chaney horror movie. Come on man, just admit it - no matter how or what Trump says, you will oppose it. That is such shallow thinking. I am a normally a Trump supporter - but I vigorously disagreed with his proclamation that the country needs to stay at home and then signing that stimulus package (everyone got $1,200.00). My point is, ignorant people like you just disagree with him just to disagree. He shuts down travel to China and you disagreed YET complain when there where 14 deaths on March 6 and think he should have done something, but never say what he should have done (which leads me to believe you, like all commie democrats and liberals don't have a clue). I bet you are even undecided as to which hand to use when you whip.

Trump did not say one million would die. Trump just followed the science, as he should have, provided him. That number was used by Trump because it was provided by someone from England who was "trusted" by Dr. Fauci. Three days later, he changed his model and projections to the same number that Fauci eventually projected (240,000). Even Dr. Fauci's projections have changed DOWNWARD. So come on man, haven't you ever been involved in a venture or problem that was projected to cost $1 million dollars and after a few weeks into it, you found something that would cut the cost by - oh let’s say - 25%. Or have you ever needed an emergency repair on your house that the contractor projected to cost $10,000.00 and you had to leave your house for two days while the repairs were being done, but when finally finished, it wasn't quite the emergency as originally projected, you only needed to stay out of your house one day, and the cost was instead only $4,000.00. What would you do if that happened? Keep the goal posts in place? Celebrate? Cry? Brag? Bad mouth whoever projected the original cost? Call them a liar? Just asking! I'm only trying to say that given that THE WORLD (not just our country) has not (never) experienced anything like this coronavirus in our modern technological times, everything is fluid and changes daily, if not by the minute. (There wasn't a panic lock down for the Spanish flu 100 years ago, so that can't be used as a reference.)

And, when you start talking facts other than calling Trump a pathological liar, I'm more than willing to debate you. Until then, why don't you quit wasting space on this blog and find one that suits idiots like you. You should enjoy each other’s company. And by the way, if you start providing facts and cogent arguments, I will happily and respectfully debate with you. But as Joe Friday said on Dragnet, "The facts. Just the facts." Have a good day.
You are the most ignorant person I've read on OPP.... (show quote)


Thanks for the nice logical post but it is wasted on these braindead, brainwashed Trolls.

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May 9, 2020 02:28:48   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Auntie Dee wrote:
We Trump supporters know that Trump is an optimist and believe that to be a Good quality! When he stated his early remarks, he nor anyone else, know what was to come! Yet, somehow you claim that he lied! Stupid! What if he had panicked and suddenly claimed 2 million Americans would die..like the now disgraced English modeler did? Would you then have claimed he lied when ONLY 70K died? Probably! Dem's would be saying he over exaggerated and put everyone into a panic! Orange Man Bad!

May I call to your attention your own exaggeration of the fact that it isn't just one month from early March to early May! But then don't let small FACTS ruin your rant!

Trump has NOT eliminated the CoronaVirus Staff that he organized...he only stopped the publication of a CDC outline of recommendations, because he and others felt they were not pertinent! See how you keep confusing facts to make your ridiculous points!

YES, some of us are Trump supporters, we believe that is agenda for America is much better than a Socialist or Communist agenda, we prefer to keep the USA a sovereign nation & not bow to the globalists and the NWO! Guess we are just loyal to our Constitution then to all those so-called woke ideas of the left!

We understand there are those who prefer a different path, we think you are wrong-headed and possibly evil in your undertakings against our duly elected President! We wish we didn't have to put-up with your kind, but such is the price of FREEDOM!
We Trump supporters know that Trump is an optimist... (show quote)


Very well said.

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May 9, 2020 11:24:57   #
rafterman Loc: South Florida
 
Airforceone wrote:
Well that is a very difficult answer. Because OPP Trump supporters do not answer to facts. If a new topic appears on OPP that is factual they don’t debate the facts they attack just like Trump does. Just attack attack and attack.

So let’s hit Trump supporters with a couple of issues that should concern them. Not even mentioning this phony drug he has been touting and his bleach and Lysol cure to the virus.

But March 6th this country had 14 dead. Trump told his base at that time (No need to panic that his administration had it under control). Here it is April 6th and we have over 72,000 dead. Any idea what Trump had under control. Trump keeps moving the goal post when this country hit 40,000 deaths, his quote for success was well most professionals that talk with the fake news MSM that we would exceed 60,000 deaths. So Trump keeps moving the goalposts and here we are this country has exceeded 72,000 deaths and Trump is still claiming victory. Does this make sense to anybody that has any common sense.

So when do Trump supporters stop supporting Trump because now he still measures his success at 80,000 deaths as he said yesterday. So his answer to having it under control is get rid of the Coronavirus team. Create this phony China trap that China created this virus in a lab. Then China released it (IN CHINA) and created a global pandemic.
Only makes sense to Trump supporters.

Trump is a pathological liar who says whatever it takes in the moment to advance his political agenda without any regards to human life. In this case Trump is causing needless deaths by not listening to his own team that advise him. So the medical professional deal with human life all Trump does is protect his political ass. And fire the people who have concerns over human life.

But back in early March with 14 deaths and his comments no need to panic. Here it is one month later over 72,000 dead and he is moving the goalpost for success at 80,000 to 100,000 deaths.

But Trump supporters want to ignore what Trump actually says. But look back at what Trump actually said back in March. The number of deaths will quickly fall to zero. Maybe that’s what he really believes today by eliminating the Coronavirus staff and opening the country. ( BECAUSE ITS ALL FAKE NEWS)

So how do you expose Trump supporters there is no way in hell Trump could kill a million people and they will still find justification for the Trump success.
Well that is a very difficult answer. Because OPP ... (show quote)


If I didn’t know any better, I’d find you to be an ignoramus. However, that would be an insult not tolerated on OPP, thus, possibly making this post subject to deletion. Let’s not have remarks made on any post judged to be offensive and the author an insensitive imbecile. (A previous post by me in response was deleted because it was considered an "insult".)

Anyway, President Trump closed travel to China on January 31, 2020 and the media and democrats, including presidential candidate Sleepy Joe Biden, called him a racist. AND, look here, you would have closed the country down on March 6, 2020 because of 14 deaths? Get your lysol mis-information together son because YOU have the story wrong - get the real facts straight so you don't write stuff like this that is so obviously criminally incorrect (that's assuming you use what God provided you with between your ears wisely and in a rational manner). You will find that even if Trump supports 80,000 deaths that if there turns out to be 60,000 or ever 240,000 (as originally projected by Dr. Fauci) you NON-Trump supporters will dump every bite of blame on him as you can - which from where I sit - only proves how unenlightened and prejudice you and people who think like you are.

As far as Trump moving the goal posts, what the hell is he supposed to do - say no Mr. Virus you can't take more (or less) lives than the models we used projected? You may not know this, but a good leader must provide an uplifting and positive demeanor and attitude. Would you have him say - Hey, not only should you be afraid and show it by staying at home, you should be steeped with shame because people are dying, and you are still alive. Maybe you would rather have Trump project the same Mr. Doom and Gloom attitude and demeanor of Gov Cuomo. Even though Cuomo (as a democrat) has some good ideas and his heart and effort are in the right place, watching and listening to that guy is like seeing an old black and white 1930's Lon Chaney horror movie. Come on man, just admit it - no matter how or what Trump says, you will oppose it. That is such shallow thinking. I am a normally a Trump supporter - but I vigorously disagreed with his proclamation that the country needs to stay at home and then signing that stimulus package, but instead thought only for the elderly should (be advised) stay home and tax incentives/breaks be developed in lieu of the $1,200.00 and unemployment benefits raised. My point is, the ill-informed disagree with President Trump just to disagree. He shuts down travel to China and your post indicates that you disagreed with doing that YET complain when there where 14 deaths on March 6 and think he should have done something at that time. However, your post does not indicate or put forth any solutions or ideas of the actions he should have taken. I apologize in advance if this offends, but it leads me to believe you don’t have a clue and there are many more things you have difficulty with providing any type of solution or at least the sliver of an idea. Are you often confused, or too feeble to think, or contemplate – am I left-handed or right-handed?

Trump did not say one million would die. Trump just followed the science, as he should have. That number was used by Trump because it was provided by someone from England who was "trusted" by Dr. Fauci of our CDC. Three days later, he changed his model and projections to the same number that Fauci eventually projected (240,000). Even Dr. Fauci's projections have changed DOWNWARD. So come on man, haven't you ever been involved in a venture or problem that was projected to cost $1 million dollars and after a few weeks into it, you found something that would cut the cost by - oh let’s say - 25%. Or have you ever needed an emergency repair on your house that the contractor projected to cost $10,000.00 and you had to leave your house for two days while the repairs were being done, but when finally finished, it wasn't quite the emergency as originally projected, you only needed to stay out of your house one day, and the cost was instead only $4,000.00. What would you do if that happened? Keep the goal posts in place? Celebrate? Cry? Brag? Bad mouth whoever projected the original cost? Call them a liar? Just asking! I'm only trying to say that given that THE WORLD (not just our country) has not (never) experienced anything like this coronavirus in our modern technological times, everything is fluid and changes daily, if not by the minute. (There wasn't a panic lock down for the Spanish flu 100 years ago, so that can't be used as a reference.)

And, when you start talking facts other than calling Trump a pathological liar, I'm more than willing to debate you. Until then, why don't you quit wasting space on this blog and find one that is more suitable. And by the way, if you start providing facts and cogent arguments, I will happily and respectfully debate with you. But as Joe Friday said on Dragnet, "The facts. Just the facts." Have a good day.

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May 9, 2020 12:26:32   #
SWMBO
 
rafterman wrote:
If I didn’t know any better, I’d find you to be an ignoramus. However, that would be an insult not tolerated on OPP, thus, possibly making this post subject to deletion. Let’s not have remarks made on any post judged to be offensive and the author an insensitive imbecile. (A previous post by me in response was deleted because it was considered an "insult".)

Anyway, President Trump closed travel to China on January 31, 2020 and the media and democrats, including presidential candidate Sleepy Joe Biden, called him a racist. AND, look here, you would have closed the country down on March 6, 2020 because of 14 deaths? Get your lysol mis-information together son because YOU have the story wrong - get the real facts straight so you don't write stuff like this that is so obviously criminally incorrect (that's assuming you use what God provided you with between your ears wisely and in a rational manner). You will find that even if Trump supports 80,000 deaths that if there turns out to be 60,000 or ever 240,000 (as originally projected by Dr. Fauci) you NON-Trump supporters will dump every bite of blame on him as you can - which from where I sit - only proves how unenlightened and prejudice you and people who think like you are.

As far as Trump moving the goal posts, what the hell is he supposed to do - say no Mr. Virus you can't take more (or less) lives than the models we used projected? You may not know this, but a good leader must provide an uplifting and positive demeanor and attitude. Would you have him say - Hey, not only should you be afraid and show it by staying at home, you should be steeped with shame because people are dying, and you are still alive. Maybe you would rather have Trump project the same Mr. Doom and Gloom attitude and demeanor of Gov Cuomo. Even though Cuomo (as a democrat) has some good ideas and his heart and effort are in the right place, watching and listening to that guy is like seeing an old black and white 1930's Lon Chaney horror movie. Come on man, just admit it - no matter how or what Trump says, you will oppose it. That is such shallow thinking. I am a normally a Trump supporter - but I vigorously disagreed with his proclamation that the country needs to stay at home and then signing that stimulus package, but instead thought only for the elderly should (be advised) stay home and tax incentives/breaks be developed in lieu of the $1,200.00 and unemployment benefits raised. My point is, the ill-informed disagree with President Trump just to disagree. He shuts down travel to China and your post indicates that you disagreed with doing that YET complain when there where 14 deaths on March 6 and think he should have done something at that time. However, your post does not indicate or put forth any solutions or ideas of the actions he should have taken. I apologize in advance if this offends, but it leads me to believe you don’t have a clue and there are many more things you have difficulty with providing any type of solution or at least the sliver of an idea. Are you often confused, or too feeble to think, or contemplate – am I left-handed or right-handed?

Trump did not say one million would die. Trump just followed the science, as he should have. That number was used by Trump because it was provided by someone from England who was "trusted" by Dr. Fauci of our CDC. Three days later, he changed his model and projections to the same number that Fauci eventually projected (240,000). Even Dr. Fauci's projections have changed DOWNWARD. So come on man, haven't you ever been involved in a venture or problem that was projected to cost $1 million dollars and after a few weeks into it, you found something that would cut the cost by - oh let’s say - 25%. Or have you ever needed an emergency repair on your house that the contractor projected to cost $10,000.00 and you had to leave your house for two days while the repairs were being done, but when finally finished, it wasn't quite the emergency as originally projected, you only needed to stay out of your house one day, and the cost was instead only $4,000.00. What would you do if that happened? Keep the goal posts in place? Celebrate? Cry? Brag? Bad mouth whoever projected the original cost? Call them a liar? Just asking! I'm only trying to say that given that THE WORLD (not just our country) has not (never) experienced anything like this coronavirus in our modern technological times, everything is fluid and changes daily, if not by the minute. (There wasn't a panic lock down for the Spanish flu 100 years ago, so that can't be used as a reference.)

And, when you start talking facts other than calling Trump a pathological liar, I'm more than willing to debate you. Until then, why don't you quit wasting space on this blog and find one that is more suitable. And by the way, if you start providing facts and cogent arguments, I will happily and respectfully debate with you. But as Joe Friday said on Dragnet, "The facts. Just the facts." Have a good day.
If I didn’t know any better, I’d find you to be an... (show quote)


excellent comments

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May 9, 2020 16:05:04   #
Navigator
 
SWMBO wrote:
excellent comments
img src="https://static.onepoliticalplaza.com/ima... (show quote)


Unfortunately you are responding to a braindead, brainwashed troll with terminal TDS. In his defense I must note there are dozens of media personalities earning $10 million a year and up and most Democrat politicians saying the same demonstrably false and imbecilic things. By the way, I identify with your urge to label some of these trolls with offensive names as that is really the only response they warrant. I have already been suspended for so doing as I didn't realize I was getting private messages from OPP that posts of mine were being removed for being out of bounds until one day I found I could no longer post.

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May 13, 2020 00:27:00   #
newbear Loc: New York City
 
rafterman wrote:
If I didn’t know any better, I’d find you to be an ignoramus. However, that would be an insult not tolerated on OPP, thus, possibly making this post subject to deletion. Let’s not have remarks made on any post judged to be offensive and the author an insensitive imbecile. (A previous post by me in response was deleted because it was considered an "insult".)

Anyway, President Trump closed travel to China on January 31, 2020 and the media and democrats, including presidential candidate Sleepy Joe Biden, called him a racist. AND, look here, you would have closed the country down on March 6, 2020 because of 14 deaths? Get your lysol mis-information together son because YOU have the story wrong - get the real facts straight so you don't write stuff like this that is so obviously criminally incorrect (that's assuming you use what God provided you with between your ears wisely and in a rational manner). You will find that even if Trump supports 80,000 deaths that if there turns out to be 60,000 or ever 240,000 (as originally projected by Dr. Fauci) you NON-Trump supporters will dump every bite of blame on him as you can - which from where I sit - only proves how unenlightened and prejudice you and people who think like you are.

As far as Trump moving the goal posts, what the hell is he supposed to do - say no Mr. Virus you can't take more (or less) lives than the models we used projected? You may not know this, but a good leader must provide an uplifting and positive demeanor and attitude. Would you have him say - Hey, not only should you be afraid and show it by staying at home, you should be steeped with shame because people are dying, and you are still alive. Maybe you would rather have Trump project the same Mr. Doom and Gloom attitude and demeanor of Gov Cuomo. Even though Cuomo (as a democrat) has some good ideas and his heart and effort are in the right place, watching and listening to that guy is like seeing an old black and white 1930's Lon Chaney horror movie. Come on man, just admit it - no matter how or what Trump says, you will oppose it. That is such shallow thinking. I am a normally a Trump supporter - but I vigorously disagreed with his proclamation that the country needs to stay at home and then signing that stimulus package, but instead thought only for the elderly should (be advised) stay home and tax incentives/breaks be developed in lieu of the $1,200.00 and unemployment benefits raised. My point is, the ill-informed disagree with President Trump just to disagree. He shuts down travel to China and your post indicates that you disagreed with doing that YET complain when there where 14 deaths on March 6 and think he should have done something at that time. However, your post does not indicate or put forth any solutions or ideas of the actions he should have taken. I apologize in advance if this offends, but it leads me to believe you don’t have a clue and there are many more things you have difficulty with providing any type of solution or at least the sliver of an idea. Are you often confused, or too feeble to think, or contemplate – am I left-handed or right-handed?

Trump did not say one million would die. Trump just followed the science, as he should have. That number was used by Trump because it was provided by someone from England who was "trusted" by Dr. Fauci of our CDC. Three days later, he changed his model and projections to the same number that Fauci eventually projected (240,000). Even Dr. Fauci's projections have changed DOWNWARD. So come on man, haven't you ever been involved in a venture or problem that was projected to cost $1 million dollars and after a few weeks into it, you found something that would cut the cost by - oh let’s say - 25%. Or have you ever needed an emergency repair on your house that the contractor projected to cost $10,000.00 and you had to leave your house for two days while the repairs were being done, but when finally finished, it wasn't quite the emergency as originally projected, you only needed to stay out of your house one day, and the cost was instead only $4,000.00. What would you do if that happened? Keep the goal posts in place? Celebrate? Cry? Brag? Bad mouth whoever projected the original cost? Call them a liar? Just asking! I'm only trying to say that given that THE WORLD (not just our country) has not (never) experienced anything like this coronavirus in our modern technological times, everything is fluid and changes daily, if not by the minute. (There wasn't a panic lock down for the Spanish flu 100 years ago, so that can't be used as a reference.)

And, when you start talking facts other than calling Trump a pathological liar, I'm more than willing to debate you. Until then, why don't you quit wasting space on this blog and find one that is more suitable. And by the way, if you start providing facts and cogent arguments, I will happily and respectfully debate with you. But as Joe Friday said on Dragnet, "The facts. Just the facts." Have a good day.
If I didn’t know any better, I’d find you to be an... (show quote)


Good fertilizer for fallow brains, hope it works a little!

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May 13, 2020 20:39:36   #
SWMBO
 
Airforceone wrote:
Well that is a very difficult answer. Because OPP Trump supporters do not answer to facts. If a new topic appears on OPP that is factual they don’t debate the facts they attack just like Trump does. Just attack attack and attack.

So let’s hit Trump supporters with a couple of issues that should concern them. Not even mentioning this phony drug he has been touting and his bleach and Lysol cure to the virus.

But March 6th this country had 14 dead. Trump told his base at that time (No need to panic that his administration had it under control). Here it is April 6th and we have over 72,000 dead. Any idea what Trump had under control. Trump keeps moving the goal post when this country hit 40,000 deaths, his quote for success was well most professionals that talk with the fake news MSM that we would exceed 60,000 deaths. So Trump keeps moving the goalposts and here we are this country has exceeded 72,000 deaths and Trump is still claiming victory. Does this make sense to anybody that has any common sense.

So when do Trump supporters stop supporting Trump because now he still measures his success at 80,000 deaths as he said yesterday. So his answer to having it under control is get rid of the Coronavirus team. Create this phony China trap that China created this virus in a lab. Then China released it (IN CHINA) and created a global pandemic.
Only makes sense to Trump supporters.

Trump is a pathological liar who says whatever it takes in the moment to advance his political agenda without any regards to human life. In this case Trump is causing needless deaths by not listening to his own team that advise him. So the medical professional deal with human life all Trump does is protect his political ass. And fire the people who have concerns over human life.

But back in early March with 14 deaths and his comments no need to panic. Here it is one month later over 72,000 dead and he is moving the goalpost for success at 80,000 to 100,000 deaths.

But Trump supporters want to ignore what Trump actually says. But look back at what Trump actually said back in March. The number of deaths will quickly fall to zero. Maybe that’s what he really believes today by eliminating the Coronavirus staff and opening the country. ( BECAUSE ITS ALL FAKE NEWS)

So how do you expose Trump supporters there is no way in hell Trump could kill a million people and they will still find justification for the Trump success.
Well that is a very difficult answer. Because OPP ... (show quote)


Your premise is obviously that Trump supporters are criminals, a threat to American society that all should be locked up in prison. Otherwise, "exposing those who support Trump"just because we disagree with your desire for a socialist society where the state is ALL and the individual has no rights that the government has no right to take away on any whim they choose is a threat .

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May 25, 2020 13:07:03   #
Airforceone
 
Auntie Dee wrote:
We Trump supporters know that Trump is an optimist and believe that to be a Good quality! When he stated his early remarks, he nor anyone else, know what was to come! Yet, somehow you claim that he lied! Stupid! What if he had panicked and suddenly claimed 2 million Americans would die..like the now disgraced English modeler did? Would you then have claimed he lied when ONLY 70K died? Probably! Dem's would be saying he over exaggerated and put everyone into a panic! Orange Man Bad!

May I call to your attention your own exaggeration of the fact that it isn't just one month from early March to early May! But then don't let small FACTS ruin your rant!

Trump has NOT eliminated the CoronaVirus Staff that he organized...he only stopped the publication of a CDC outline of recommendations, because he and others felt they were not pertinent! See how you keep confusing facts to make your ridiculous points!

YES, some of us are Trump supporters, we believe that is agenda for America is much better than a Socialist or Communist agenda, we prefer to keep the USA a sovereign nation & not bow to the globalists and the NWO! Guess we are just loyal to our Constitution then to all those so-called woke ideas of the left!

We understand there are those who prefer a different path, we think you are wrong-headed and possibly evil in your undertakings against our duly elected President! We wish we didn't have to put-up with your kind, but such is the price of FREEDOM!
We Trump supporters know that Trump is an optimist... (show quote)


Okay Auntie give me the definition of socialism and where we apply it to our government. Also throw in communism I would be awaiting your answer. I have asked this same question on OPP hundreds of times and still have not received an answer. So it has to be a simple answer because you made the comment so you must know what socialism is and where it applies to our government. (SO PLEASE HELP ME)

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May 25, 2020 13:47:01   #
Airforceone
 
rafterman wrote:
If I didn’t know any better, I’d find you to be an ignoramus. However, that would be an insult not tolerated on OPP, thus, possibly making this post subject to deletion. Let’s not have remarks made on any post judged to be offensive and the author an insensitive imbecile. (A previous post by me in response was deleted because it was considered an "insult".)

Anyway, President Trump closed travel to China on January 31, 2020 and the media and democrats, including presidential candidate Sleepy Joe Biden, called him a racist. AND, look here, you would have closed the country down on March 6, 2020 because of 14 deaths? Get your lysol mis-information together son because YOU have the story wrong - get the real facts straight so you don't write stuff like this that is so obviously criminally incorrect (that's assuming you use what God provided you with between your ears wisely and in a rational manner). You will find that even if Trump supports 80,000 deaths that if there turns out to be 60,000 or ever 240,000 (as originally projected by Dr. Fauci) you NON-Trump supporters will dump every bite of blame on him as you can - which from where I sit - only proves how unenlightened and prejudice you and people who think like you are.

As far as Trump moving the goal posts, what the hell is he supposed to do - say no Mr. Virus you can't take more (or less) lives than the models we used projected? You may not know this, but a good leader must provide an uplifting and positive demeanor and attitude. Would you have him say - Hey, not only should you be afraid and show it by staying at home, you should be steeped with shame because people are dying, and you are still alive. Maybe you would rather have Trump project the same Mr. Doom and Gloom attitude and demeanor of Gov Cuomo. Even though Cuomo (as a democrat) has some good ideas and his heart and effort are in the right place, watching and listening to that guy is like seeing an old black and white 1930's Lon Chaney horror movie. Come on man, just admit it - no matter how or what Trump says, you will oppose it. That is such shallow thinking. I am a normally a Trump supporter - but I vigorously disagreed with his proclamation that the country needs to stay at home and then signing that stimulus package, but instead thought only for the elderly should (be advised) stay home and tax incentives/breaks be developed in lieu of the $1,200.00 and unemployment benefits raised. My point is, the ill-informed disagree with President Trump just to disagree. He shuts down travel to China and your post indicates that you disagreed with doing that YET complain when there where 14 deaths on March 6 and think he should have done something at that time. However, your post does not indicate or put forth any solutions or ideas of the actions he should have taken. I apologize in advance if this offends, but it leads me to believe you don’t have a clue and there are many more things you have difficulty with providing any type of solution or at least the sliver of an idea. Are you often confused, or too feeble to think, or contemplate – am I left-handed or right-handed?

Trump did not say one million would die. Trump just followed the science, as he should have. That number was used by Trump because it was provided by someone from England who was "trusted" by Dr. Fauci of our CDC. Three days later, he changed his model and projections to the same number that Fauci eventually projected (240,000). Even Dr. Fauci's projections have changed DOWNWARD. So come on man, haven't you ever been involved in a venture or problem that was projected to cost $1 million dollars and after a few weeks into it, you found something that would cut the cost by - oh let’s say - 25%. Or have you ever needed an emergency repair on your house that the contractor projected to cost $10,000.00 and you had to leave your house for two days while the repairs were being done, but when finally finished, it wasn't quite the emergency as originally projected, you only needed to stay out of your house one day, and the cost was instead only $4,000.00. What would you do if that happened? Keep the goal posts in place? Celebrate? Cry? Brag? Bad mouth whoever projected the original cost? Call them a liar? Just asking! I'm only trying to say that given that THE WORLD (not just our country) has not (never) experienced anything like this coronavirus in our modern technological times, everything is fluid and changes daily, if not by the minute. (There wasn't a panic lock down for the Spanish flu 100 years ago, so that can't be used as a reference.)

And, when you start talking facts other than calling Trump a pathological liar, I'm more than willing to debate you. Until then, why don't you quit wasting space on this blog and find one that is more suitable. And by the way, if you start providing facts and cogent arguments, I will happily and respectfully debate with you. But as Joe Friday said on Dragnet, "The facts. Just the facts." Have a good day.
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Trump did not close travel from China. You call me ignorant. Well you are so ignorant to facts it’s makes me sick. If you bothered to look and do the proper research that fat lying POS in Jan. Did not shut down travel from China he put a travel restriction on Foreign nationals on Flights originating from Wuhan China.
It disgusting that this comment gets repeated on OPP. When if you wanted facts over 50,000 people flew into this country of flights originating from China and that does not even take into consideration the flights coming from Europe. So you call me ignorant.

From Jan21st to March 10th Trump did nothing but blame democrats, Fake News and governors and this country had no reliable test kit. These governors had no idea what they were dealing with. Your ignorance as to what he said versus what he actually did is disgusting. So I posted what Trump actually said .

Your ignorance shows that you have no idea that the United States of America was the Last country to have a test kit. Then when our CDC developed one there were no means to mass manufacturing of these test kits or anybody coordinating the distribution.

So to fill in your stupidity of calling me ignorant read these tweets and comments by Trump and then tell me he shut down China from entering this country.

So keep following that criminal cabal of lies and stay on the White House Clown car. Ignorance is a big part of the Trump clown car.









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May 25, 2020 14:23:11   #
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Airforceone wrote:
Trump did not close travel from China. You call me ignorant. Well you are so ignorant to facts it’s makes me sick. If you bothered to look and do the proper research that fat lying POS in Jan. Did not shut down travel from China he put a travel restriction on Foreign nationals on Flights originating from Wuhan China.
It disgusting that this comment gets repeated on OPP. When if you wanted facts over 50,000 people flew into this country of flights originating from China and that does not even take into consideration the flights coming from Europe. So you call me ignorant.

From Jan21st to March 10th Trump did nothing but blame democrats, Fake News and governors and this country had no reliable test kit. These governors had no idea what they were dealing with. Your ignorance as to what he said versus what he actually did is disgusting. So I posted what Trump actually said .

Your ignorance shows that you have no idea that the United States of America was the Last country to have a test kit. Then when our CDC developed one there were no means to mass manufacturing of these test kits or anybody coordinating the distribution.

So to fill in your stupidity of calling me ignorant read these tweets and comments by Trump and then tell me he shut down China from entering this country.

So keep following that criminal cabal of lies and stay on the White House Clown car. Ignorance is a big part of the Trump clown car.
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You may not be totally ignorant on this one issue but you are certainly disingenuous. When the president stopped travel from China, he stopped 500,000 non-US residents from travelling to the US from China. What he did not prevent was the return of 50,000 US citizens and US permanent residents to the safety of US from a region that was experiencing a rapid spread of an unknown virus. I can just imagine the howls from you and the rest of the left if the President had decreed that US citizens could not return to the US and must remain in China to become infected.

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May 25, 2020 16:58:25   #
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Airforceone wrote:
He didn’t stop 500,000 people are you that ignorant. He didn’t stop anybody until late March you damm fool. 500,000 don’t come here from China in one year. WTF is it with you people. He did nothing on foreign people entering this country until March 12 thatS when he announced it and and it was not until a week later it went into effect. So stop your ignorant GD BS why is it you people ignore the facts. You (F) ing live in a fantasy land.
Now you ignorant Trump supporters how GD people in this country died in April. Damm you people are ignorant.
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I've been suspended from OPP for labelling you exactly what you are so I won't reciprocate your name calling but I should warn you to be careful if you want to continue spewing your BS on this site. Try these sites to temper your lack of knowledge, intellectual ability, analytic ability, logic and ability to tell or distinguish the truth: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/31/business/china-travel-coronavirus.html
https://www.creditdonkey.com/business-travel-statistics.html
The Trump restriction of travel from China actually began February 2, not March 12 as you erroneously, as usual, stated; March 12 was the date travel was restricted from Europe. Approximately 5 MILLION people travel to the US from China each year for business and pleasure (the total number of business and leisure travelers to the US each year are in excess of 100 million). In other words the estimate of 500,000 fewer travelers from China during the months of February and March as a result of the Presiden's travel restrictions are probably an underestimate of about 300,000. The only people NOT affected by these restrictions were US citizens and permanent US residents; the US will never prevent the return of its citizens from disease or violence stricken regions to the safety of the US.

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May 25, 2020 20:46:02   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Airforceone wrote:
Trump did not close travel from China. You call me ignorant. Well you are so ignorant to facts it’s makes me sick. If you bothered to look and do the proper research that fat lying POS in Jan. Did not shut down travel from China he put a travel restriction on Foreign nationals on Flights originating from Wuhan China.
It disgusting that this comment gets repeated on OPP. When if you wanted facts over 50,000 people flew into this country of flights originating from China and that does not even take into consideration the flights coming from Europe. So you call me ignorant.

From Jan21st to March 10th Trump did nothing but blame democrats, Fake News and governors and this country had no reliable test kit. These governors had no idea what they were dealing with. Your ignorance as to what he said versus what he actually did is disgusting. So I posted what Trump actually said .

Your ignorance shows that you have no idea that the United States of America was the Last country to have a test kit. Then when our CDC developed one there were no means to mass manufacturing of these test kits or anybody coordinating the distribution.

So to fill in your stupidity of calling me ignorant read these tweets and comments by Trump and then tell me he shut down China from entering this country.

So keep following that criminal cabal of lies and stay on the White House Clown car. Ignorance is a big part of the Trump clown car.
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