Is a childs stomach unimportant? (Page 5): Just about everything involves money. The concern that a lot of people have is continued/increasing government involvement

American Vet

Iamdjchrys wrote:

The question was not about money. It's about taking the food from a child

Just about everything involves money.

The concern that a lot of people have is continued/increasing government involvement - do you understand all the ramifications of that?

Iamdjchrys Loc: Decatur, Texas

Pennylynn wrote:

And there is the issue.....perhaps instead of applying brakes we need to consider breaks, job creation comes when the rich invest in our nation.

Unfortunately, the rich tend to invest in themselves and not our nation.

Iamdjchrys Loc: Decatur, Texas

Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:

What is the core of the problem? don't bleeding he... (show quote)

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Iamdjchrys wrote:

Unfortunately, the rich tend to invest in themselves and not our nation.

Please go into detail of how you arrived at this conclusion.

Cuda2020

Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:

Jesus would probably get a job and take care of his child, not depend on others to do for him what one can, and should do for themselves......pretty sure he would not tax me for the burden created by another either.....actions have consequences.

Cuda2020

Pennylynn wrote:

Please go into detail of how you arrived at this conclusion.

We can look at those tax incentives, where the wealthy simply took that tax break to reinvest in their own stock or company.

The TJCA changed the law such that profits are taxed only where earned. To facilitate the transition between the two systems, the TJCA offered a tax “holiday” on pre-2018 foreign profits at a reduced rate of 15.5% on liquid assets (and 8% percent on other assets). The underlying logic for the TCJA was that allowing companies to keep a greater share of profits, would stimulate investments in long term growth. Instead, the dominant company response to the TCJA was stock buybacks. For the first three quarters of 2018, buybacks were $583.4 billion (up up 52.6% from 2017). In contrast, aggregate capital investment increased 8.8% over 2017, while R&D investment growth at US public companies increased 12.5% over 2017 growth.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/annemarieknott/2019/02/21/why-the-tax-cuts-and-jobs-act-tcja-led-to-buybacks-rather-than-investment/#3de4dc3e37fb

American Vet

Barracuda2020 wrote:

We can look at those tax incentives, where the wea... (show quote)

You mean the companies that provide what the public wants? And provides jobs for many people? And thus produces even more revenue in taxes? And the companies that devote more money to research to enhance their products?

Is that the companies you mean?

Cuda2020

Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:

What is the core of the problem? don't bleeding he... (show quote)

No excuses, is not very pragmatic...and no, we do not have the same chances when born, where did you get that utopian idea?

Cuda2020

American Vet wrote:

You mean the companies that provide what the public wants? And provides jobs for many people? And thus produces even more revenue in taxes? And the companies that devote more money to research to enhance their products?

Is that the companies you mean?

There are companies who do the right thing for which the tax incentive was created for, then there are those that don't, why should that be allowed, why should the tax break be exploited without consequence? Maybe if there were consequences they would avoid a substantial impactful penalty and actually reinvest back into the USA.

Our greatest power is our buying power and in order to make the needed changes we want to, think of our possibilities of what we can achieve if we actually received that reinvestment back into ourselves as a country ? Can you?

American Vet

Barracuda2020 wrote:

There are companies who do the right thing for whi... (show quote)

"There are companies who do the right thing for which the tax incentive was created for, then there are those that don't, why should that be allowed, why should the tax break be exploited without consequence?"

The same can be said about many government program. How would one discern those?

"Our greatest power is our buying power and in order to make the needed changes, think of our possibilities if we actually received that reinvestment in ourselves as a country what we can achieve? Can you?"

Sure can - you're starting to sound like a fiscal conservative.

Cuda2020

American Vet wrote:

Just about everything involves money.

The concern that a lot of people have is continued/increasing government involvement - do you understand all the ramifications of that?

Not as much of a concern as the control from monopolies, oligopolies that have surged, and without government control, we have no control over. As long as we keep our government's integrity to be run by the people and for the people, we have nothing to fear from the government.

Cuda2020

Coos Bay Tom wrote:

I pay taxes also. I am used to paying taxes. I get services such as national defense- Veterans healthcare and social security in return. To me I do not mind that some of what I pay to feed poor children come from the taxes that I pay in. Perhaps just going to a national sales tax would ensure that every citizen had skin in the game.------

What it comes down to is, that many people who have children, should not, but that is not the child's fault. People don't want to socialize and the children's home placement program is poor, yet how can we improve the upbringing of the children in this category in order to create a nurturing healthy environment in order for the outcome to be that they become productive human beings?

That is a win-win scenario but we refuse to put the R&D into that, to enable us to move forward with it, yet our military spending grows every year. Maybe they would be satisfied if we just fast track those kids to the military, then... they would get something out of it and see it as their win-win. For them, it's all about military expansion.

Cuda2020

American Vet wrote:

"There are companies who do the right thing f... (show quote)

One does not have to be a fiscal conservative, to be one. I'm an independent, the best thing we can do for ourselves is to stop labeling everyone along with the steadfast profiles, it's almost impossible to do today with these party polarizations but maybe then we can begin a dialog with each other without the stereotype baggage and we can stick to speaking with each other as the individuals that we are.

Wonttakeitanymore

Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:

Jesus would probably get a job and take care of his child, not depend on others to do for him what one can, and should do for themselves......pretty sure he would not tax me for the burden created by another either.....actions have consequences.

God wants us to work! He says to look at the ant! Welfare rats dont care about their children if they are able to work and choose to take drugs instead! Why would a food stamp program have to add a food a snap program for nourishing food? It’s because these people, lazy ones use the other money for cell phones, booze, etc, we should go back to the way welfare used to be; temporary, and a box of food that you had to prepare! Never meant to b a way of life! Or generational!!! Make it a pay it forward program, 6 months, then you get a job and pay it back to help someone else!!!

Wonttakeitanymore

Coos Bay Tom wrote:

Do you believe a child with no money should have their food taken from them in the lunch line at school? Is that the right thing to do? Would you do that?

They should investigate the child’s home and find out why if it occurs regularly! Call the local church to help!