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Dec 2, 2019 17:14:53   #
PeterS
 
I just watched Donald Trump's latest attack on Lisa Page and Peter Strzok where he goes full porno and just stops short of humping the American flag...all while you conservatives cheered their little moral hearts out. There was a time when such behavior by any politician would have been shocking but this is just Donald Trump and the Donald Trump conservatives want to hear and boy did you people cheer as you had never cheered before.

Of course, this begs the question of why but shooting the messenger is at the heart of every political argument conservatives make. Lisa and Peter are just low hanging fruit and just enough to keep you cons somewhat satisfied but we all know the messenger you really want to shoot is the whistleblower and nothing makes you madder than not to be able to get you paws around his/her neck.

Now Blade Runner said you cons aren't "stuck on stupid" yet a 'smart' person can argue in something but the most rudimentary of logical fallacies. Now as I explained to Blade when you can't argue in anything BUT logical fallacies you lose all ability to see and understand objective truth. So Ukraine, not Russia attacked us, or the Ukraine AND Russia us is believable but Russia attacking us for the purpose of electing Donald Trump is a complete and absurd impossibility!

And of course, you guys bought into the conspiracy theory that a nefarious "Deep State" controlled by e-vile liberals appointed Mueller for the full and complete purpose of taking down YOUR president. And the FACT that YOUR president appointed Rosenstein--who appointed Mueller--meaning that Trump would have had been in on the conspiracy to get him booted from office...somehow never became obvious to you why your conspiracy was false. I pointed that out to Blade Runner a dozen times and he could never connect that to why his conspiracy, that he believed with all of his heart, was a pile of conservative bunk! In fact, it turned out that Rosenstein had been a puppy dog of the presidents all along!

So enjoy your porno president. You deserve him--sadly, the rest of the country doesn't...

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Dec 2, 2019 17:24:02   #
Squiddiddler Loc: Phoenix
 
PeterS wrote:
I just watched Donald Trump's latest attack on Lisa Page and Peter Strzok where he goes full porno and just stops short of humping the American flag...all while you conservatives cheered their little moral hearts out. There was a time when such behavior by any politician would have been shocking but this is just Donald Trump and the Donald Trump conservatives want to hear and boy did you people cheer as you had never cheered before.

Of course, this begs the question of why but shooting the messenger is at the heart of every political argument conservatives make. Lisa and Peter are just low hanging fruit and just enough to keep you cons somewhat satisfied but we all know the messenger you really want to shoot is the whistleblower and nothing makes you madder than not to be able to get you paws around his/her neck.

Now Blade Runner said you cons aren't "stuck on stupid" yet a 'smart' person can argue in something but the most rudimentary of logical fallacies. Now as I explained to Blade when you can't argue in anything BUT logical fallacies you lose all ability to see and understand objective truth. So Ukraine, not Russia attacked us, or the Ukraine AND Russia us is believable but Russia attacking us for the purpose of electing Donald Trump is a complete and absurd impossibility!

And of course, you guys bought into the conspiracy theory that a nefarious "Deep State" controlled by e-vile liberals appointed Mueller for the full and complete purpose of taking down YOUR president. And the FACT that YOUR president appointed Rosenstein--who appointed Mueller--meaning that Trump would have had been in on the conspiracy to get him booted from office...somehow never became obvious to you why your conspiracy was false. I pointed that out to Blade Runner a dozen times and he could never connect that to why his conspiracy, that he believed with all of his heart, was a pile of conservative bunk! In fact, it turned out that Rosenstein had been a puppy dog of the presidents all along!

So enjoy your porno president. You deserve him--sadly, the rest of the country doesn't...
I just watched Donald Trump's latest attack on Lis... (show quote)


That's the name of the game baby.

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Dec 2, 2019 17:30:15   #
MR Mister Loc: Washington DC
 
PeterS wrote:
I just watched Donald Trump's latest attack on Lisa Page and Peter Strzok where he goes full porno and just stops short of humping the American flag...all while you conservatives cheered their little moral hearts out. There was a time when such behavior by any politician would have been shocking but this is just Donald Trump and the Donald Trump conservatives want to hear and boy did you people cheer as you had never cheered before.

Of course, this begs the question of why but shooting the messenger is at the heart of every political argument conservatives make. Lisa and Peter are just low hanging fruit and just enough to keep you cons somewhat satisfied but we all know the messenger you really want to shoot is the whistleblower and nothing makes you madder than not to be able to get you paws around his/her neck.

Now Blade Runner said you cons aren't "stuck on stupid" yet a 'smart' person can argue in something but the most rudimentary of logical fallacies. Now as I explained to Blade when you can't argue in anything BUT logical fallacies you lose all ability to see and understand objective truth. So Ukraine, not Russia attacked us, or the Ukraine AND Russia us is believable but Russia attacking us for the purpose of electing Donald Trump is a complete and absurd impossibility!

And of course, you guys bought into the conspiracy theory that a nefarious "Deep State" controlled by e-vile liberals appointed Mueller for the full and complete purpose of taking down YOUR president. And the FACT that YOUR president appointed Rosenstein--who appointed Mueller--meaning that Trump would have had been in on the conspiracy to get him booted from office...somehow never became obvious to you why your conspiracy was false. I pointed that out to Blade Runner a dozen times and he could never connect that to why his conspiracy, that he believed with all of his heart, was a pile of conservative bunk! In fact, it turned out that Rosenstein had been a puppy dog of the presidents all along!

So enjoy your porno president. You deserve him--sadly, the rest of the country doesn't...
I just watched Donald Trump's latest attack on Lis... (show quote)


That's bull, Trump just has to repeat her words, that alone should be all that's needed to put her in an orange suit.

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Dec 2, 2019 18:11:51   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
Squiddiddler wrote:
That's the name of the game baby.


Nobody said politics was fair, ask HRC she designed the very framework.

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Dec 2, 2019 18:54:03   #
son of witless
 
PeterS wrote:
I just watched Donald Trump's latest attack on Lisa Page and Peter Strzok where he goes full porno and just stops short of humping the American flag...all while you conservatives cheered their little moral hearts out. There was a time when such behavior by any politician would have been shocking but this is just Donald Trump and the Donald Trump conservatives want to hear and boy did you people cheer as you had never cheered before.

Of course, this begs the question of why but shooting the messenger is at the heart of every political argument conservatives make. Lisa and Peter are just low hanging fruit and just enough to keep you cons somewhat satisfied but we all know the messenger you really want to shoot is the whistleblower and nothing makes you madder than not to be able to get you paws around his/her neck.

Now Blade Runner said you cons aren't "stuck on stupid" yet a 'smart' person can argue in something but the most rudimentary of logical fallacies. Now as I explained to Blade when you can't argue in anything BUT logical fallacies you lose all ability to see and understand objective truth. So Ukraine, not Russia attacked us, or the Ukraine AND Russia us is believable but Russia attacking us for the purpose of electing Donald Trump is a complete and absurd impossibility!

And of course, you guys bought into the conspiracy theory that a nefarious "Deep State" controlled by e-vile liberals appointed Mueller for the full and complete purpose of taking down YOUR president. And the FACT that YOUR president appointed Rosenstein--who appointed Mueller--meaning that Trump would have had been in on the conspiracy to get him booted from office...somehow never became obvious to you why your conspiracy was false. I pointed that out to Blade Runner a dozen times and he could never connect that to why his conspiracy, that he believed with all of his heart, was a pile of conservative bunk! In fact, it turned out that Rosenstein had been a puppy dog of the presidents all along!

So enjoy your porno president. You deserve him--sadly, the rest of the country doesn't...
I just watched Donald Trump's latest attack on Lis... (show quote)


Do you feel sorry for Lisa Page ?

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Dec 2, 2019 19:18:19   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
PeterS wrote:
I just watched Donald Trump's latest attack on Lisa Page and Peter Strzok where he goes full porno and just stops short of humping the American flag...all while you conservatives cheered their little moral hearts out. There was a time when such behavior by any politician would have been shocking but this is just Donald Trump and the Donald Trump conservatives want to hear and boy did you people cheer as you had never cheered before.

Of course, this begs the question of why but shooting the messenger is at the heart of every political argument conservatives make. Lisa and Peter are just low hanging fruit and just enough to keep you cons somewhat satisfied but we all know the messenger you really want to shoot is the whistleblower and nothing makes you madder than not to be able to get you paws around his/her neck.

Now Blade Runner said you cons aren't "stuck on stupid" yet a 'smart' person can argue in something but the most rudimentary of logical fallacies. Now as I explained to Blade when you can't argue in anything BUT logical fallacies you lose all ability to see and understand objective truth. So Ukraine, not Russia attacked us, or the Ukraine AND Russia us is believable but Russia attacking us for the purpose of electing Donald Trump is a complete and absurd impossibility!

And of course, you guys bought into the conspiracy theory that a nefarious "Deep State" controlled by e-vile liberals appointed Mueller for the full and complete purpose of taking down YOUR president. And the FACT that YOUR president appointed Rosenstein--who appointed Mueller--meaning that Trump would have had been in on the conspiracy to get him booted from office...somehow never became obvious to you why your conspiracy was false. I pointed that out to Blade Runner a dozen times and he could never connect that to why his conspiracy, that he believed with all of his heart, was a pile of conservative bunk! In fact, it turned out that Rosenstein had been a puppy dog of the presidents all along!

So enjoy your porno president. You deserve him--sadly, the rest of the country doesn't...
I just watched Donald Trump's latest attack on Lis... (show quote)

One FBI text message in Russia probe that should alarm every American

By John Solomon

Lisa Page and Peter Strzok, the reported FBI lovebirds, are the poster children for the next “Don’t Text and Investigate” public service ads airing soon at an FBI office near you.

Their extraordinary texting affair on their government phones has given the FBI a black eye, laying bare a raw political bias brought into the workplace that agents are supposed to check at the door when they strap on their guns and badges.

It is no longer in dispute that they held animus for Donald Trump, who was a subject of their Russia probe, or that they openly discussed using the powers of their office to “stop” Trump from becoming president. The only question is whether any official acts they took in the Russia collusion probe were driven by those sentiments.

The Justice Department’s inspector general is endeavoring to answer that question.

For any American who wants an answer sooner, there are just five words, among the thousands of suggestive texts Page and Strzok exchanged, that you should read.

That passage was transmitted on May 19, 2017. “There’s no big there there,” Strzok texted.

The date of the text long has intrigued investigators: It is two days after Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein named special counsel Robert Mueller to oversee an investigation into alleged collusion between Trump and the Russia campaign.

Since the text was turned over to Congress, investigators wondered whether it referred to the evidence against the Trump campaign.

This month, they finally got the chance to ask. Strzok declined to say — but Page, during a closed-door interview with lawmakers, confirmed in the most pained and contorted way that the message in fact referred to the quality of the Russia case, according to multiple eyewitnesses.

The admission is deeply consequential. It means Rosenstein unleashed the most awesome powers of a special counsel to investigate an allegation that the key FBI officials, driving the investigation for 10 months beforehand, did not think was “there.”

By the time of the text and Mueller’s appointment, the FBI’s best counterintelligence agents had had plenty of time to dig. They knowingly used a dossier funded by Hillary Clinton’s campaign — which contained uncorroborated allegations — to persuade the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court to issue a warrant to monitor Trump campaign adviser Carter Page (no relation to Lisa Page).

They sat on Carter Page’s phones and emails for nearly six months without getting evidence that would warrant prosecuting him. The evidence they had gathered was deemed so weak that their boss, then-FBI Director James Comey, was forced to admit to Congress after being fired by Trump that the core allegation remained substantially uncorroborated.

In other words, they had a big nothing burger. And, based on that empty-calorie dish, Rosenstein authorized the buffet menu of a special prosecutor that has cost America millions of dollars and months of political strife.

The work product Strzok created to justify the collusion probe now has been shown to be inferior: A Clinton-hired contractor produced multiple documents accusing Trump of wrongdoing during the election; each was routed to the FBI through a different source or was used to seed news articles with similar allegations that further built an uncorroborated public narrative of Trump-Russia collusion. Most troubling, the FBI relied on at least one of those news stories to justify the FISA warrant against Carter Page.

That sort of multifaceted allegation machine, which can be traced back to a single source, is known in spy craft as “circular intelligence reporting,” and it’s the sort of bad product that professional spooks are trained to spot and reject.

But Team Strzok kept pushing it through the system, causing a major escalation of a probe for which, by his own words, he knew had “no big there there.”

The answer as to why a pro such as Strzok would take such action has become clearer, at least to congressional investigators. That clarity comes from the context of the other emails and text messages that surrounded the May 19, 2017, declaration.

It turns out that what Strzok and Lisa Page were really doing that day was debating whether they should stay with the FBI and try to rise through the ranks to the level of an assistant director (AD) or join Mueller’s special counsel team.

“Who gives a f*ck, one more AD like [redacted] or whoever?” Strzok wrote, weighing the merits of promotion, before apparently suggesting what would be a more attractive role: “An investigation leading to impeachment?”

Lisa Page apparently realized the conversation had gone too far and tried to reel it in. “We should stop having this conversation here,” she texted back, adding later it was important to examine “the different realistic outcomes of this case.”

A few minutes later Strzok texted his own handicap of the Russia evidence: “You and I both know the odds are nothing. If I thought it was likely, I’d be there no question. I hesitate in part because of my gut sense and concern there’s no big there there.”

So the FBI agents who helped drive the Russia collusion narrative — as well as Rosenstein’s decision to appoint Mueller — apparently knew all along that the evidence was going to lead to “nothing” and, yet, they proceeded because they thought there was still a possibility of impeachment.

Impeachment is a political outcome. The only logical conclusion, then, that congressional investigators can make is that political bias led these agents to press an investigation forward to achieve the political outcome of impeachment, even though their professional training told them it had “no big there there.”

And that, by definition, is political bias in action.

How concerned you are by this conduct is almost certainly affected by your love or hatred for Trump. But put yourself for a second in the hot seat of an investigation by the same FBI cast of characters: You are under investigation for a crime the agents don’t think occurred, but the investigation still advances because the desired outcome is to get you fired from your job.

Is that an FBI you can live with?

Peter Strzok’s Texts & Emails to Lisa Page Revealed

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Dec 3, 2019 09:49:23   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
PeterS wrote:
I just watched Donald Trump's latest attack on Lisa Page and Peter Strzok where he goes full porno and just stops short of humping the American flag...all while you conservatives cheered their little moral hearts out. There was a time when such behavior by any politician would have been shocking but this is just Donald Trump and the Donald Trump conservatives want to hear and boy did you people cheer as you had never cheered before.

Of course, this begs the question of why but shooting the messenger is at the heart of every political argument conservatives make. Lisa and Peter are just low hanging fruit and just enough to keep you cons somewhat satisfied but we all know the messenger you really want to shoot is the whistleblower and nothing makes you madder than not to be able to get you paws around his/her neck.

Now Blade Runner said you cons aren't "stuck on stupid" yet a 'smart' person can argue in something but the most rudimentary of logical fallacies. Now as I explained to Blade when you can't argue in anything BUT logical fallacies you lose all ability to see and understand objective truth. So Ukraine, not Russia attacked us, or the Ukraine AND Russia us is believable but Russia attacking us for the purpose of electing Donald Trump is a complete and absurd impossibility!

And of course, you guys bought into the conspiracy theory that a nefarious "Deep State" controlled by e-vile liberals appointed Mueller for the full and complete purpose of taking down YOUR president. And the FACT that YOUR president appointed Rosenstein--who appointed Mueller--meaning that Trump would have had been in on the conspiracy to get him booted from office...somehow never became obvious to you why your conspiracy was false. I pointed that out to Blade Runner a dozen times and he could never connect that to why his conspiracy, that he believed with all of his heart, was a pile of conservative bunk! In fact, it turned out that Rosenstein had been a puppy dog of the presidents all along!

So enjoy your porno president. You deserve him--sadly, the rest of the country doesn't...
I just watched Donald Trump's latest attack on Lis... (show quote)


If you're incapable of determining the Presence of God why should we believe you can comprehend the Presence of the Deep State?

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Dec 3, 2019 11:27:05   #
kemmer
 
padremike wrote:
If you're incapable of determining the Presence of God why should we believe you can comprehend the Presence of the Deep State?


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Dec 3, 2019 12:39:12   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
kemmer wrote:


I guess you didn't get it huh? I'll simplify it just for you..... The greatest of all realities is the existence of God. 😇

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Dec 3, 2019 13:36:19   #
kemmer
 
padremike wrote:
I guess you didn't get it huh? I'll simplify it just for you..... The greatest of all realities is the existence of God. 😇

And stupidity. Don’t forget stupidity.

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Dec 3, 2019 14:00:03   #
Mike Easterday
 
The FBI can no longer be trusted for fair justice.

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Dec 3, 2019 14:14:49   #
kemmer
 
Mike Easterday wrote:
The FBI can no longer be trusted for fair justice.

...so long as that wretched butthead Billy Barr is Trump’s personal lawyer and pretending to be the US AG.

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Dec 3, 2019 14:48:17   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
kemmer wrote:
And stupidity. Don’t forget stupidity.


Stupidity? Are you saying this is your own condition or is it more cryptic than that?

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Dec 3, 2019 14:58:21   #
kemmer
 
padremike wrote:
Stupidity? Are you saying this is your own condition or is it more cryptic than that?

Sometimes—nay—most times, you can be dense as a block of granite.

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Dec 3, 2019 15:19:11   #
Mike Easterday
 
kemmer wrote:
...so long as that wretched butthead Billy Barr is Trump’s personal lawyer and pretending to be the US AG.


It has been ROTTEN since Clinton!

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