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Nov 30, 2019 19:42:44   #
kemmer
 
padremike wrote:
Homosexual orientation can be cured and homosexual actions can cease.

That dangerous and harmful scam of “conversion therapy” has been outlawed in 16 states.
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I acknowledge that indeed your family, friends etc, may not have been responsible for helping you reject homosexuality. Perhaps they tried and finally gave up.

My parents accepted my partner as another son. The world will be a better place when hateful, ignorant people like you are gone.
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Even your Episcopal church accepts you as you are with the caveat that God approves of your homosexuality and you don't need to change.

A light in the wilderness!
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It is a damnable lie but it serves your purpose and your lack of courage very well.

Being and living who I am takes a lot more courage than rolling over and playing dead to please monsters like you.
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Any questions?

Hahahaha.... You’re the very last one any sane person should pose a religious question to—or any sort of question for that matter.

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Nov 30, 2019 22:09:09   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
kemmer wrote:
Hahahaha.... You’re the very last one any sane person should pose a religious question to—or any sort of question for that matter.


You've got it all sorted and figured out and neatly packed in your own little compartments, tapped down and sealed tight. One of the worst kinds of lie is lying to oneself. Remember, that which is wrong will always be wrong no matter who says it is right. conversely, that which is right will always be right no matter who says it is wrong. These Truths are simplified for folks easily confused or trying to justify their behavior. Another one is that all Truth, all real Truth, comes only from God. A lie is a denial of Truth. Since all Truth emanate from God and a lie is a denial of Truth then a lie is a denial of God. God's Truth tells us homosexuality is a sin, an abomination. His Words not my own. The only way to rid ourselves of sin is to stop the direction we're going, turn completely around, go the opposite direction, confess our sins, and amend our life.

Do you recognize that I'm the only one on this forum who puts up with your insults, your lies and constant distortions, and trash mouth in general? I have hope for you.

I went thru seminary with a man who, after he was ordained and sent to a parish in a small remote town, admitted to me he was a homosexual. He said he now had a live in boyfriend who, with the prospect of eventual sexual relations, was taking advantage of my friend's generosity. He was having trouble in his parish too. I took off for ten days, Jeanette and I traveled 700 miles and stayed in a hotel at our expense. My friend and I prayed together, cried together and had many long hours of conversation. When Jeanette and I returned home after my friend confessed his sins and received absolution, it wasn't two months before he left the priesthood and took up living with another homosexual. I know well the power of a negative free will. Of the several young women I had opportunity to counsel to discourage them from killing their unborn child everyone of them had the abortion. I know well the power of a negative free will which I am duty bound to honor the right of conscience to do wrong. However, of the marriages I have officiated and given hours of prenuptial counseling all have strong, loving marriages. They came to understand that God is an essential Person in marriage. I hope you eventually come to the realization that He cannot approve of your sexual relationship because He cannot change and continue to be God. I'm not foolish enough to believe that our discussions will influence you. Afterall my success rate with homosexuals is pretty lousy. And although I've agitated you many times It was always done on purpose. 😇

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Nov 30, 2019 22:39:15   #
kemmer
 
padremike wrote:
God's Truth tells us homosexuality is a sin, an abomination

Yeah, like eating shellfish and wearing clothing of mixed fibers; and it’s OK to take neighboring people as slaves.
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Do you recognize that I'm the only one on this forum who puts up with your insults, your lies and constant distortions, and trash mouth in general? I have hope for you.

Hahaha... And I put up with yours!
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I went thru seminary with a man who, after he was ordained and sent to a parish in a small remote town, admitted to me he was a homosexual. He said he now had a live in boyfriend who, with the prospect of eventual sexual relations, was taking advantage of my friend's generosity. He was having trouble in his parish too. I took off for ten days, Jeanette and I traveled 700 miles and stayed in a hotel at our expense. My friend and I prayed together, cried together and had many long hours of conversation. When Jeanette and I returned home after my friend confessed his sins and received absolution, it wasn't two months before he left the priesthood and took up living with another homosexual.
I went thru seminary with a man who, after he was... (show quote)

Good on him! He found love and fulfillment away from your vicious judgement. I know of at least one priest, who faced with bigots such as you, committed suicide. He was a friend.
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I hope you eventually come to the realization that He cannot approve of your sexual relationship because He cannot change and continue to be God.

God is fine with my 45 year relationship with my partner. Go sell your bigotry and pseudo-religious snake oil to your gullible thralls.
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Afterall my success rate with homosexuals is pretty lousy.

Thank God for that!

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Dec 1, 2019 07:47:53   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
kemmer wrote:
Thank God for that!


Sodomy is a pain in the butt!

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Dec 1, 2019 08:45:54   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
kemmer wrote:
Thank God for that!


You certainly are proficient in exercising your free will to commit sacrilege and blasphemy, especially the sin against Truth, and you even credit/thank God for homosexuality. Understand that even if you eventually condemn yourself to hell God's love for you does not change or lessen. God's love for you had never been questioned, rather it's your love of God.

Kemmer, you do realize that Christians can eat shellfish, wear clothes of mixed fabric yet we're prohibited from the continuation of the other Jewish Old Testament practice of stoning etc, etc, etc. Your argument is without substance. The New Testament continues the prohibition of homosexuality as serious sin and there is no, "we've been together for 45 years" exception clause.

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Dec 1, 2019 10:48:41   #
kemmer
 
amadjuster wrote:
Sodomy is a pain in the butt!

It's all in the technique.

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Dec 1, 2019 11:03:51   #
kemmer
 
padremike wrote:
Your argument is without substance.

Hahahaha.... You sound like Rudy Giuliani.
I love baiting you. It's like arguing with some backwoods pastor in about 1870, who still thinks the bible clearly states "negras" are inferior, bear the mark of Cain, and are only fit to serve white folks.

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Dec 1, 2019 12:22:51   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
kemmer wrote:
Hahahaha.... You sound like Rudy Giuliani.
I love baiting you. It's like arguing with some backwoods pastor in about 1870, who still thinks the bible clearly states "negras" are inferior, bear the mark of Cain, and are only fit to serve white folks.


Can't shut it down or turn it off can you? OK, I'll stay with you as long as you want.

You're not baiting me; you come across like any other Obsessive compulsive? Now let's get some facts right and expose you pettiness. You've never argued with some backwoods pastor from the 1870's so when you claim that "I believe the Bible clearly states 'negras' are inferior, bear the mark of Cain and only fit to serve white folks"' you are adding bearing false witness to your other grievous sins. It's a lie! I am fully aware that you don't care what anyone says negatively regarding your homosexuality, not even God, and that your pride guides your judgment. That pride can certainly affect your final judgment. I didn't say anything about "negras", the mark of Cain, serving white folks, etc. I addressed your homosexuality you are the one who branches off in obscure directions effectively saying that you're OK, it's me that doesn't understand, me who needs to Compromise the faith to make you feel better. We're not supposed to feel good about ourselves when we sin. You still possess your free Will that not even God will take away from you.

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Dec 1, 2019 13:18:10   #
kemmer
 
padremike wrote:
Can't shut it down or turn it off can you? OK, I'll stay with you as long as you want.

You're not baiting me; you come across like any other Obsessive compulsive? Now let's get some facts right and expose you pettiness. You've never argued with some backwoods pastor from the 1870's so when you claim that "I believe the Bible clearly states 'negras' are inferior, bear the mark of Cain and only fit to serve white folks"' you are adding bearing false witness to your other grievous sins. It's a lie! I am fully aware that you don't care what anyone says negatively regarding your homosexuality, not even God, and that your pride guides your judgment. That pride can certainly affect your final judgment. I didn't say anything about "negras", the mark of Cain, serving white folks, etc. I addressed your homosexuality you are the one who branches off in obscure directions effectively saying that you're OK, it's me that doesn't understand, me who needs to Compromise the faith to make you feel better. We're not supposed to feel good about ourselves when we sin. You still possess your free Will that not even God will take away from you.
Can't shut it down or turn it off can you? OK, I'l... (show quote)

You really get on a tear, don’tcha.
In your dark, damp world, all gay men and women must resign themselves to lifelong solitary frustrating celibacy. Who in their right mind would worship a beast like your idea of God, I ask you. God wants us to be happy in this world (Baltimore Catechism) and that sure as hell ain’t happy.

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Dec 1, 2019 15:23:32   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
kemmer wrote:
You really get on a tear, don’tcha.
In your dark, damp world, all gay men and women must resign themselves to lifelong solitary frustrating celibacy. Who in their right mind would worship a beast like your idea of God, I ask you. God wants us to be happy in this world (Baltimore Catechism) and that sure as hell ain’t happy.


So maybe your happy heaven will provide you with 72 young male virgins who want to become homosexuals? Absurd!!! It is you that make God a beast not i.

To answer your question YES! No sex outside lawful marriage. Lawful is not to be confused with legal and it is tragic how we now need to differentiate between The two. The Apostle Paul says simply and directly that unrepentant adulterers, fornicators, and homosexuals will not enter the Kingdom of God (cf. 1 Cor 6.9–10, Gal 5.19).

Also, Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled; for God will judge the immoral and the adulterous (Heb 13.4). According to the revelation of God, sexual relations are holy and pure only within the community of marriage, with the ideal relationship being that between one man and one woman forever. Those who are not married and those who choose by the will of God not to marry must abstain from all sexual relations since such relations cannot possibly fulfill the function given to the sexual act by God in creation. This does not mean that there will be no sexual character to the unmarried person’s spiritual life, for the unmarried man and the unmarried woman will still express their humanity in masculine and feminine spiritual forms. The virtues and fruits of the Spirit in each, as in those who are married, are identical, but the manner of their incarnation and expression will be proper to the particular sexual form of their common humanity, as well as the individual uniqueness of each person. Kemmer, you are indeed unique.

Now let us be honest, illicit sex has been around practically forever. It's the sin of Pride you understand? Using one's will to go against God's holy will. If it were possible to quantify sin the sin of Pride would take first place since this sin is part of every sin. Pride elevates our will over God's. Most people believe sexual sin is the worst of all human sin. It used to be a cause for shame and embarrassment. Used to be, not so much anymore huh? If we all weren't sinners what need would Jesus serve? Yet He's never a free pass to sin or continue in sin. "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His Word is not in us."

We always come back to the same place, free wil!!

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Dec 1, 2019 22:54:45   #
kemmer
 
padremike wrote:
So maybe your happy heaven will provide you with 72 young male virgins who want to become homosexuals?

You’re really scraping the bottom of the barrel, aren’tcha, booby.
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The Apostle Paul says simply and directly that unrepentant adulterers, fornicators, and homosexuals will not enter the Kingdom of God (cf. 1 Cor 6.9–10, Gal 5.19).

Paul said nothing about homosexuals. Neither did Jesus.

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Those who are not married and those who choose by the will of God not to marry must abstain from all sexual relations since such relations cannot possibly fulfill the function given to the sexual act by God in creation.

Fine—for those who wish to become monks and nuns.
Forbidding love to the rest is stupid and ungodly.
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This does not mean that there will be no sexual character to the unmarried person’s spiritual life, for the unmarried man and the unmarried woman will still express their humanity in masculine and feminine spiritual forms.

Hahahahaha..... Seriously?! They will have “spiritual sex”? Holy masturbation?
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The virtues and fruits of the Spirit in each, as in those who are married, are identical, but the manner of their incarnation and expression will be proper to the particular sexual form of their common humanity, as well as the individual uniqueness of each person.

I’ve read some foggy and ridiculous attempts at pseudo religious clap-trap, but you win the prize for outstanding obfuscation.
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Kemmer, you are indeed unique.

Aren’t we all.
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Most people believe sexual sin is the worst of all human sin.

Hahahahaha... Yeah, right.
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It used to be a cause for shame and embarrassment. Used to be, not so much anymore huh? If we all weren't sinners what need would Jesus serve? Yet He's never a free pass to sin or continue in sin. "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His Word is not in us."

You’ll never make any money as a published theologian.
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We always come back to the same place, free wil!!

Which you clearly don’t understand.

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Dec 2, 2019 14:04:11   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
kemmer wrote:
Which you clearly don’t understand.


Trash talk trying to justify your behavior. It doesn't work, it's very transparent. However, you say St. Paul had nothing to say about homosexuality? Pick a translation......1 Cor 6:9

KJ21 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God? Be not deceived: Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor the effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
ASV Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men,
AMP Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit or have any share in the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate [by perversion], nor those who participate in homosexuality,
AMPC Do you not know that the unrighteous and the wrongdoers will not inherit or have any share in the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived (misled): neither the impure and immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor those who participate in homosexuality,
BRG Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
CSB Don’t you know that the unrighteous will not inherit God’s kingdom? Do not be deceived: No sexually immoral people, idolaters, adulterers, or males who have sex with males,
CEB Don’t you know that people who are unjust won’t inherit God’s kingdom? Don’t be deceived. Those who are sexually immoral, those who worship false gods, adulterers, both participants in same-sex intercourse,
CJB Don’t you know that unrighteous people will have no share in the Kingdom of God? Don’t delude yourselves — people who engage in sex before marriage, who worship idols, who engage in sex after marriage with someone other than their spouse, who engage in active or passive homosexuality,
CEV Don’t you know that evil people won’t have a share in the blessings of God’s kingdom? Don’t fool yourselves! No one who is immoral or worships idols or is unfaithful in marriage or is a pervert or behaves like a homosexual
DARBY Do ye not know that unrighteous [persons] shall not inherit [the] kingdom of God? Do not err: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor those who make women of themselves, nor who abuse themselves with men,
DLNT Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit God’s kingdom? Do not be deceived. Neither sexually-immoral ones, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homo-erotic-partners, nor homosexuals,
DRA Know you not that the unjust shall not possess the kingdom of God? Do not err: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers,
ERV Surely you know that people who do wrong will not get to enjoy God’s kingdom. Don’t be fooled. These are the people who will not get to enjoy his kingdom: those who sin sexually, those who worship idols, those who commit adultery, men who let other men use them for sex or who have sex with other men, those who steal, those who are greedy, those who drink too much, those who abuse others with insults, and those who cheat.
EHV Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor males who have sex with males,
ESV Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,
ESVUK Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practise homosexuality,
EXB ·Surely [L Don’t…?] you know that the ·people who do wrong [unrighteous; wicked; unjust] will not inherit God’s kingdom. Do not be ·fooled [deceived]. Those who sin sexually, worship idols, take part in adultery, those who are ·male prostitutes [or passive homosexual partners], or ·men who have sexual relations with other men [or active homosexual partners], those who steal, are greedy, get drunk, ·lie about others [slander others; use abusive language], or ·rob [swindle]—these people will not inherit God’s kingdom.
GNV Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor wantons, nor buggerers,
GW Don’t you know that wicked people won’t inherit God’s kingdom? Stop deceiving yourselves! People who continue to commit sexual sins, who worship false gods, those who commit adultery, homosexuals,
GNT Surely you know that the wicked will not possess God's Kingdom. Do not fool yourselves; people who are immoral or who worship idols or are adulterers or homosexual perverts
HCSB Don’t you know that the unrighteous will not inherit God’s kingdom? Do not be deceived: No sexually immoral people, idolaters, adulterers, or anyone practicing homosexuality,
ICB Surely you know that the people who do wrong will not receive God’s kingdom. Do not be fooled. These people will not receive God’s kingdom: those who are sexually immoral, or worship idols, or take part in adultery, or men who have physical relations with other men, or steal, or are selfish, or get drunk, or lie about others, or cheat.
ISV You know that wicked people will not inherit the kingdom of God, don’t you? Stop deceiving yourselves! Sexually immoral people, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, homosexuals,
PHILLIPS Have you forgotten that the kingdom of God will never belong to the wicked? Don’t be under any illusion—neither the impure, the idolater or the adulterer; neither the effeminate, the pervert or the thief; neither the swindler, the drunkard, the foul-mouthed or the rapacious shall have any share in the kingdom of God. And such men, remember, were some of you! But you have cleansed yourselves from all that, you have been made whole in spirit, you have been justified before God in the name of the Lord Jesus and in his very Spirit.
JUB ¶ Know ye not that the unjust shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not err: neither fornicators nor idolaters nor adulterers nor effeminate nor homosexuals
KJV Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
AKJV Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
LEB Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! Neither sexually immoral people, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor passive homosexual partners, nor dominant homosexual partners,
TLB Don’t you know that those doing such things have no share in the Kingdom of God? Don’t fool yourselves. Those who live immoral lives, who are idol worshipers, adulterers or homosexuals—will have no share in his Kingdom. Neither will thieves or greedy people, drunkards, slanderers, or robbers.
MSG Don’t you realize that this is not the way to live? Unjust people who don’t care about God will not be joining in his kingdom. Those who use and abuse each other, use and abuse sex, use and abuse the earth and everything in it, don’t qualify as citizens in God’s kingdom. A number of you know from experience what I’m talking about, for not so long ago you were on that list. Since then, you’ve been cleaned up and given a fresh start by Jesus, our Master, our Messiah, and by our God present in us, the Spirit.
MEV Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor male prostitutes, nor homosexuals,
MOUNCE Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor male prostitutes, nor homosexuals,
NOG Don’t you know that wicked people won’t inherit the kingdom of God? Stop deceiving yourselves! People who continue to commit sexual sins, who worship false gods, those who commit adultery, homosexuals,
NABRE Do you not know that the unjust will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators nor idolaters nor adulterers nor boy prostitutes nor sodomites
NASB Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,
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NET Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! The sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, passive homosexual partners, practicing homosexuals,
NIRV Don’t you know that people who do wrong will not receive God’s kingdom? Don’t be fooled. Those who commit sexual sins will not receive the kingdom. Neither will those who worship statues of gods or commit adultery. Neither will men who sleep with other men.
NIV Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men
NIVUK Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men
NKJV Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites,
NLV Do you not know that sinful men will have no place in the holy nation of God? Do not be fooled. A person who does sex sins, or who worships false gods, or who is not faithful in marriage, or men who act like women, or people who do sex sins with their own sex, will have no place in the holy nation of God.
NLT Don’t you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don’t fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality,
NMB Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived. For neither fornicators, nor worshippers of images, nor whoremongers, nor effeminates, nor abusers of themselves with the male sex,
NRSV Do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! Fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, sodomites,
NRSVA Do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! Fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, sodomites,
NRSVACE Do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! Fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, sodomites,
NRSVCE Do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! Fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, sodomites,
NTE Don’t you know that the unjust will not inherit God’s kingdom? Don’t be deceived! Neither immoral people, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor practising homosexuals of whichever sort,
OJB Or do you not have da’as that the resha’im (unrighteous ones) will not inherit the Malchut Hashem? Do not be deceived! Neither zannayim (fornicators) nor ovdei elilim (idolaters) nor mena’afim (adulterers) nor effeminate call boys nor homosexuals [IYOV 13:9; VAYIKRA 18:20; DEVARIM 22:22; VAYIKRA 18:22]
TPT Surely you must know that people who practice evil cannot possess God’s kingdom realm. Stop being deceived! People who continue to engage in sexual immorality, idolatry, adultery, sexual perversion, homosexuality,
RGT Do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor catamites, nor homosexuals,
RSV Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor sexual perverts,
RSVCE Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,
TLV Or don’t you know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Don’t be deceived! The sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, those who practice homosexuality,
VOICE Do you need reminding that the unjust have no share in the blessings of the kingdom of God? Do not be misled. A lot of people stand to inherit nothing of God’s coming kingdom, including those whose lives are defined by sexual immorality, idolatry, adultery, sexual deviancy, theft, greed, drunkenness, slander, and swindling.
WEB Or don’t you know that the unrighteous will not inherit God’s Kingdom? Don’t be deceived. Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor male prostitutes, nor homosexuals,
WE Do you not know that bad people will have no part in the kingdom where God rules? Do not be fooled. There are some people who will not have part in that place. They are those who commit adultery of any kind, those who have idols, or steal, or are always wanting more, or talk wrong things about people, or drink plenty of strong drink, or take things by force, or curse.
WYC Whether ye know not, that wicked men shall not wield the kingdom of God? Do not ye err; neither lechers, neither men that serve maumets [neither men serving to idols], neither adulterers, neither lechers against kind, neither they that do lechery with men,
YLT have ye not known that the unrighteous the reign of God shall not inherit? be not led astray; neither whoremongers, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor sodomites,

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Dec 2, 2019 14:41:45   #
kemmer
 
padremike wrote:
Trash talk trying to justify your behavior. It doesn't work, it's very transparent. However, you say St. Paul had nothing to say about homosexuality? Pick a translation......1 Cor 6:9

KJ21 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God? Be not deceived: Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor the effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
ASV Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men,
AMP Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit or have any share in the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate [by perversion], nor those who participate in homosexuality,
AMPC Do you not know that the unrighteous and the wrongdoers will not inherit or have any share in the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived (misled): neither the impure and immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor those who participate in homosexuality,
BRG Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
CSB Don’t you know that the unrighteous will not inherit God’s kingdom? Do not be deceived: No sexually immoral people, idolaters, adulterers, or males who have sex with males,
CEB Don’t you know that people who are unjust won’t inherit God’s kingdom? Don’t be deceived. Those who are sexually immoral, those who worship false gods, adulterers, both participants in same-sex intercourse,
CJB Don’t you know that unrighteous people will have no share in the Kingdom of God? Don’t delude yourselves — people who engage in sex before marriage, who worship idols, who engage in sex after marriage with someone other than their spouse, who engage in active or passive homosexuality,
CEV Don’t you know that evil people won’t have a share in the blessings of God’s kingdom? Don’t fool yourselves! No one who is immoral or worships idols or is unfaithful in marriage or is a pervert or behaves like a homosexual
DARBY Do ye not know that unrighteous [persons] shall not inherit [the] kingdom of God? Do not err: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor those who make women of themselves, nor who abuse themselves with men,
DLNT Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit God’s kingdom? Do not be deceived. Neither sexually-immoral ones, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homo-erotic-partners, nor homosexuals,
DRA Know you not that the unjust shall not possess the kingdom of God? Do not err: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers,
ERV Surely you know that people who do wrong will not get to enjoy God’s kingdom. Don’t be fooled. These are the people who will not get to enjoy his kingdom: those who sin sexually, those who worship idols, those who commit adultery, men who let other men use them for sex or who have sex with other men, those who steal, those who are greedy, those who drink too much, those who abuse others with insults, and those who cheat.
EHV Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor males who have sex with males,
ESV Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,
ESVUK Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practise homosexuality,
EXB ·Surely [L Don’t…?] you know that the ·people who do wrong [unrighteous; wicked; unjust] will not inherit God’s kingdom. Do not be ·fooled [deceived]. Those who sin sexually, worship idols, take part in adultery, those who are ·male prostitutes [or passive homosexual partners], or ·men who have sexual relations with other men [or active homosexual partners], those who steal, are greedy, get drunk, ·lie about others [slander others; use abusive language], or ·rob [swindle]—these people will not inherit God’s kingdom.
GNV Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor wantons, nor buggerers,
GW Don’t you know that wicked people won’t inherit God’s kingdom? Stop deceiving yourselves! People who continue to commit sexual sins, who worship false gods, those who commit adultery, homosexuals,
GNT Surely you know that the wicked will not possess God's Kingdom. Do not fool yourselves; people who are immoral or who worship idols or are adulterers or homosexual perverts
HCSB Don’t you know that the unrighteous will not inherit God’s kingdom? Do not be deceived: No sexually immoral people, idolaters, adulterers, or anyone practicing homosexuality,
ICB Surely you know that the people who do wrong will not receive God’s kingdom. Do not be fooled. These people will not receive God’s kingdom: those who are sexually immoral, or worship idols, or take part in adultery, or men who have physical relations with other men, or steal, or are selfish, or get drunk, or lie about others, or cheat.
ISV You know that wicked people will not inherit the kingdom of God, don’t you? Stop deceiving yourselves! Sexually immoral people, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, homosexuals,
PHILLIPS Have you forgotten that the kingdom of God will never belong to the wicked? Don’t be under any illusion—neither the impure, the idolater or the adulterer; neither the effeminate, the pervert or the thief; neither the swindler, the drunkard, the foul-mouthed or the rapacious shall have any share in the kingdom of God. And such men, remember, were some of you! But you have cleansed yourselves from all that, you have been made whole in spirit, you have been justified before God in the name of the Lord Jesus and in his very Spirit.
JUB ¶ Know ye not that the unjust shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not err: neither fornicators nor idolaters nor adulterers nor effeminate nor homosexuals
KJV Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
AKJV Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
LEB Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! Neither sexually immoral people, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor passive homosexual partners, nor dominant homosexual partners,
TLB Don’t you know that those doing such things have no share in the Kingdom of God? Don’t fool yourselves. Those who live immoral lives, who are idol worshipers, adulterers or homosexuals—will have no share in his Kingdom. Neither will thieves or greedy people, drunkards, slanderers, or robbers.
MSG Don’t you realize that this is not the way to live? Unjust people who don’t care about God will not be joining in his kingdom. Those who use and abuse each other, use and abuse sex, use and abuse the earth and everything in it, don’t qualify as citizens in God’s kingdom. A number of you know from experience what I’m talking about, for not so long ago you were on that list. Since then, you’ve been cleaned up and given a fresh start by Jesus, our Master, our Messiah, and by our God present in us, the Spirit.
MEV Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor male prostitutes, nor homosexuals,
MOUNCE Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor male prostitutes, nor homosexuals,
NOG Don’t you know that wicked people won’t inherit the kingdom of God? Stop deceiving yourselves! People who continue to commit sexual sins, who worship false gods, those who commit adultery, homosexuals,
NABRE Do you not know that the unjust will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators nor idolaters nor adulterers nor boy prostitutes nor sodomites
NASB Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,
NCV -
NET Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! The sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, passive homosexual partners, practicing homosexuals,
NIRV Don’t you know that people who do wrong will not receive God’s kingdom? Don’t be fooled. Those who commit sexual sins will not receive the kingdom. Neither will those who worship statues of gods or commit adultery. Neither will men who sleep with other men.
NIV Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men
NIVUK Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men
NKJV Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites,
NLV Do you not know that sinful men will have no place in the holy nation of God? Do not be fooled. A person who does sex sins, or who worships false gods, or who is not faithful in marriage, or men who act like women, or people who do sex sins with their own sex, will have no place in the holy nation of God.
NLT Don’t you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don’t fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality,
NMB Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived. For neither fornicators, nor worshippers of images, nor whoremongers, nor effeminates, nor abusers of themselves with the male sex,
NRSV Do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! Fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, sodomites,
NRSVA Do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! Fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, sodomites,
NRSVACE Do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! Fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, sodomites,
NRSVCE Do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! Fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, sodomites,
NTE Don’t you know that the unjust will not inherit God’s kingdom? Don’t be deceived! Neither immoral people, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor practising homosexuals of whichever sort,
OJB Or do you not have da’as that the resha’im (unrighteous ones) will not inherit the Malchut Hashem? Do not be deceived! Neither zannayim (fornicators) nor ovdei elilim (idolaters) nor mena’afim (adulterers) nor effeminate call boys nor homosexuals [IYOV 13:9; VAYIKRA 18:20; DEVARIM 22:22; VAYIKRA 18:22]
TPT Surely you must know that people who practice evil cannot possess God’s kingdom realm. Stop being deceived! People who continue to engage in sexual immorality, idolatry, adultery, sexual perversion, homosexuality,
RGT Do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor catamites, nor homosexuals,
RSV Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor sexual perverts,
RSVCE Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,
TLV Or don’t you know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Don’t be deceived! The sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, those who practice homosexuality,
VOICE Do you need reminding that the unjust have no share in the blessings of the kingdom of God? Do not be misled. A lot of people stand to inherit nothing of God’s coming kingdom, including those whose lives are defined by sexual immorality, idolatry, adultery, sexual deviancy, theft, greed, drunkenness, slander, and swindling.
WEB Or don’t you know that the unrighteous will not inherit God’s Kingdom? Don’t be deceived. Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor male prostitutes, nor homosexuals,
WE Do you not know that bad people will have no part in the kingdom where God rules? Do not be fooled. There are some people who will not have part in that place. They are those who commit adultery of any kind, those who have idols, or steal, or are always wanting more, or talk wrong things about people, or drink plenty of strong drink, or take things by force, or curse.
WYC Whether ye know not, that wicked men shall not wield the kingdom of God? Do not ye err; neither lechers, neither men that serve maumets [neither men serving to idols], neither adulterers, neither lechers against kind, neither they that do lechery with men,
YLT have ye not known that the unrighteous the reign of God shall not inherit? be not led astray; neither whoremongers, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor sodomites,
Trash talk trying to justify your behavior. It do... (show quote)

Neither homosexuality, homosexuals, nor effeminates are mentioned in your cut ‘n’ pastes. That’s just your dirty-minded editorializing. Give it a rest. If any of your sources mentioned liars, you’d best take notice.

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Dec 2, 2019 15:43:23   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
kemmer wrote:
Neither homosexuality, homosexuals, nor effeminates are mentioned in your cut ‘n’ pastes. That’s just your dirty-minded editorializing. Give it a rest. If any of your sources mentioned liars, you’d best take notice.
In the post above that you didn't read, the word "homosexual" appears 30 times, the word "effeminate" at least a dozen times, and the references to sodomy and men having sex with men are numerous.

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Dec 2, 2019 18:26:01   #
kemmer
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
In the post above that you didn't read, the word "homosexual" appears 30 times, the word "effeminate" at least a dozen times, and the references to sodomy and men having sex with men are numerous.

Oh please keep up. The alleged “padre” inserted those word himself.

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