kemmer wrote:
For cripe’s sake, if you don’t know what you’re posting, maybe you should just not post.
Yesterday you said, “militant homosexuals convinced morally bankrupt and inept individuals to accept my coming out”.
Those “morally bankrupt” individuals included my parents and all my colleagues and friends.
I added, ‘Your idea of God is fatally flawed. God is fine with who I am.
I believe what you're quoting was from a completely different thread. OK, I'm with you now so I will be more specific. You can interpret what I wrote any way you wish but I was not directing my comment at you or your family but the successful militant objectives of homosexuals and those simple minded, morally bankrupt, inept, and let's add spiritually constipated jerks who bought into it.
Like all temptations, passions and sins, including those deeply, and oftentimes seemingly indelibly embedded in our fallen human nature must be acknowledged. Homosexual orientation can be cured and homosexual actions can cease. With God all things are possible. When homosexual Christians are willing to struggle, and when they receive patient, compassionate and authentically loving assistance from their families and friends — each of whom is struggling with his or her own temptations and sins; for no one is without this struggle in one form or another, and no one is without sin but God — the Lord guarantees victory in ways known to Himself. The victory, however, belongs only to the courageous souls who acknowledge their condition, face their resentments, express their angers, confess their sins, forgive their offenders (who always include their parents and members of their households and friends), and reach out for help with the genuine desire to be healed. Jesus himself promises that the saintly heroes who "persevere to the end" along this "hard way which leads to life" will surely "be saved." (Matt. 7:13; 24:13… "the Lord guarantees victory in ways known to Himself"
Furthermore, The sexual character of human persons has a positive role to play in human spirituality. Like all things human, sexuality must be sanctioned by God and inspired with the Holy Spirit and used for the purposes God has intended. And like all things human, through its misuse and abuse, sexuality can be perverted and corrupted, becoming an instrument of sin rather than the means for glorifying God and fulfilling oneself as made in His image, and according to His likeness.
I acknowledge that indeed your family, friends etc, may not have been responsible for helping you reject homosexuality. Perhaps they tried and finally gave up. If they proudly announced their son is a homosexual they did you no favor. it still remained your free will choice! Even your Episcopal church accepts you as you are with the caveat that God approves of your homosexuality and you don't need to change. It is a damnable lie but it serves your purpose and your lack of courage very well.
Might I suggest that your own idea and understanding of God is fatally flawed; twisted conveniently to justify your own defective conscience. It's always a choice! Any questions?