straightUp Loc: California

Before 1965, your sister-in-law, being from Slavic Eastern Europe would have had a better chance because she could have cut in line in front of the "inferior" Latinos but she would still have to wait behind the "more superior" Nordics like myself and my family. In other words, the only whites that were disadvantaged then were those who weren't "white" enough.

But this is 2019 and what your sister-in-law is dealing now is straight numbers. So, while I do see the point you are making, it really doesn't have anything to do with her being white. It has more to do with her going through legal channels and being denied because the legal channels have quotas.

Now, I realize it must be frustrating to be held up like that while watching reports of other immigrants getting in through illegal channels but those reports are misleading. Those immigrants are NOT getting the legitimacy that your sister-in-law is applying for... Instead, they have to hide from the law, which often means they cannot be protected by the law either. They have to settle for demeaning jobs that pay under the table and contrary to right-wing narratives, they can NOT apply for benefits either. I'm sure these are not the things your sister-in-law is looking for.

If you want to come to this country and live in the open, enjoying all the protections and benefits, you HAVE to go through legal channels regardless of your ethnic background. But again, contrary to right-wing narratives, the Trump administration *IS* tightening the screws on legal immigration. I can't think of any valid reason for doing that but with the vast majority of legal applications coming from non-white people in what Trump calls POS countries, it's hard not to assume that he is doing this to block the migration of non-white people to the U.S. even if it means a few white people like your sister-in-law get caught in the net.

If Republicans can reintroduce racist language into the law, your sister-in-law might have a way to legally separate herself from that crowd, but they would have to get the PC Democrats to agree and well, you know that ain't gonna happen.

Cuda2020

Curious what made your Dad want to leave his home at that time? It would seem his area of expertise would be highly valued there also? Do you and your family still visit and also now have dual citizenship? Just curious.

My family seems to be in the process of doing a full circle by generations. My grandfather came from Canada, his son,(my dad) would have been able to acquire dual citizenship, but it doesn't extend to the grandchildren and I really wish it did, I appreciate options. Now, my daughter happens to have met a Canadian and married him and is now waiting for citizenship, which is a five-year wait. Citizenship does not automatically happen through marriage but if she has a child it will have citizenship.

It appears the racists still have a hold on our country and still trying to manipulate the flow. I find our concerns keep missing the mark. If the country wants to appeal to higher educated qualified people we need to up our game for wanting to live here, right now I'm not seeing the big appeal for people to come and raise their family here. All we're getting are the people running from poor and oppressed countries,
where at bare minimum they don't live under a dictator and their life can have some improvement. That's if they're not shot or arrested for some reason and incarcerated, lol. Welcome to the USA.

Instead of ..., we'll leave the light on for ya, it's we'll turn it off so you can trip over the front steps. Welcome to Trump USA.

straightUp Loc: California

Yes, his area of expertise was indeed highly valued at home. But he was lured by the adventure of living in America for a few years (where everyone is rich). My parents had every intention of returning home but then they found out why they thought everyone in America is rich - because America is a debt trap where people can pretend to be rich as long as they pay it all back plus interest. That's actually a new concept for many immigrants who fall into the trap. I know a number of immigrants from Europe who say they got stuck here because of their debt. In short, my father stayed her for the bigger paychecks so he can pay off the bigger debts.

My younger brother was born here - he has dual citizenship. I wasn't so I had to wait until I was 18, then pass tests, swear my allegiance and pay money to naturalize.


I'm sure those 5 years will go fast. Does your daughter live in Canada? I do wish I had dual-citizenship, but I take comfort in knowing that despite the U.S. government forcing me to give up my British nationality according to U.S. law, the UK still recognizes me as British ("once British - always British") and there really isn't anything the U.S. can do about that. I've been here since I was 3, so it really doesn't matter much to me but I do know that the UK has a better record of standing by their citizens when they get into trouble overseas. So I've been thinking about getting a UK passport.


A few things have changed since my immigration... Basically, conditions have improved in a lot of countries around the world while conditions have declined here. So, I agree and someone ought to tell Trump that the reason why we don't get as many people from Norway, is because Norway is in many ways more attractive than the U.S. The same can be said for most of the Western European nations, which is one reason why they have a bigger immigration problem than we do.

This is also why anytime you hear a "patriot" suggesting our exceptional greatness with national comparisons it's always with countries emerging from the third world.

I would still fight for this country because it's where I've lived all my life and it's where I raised a family. But I don't subscribe to any of that USA #1 chauvinism because it's BS. Yeah, it's better here than it is some third world countries, I'll just leave it there.


Well, we both know what that's all about and for that matter we are seeing this happen in Europe too... Brexit is 99% about keeping immigrants out. I expect this will get worse as the rise in climate change and global tensions increase.

All the more reason why we could really use a president with the strength and courage to lead the world, instead of a weak, self-obsessed turd who only seems capable of bickering with the world.

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

Who said Trump would never lie? He's a politician, hence lies. He and most support legal immigration. To me forget immigration through Mexico and our southern border, go to Ellis Island like my grandfathers did. Yes, 20% were turned back because they were too sickly it isn't America's job to look after everyone's health. The issue of the phony "families" 70% when I was at the border 30% now is easy to solve, just do DNA tests. Did you ever look up Israel's wall to see what Trump has in mind?

Actually, yes the wait time is more, there are more invaders to apprehend. The paperwork is only half the battle. If they did things by the book no problem, but no, so...

I'll leave you with this thought (I don't think of you as one of the intractable idiots). How many times did democrats have an opportunity to make a deal for DACA recipients? They NEVER came to the table.

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

I read you wrong at first, of course that is what we want. I'll give you a couple of examples: One grandfather was from Poland. He barely spoke English, but he learned quickly. Now the question how would he feed his family came up. Borden's milk was looking for drivers to deliver their milk. At the time a driver drove a horse and buggy. He put in long hours. Went to sleep at 5 pm woke up at 5 AM a tough life but he made it work. My other grandfather was from Russia, the same language barrier but he also learned quickly. Job? He hand-delivered newspapers to offices and did many menial jobs, but he could hold his head up and say I American citizen. I told you his English wasn't that good. Each of his sons was at least a Sergeant and his son made it to Lieutenant.

Sorry to say they do not. They refuse to learn English, even the brighter ones are usually found in menial jobs such as mechanic, farmer, etc. I do give the invaders this they have a strong sense of family and send money back to their home country whenever they can.

straightUp Loc: California

What sets Trump apart is that he sucks at lying so most people don't fall for it and he does it ALL the time. He can't stand at a podium without launching a blatant lie that leaves billions of people with slack jaws.


OK, fine... then take away all those immigration laws that didn't exist when your grandfathers came over. If you're going back to 19th century when Ellis Island was in full swing, there was no such thing as a legal channel because there were no laws against immigration. Immigrants stepped off the boat and just started looking for jobs. Most of them never became citizens but had children that were automatic citizens.

That whole "do what my grandparents did" is just utter ignorance.


That 20% was more likely the people who were lucky enough to find a way back after they found out what a slave machine the US was. Most of the immigrants only had one-way tickets and no, the U.S. was not paying for their return fare.


The issue of phony families is the result of the racist immigration policies. The idea was that if we only let in people who are related to American citizens, which was easier then to assume would be white, non-whites would have less chance of getting in. But over the years, the whiteness of America has faded and now the policy is having an opposite effect. If the racists stayed out of it in the first place, there would be no phony families.


Since DACA was signed, the Democrats have not had control of Congress and the Republicans have always been been able to prevent any movement on the issue. Don't chop off someone's legs and then blame him for not being able to get up.

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

Naturally the Dems don't want to cut the invasion, they are part of it. I have a picture of Nancy and Beto (this is old) taking kickbacks from Nieto. Do you think it changed because a new regime is in power? Soros is the same guy and he's behind all of it. Climate change is just a bauble to distract, that's from the Clinton playbook. You're right about power and control only it isn't going to the democraps the poor saps, the whole party is being used.

Seth

When Obama saw that Trump had won the election, rather than use part of his last couple of months in office to address DACA he left the so-called "dreamers" hanging just to leave the "hot potato" in President Trump's hands.

Trump has every right to send 'em all back.

straightUp Loc: California

That's what parties are there for Lieutenant. They are designed to be used by the citizens, which at some point in our history started to include corporations (I'm sure Thomas Jefferson has been turning in his grave ever since). The corporations are themselves designed to be used by investors and Soros is an investor. So is Trump for that matter. So, I'm confused as to why you think a link between an investor (or anyone in his family) and a government office is anything but normal.

Cuda2020

I agree with our exceptionalism is past tense, and I'm fine with that, I find it pompous and arrogant and imagine it is a turn off for other people from other countries. I mean who wants to hear a blow hard. Did you happen to hear Trump talking about his gorgeous chest? LOL


‘His perfect D cups’: Internet collectively gags at Trump bragging about his ‘gorgeous chest’

Published 19 hours ago on November 26, 2019

http://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/his-perfect-d-cups-internet-collectively-gags-at-trump-bragging-about-his-gorgeous-chest/

President Donald Trump’s Florida rally on Tuesday had a number of bizarre moments, but one was the president bragging about his “gorgeous chest.”

After the president led a room full of conservative Christian voters chanting “bullsh*t” at the top of their lungs, he brought up the recent trip to Walter Reed for “tests.” He noted that there was a conspiracy theory going around that he had a heart attack, which he debunked by explaining he has a “gorgeous chest.”

His quote: "Why would I wear a tie if the first thing they're going to do is say "sir, take off your shirt and show us your gorgeous chest. Show us. We've never seen a chest like it."


It’s unknown if Alec Baldwin will be removing his shirt on “Saturday Night Live” this week, but it’s entirely possible.

...Now that I gotta see for a good chuckle. LOL We can't make this stuff up

It was enough to send the internet into hysterics:

Cuda2020

Does anyone else see the resemblance between Soros and ET?

JimMe

No... I see nothing that has me believe Soros and ET are remotely similar... No Thing...

Dwight Logan

I would rather belive a lie than the dems fake news "TRUTH."

Seth

Yup -- everything today's Democrats believe is their own separate propaganda -based reality.

Cuda2020

Lighten up a little bit, you guys have as much sense of humor as a constipated nun.