Jefferson on Trump.
zillaorange wrote:
You'd rather teach them about Stalin, & how great communism is !!!
No, I'd rather the media tell the truth so I could make up my own mind...
PeterS wrote:
No, I'd rather the media tell the truth so I could make up my own mind...
So would we all. Unfortunately those days appear to be over, if they ever existed
Seth wrote:
The only hole in any one of your analogies is that America and the American political system thrived for over two centuries, whereas that which you advocate and depict as "normal" only invaded our shores a few short decades ago, the total antithesis of our form of government, and rather than confront the American people with its true goals, it chooses to devour our nation from within like a cancer, stealth agenda by stealth agenda.
Because statesmen have largely been supplanted by career politicians, the very ones who should be more definitive when it comes to dealing with the left wing takeover of the Democratic Party pussyfoot around it -- any one of our founders, confronted by the same situation, would have called it what it is: an enemy invasion from within.
The only hole in any one of your analogies is that... (
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1) I depicted nothing as "normal."
2) Nothing in your post is relevant to what I wrote. Do you have a problem staying on topic?
3) The "take over" of the Democratic party by the left is no more prevalent than the take over of the Republican party by the right. The left-wing ideology that you are so terrified of is the same ideology that founded this country while you conservatives were cowering with the redcoats trying desperately, as you are now, to cling to the status quo.
debeda wrote:
So would we all. Unfortunately those days appear to be over, if they ever existed
You would not! You people are married to Fox because they are the only ones who will tell you what you want to hear. You don't want to hear the truth. You want to hear what reinforces what you believe and nothing more!
PeterS wrote:
No, I'd rather the media tell the truth so I could make up my own mind...
the press/ media isn't giving ANY OF US ,the TRUTH ! You have to dig it out !
PeterS wrote:
1) I depicted nothing as "normal."
2) Nothing in your post is relevant to what I wrote. Do you have a problem staying on topic?
3) The "take over" of the Democratic party by the left is no more prevalent than the take over of the Republican party by the right. The left-wing ideology that you are so terrified of is the same ideology that founded this country while you conservatives were cowering with the redcoats trying desperately, as you are now, to cling to the status quo.
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Lolololhahahaha
Best jokes I've heard all week
PeterS wrote:
You would not! You people are married to Fox because they are the only ones who will tell you what you want to hear. You don't want to hear the truth. You want to hear what reinforces what you believe and nothing more!
Peter, you know absolutely nothing about me. I havent watched TV in nearly 20 years
debeda wrote:
I agree. There was talk of things to be done. Betsy devoss appears to be a dud tho
We haven't heard much from her in quite some time.
alabuck wrote:
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Those words describe the right-wing and the alt right-wing outlets to a tee. Fox News, Levin, Hannity, Limbaugh, and those of similar strips, consciously and constantly fill their viewer’s heads with more lies, innuendo, twisted facts, and debunked conspiracy theories, ad nausium. That you have the audacity to claim anything Levin writes has even a smidgen of truth to it is a lie, itself.
All you’re trying to do is to declare your favorite “propaganda-output-machine” writes the truth, while all other news outlets (I.e. MSM) write lies. Fox and the rest of the wrong-wing news outlets are outnumbered considerably. Fox may have a large number of viewers, who happen to share the political views that Fox and the rest of the alt-right-wing media outlets expounds, when compared to a single other outletk. But when compared to the other outlets (cable news plus the network news outlets, those who don’t have a self-announced political leaning like Fox does, combined, the number of Fox viewers is but a small percentage of the total; even in spite of what Trumpet claims.
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Sorry to burst your bubble, bubba, but the progressive media propaganda machine has spoon fed you like a baby in a high chair.
Mark Levin is one of the finest historians and constitutional scholars on the planet. His research for the books he writes is exhaustive. In writing Unfreedom of the Press, he studied the history of the press in America all the way back to our founding and the book is filled with references to source materials and footnotes on every aspect of the news, the printing and distribution, including references to articles published in the American press since Thomas Paine's famous pamphlets. The references to source materials fill pages at the back of the book.
Moreover, Mark Levin served as Chief of Staff for Attorney General Ed Meese throughout the eight years of the Reagan administration. Levin is also a long time friend of Larry Arnn, president of Hillsdale College. Hillsdale is a private college that receives no federal money and all students are required to take core courses on the Constitution of the United States. Hillsdale College offers free of charge an online course on
Constitution 101. You should take advantage of that, you might actually learn something.
Ranger7374
Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
alabuck wrote:
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Those words describe the right-wing and the alt right-wing outlets to a tee. Fox News, Levin, Hannity, Limbaugh, and those of similar strips, consciously and constantly fill their viewer’s heads with more lies, innuendo, twisted facts, and debunked conspiracy theories, ad nausium. That you have the audacity to claim anything Levin writes has even a smidgen of truth to it is a lie, itself.
All you’re trying to do is to declare your favorite “propaganda-output-machine” writes the truth, while all other news outlets (I.e. MSM) write lies. Fox and the rest of the wrong-wing news outlets are outnumbered considerably. Fox may have a large number of viewers, who happen to share the political views that Fox and the rest of the alt-right-wing media outlets expounds, when compared to a single other outletk. But when compared to the other outlets (cable news plus the network news outlets, those who don’t have a self-announced political leaning like Fox does, combined, the number of Fox viewers is but a small percentage of the total; even in spite of what Trumpet claims.
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You didn't read the book did you? A bit of prejudice? there hmmm. Pity
Ranger7374
Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
PeterS wrote:
So is Levin's argument is that news organizations should be open about their bias, not objective regardless of bias??? Neither you nor Mr. Levin seems to understand that you can be objective and have a bias, do you? Being transparent with your bias only means that the news you are reporting can't be trusted to be true.
That fits with the likes of Fox News because they pander to only one ideology--an ideology that doesn't want the truth, only to be told what they want to hear, but that doesn't fit with people who want to think for themselves and need the real truth in order to do so.
That's the "freedom" Levin is talking about is the freedom for people like him to spew propaganda to people like you. Most people don't want news that is pure propaganda though Blade. Most people want news that tells them the truth, not simply 'truth' that they want to hear.
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Wow Pete, you need to stop swimming in the pool of George Soros and quit drinking that Carol Marx Communist Manifesto.
Let's look further back, I think it was the Greek philosopher who said, for truth and justice to be found on anything there must be a minimum of three people. One supporting one side. One supporting the other side and one in the middle.
Do you know why? So both sides can check each other with in the facts and use reason. Conservatives are needed in a free society as much as Liberals. Both sides need to be heard in an orderly fashion such that the facts can be weighed and found wanting or not wanting.
This is confirmed by the proverb, "When in fire Gold is tested"
Shutting up the Conservative voice is just as bad as shutting up the Liberal voice. Neither side should be silenced for if they are you are socialist, you are Communist, you are a dictatorship.
The left is trying to silence the right, like at one time in the past the right tried to do the same with the left. Well the outcome will be the same as it was in the past, they will fail.
The Constitution provides a forum to accomplish the finding of truth through fact and reason. Donald Trump Jr says that fact, truth, and reason are like kryptonite to the left. Well Pete, through reason you are proving him correct and so are your colleagues on the left.
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