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Nov 8, 2019 16:25:59   #
zillaorange
 
PeterS wrote:
You mean Obama attacks ONE news organization and it's the same as Trump attacking EVERY news organization that isn't Fox? Yeah, like that...


That's because every other msm is attacking him !

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Nov 8, 2019 16:59:14   #
Seth
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
Once more Seth, you hit the nail right on the head. In fact, The American Civil Liberties Union was founded by communists to protect them from prosecution under the Palmer Raids of Woodrow Wilson using The Constitution. ACLU, then as now, was intent on imposing communism on America.


They don't call them the American Communist Liberties Union for nothing.

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Nov 8, 2019 18:46:20   #
ExperienceCounts
 
biker1950 wrote:
The things some are stating here is why I have not turned the news on my tv for over 3 years. I got fed up with the one-sided news. The talking heads of today do not report the news. They give their opinions which is not reporting the news.


Newspaper articles are supposed to report the news: who, what, when, where, why, and how.
I quit watching commentators years ago. I am intelligent enough to know when what someone actually says is different than what a commentator tells me someone says.

A recent example is the "parody" which was outright lies read to congress as factual. Until the narrative was called out with the transcript, we were getting a commentator testifying something as fact.

Too many articles have a demonstrated bias, I hunt the truth which is hidden somewhere in the rhetoric.

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Nov 8, 2019 19:05:23   #
zillaorange
 
ExperienceCounts wrote:
Newspaper articles are supposed to report the news: who, what, when, where, why, and how.
I quit watching commentators years ago. I am intelligent enough to know when what someone actually says is different than what a commentator tells me someone says.

A recent example is the "parody" which was outright lies read to congress as factual. Until the narrative was called out with the transcript, we were getting a commentator testifying something as fact.

Too many articles have a demonstrated bias, I hunt the truth which is hidden somewhere in the rhetoric.
Newspaper articles are supposed to report the news... (show quote)


Hello Experience, I don't think we've met. You live in a world as it should be, not the real 1. You don't get the truth from any media/press pushers out there. You have to dig. OPP is a great provider of sources you usually don't get. Even then you have to trudge through the mud to get that 1 kernel that leads you to material the ' establishment ' doesn't want you to know. Keep digging, the truth is out there. You still have an adventure !!!

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Nov 8, 2019 19:16:55   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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During the times of Thomas Jefferson, there was the press that states facts, honesty, with professional and moral integrity.

Currently, we cannot call a press a press, because they do not report facts, but lies, deceptions, fabrications to mislead the people. It's not Free Press at this time, but free LIES,to meet their agenda.

The present press is one sided. It is not a press to report factual events to the people. It is an instrument, or weapon of the socialist-democrats to aid and abet their lies and deceptions for political destruction of president Trump and the republican party.


================= br i b During the times of Tho... (show quote)


The current press is not a press only because the current inmate says it isn't, to post / say/ think otherwise is fascist at best. Spin it any way you want the bottle stops at the same point, just don't presume to tell trumpinoccio. For obvious reasons.

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Nov 8, 2019 19:29:52   #
zillaorange
 
Seems Peters disappears whenever the truth is put in front of him/ her ?

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Nov 8, 2019 20:06:36   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
zillaorange wrote:
Seems Peters disappears whenever the truth is put in front of him/ her ?


in Petes defense,it depends on what version or flavor of Truth is actually being served up?
absolute Truth or Facts have never done well on opp. take it or leave it. just like people's posts.
if it ain't tight white "Right" it can't be true sayeth trump troopers on opp.😳

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Nov 8, 2019 20:15:31   #
Seth
 
tactful wrote:
in Petes defense,it depends on what version or flavor of Truth is actually being served up?
absolute Truth or Facts have never done well on opp. take it or leave it. just like people's posts.
if it ain't tight white "Right" it can't be true sayeth trump troopers on opp.😳


Actually, the only people who are color conscious around here are the ones who keep bringing up "white," "racism," etc.

The fact that you leftists are the ones who are constantly preoccupied with race tells us who the real racists are, those being your ilk.

But... when the entire scope of your political beliefs is comprised of endless unmitigated hypocrisy, I suppose that's all you have to offer.

Must be a pretty miserable existence...

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Nov 8, 2019 20:31:17   #
zillaorange
 
tactful wrote:
in Petes defense,it depends on what version or flavor of Truth is actually being served up?
absolute Truth or Facts have never done well on opp. take it or leave it. just like people's posts.
if it ain't tight white "Right" it can't be true sayeth trump troopers on opp.😳



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Nov 8, 2019 20:41:37   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
PeterS wrote:
Yup, sounds like he knows him well...


The Mainstream Media is owned by 6 giant corporations, who are members of the Bilderberg Group of socialist billionaires. There is nothing "free" about this press.

Recall the Bilderberg Group arose out of I.G. Farben, Hitler's munitions manufacturer, with a separate plan if Hitler failed to take over the world. First, a takeover of the press, then the healthcare, then the annihilation of 3/4th the world population to create a "sustainable population" of just 2 billion survivors. This is all part of the United Nation's Agenda 21, backed by George Soros, who "loves" everybody.

Wake up, PeterS.

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Nov 8, 2019 20:50:23   #
ExperienceCounts
 
zillaorange wrote:
Hello Experience, I don't think we've met. You live in a world as it should be, not the real 1. You don't get the truth from any media/press pushers out there. You have to dig. OPP is a great provider of sources you usually don't get. Even then you have to trudge through the mud to get that 1 kernel that leads you to material the ' establishment ' doesn't want you to know. Keep digging, the truth is out there. You still have an adventure !!!


No, we haven't met. I'm an Independent voter with cognitive abilities. My conclusions may not coincide with yours.

"Too many articles have a demonstrated bias, I hunt the truth which is hidden somewhere in the rhetoric."

It is necessary to read articles in entirety and not just from one source. I do understand where our country is headed if the wide path being gleefully and sheepishly touted is not corrected. History has shown that path leads to the destruction of life in America as we know it. It is not a path that I wish to follow.

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Nov 8, 2019 21:12:56   #
Cuda2020
 
PeterS wrote:
Yup, sounds like he knows him well...


Yep, through the ages some things never change.

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Nov 8, 2019 21:21:29   #
zillaorange
 
ExperienceCounts wrote:
No, we haven't met. I'm an Independent voter with cognitive abilities. My conclusions may not coincide with yours.

"Too many articles have a demonstrated bias, I hunt the truth which is hidden somewhere in the rhetoric."

It is necessary to read articles in entirety and not just from one source. I do understand where our country is headed if the wide path being gleefully and sheepishly touted is not corrected. History has shown that path leads to the destruction of life in America as we know it. It is not a path that I wish to follow.
No, we haven't met. I'm an Independent voter with ... (show quote)


Sounds like we'll get along, HELLO !

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Nov 8, 2019 21:22:05   #
Cuda2020
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
Some history is in order, something with which PeterS has little familiarity. John Adams, an associate author of The Constitution, signed into law The Alien & Sedition Acts, one of which was used in the twentieth century.

Abraham Lincoln closed down hundreds of opposition newspapers. He ordered the arrests of Chief Supreme Court Justice Roger Taney and the mayor of Baltimore, and Clement Vallingdigham.

Woodrow Wilson allowed his AG to arrest anyone who spoke positively of Germans or Germany during WWI.

FDR ordered the broadcasting license of a small Catholic radio station that was critical of him.

Lois Lerner, under Barack H. Obama, withheld the tax exemptions of conservative & pro-lie organizations.

PeterS can point to NOTHING similar that Donald J. Trump has done.
Some history is in order, something with which Pet... (show quote)


Really, how about silencing the research from the EPA on new research and findings on Global warming.

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Nov 8, 2019 21:37:01   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Really, how about silencing the research from the EPA on new research and findings on Global warming.


Link please. I see plenty of left wing articles but no real proof.

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