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Sep 7, 2019 17:43:03   #
vernon
 
rumitoid wrote:
If he is indeed God, he will understand and look to comfort me.



If you don't obey you will get your just reward .

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Sep 7, 2019 17:51:40   #
vernon
 
Lonewolf wrote:
least we forget its republicans who are killing babies their in charge of corse there on a path to kill Americans with pre-existing health conditions by destroying the ACA.


Listen you, run your mouth about the republicans killing babies . Well don't forget its the demorats that are responsible for 60,000,000 killings of the innocent. But you are dam quick to call everyone a killer but your self and others like you.

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Sep 7, 2019 18:14:11   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Well I know of five people who had insurance who lost their coverage because of Obamacare and all of them died because of coverage and they all died before Trump,so screw you!





Lonewolf wrote:
I know many people who are alive because of it but don't worry trump has plans that are cheap low monthly premiums that when needed pay nothing but there cheap and make you feel good!

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Sep 7, 2019 20:28:52   #
Carlos
 
Thank God Obama said we could keep the doctors that we HAD!

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Sep 7, 2019 23:48:45   #
rumitoid
 
Rose42 wrote:
Whats curious is you have claimed to love Christ yet here you are mocking God yet again.


Maybe in your eyes, but I am trying to open those eyes to the stark truth that the Bible is not what you think it is. The word of God definitely, yet more to test and teach than to be quoted as truth. It is the SAT of spiritual maturity. When God disobeys his own commandments to us, we are not to take it as his mysterious (and sadistic ways) ways, he is challenging us to the Great Command of Love. Does genocide qualify, as with the Canaanites. What God do you worship? If he is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow than follow all his laws and use genocide to dispatch the Liberals.

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Sep 7, 2019 23:59:08   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
rumitoid wrote:
Maybe in your eyes, but I am trying to open those eyes to the stark truth that the Bible is not what you think it is. The word of God definitely, yet more to test and teach than to be quoted as truth. It is the SAT of spiritual maturity. When God disobeys his own commandments to us, we do not take it as his mysterious ways, he is challenging us to the Great Command of Love. Does genocide qualify, as with the Canaanites.


More than half of your quotes are faulty, and the rest are taken out of context. You use these quotes to excuse yourself from what you wanted your own daughter to do, not once but twice. You can not excuse yourself using cherrypicked words....however, G*d can forgive you if you repent now and stop trying to lead others to an eternal death.


For everyone else.....lookup his references and read the verses before and after.

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Sep 8, 2019 00:07:31   #
rumitoid
 
vernon wrote:
If you don't obey you will get your just reward .


Amen!

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Sep 8, 2019 00:10:26   #
rumitoid
 
vernon wrote:
Listen you, run your mouth about the republicans killing babies . Well don't forget its the demorats that are responsible for 60,000,000 killings of the innocent. But you are dam quick to call everyone a killer but your self and others like you.


The GOP controlled Congress for how may years? Did they repeal abortion? Why not hold them equally responsible?

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Sep 8, 2019 00:20:09   #
rumitoid
 
Pennylynn wrote:
More than half of your quotes are faulty, and the rest are taken out of context. You use these quotes to excuse yourself from what you wanted your own daughter to do, not once but twice. You can not excuse yourself using cherrypicked words....however, G*d can forgive you if you repent now and stop trying to lead others to an eternal death.


For everyone else.....lookup his references and read the verses before and after.


If I said "Thou shalt not murder," is that taken out of context or just plain, undeniable truth? Cherry-picked? No. So are the other quotes I used. You can do a Charlie Brown wishy-washy on that point but the truth will still be there.

You are so heartless. Bring up my daughter like that. That was a personal thing I said to you to ease the tension between us and now you broadcast it. No freaking shame.

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Sep 8, 2019 01:48:27   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
rumitoid wrote:
If I said "Thou shalt not murder," is that taken out of context or just plain, undeniable truth? Cherry-picked? No. So are the other quotes I used. You can do a Charlie Brown wishy-washy on that point but the truth will still be there.

You are so heartless. Bring up my daughter like that. That was a personal thing I said to you to ease the tension between us and now you broadcast it. No freaking shame.


In the Hebrew bible the word is ratsach….refers to intentional killing without cause. Hebrew law recognized accidental killing as not punishable. Specific cities were designated as "cities of refuge," so that an unintentional killer could flee to escape retribution. The Hebrew word for "kill" in this instance is not ratsach, but nakah, which can refer to either premeditated or unintentional killing, depending upon context. The punishment for murder was the death sentence. However, to be convicted, there needed to be at least two eyewitnesses. The Bible also prescribes that people have a right to defend themselves against attack and use deadly force if necessary.

Let us assume for the sake of argument that you are holy enough to judge G*d. The Bible is quite clear that G*d has killed people directly (the most prominent example being the flood) and indirectly (ordered peoples to be killed). If G*d ordered or participated in the killing of innocent people, then He would be guilty of murder. Let's look at two of the most prominent examples.

According to the Bible, G*d killed every human except Noah, his wife, his sons, and their wives in the flood. Were any of these people killed unjustly? No, the bible says specifically that all people (except Noah and his family) had become corrupted. Not only had all people become corrupted, but they were continually plotting evil! Is it possible that an entire culture can become corrupted? Yes, no doubt! Recent history proves the point rather well. When the Nazis took over Germany before WWII, opposition was crushed and removed. When they began their purging of the undesirables, virtually the entire society went along with the plan. If you examine the atrocities perpetrated by people within the last century, you find a huge number of murders. Joseph Stalin killed 20 million Soviet citizens between 1929 and 1939 because they were not politically correct. Mao Tse-tung killed 34 to 62 million Chinese during the Chinese civil war of the 1930s and 1940s. Pol Pot, the leader of the Marxist regime in Cambodia, Kampuchea, in the 1970's killed over 1.7 million of his own people. These do not include all the people killed in "legitimate" wars. Bottomline, no innocent people were killed in the flood.

What about when G*d ordered Joshua and his people to kill every man, woman and child in Canaan? What crime could be so great that entire populations of cities were designated for destruction? G*d told Moses that the nations that the Hebrew were replacing were wicked. The text tells us that they were burning their own sons and daughters in sacrifices to their gods. So we see that these people were not really innocent. For these reasons (and others), G*d ordered the destruction of the peoples whom the Israelites dispossessed.


People assume that children are innocent, even if their parents are doing bad things. The assumption is unfounded. For example, Palestinian Muslim children are officially taught in grammar school, and at home when they draw their first breath to hate their Jewish neighbors. They are so well indoctrinated that some of them give up their lives in suicide bombings as children. Corruption literally does breed corruption, which is why G*d did not want the Hebrews tainted by the other corrupt cultures of the Middle East.

G*d was asked if He would destroy the innocent along with the wicked. Prior to destroying Sodom and Gomorrah, Abraham asked G*d if He would destroy the righteous along with the wicked. G*d replied that He would spare the entire city for 50 righteous people. Abraham kept reducing the possible number of righteous people, asking G*d if He would destroy the entire city along with those number of righteous people. G*d's reply in each case was that He would not destroy the righteous along with the wicked. The lowest number Abraham asked about was ten righteous people, although the answer would likely be the same with as few as one righteous individual. How do we know this? G*d sent two angels to warn the four righteous people in Sodom to flee before He destroyed the city. It is quite convenient that such details are usually left out of atheistic sites complaining about the "evil" perpetrated by G*d. In fact, G*d saved certain people from being killed in cities such as Jericho.

The commandment "Thou shalt not kill" is not as general as the King James version would indicate. The commandment refers to premeditated, unjustified killing - murder. Although G*d ordered the extermination of entire cities, He did so in righteous judgment on a people whose corruption had led to extreme wickedness, including child sacrifice. Did G*d destroy the righteous along with the wicked? In an exchange with Abraham, G*d indicated that He would spare the wicked to save the righteous. He demonstrated this principle by saving righteous people from Sodom and Jericho prior to their destruction. The charge that G*d indiscriminately murdered people does not hold to critical evaluation of the biblical texts.

As for me being heartless, perhaps. But there are times that it is necessary to slap a person to get their attention. And laying the truth on an individual will often make that person think about what they are saying or doing. Your judgement of G*d is sinful and very wrong and worse, those who do not read or understand the bible could easily be led to sin and lose their soul.

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Sep 8, 2019 03:06:24   #
rumitoid
 
Pennylynn wrote:
In the Hebrew bible the word is ratsach….refers to intentional killing without cause. Hebrew law recognized accidental killing as not punishable. Specific cities were designated as "cities of refuge," so that an unintentional killer could flee to escape retribution. The Hebrew word for "kill" in this instance is not ratsach, but nakah, which can refer to either premeditated or unintentional killing, depending upon context. The punishment for murder was the death sentence. However, to be convicted, there needed to be at least two eyewitnesses. The Bible also prescribes that people have a right to defend themselves against attack and use deadly force if necessary.

Let us assume for the sake of argument that you are holy enough to judge G*d. The Bible is quite clear that G*d has killed people directly (the most prominent example being the flood) and indirectly (ordered peoples to be killed). If G*d ordered or participated in the killing of innocent people, then He would be guilty of murder. Let's look at two of the most prominent examples.

According to the Bible, G*d killed every human except Noah, his wife, his sons, and their wives in the flood. Were any of these people killed unjustly? No, the bible says specifically that all people (except Noah and his family) had become corrupted. Not only had all people become corrupted, but they were continually plotting evil! Is it possible that an entire culture can become corrupted? Yes, no doubt! Recent history proves the point rather well. When the Nazis took over Germany before WWII, opposition was crushed and removed. When they began their purging of the undesirables, virtually the entire society went along with the plan. If you examine the atrocities perpetrated by people within the last century, you find a huge number of murders. Joseph Stalin killed 20 million Soviet citizens between 1929 and 1939 because they were not politically correct. Mao Tse-tung killed 34 to 62 million Chinese during the Chinese civil war of the 1930s and 1940s. Pol Pot, the leader of the Marxist regime in Cambodia, Kampuchea, in the 1970's killed over 1.7 million of his own people. These do not include all the people killed in "legitimate" wars. Bottomline, no innocent people were killed in the flood.

What about when G*d ordered Joshua and his people to kill every man, woman and child in Canaan? What crime could be so great that entire populations of cities were designated for destruction? G*d told Moses that the nations that the Hebrew were replacing were wicked. The text tells us that they were burning their own sons and daughters in sacrifices to their gods. So we see that these people were not really innocent. For these reasons (and others), G*d ordered the destruction of the peoples whom the Israelites dispossessed.


People assume that children are innocent, even if their parents are doing bad things. The assumption is unfounded. For example, Palestinian Muslim children are officially taught in grammar school, and at home when they draw their first breath to hate their Jewish neighbors. They are so well indoctrinated that some of them give up their lives in suicide bombings as children. Corruption literally does breed corruption, which is why G*d did not want the Hebrews tainted by the other corrupt cultures of the Middle East.

G*d was asked if He would destroy the innocent along with the wicked. Prior to destroying Sodom and Gomorrah, Abraham asked G*d if He would destroy the righteous along with the wicked. G*d replied that He would spare the entire city for 50 righteous people. Abraham kept reducing the possible number of righteous people, asking G*d if He would destroy the entire city along with those number of righteous people. G*d's reply in each case was that He would not destroy the righteous along with the wicked. The lowest number Abraham asked about was ten righteous people, although the answer would likely be the same with as few as one righteous individual. How do we know this? G*d sent two angels to warn the four righteous people in Sodom to flee before He destroyed the city. It is quite convenient that such details are usually left out of atheistic sites complaining about the "evil" perpetrated by G*d. In fact, G*d saved certain people from being killed in cities such as Jericho.

The commandment "Thou shalt not kill" is not as general as the King James version would indicate. The commandment refers to premeditated, unjustified killing - murder. Although G*d ordered the extermination of entire cities, He did so in righteous judgment on a people whose corruption had led to extreme wickedness, including child sacrifice. Did G*d destroy the righteous along with the wicked? In an exchange with Abraham, G*d indicated that He would spare the wicked to save the righteous. He demonstrated this principle by saving righteous people from Sodom and Jericho prior to their destruction. The charge that G*d indiscriminately murdered people does not hold to critical evaluation of the biblical texts.

As for me being heartless, perhaps. But there are times that it is necessary to slap a person to get their attention. And laying the truth on an individual will often make that person think about what they are saying or doing. Your judgement of G*d is sinful and very wrong and worse, those who do not read or understand the bible could easily be led to sin and lose their soul.
In the Hebrew bible the word is ratsach….refers to... (show quote)


Very informative, ty.

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Sep 8, 2019 04:03:14   #
EmilyD
 
rumitoid wrote:
Maybe in your eyes, but I am trying to open those eyes to the stark truth that the Bible is not what you think it is. The word of God definitely, yet more to test and teach than to be quoted as truth. It is the SAT of spiritual maturity. When God disobeys his own commandments to us, we are not to take it as his mysterious (and sadistic ways) ways, he is challenging us to the Great Command of Love. Does genocide qualify, as with the Canaanites. What God do you worship? If he is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow than follow all his laws and use genocide to dispatch the Liberals.
Maybe in your eyes, but I am trying to open those ... (show quote)


God disobeys his own commandments????????

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Sep 8, 2019 06:32:11   #
Rose42
 
rumitoid wrote:
Maybe in your eyes, but I am trying to open those eyes to the stark truth that the Bible is not what you think it is. The word of God definitely, yet more to test and teach than to be quoted as truth. It is the SAT of spiritual maturity. When God disobeys his own commandments to us, we are not to take it as his mysterious (and sadistic ways) ways, he is challenging us to the Great Command of Love. Does genocide qualify, as with the Canaanites. What God do you worship? If he is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow than follow all his laws and use genocide to dispatch the Liberals.
Maybe in your eyes, but I am trying to open those ... (show quote)


The God I worship is the God you continue to mock - the God of the bible that you reject.

You badly need to repent. You are on the road to eternal damnation.

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Sep 9, 2019 01:51:47   #
Ricktloml
 
Pennylynn wrote:
In the Hebrew bible the word is ratsach….refers to intentional killing without cause. Hebrew law recognized accidental killing as not punishable. Specific cities were designated as "cities of refuge," so that an unintentional killer could flee to escape retribution. The Hebrew word for "kill" in this instance is not ratsach, but nakah, which can refer to either premeditated or unintentional killing, depending upon context. The punishment for murder was the death sentence. However, to be convicted, there needed to be at least two eyewitnesses. The Bible also prescribes that people have a right to defend themselves against attack and use deadly force if necessary.

Let us assume for the sake of argument that you are holy enough to judge G*d. The Bible is quite clear that G*d has killed people directly (the most prominent example being the flood) and indirectly (ordered peoples to be killed). If G*d ordered or participated in the killing of innocent people, then He would be guilty of murder. Let's look at two of the most prominent examples.

According to the Bible, G*d killed every human except Noah, his wife, his sons, and their wives in the flood. Were any of these people killed unjustly? No, the bible says specifically that all people (except Noah and his family) had become corrupted. Not only had all people become corrupted, but they were continually plotting evil! Is it possible that an entire culture can become corrupted? Yes, no doubt! Recent history proves the point rather well. When the Nazis took over Germany before WWII, opposition was crushed and removed. When they began their purging of the undesirables, virtually the entire society went along with the plan. If you examine the atrocities perpetrated by people within the last century, you find a huge number of murders. Joseph Stalin killed 20 million Soviet citizens between 1929 and 1939 because they were not politically correct. Mao Tse-tung killed 34 to 62 million Chinese during the Chinese civil war of the 1930s and 1940s. Pol Pot, the leader of the Marxist regime in Cambodia, Kampuchea, in the 1970's killed over 1.7 million of his own people. These do not include all the people killed in "legitimate" wars. Bottomline, no innocent people were killed in the flood.

What about when G*d ordered Joshua and his people to kill every man, woman and child in Canaan? What crime could be so great that entire populations of cities were designated for destruction? G*d told Moses that the nations that the Hebrew were replacing were wicked. The text tells us that they were burning their own sons and daughters in sacrifices to their gods. So we see that these people were not really innocent. For these reasons (and others), G*d ordered the destruction of the peoples whom the Israelites dispossessed.


People assume that children are innocent, even if their parents are doing bad things. The assumption is unfounded. For example, Palestinian Muslim children are officially taught in grammar school, and at home when they draw their first breath to hate their Jewish neighbors. They are so well indoctrinated that some of them give up their lives in suicide bombings as children. Corruption literally does breed corruption, which is why G*d did not want the Hebrews tainted by the other corrupt cultures of the Middle East.

G*d was asked if He would destroy the innocent along with the wicked. Prior to destroying Sodom and Gomorrah, Abraham asked G*d if He would destroy the righteous along with the wicked. G*d replied that He would spare the entire city for 50 righteous people. Abraham kept reducing the possible number of righteous people, asking G*d if He would destroy the entire city along with those number of righteous people. G*d's reply in each case was that He would not destroy the righteous along with the wicked. The lowest number Abraham asked about was ten righteous people, although the answer would likely be the same with as few as one righteous individual. How do we know this? G*d sent two angels to warn the four righteous people in Sodom to flee before He destroyed the city. It is quite convenient that such details are usually left out of atheistic sites complaining about the "evil" perpetrated by G*d. In fact, G*d saved certain people from being killed in cities such as Jericho.

The commandment "Thou shalt not kill" is not as general as the King James version would indicate. The commandment refers to premeditated, unjustified killing - murder. Although G*d ordered the extermination of entire cities, He did so in righteous judgment on a people whose corruption had led to extreme wickedness, including child sacrifice. Did G*d destroy the righteous along with the wicked? In an exchange with Abraham, G*d indicated that He would spare the wicked to save the righteous. He demonstrated this principle by saving righteous people from Sodom and Jericho prior to their destruction. The charge that G*d indiscriminately murdered people does not hold to critical evaluation of the biblical texts.

As for me being heartless, perhaps. But there are times that it is necessary to slap a person to get their attention. And laying the truth on an individual will often make that person think about what they are saying or doing. Your judgement of G*d is sinful and very wrong and worse, those who do not read or understand the bible could easily be led to sin and lose their soul.
In the Hebrew bible the word is ratsach….refers to... (show quote)



Thank-you for taking the time to put these issues into an holy perspective. As usual the mockers of the Lord leave out pertinent facts as they don't match the narrative they wish to advance. Quite frankly that is exactly what satan did when he tempted Christ, twisted the scriptures to fit an unholy narrative.

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Sep 11, 2019 19:26:10   #
son of witless
 
Rose42 wrote:
The God I worship is the God you continue to mock - the God of the bible that you reject.

You badly need to repent. You are on the road to eternal damnation.



Galatians 6:7 " Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap. "

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