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Aug 20, 2019 18:23:53   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Singularity wrote:
Lets not celebrate when we should be cerebrating, huh?

That loss is somewhere around 10% of their budget. Without the draconian restrictions the acceptance of federal dollars entails, PP will easily recover in a short amount of time and be able to revamp their services to meet the needs of people they serve. Including the not anywhere near negligible percentage if abortions regularly performed for Catholic and Evangelical Christians.

Meanwhile, the ensuing temporary deprivation in services aimed at reproductive planning/birth control will serve to ensure a temporary increase in unplanned pregnancies, thus more unwanted children and/or MORE ABORTIONS!.
Lets not celebrate when we should be cerebrating, ... (show quote)


I don't care, I'm no longer complicate in the murder chain. Sixty million is sixty million. That isn't what Title X was set up to do. It mostly kills black babies. If it didn't blacks would outnumber Hispanics. Now you'll have to kick in more of your own money for your beliefs. A twofer in my opinion.

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Aug 20, 2019 18:32:47   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
Kevyn wrote:
Don’t worry they will be providing reproductive health care for Americans for years to come. Don't get me wrong this is a significant set back for women’s rights but the tide will turn abruptly in 2021.





Hey, Kevyn, if it's a woman's right to abort a baby and men and women are equal, then why shouldn't a man be able to abort an unwanted baby the same as a woman. That way, every baby could be killed by one or both parents. The only babies that could escape death would be those actually wanted by both parents.
That would be a great way to ensure that EVERY baby that gets to live is wanted...otherwise, it's off to the organ market.

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Aug 21, 2019 07:43:56   #
Singularity
 
Peewee wrote:
I don't care, I'm no longer complicate in the murder chain. Sixty million is sixty million. That isn't what Title X was set up to do. It mostly kills black babies. If it didn't blacks would outnumber Hispanics. Now you'll have to kick in more of your own money for your beliefs. A twofer in my opinion.

The sixty million and counting 'murdered' babies don't matter to you anymore? As long as you aren't complicit. So God won't blame you? Your crown unvarnished, robes spotless, babies are dead, but that's all ok, cause YOU are not complicit?

You "don't care."

Ok, then.

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Aug 21, 2019 07:50:59   #
Singularity
 
maximus wrote:
Hey, Kevyn, if it's a woman's right to abort a baby and men and women are equal, then why shouldn't a man be able to abort an unwanted baby the same as a woman. That way, every baby could be killed by one or both parents. The only babies that could escape death would be those actually wanted by both parents.
That would be a great way to ensure that EVERY baby that gets to live is wanted...otherwise, it's off to the organ market.


I will be the first the defend any pregnant man's legal right to evacuate or cause to have removed any viable fetus from his womb.

If, as in Florida, one can shoot and kill a born, mostly grown child for occupying a coveted area of the sidewalk in a vaguely cheeky manner, I believe a pregnant woman, or man, should be able to expel a stowaway fetus from their own respective entrails.

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Aug 21, 2019 09:24:25   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Singularity wrote:
The sixty million and counting 'murdered' babies don't matter to you anymore? As long as you aren't complicit. So God won't blame you? Your crown unvarnished, robes spotless, babies are dead, but that's all ok, cause YOU are not complicit?

You "don't care."

Ok, then.


Who do you think I am? How much political sway do you think I have? I do what I can do. I haven't seen you bombing any abortion facilities or shooting any abortionist. I've been complaining for decades, writing and calling all my reps and nothing, until Trump. Some of my prayers were answered and more will be answered in the future. I care very much about each baby and everyone being trafficked, children and adults. How much and how often have you donated to legal groups fighting the good fight? I've been doing it since abortion was made legal. Don't look down your nose at me without knowing any facts. Worry about your own crown and robes. Judge not, lest you be judged. You are not my superior or my judge.

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Aug 21, 2019 10:49:49   #
Singularity
 
Peewee wrote:
Who do you think I am? How much political sway do you think I have? I do what I can do. I haven't seen you bombing any abortion facilities or shooting any abortionist. I've been complaining for decades, writing and calling all my reps and nothing, until Trump. Some of my prayers were answered and more will be answered in the future. I care very much about each baby and everyone being trafficked, children and adults. How much and how often have you donated to legal groups fighting the good fight? I've been doing it since abortion was made legal. Don't look down your nose at me without knowing any facts. Worry about your own crown and robes. Judge not, lest you be judged. You are not my superior or my judge.
Who do you think I am? How much political sway do ... (show quote)


I don't think who you are matters, as I was responding to your present stated opinion, not to you personally, nor in regards to your historical action.

It seemed you were saying you were ok with murdered babies as long as you were not "complicit." Perhaps I drew a hasty conclusion. Maybe from the direct statement that you "don't care."

And I am anti violence and pro choice so wouldn't be active in the manner you prescribed.

I believe the best way to prevent abortion is through education, especially of young people and support of mothers who find themselves in crises. I have four living love children of several mothers in crisis who have sequentially lived in my house with me, helping with my orthopedic and transportation deficits for room and board while choosing to remain pregnant instead of aborting. One, I spoke with yesterday, is due again in November! Whole family, herself, Dad and three other kids doing okay for now on their own....

And as for robes and crowns, they are available at many of the costume stores which are especially prevalent this time of year, if you value such things.

I shall judge as I see fit, thank you.

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Aug 21, 2019 13:26:50   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Singularity wrote:
I don't think who you are matters, as I was responding to your present stated opinion, not to you personally, nor in regards to your historical action.

It seemed you were saying you were ok with murdered babies as long as you were not "complicit." Perhaps I drew a hasty conclusion. Maybe from the direct statement that you "don't care."

And I am anti violence and pro choice so wouldn't be active in the manner you prescribed.

I believe the best way to prevent abortion is through education, especially of young people and support of mothers who find themselves in crises. I have four living love children of several mothers in crisis who have sequentially lived in my house with me, helping with my orthopedic and transportation deficits for room and board while choosing to remain pregnant instead of aborting. One, I spoke with yesterday, is due again in November! Whole family, herself, Dad and three other kids doing okay for now on their own....

And as for robes and crowns, they are available at many of the costume stores which are especially prevalent this time of year, if you value such things.

I shall judge as I see fit, thank you.
I don't think who you are matters, as I was respon... (show quote)


The best way to save babies is to get married first before you have sex. No excuses because things are different today. Every generation says that. If you are pro-choice we'll never be best buds. That's my judgement, thank you too.

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Aug 21, 2019 15:30:23   #
peg w
 
I went to Planned Parenthood to prevent pregnancies.as most people do. They gave me the only health care i had in my 20's and early 30's. I really resent people shoving their religion down other people's throats, and this is what Trump is doing.

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Aug 21, 2019 15:30:24   #
peg w
 
I went to Planned Parenthood to prevent pregnancies.as most people do. They gave me the only health care i had in my 20's and early 30's. I really resent people shoving their religion down other people's throats, and this is what Trump is doing.

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Aug 21, 2019 15:49:09   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
peg w wrote:
I went to Planned Parenthood to prevent pregnancies.as most people do. They gave me the only health care i had in my 20's and early 30's. I really resent people shoving their religion down other people's throats, and this is what Trump is doing.


No, he isn't. He is savings lives, human lives, from being sacrificed for convenience sake. If they can kill your baby for you why can't they tie your tubes for you? Because they don't want to. Not all women escape the scars of killing their own babies you just can't see some scars. And you don't have to be religious to have regrets later in life. The more abortions the less empathy people have for anyone.

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Aug 21, 2019 15:52:30   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
peg w wrote:
I went to Planned Parenthood to prevent pregnancies.as most people do. They gave me the only health care i had in my 20's and early 30's. I really resent people shoving their religion down other people's throats, and this is what Trump is doing.


peg
believe it or not
we read your post the first time

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Aug 22, 2019 15:15:27   #
jwrevagent
 
Peewee wrote:
No, he isn't. He is savings lives, human lives, from being sacrificed for convenience sake. If they can kill your baby for you why can't they tie your tubes for you? Because they don't want to. Not all women escape the scars of killing their own babies you just can't see some scars. And you don't have to be religious to have regrets later in life. The more abortions the less empathy people have for anyone.


And I resent you shoving your lack of religion, or agnosticism, or atheism down my throat. So where does that leave us? With no conversation, and no chance of understanding the other's point of view. I went to PP for an STD test many years ago, because my husband who was divorcing me, had been with several women, one of which did not know how many men she had been with-I wanted to know before we went to court, if I had Herpes, which at that time was the big scare. They were very thoughtful, respectful and kind, and that kind of health care I do approve. However, in an abortion, some one loses their life-guaranteed. And it is on purpose, and maliciously done.

It is not OK in New York, for instance, to declaw a cat, but it is fine to kill a child even after it is born because of a botched abortion. Not sure if that passed, but that they even considered it sends shivers and fear for this country down my spine. And we wonder why many businesses cannot find employees. What did anyone think was going to happen when it became abortion on demand as part of birth control? There are consequences to these things. Compared to the number of children who were never given an opportunity to breathe outside the womb, the mass shootings have few victims, yet we get all excited about that. But nothing is made of the more than a generation of babies who perhaps would have found the cure for some of the diseases, or perhaps would have had the wisdom of Solomon in leading this country-we will never know. While PP will go merrily on their way as the world's premier killing machine, and legally yet, at least it appears my tax dollars will not be used to fund it. Make no mistake, though, this does nothing to stop the slaughter.

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Aug 22, 2019 15:49:46   #
Tug484
 
jwrevagent wrote:
And I resent you shoving your lack of religion, or agnosticism, or atheism down my throat. So where does that leave us? With no conversation, and no chance of understanding the other's point of view. I went to PP for an STD test many years ago, because my husband who was divorcing me, had been with several women, one of which did not know how many men she had been with-I wanted to know before we went to court, if I had Herpes, which at that time was the big scare. They were very thoughtful, respectful and kind, and that kind of health care I do approve. However, in an abortion, some one loses their life-guaranteed. And it is on purpose, and maliciously done.

It is not OK in New York, for instance, to declaw a cat, but it is fine to kill a child even after it is born because of a botched abortion. Not sure if that passed, but that they even considered it sends shivers and fear for this country down my spine. And we wonder why many businesses cannot find employees. What did anyone think was going to happen when it became abortion on demand as part of birth control? There are consequences to these things. Compared to the number of children who were never given an opportunity to breathe outside the womb, the mass shootings have few victims, yet we get all excited about that. But nothing is made of the more than a generation of babies who perhaps would have found the cure for some of the diseases, or perhaps would have had the wisdom of Solomon in leading this country-we will never know. While PP will go merrily on their way as the world's premier killing machine, and legally yet, at least it appears my tax dollars will not be used to fund it. Make no mistake, though, this does nothing to stop the slaughter.
And I resent you shoving your lack of religion, or... (show quote)

Thank you.
You nailed it.

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Aug 22, 2019 17:40:48   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
jwrevagent wrote:
And I resent you shoving your lack of religion, or agnosticism, or atheism down my throat. So where does that leave us? With no conversation, and no chance of understanding the other's point of view. I went to PP for an STD test many years ago, because my husband who was divorcing me, had been with several women, one of which did not know how many men she had been with-I wanted to know before we went to court, if I had Herpes, which at that time was the big scare. They were very thoughtful, respectful and kind, and that kind of health care I do approve. However, in an abortion, some one loses their life-guaranteed. And it is on purpose, and maliciously done.

It is not OK in New York, for instance, to declaw a cat, but it is fine to kill a child even after it is born because of a botched abortion. Not sure if that passed, but that they even considered it sends shivers and fear for this country down my spine. And we wonder why many businesses cannot find employees. What did anyone think was going to happen when it became abortion on demand as part of birth control? There are consequences to these things. Compared to the number of children who were never given an opportunity to breathe outside the womb, the mass shootings have few victims, yet we get all excited about that. But nothing is made of the more than a generation of babies who perhaps would have found the cure for some of the diseases, or perhaps would have had the wisdom of Solomon in leading this country-we will never know. While PP will go merrily on their way as the world's premier killing machine, and legally yet, at least it appears my tax dollars will not be used to fund it. Make no mistake, though, this does nothing to stop the slaughter.
And I resent you shoving your lack of religion, or... (show quote)


The last I heard it's 900 per day.

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Aug 23, 2019 00:56:00   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
jwrevagent wrote:
And I resent you shoving your lack of religion, or agnosticism, or atheism down my throat. So where does that leave us? With no conversation, and no chance of understanding the other's point of view. I went to PP for an STD test many years ago, because my husband who was divorcing me, had been with several women, one of which did not know how many men she had been with-I wanted to know before we went to court, if I had Herpes, which at that time was the big scare. They were very thoughtful, respectful and kind, and that kind of health care I do approve. However, in an abortion, some one loses their life-guaranteed. And it is on purpose, and maliciously done.

It is not OK in New York, for instance, to declaw a cat, but it is fine to kill a child even after it is born because of a botched abortion. Not sure if that passed, but that they even considered it sends shivers and fear for this country down my spine. And we wonder why many businesses cannot find employees. What did anyone think was going to happen when it became abortion on demand as part of birth control? There are consequences to these things. Compared to the number of children who were never given an opportunity to breathe outside the womb, the mass shootings have few victims, yet we get all excited about that. But nothing is made of the more than a generation of babies who perhaps would have found the cure for some of the diseases, or perhaps would have had the wisdom of Solomon in leading this country-we will never know. While PP will go merrily on their way as the world's premier killing machine, and legally yet, at least it appears my tax dollars will not be used to fund it. Make no mistake, though, this does nothing to stop the slaughter.
And I resent you shoving your lack of religion, or... (show quote)





Applause and standing ovation!!!

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