nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

I mean really. Our world is now messed up. Everything is divided between left and right, liberal and conservative, Trump hating and Trump supporting/tolerating, white and other, extremist and normal, Muslim loving and Muslim hating, Israel loving and Israel hating, man caused climate change and natural climate change, pro-choice and pro-life, pro-LGBTABC and anti-LGBTABCD, pro- same sex marriage and anti-same sex marriage, gender optional and gender bio-determined, etc, etc. Everyone is aligned along pretty much the same lines of thought, one side or the other, no matter how unrelated they are.

Trump haters love everything Trump is against and hate everything Trump loves. The Trump haters hate Trump so much they literally love the things they once hated because now Trump works to stop those things they once hated. Oh how the left, being supporters of women's rights, support Muslim ways of thinking simply because Trump wanted to stop immigration from six countries designated by Obama as being high risk related to sending terrorists into the country. I mean really, who in the world are more misogynist and anti-woman's rights than Muslim men??

No matter what Obama brought to the table and left us with; (mostly racism if you ask me); no matter how the GOP worked to defeat Obama, which they did, we now have the new norm of anti-Trump sentiment which goes even further, dominating everything from religion to 90% of the media to the minds of democrats who really aren't liberal democrats anymore, but who are now trying to undermine the country which we fought and died for; undermining it's very constitution and it's establishing principles. We see candidates for president openly doing this, openly wanting to defeat freedom through the establishment of socialism which is only a hairs breath away from communistic ideals.

No one can be convinced and no one will change who they are because one side is so fully brainwashed into the cult of anti-Trump thinking that the other must swing fully to the other extreme to come close to balancing out what is an increasingly greater move towards the dissolution of the USA. Extremists dominate. Pretty much the only thing the media will cover is extremism. They openly publish lying accounts of current events and the things people say and do, even to the point of wanting to repress and suppress those who have opinions differing from those of the left and the anti-Trumps. Leftists now openly want to stop any media outlet from publishing any opinions or science which doesn't promote the leftist climate change agenda, no matter what it is. They want to control what the masses are allowed to see and hear and this is just the tip of the ice berg. Whistle blowers from Google have openly admitted that google has been altering internet content to the point of actually believing that they are able to take credit for over 2 million votes for Hillary Clinton. And sadly, they are able to do this because of the gullibility of the masses, they having bought into the only things they have ever heard; leftist anti-Trump rhetoric and propaganda.

In other words, 90%, at least, of what the media produces in the form of "news" is nothing less than leftist propaganda. Nothing less than that!

Let's face it, we live in a world gone mad; madder than any previous world we ever had.

Humans, as a species, seem destined to continue with the trends we see here; rising conflict leading ultimately to violence. Look at us now. Violence reigns. It lives in our sources of entertainment, our escape areas; TV, movies, fiction, games, everything!

Where do we go from here?

Stratman911

Here's something obviously nobody has ever explained to you... Socialism has existed in this country for decades and a lot of people have benefited from it... Do you have a police force where you live? Payed for by tax payers dollars (socialist) Do you have a fire Dept where you live? Payed for the same way (socialism) did you attend a public school, or ever use a public library? (Socialism) do you know anyone receiving a social security check? Yep! You guessed it (socialism) so why is this such a scary concept now?

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

True, to a certain extent, those are socialistic things; mostly local, however except for social security which actually represents a great example of why socialism should be avoided. And now, it's becoming more about the redistribution of wealth and the government telling us more and more about what we can and cannot do.

EmilyD

Socialism is taking from one person what he has earned to give benefit to another who has done nothing to earn it. Police, Fire Departments and Libraries are funded locally by taxpayers. Nothing has been earned or taken away from anyone.

Social Security is a forced savings plan that every American pays into when they earn income. It does not come from taxpayers. I paid into Social Security and Medicare for 45 years - it was promised that when I retire, I would get it back, and now that promise is being kept - I am now being paid back what I put into it for all those years. That is NOT socialism in the least.

Stratman911

I don't view it as wealth redistribution so much as everyone paying there fair share... The most prosperous times in the past 100 years were from the mid 40's through the 60's in that time the top marginal tax never dropped below 80% and we averaged 4% economic growth annually, now we're lucky if we get 3% ... One concept the top 1% seems to have forgotten, is that every gain has its cost, the more you gain the more it costs... I didn't make that rule and neither did any other politician active today... It's just a fact of life

Wonttakeitanymore

Bull crap social security paid by us workers! Not welfare!!the police force and fire departments paid for by tax payers not leeches!!we pay for those programs with our money not others!

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

What is fair about paying other peoples bills?

acknowledgeurma

Yes, in the US it is "becoming more about the redistribution of wealth". The same old rich get richer, poor get poorer: socialism for the rich.

See:
https://inequality.org/facts/wealth-inequality/

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Exactly right, although there is the social aspect to it but not the extreme that the new leftists are pushing for.

EmilyD

Yes...and I have to wonder who is going to pay for "Medicare for all", since people who are currently on Medicare paid for it themselves?

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

YOu forget that it is the stuff owned by the top 5% that the bottom 90% use to make a living. Value and wealth are, then, relative. Take away the things the wealthy own and who will the bottom 90% work for?

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

And who will pay for free college; for the free money, if you listen to some?

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

But it's not just money and socialism that the left are pushing!

Stratman911

Any program payed for by a collective pool of money such as taxes is at it's core socialist my friend look it up

acknowledgeurma

Well, some democratic socialists (there are many different kinds of socialism, just as there are many different kinds of capitalism) would say, "They will work for themselves."