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'Facts matter': FEC chairwoman challenges Trump's voter fraud claims
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Aug 19, 2019 12:15:48   #
Sew_What
 
Any questions?

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Aug 19, 2019 12:21:07   #
ImLogicallyRight
 
About what. You spout something with no references and we are supposed to believe you and comment.

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Aug 19, 2019 12:30:03   #
Sew_What
 
ImLogicallyRight wrote:
About what. You spout something with no references and we are supposed to believe you and comment.


Most people would just google it, but I'll help you out because this must be your first rodeo:

Ellen Weintraub, the chairwoman of the Federal Election Commission, on Monday rebuked President Donald Trump’s repeated allegations of widespread voter fraud in the 2016 election as “damaging to our democracy” and wholly unsubstantiated.

“There is no evidence of rampant voter fraud in 2016 or really in any previous election,” Weintraub, a Democrat, told CNN.


“People have studied this. Academics have studied this. Lawyers have studied this. The government has studied this. Democrats have studied this. Republicans have studied this,” she continued. “And no one can find any evidence of rampant voter fraud either historically or particularly in the 2016 elections.”

The White House did not immediately return an email seeking a response to Weintraub's remarks.

Trump on Thursday asserted at a rally in New Hampshire that voter fraud is the reason he lost the Granite State’s four electoral votes in the previous presidential election. He told supporters at an arena in Manchester, "It was taken away from us."

In a letter to Trump on Friday, Weintraub challenged Trump “to provide any evidence” that could back up those statements. “To put it in terms a former casino operator should understand: There comes a time when you need to lay your cards on the table or fold,” she wrote.

The president on Sunday reiterated his unfounded claims, telling reporters in New Jersey that “many, many people voted that shouldn't have been voted,” and insisting “some people voted many times.”

"Facts matter. And people of America need to be able to believe what their leaders tell them,” Weintraub said Monday.

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Aug 19, 2019 12:32:28   #
Lonewolf
 
Sew_What wrote:
Most people would just google it, but I'll help you out because this must be your first rodeo:

Ellen Weintraub, the chairwoman of the Federal Election Commission, on Monday rebuked President Donald Trump’s repeated allegations of widespread voter fraud in the 2016 election as “damaging to our democracy” and wholly unsubstantiated.

“There is no evidence of rampant voter fraud in 2016 or really in any previous election,” Weintraub, a Democrat, told CNN.


“People have studied this. Academics have studied this. Lawyers have studied this. The government has studied this. Democrats have studied this. Republicans have studied this,” she continued. “And no one can find any evidence of rampant voter fraud either historically or particularly in the 2016 elections.”

The White House did not immediately return an email seeking a response to Weintraub's remarks.

Trump on Thursday asserted at a rally in New Hampshire that voter fraud is the reason he lost the Granite State’s four electoral votes in the previous presidential election. He told supporters at an arena in Manchester, "It was taken away from us."

In a letter to Trump on Friday, Weintraub challenged Trump “to provide any evidence” that could back up those statements. “To put it in terms a former casino operator should understand: There comes a time when you need to lay your cards on the table or fold,” she wrote.

The president on Sunday reiterated his unfounded claims, telling reporters in New Jersey that “many, many people voted that shouldn't have been voted,” and insisting “some people voted many times.”

"Facts matter. And people of America need to be able to believe what their leaders tell them,” Weintraub said Monday.
Most people would just google it, but I'll help yo... (show quote)



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Aug 19, 2019 12:39:03   #
Kevyn
 
Sew_What wrote:
Any questions?


She very eloquently stuffed a sock in the Idiot Pumpkinfuhrer’s pie hole! You can bet the farm that the Orange Anus will NEVER provide the evidence to support his lie, because the evidence doesn't exist. All he wants to do is destroy Americans faith in our electoral system.



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Aug 19, 2019 12:47:44   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Sew_What wrote:
Any questions?


What she said is 'There is no evidence of rampant voter fraud.' This is not the same as there is no voter fraud. Indeed, her words acknowledges that she knows there has been voter fraud, just not in all 50 states so it, for now, is not spreading. She goes on to say, "we really need to be taking action."

One wonders, if all states had cooperated with the investigation into voter fraud, what would have been found.....would we still need this conversation?

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Aug 19, 2019 13:12:02   #
Sew_What
 
Pennylynn wrote:
What she said is 'There is no evidence of rampant voter fraud.' This is not the same as there is no voter fraud. Indeed, her words acknowledges that she knows there has been voter fraud, just not in all 50 states so it, for now, is not spreading. She goes on to say, "we really need to be taking action."

One wonders, if all states had cooperated with the investigation into voter fraud, what would have been found.....would we still need this conversation?


1. The voter fraud that has any impact on anything, is the way, the DNC selects their candidates during the primaries, in as such as to how they promote a candidate that has not been legitimately selected.

2. And the way most states issue driver's licenses, only recently started including proof of citizenship.

Rampant or otherwise, proof of citizenship isn't required to do many things and yet states are requiring people to show a driver's license that would pass to even get a passport.

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Aug 19, 2019 13:17:31   #
Pat Riot
 
[quote=Sew_What]"Most people would just google it, but I'll help you out because this must be your first rodeo:

Ellen Weintraub, the chairwoman of the Federal Election Commission, on Monday rebuked President Donald Trump’s repeated allegations of widespread voter fraud in the 2016 election as “damaging to our democracy” and wholly unsubstantiated.

“There is no evidence of rampant voter fraud in 2016 or really in any previous election,” Weintraub, a Democrat, told CNN."

Surprise surprise! Ellen Weintraub is a Democrat! Why do you libtards continue to believe fake news, 1st rodeo boy? Did you ever consider that public officials can use "weasel words" to deceive the public? Deceivers are LIARS! Notice how conveniently the word, "rampant" was inserted in Weintraub's diatribe. Now ponder the FACT that DOZENS of counties in the U.S. reported incredulous voting results in the 2016 (and many other) elections, whereby more votes were counted than were registered voters. Hmm...
Next, put everything in context and suddenly you'll understand that massive voter fraud exists and by saying "rampant", one is merely camouflaging the facts.
Finally, why do you suppose that so many states resisted working with the Federal government regarding voter rolls by refusing to compare registered voters? It wasn't to "protect" anyone's privacy. It was flat out protection of obvious voter fraud. Same reason rational & sane citizens can't get voter ID laws passed.
Democrats are Demonrats! Educate yourself & get woke on this issue!

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Aug 19, 2019 13:20:42   #
woodguru
 
Sew_What wrote:
Any questions?


She in effect told him to STFU if he couldn't provide proof, which he obviously can't since his waste of time commission couldn't find anything. Even after the commission manafed to remove the "partisan biased" deep state from the commission the partisan players had to say they could find no proof.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/457942-fec-chairwoman-to-trump-there-is-no-evidence-of-rampant-voter-fraud

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Aug 19, 2019 13:21:41   #
Sew_What
 
[quote=Pat Riot]
Sew_What wrote:
"Most people would just google it, but I'll help you out because this must be your first rodeo:

Ellen Weintraub, the chairwoman of the Federal Election Commission, on Monday rebuked President Donald Trump’s repeated allegations of widespread voter fraud in the 2016 election as “damaging to our democracy” and wholly unsubstantiated.

“There is no evidence of rampant voter fraud in 2016 or really in any previous election,” Weintraub, a Democrat, told CNN."

Surprise surprise! Ellen Weintraub is a Democrat! Why do you libtards continue to believe fake news, 1st rodeo boy? Did you ever consider that public officials can use "weasel words" to deceive the public? Deceivers are LIARS! Notice how conveniently the word, "rampant" was inserted in Weintraub's diatribe. Now ponder the FACT that DOZENS of counties in the U.S. reported incredulous voting results in the 2016 (and many other) elections, whereby more votes were counted than were registered voters. Hmm...
Next, put everything in context and suddenly you'll understand that massive voter fraud exists and by saying "rampant", one is merely camouflaging the facts.
Finally, why do you suppose that so many states resisted working with the Federal government regarding voter rolls by refusing to compare registered voters? It wasn't to "protect" anyone's privacy. It was flat out protection of obvious voter fraud. Same reason rational & sane citizens can't get voter ID laws passed.
Democrats are Demonrats! Educate yourself & get woke on this issue!
"Most people would just google it, but I'll h... (show quote)


Okay, so you must have evidence to the contrary.

What about the then AG in Georgia that kicked a bunch of voters off the voting who is now Governor. There wasn't any reason to that, and he was a Republican.

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Aug 19, 2019 13:22:48   #
Kevyn
 
[quote=Pat Riot]
Sew_What wrote:
"Most people would just google it, but I'll help you out because this must be your first rodeo:

Ellen Weintraub, the chairwoman of the Federal Election Commission, on Monday rebuked President Donald Trump’s repeated allegations of widespread voter fraud in the 2016 election as “damaging to our democracy” and wholly unsubstantiated.

“There is no evidence of rampant voter fraud in 2016 or really in any previous election,” Weintraub, a Democrat, told CNN."

Surprise surprise! Ellen Weintraub is a Democrat! Why do you libtards continue to believe fake news, 1st rodeo boy? Did you ever consider that public officials can use "weasel words" to deceive the public? Deceivers are LIARS! Notice how conveniently the word, "rampant" was inserted in Weintraub's diatribe. Now ponder the FACT that DOZENS of counties in the U.S. reported incredulous voting results in the 2016 (and many other) elections, whereby more votes were counted than were registered voters. Hmm...
Next, put everything in context and suddenly you'll understand that massive voter fraud exists and by saying "rampant", one is merely camouflaging the facts.
Finally, why do you suppose that so many states resisted working with the Federal government regarding voter rolls by refusing to compare registered voters? It wasn't to "protect" anyone's privacy. It was flat out protection of obvious voter fraud. Same reason rational & sane citizens can't get voter ID laws passed.
Democrats are Demonrats! Educate yourself & get woke on this issue!
"Most people would just google it, but I'll h... (show quote)


If this is the case your illustrious Pumpkinfuhrer will cough up the evidence to support his ridiculous claims. If the fraud he claims is actually going on it is his sworn duty to bring it to an end. It is time for the Orange Anus to put up or shut up.

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Aug 19, 2019 13:26:18   #
woodguru
 
Pennylynn wrote:
What she said is 'There is no evidence of rampant voter fraud.' This is not the same as there is no voter fraud. Indeed, her words acknowledges that she knows there has been voter fraud, just not in all 50 states so it, for now, is not spreading. She goes on to say, "we really need to be taking action."

One wonders, if all states had cooperated with the investigation into voter fraud, what would have been found.....would we still need this conversation?


Actually for slower people, she is specifically talking about Trump's claim that there were millions of undocumented people voting. No, there was not, and he commissioned a task force to identify it, which they were unable to do.

No evidence of something carries far more weight than the rhetorical no evidence there wasn't, that is a fool's position as proof of an absence is far harder to come by than proof of a deed.

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Aug 19, 2019 13:28:12   #
woodguru
 
Sew_What wrote:
Okay, so you must have evidence to the contrary.

What about the then AG in Georgia that kicked a bunch of voters off the voting who is now Governor. There wasn't any reason to that, and he was a Republican.


Not to mention standard protocol would be to resign his position in charge of elections as soon as he announced his run.

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Aug 19, 2019 13:38:27   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Sew_What wrote:
1. The voter fraud that has any impact on anything, is the way, the DNC selects their candidates during the primaries, in as such as to how they promote a candidate that has not been legitimately selected.

2. And the way most states issue driver's licenses, only recently started including proof of citizenship.

Rampant or otherwise, proof of citizenship isn't required to do many things and yet states are requiring people to show a driver's license that would pass to even get a passport.
1. The voter fraud that has any impact on anything... (show quote)


If what you say in point 1 is correct, what manner of system do you propose as its replacement?


Proof of citizenship is not a requirement in any state as far as I can find to obtain a driver's license. As long as the individual can show they are legally in the country, be at minimum age, pass the exam, and have proof of insurance anyone can be licensed to drive. Obtaining a passport is Federally run, not state and to obtain a passport, one needs to present a birth certificate with a "raised seal." A driver's licence is not required to obtain a passport.

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Aug 19, 2019 13:47:44   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
woodguru wrote:
Actually for slower people, she is specifically talking about Trump's claim that there were millions of undocumented people voting. No, there was not, and he commissioned a task force to identify it, which they were unable to do.

No evidence of something carries far more weight than the rhetorical no evidence there wasn't, that is a fool's position as proof of an absence is far harder to come by than proof of a deed.


Not exactly, both Weintraub and President Trump were talking about New Hampshire. The investigation was closed because certain states (mostly those who are primarily Socialist) filed law suites to stop the investigation while other states refused full cooperation.

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