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Aug 18, 2019 12:01:00   #
Mikeyavelli
 
jimpack123 wrote:
I believe that Biden will get the nomination. The choice of VP running mate is the big question it has to be someone young and progressive My guess it will be one of the three of Beto, Harris and Joe Kennedy III


Hmmm, a Kennedy. The kommiecrats might keep that horse out of the race, because whomever they run, is going to lose and become the next Dukakis.
If the kommiecrats are smart, Sherrod Brown should be the VP running mate. Say, Buttgagag and Brown.
They would appeal to the middle.

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Aug 18, 2019 12:26:31   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Why the repost?


In case your ignorant butt missed it the first time.

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Aug 18, 2019 12:33:52   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
JFlorio wrote:
Damn. Can’t seem to find em. Oh well I’m sure some Democrats will say we have a new gun law but you can keep your gun and ammo. Just like we could keep are healthcare plan and doctors. Sorry, forgot. That didn’t work out so good. Neither will this idea.


I think you need to look at just what the 2nd amendment says.
It provides for state militias members carrying arms.

So I would say that any one not belonging to a military militia has no individual right to carry arms.
So I say one had better read the small print.
If the NRA wishes to still have a place in this nation they had better get it right.

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Aug 18, 2019 12:44:06   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
I think you need to look at just what the 2nd amendment says.
It provides for state militias members carrying arms.

So I would say that any one not belonging to a military militia has no individual right to carry arms.
So I say one had better read the small print.
If the NRA wishes to still have a place in this nation they had better get it right.


Settled law. Read the Federalist Papers if you want to know what the Founders intended. Plus, no one cares what you say, especially the Law.

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Aug 18, 2019 12:47:50   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Hmmm, a Kennedy. The kommiecrats might keep that horse out of the race, because whomever they run, is going to lose and become the next Dukakis.
If the kommiecrats are smart, Sherrod Brown should be the VP running mate. Say, Buttgagag and Brown.
They would appeal to the middle.


If Kennedy were to run as a VP it would be setting him up in 2024 As one if Biden did win he wouls be a one term POTUS and if he lost it would set Kennedy up to run in 2024

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Aug 18, 2019 12:48:03   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Hmmm, a Kennedy. The kommiecrats might keep that horse out of the race, because whomever they run, is going to lose and become the next Dukakis.
If the kommiecrats are smart, Sherrod Brown should be the VP running mate. Say, Buttgagag and Brown.
They would appeal to the middle.
And Dukakis was running for President if I remember right

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Aug 18, 2019 13:28:39   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
I think you need to look at just what the 2nd amendment says.
It provides for state militias members carrying arms.

So I would say that any one not belonging to a military militia has no individual right to carry arms.
So I say one had better read the small print.
If the NRA wishes to still have a place in this nation they had better get it right.


it would seem that your knowledge of law is even less than your knowledge of history. I didn't think that was possible. It seems that the news never made it to Liberal LaLa Land; the Second Amendment addresses an individual right to bear arms unrelated to membership in a militia. You have obviously never heard of a prefatory clause, and you are unfamiliar with the usages of the English language 230 years ago.
Below is a link to the actual comments of the men who actually wrote the Amendment, as to it's intent.

https://thefederalistpapers.org/second-amendment-2/famous-quotes-from-the-founding-fathers-on-our-right-to-bear-arms

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Aug 18, 2019 13:29:34   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
it would seem that your knowledge of law is even less than your knowledge of history. I didn't think that was possible. It seems that the news never made it to Liberal LaLa Land; the Second Amendment addresses an individual right to bear arms unrelated to membership in a militia. You have obviously never heard of a prefatory clause, and you are unfamiliar with the usages of the English language 230 years ago.
Below is a link to the actual comments of the men who actually wrote the Amendment, as to it's intent.

https://thefederalistpapers.org/second-amendment-2/famous-quotes-from-the-founding-fathers-on-our-right-to-bear-arms
it would seem that your knowledge of law is even l... (show quote)


Something tells me he won't read it.

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Aug 18, 2019 13:42:48   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
I think you need to look at just what the 2nd amendment says.
It provides for state militias members carrying arms.

So I would say that any one not belonging to a military militia has no individual right to carry arms.
So I say one had better read the small print.
If the NRA wishes to still have a place in this nation they had better get it right.


That means then, that I am a militius of One.

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Aug 18, 2019 14:41:45   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
it would seem that your knowledge of law is even less than your knowledge of history. I didn't think that was possible. It seems that the news never made it to Liberal LaLa Land; the Second Amendment addresses an individual right to bear arms unrelated to membership in a militia. You have obviously never heard of a prefatory clause, and you are unfamiliar with the usages of the English language 230 years ago.
Below is a link to the actual comments of the men who actually wrote the Amendment, as to it's intent.

https://thefederalistpapers.org/second-amendment-2/famous-quotes-from-the-founding-fathers-on-our-right-to-bear-arms
it would seem that your knowledge of law is even l... (show quote)


I almost forgot. You should look up the Heller case, in which the SCOTUS stated that the right to keep and bear arms is unrelated to militia membership.

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Aug 18, 2019 16:03:57   #
MR Mister Loc: Washington DC
 
Navigator wrote:
I will fight to prevent confiscation but, if it comes to that, I will give up my guns b/c I am law abiding. So will virtually everyone else, despite their bravado, just like in Australia and New Zealand. Those who refuse will be arrested. Those who resist arrest will be beaten into submission. Those who resist with arms will be killed. I believe a few thousand will be killed after which ALL guns will be banned including single shot .22s. Most likely swords and all kinds of knives will be banned. Take away - don't allow universal registration b/c without registration, confiscation can not occur.
I will fight to prevent confiscation but, if it co... (show quote)


What you say is not preventing anything, you have already given up!

You fail to understand, there is a difference between New Zeland, Australia, Canada, and a few other English colonies. The United States is the ONLY ONE that stood against Great Britton and won! WON. No others did that. And we will not be put under and lefties thumb. I will give them all my ammo before giving them my gun. The commies are way out numbered. So, you sissy's that call yourself conservative put your MAGA hats on and go shopping.

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Aug 18, 2019 16:49:48   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
I don't see that smoke signal.
But if Squaw Grey Beaver wins the presidency she will take my money and my guns.
I used to think that Buttgagag would be the nominee, but not so sure now.
I hope it's Biden, but he won't last.


I watched a summary yesterday on it, they were saying Biden will drop out, and Warren will be the choice. Hope not, but the dem’s are going to do it dirty, and get the votes by rigging it. Heard Google was behind it. Hope it isn’t true.
If we lose, we can kiss our country goodby!

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Aug 18, 2019 17:48:02   #
Mikeyavelli
 
jSmitty45 wrote:
I watched a summary yesterday on it, they were saying Biden will drop out, and Warren will be the choice. Hope not, but the dem’s are going to do it dirty, and get the votes by rigging it. Heard Google was behind it. Hope it isn’t true.
If we lose, we can kiss our country goodby!


Yep, and I think that all the big tech companies will purposely tank their earnings to cause a well timed recession.
I don't understand at all how Trump is bad for business, unless these young titans really think that a borderless one government world with Islam as the policing force is good for business and growth in technology.

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Aug 18, 2019 22:28:20   #
Navigator
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Wow! Maybe you'd be cowed into giving up your guns, but it is a logical fallacy to assume "virtually everyone else" would.

Any law established to confiscate guns would, by default, be unconstitutional. Our Constitutional rights cannot be usurped by an illegal law.

Now, you tell me how a nationwide gun confiscation would proceed, how would it be implemented, who would enforce it, what resources would they use, where they would start.

Do that, and I'll show you how such a thing would be impossible.
Wow! Maybe you'd be cowed into giving up your guns... (show quote)



I can tell you as well do not live in NY, so let me explain how this was done and is happening here in NY. First, laws were passed making AR-15s and similar (Semi-auto versions of AK-47s, SKSs, etc.) guns and accessories illegal, but if you already had them, you could keep them if you registered them (you can not, however sell it, gift it or pass it on after you die). One year later, it became a felony to possess all such weapons that had not been registered. If you are found in possession of such an unregistered weapon (police searching your house following a burglary, your wife/girlfriend/enemy turning you in, being stupid enough to bring one to a public shooting range, etc.) you are arrested and charged with a felony and the weapon is confiscated. If convicted of this felony, ALL of your weapons are confiscated. Many law-abiding residents of NY did register these guns so when the Democrat Assembly and Democrat Senate pass and the Democrat governor signs a law making these guns illegal whether registered or not, the police have a relatively easy task lifting the telephone and telling those who registered their guns they are in possession of illegal weapons and must turn them in to the nearest police station. Tens of thousands of NY citizens DID NOT register these guns so we now have tens of thousands of new felons in NY. Shouting from the rooftops a law is unconstitutional does not make it so and, so far, these laws in NY have NOT been found unconstitutional.

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Aug 19, 2019 00:35:52   #
Cuda2020
 
JFlorio wrote:
In case your ignorant butt missed it the first time.


Not very observant are you, as I responded to it the first time, it appears you're the ignorant butt.

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