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Aug 14, 2019 19:25:50   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
permafrost wrote:
so of course you chose to misunderstand my post..

Gun nuts like to say no to any regulation.. they say no law will stop criminals or solve the problem of the killings..

they are correct.. but I am fed up with refusing to try anything because it will not be 100% effective..
Nothing is.. but let us give some sort of effort to finding a few things which could help.. preventing one mass shooting would make it very worth while..

Guns in every pocket does not seem a reasonable idea.. in mpls we had an armed guy try to help the cops in a bar room shoot out back in the 70s, ended up shot by the cops. they had no idea he was a good guy..

No reasonable person is trying to repeal the 2nd amendment.. right wing/left wing... we will not allow such an action to happen..
so of course you chose to misunderstand my post.. ... (show quote)


"preventing one mass shooting would make it very worth while.. "

And how would you measure that so that you would know one was prevented? Lots of mass shooting have been prevented.

"No reasonable person is trying to repeal the 2nd amendment.." But there are plenty of unreasonable people who would like to.

So you see, I didn't misunderstand anything about your message. But this thread wasn't about gun control and a hundred other issues which have all been dealt with ad Infinitum on OPP. The thread is about Obama statues.

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Aug 14, 2019 19:27:08   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Because they tried to pass the small arms treaty, but Congress was having none of it, but you already knew that. I said the U.N. because you said no one is trying to take our guns away.

Sharia law? Never say never. Maybe not in our lifetime but there will always be those who will keep trying.
Seventy years ago everyone thought socialism would never rear its' head in America.



You sorta have a point... Sharia law, course someone in the country would like to use it.. but never going to happen.. even when our great grand kids are running this hunk of rock..

Small arms treaty.. you are correct on the out come, but I will add that it concerned manufacturing not ownership..

And also, sure, in our country of over 300 million, we also have people who would like to remove all guns. and that is a thing which will never happen either..

Socialism had a day in this country as well as so many others.. back in the 30s the movement was found in every nation of the world i am sure..

even in the 50s, they had a free socialist/communist newspaper given away near the University of MN..

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Aug 14, 2019 19:33:37   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
If you don't have a record, if you're not diagnosed with a mental condition, and you have registered guns, no one from the left is coming for your guns, get it straight and stop buying the hype.


Yeah....that's just what the left always says while they are figuring out a way to remove more gun rights and weaken the Second Amendment. This is a subject that has been talked about on OPP many many times. You can go back and look at them. You haven't offered anything that hasn't been said already. Your denials are hollow.

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Aug 14, 2019 19:33:40   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
dtucker300 wrote:
"preventing one mass shooting would make it very worth while.. "

And how would you measure that so that you would know one was prevented? Lots of mass shooting have been prevented.

"No reasonable person is trying to repeal the 2nd amendment.." But there are plenty of unreasonable people who would like to.

So you see, I didn't misunderstand anything about your message.



I would say you do.. you seem to want the staus que.. let it alone, the price we pay to stay as we are..

I do not want to have conditions remain the same.. I want fewer, much fewer shootings of every type.

can not measure when a shooting is prevented? I would not agree with that, most often it would be obvious. some not reported, some glossed over. But the men on the ground would know what they have done. very well.

Not sure if you understand or not.. one way or the other though, it does seem you do not wish any effort to be made..

You worry me.. we all should be involved in problems such as this..

I should add, I do not care much about the bronze statue.. very much a minor thing..
seems foolish to damage any statue..
Not a huge loss if one of a chain is gone..

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Aug 14, 2019 19:46:06   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
permafrost wrote:
I would say you do.. you seem to want the staus que.. let it alone, the price we pay to stay as we are..

I do not want to have conditions remain the same.. I want fewer, much fewer shootings of every type.

can not measure when a shooting is prevented? I would not agree with that, most often it would be obvious. some not reported, some glossed over. But the men on the ground would know what they have done. very well.

Not sure if you understand or not.. one way or the other though, it does seem you do not wish any effort to be made..

You worry me.. we all should be involved in problems such as this..

I should add, I do not care much about the bronze statue.. very much a minor thing..
seems foolish to damage any statue..
Not a huge loss if one of a chain is gone..
I would say you do.. you seem to want the staus qu... (show quote)


You're being disingenuous. I offered a possible way to decrease gun violence. That is hardly preserving the status quo. We all want fewer shootings. Anyone who doesn't believe this is out of their mind.
Several mass shootings have been prevented and we are well aware of them just as several terrorist attacks have been stopped. You're the one that said if it could prevent just one it would be worth it. Or don't you really believe that? The solution is not one single answer. It is a multipronged effort that even some of the Republicans and RINOs recognize. Trump and Graham are looking for a solution but it is never enough for the leftists who want complete power and control over everyone and everything. On this, there can be no middle ground.

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Aug 14, 2019 21:33:46   #
Cuda2020
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Yeah....that's just what the left always says while they are figuring out a way to remove more gun rights and weaken the Second Amendment. This is a subject that has been talked about on OPP many many times. You can go back and look at them. You haven't offered anything that hasn't been said already. Your denials are hollow.


Not nearly as hollow as your baseless accusations. Low and behold, Democrats like to shoot and hunt also, imagine that, no, say it ain't so Joe...Get a grip man

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Aug 14, 2019 21:40:24   #
Cuda2020
 
dtucker300 wrote:
You're being disingenuous. I offered a possible way to decrease gun violence. That is hardly preserving the status quo. We all want fewer shootings. Anyone who doesn't believe this is out of their mind.
Several mass shootings have been prevented and we are well aware of them just as several terrorist attacks have been stopped. You're the one that said if it could prevent just one it would be worth it. Or don't you really believe that? The solution is not one single answer. It is a multipronged effort that even some of the Republicans and RINOs recognize. Trump and Graham are looking for a solution but it is never enough for the leftists who want complete power and control over everyone and everything. On this, there can be no middle ground.
You're being disingenuous. I offered a possible w... (show quote)


On this there can be no middle ground, that's where you guys are on everything. In the latest shooting, the man shot 27 people in 32 seconds, and you guys still do nothing. The bill in the senate being blocked by Mr turtlehead Mc Donnell has been on the books in Colorado for 20 years! They all have their second amendment rights in tact. So what is your problem?

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Aug 14, 2019 21:47:29   #
Cuda2020
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
The lefties and their fair housing and bad loans brought the economy down, and Barney Frank was the kingpin for that. Obama was thwarted because there were a few Patriots left who saw that the Obama administration was out to crush what we had left, and build a new economy, a new constitution, and a new world order. Obama strangled the coal and gas companies, and went all out war on oil.
The sunnuvabich almost succeeded.


It had nothing to do with the lefties, bad loans came from each individual shanty loan being accepted and out to screw their client.

Mike you don't know what you're talking about. Stick to reading comic books versus the rights clap trap, you'll be better informed.

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Aug 14, 2019 21:49:57   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Not nearly as hollow as your baseless accusations. Low and behold, Democrats like to shoot and hunt also, imagine that, no, say it ain't so Joe...Get a grip man


Who's baseless accusations? What accusations. No one here denied that Democrats like to hunt and shoot.
At least, I didn't.

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Aug 14, 2019 21:52:42   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
On this there can be no middle ground, that's where you guys are on everything. In the latest shooting, the man shot 27 people in 32 seconds, and you guys still do nothing. The bill in the senate being blocked by Mr turtlehead Mc Donnell has been on the books in Colorado for 20 years! They all have their second amendment rights in tact. So what is your problem?


There can be no middle ground on letting leftists have complete power and control. Try reading.

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Aug 14, 2019 21:56:44   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
It had nothing to do with the lefties, bad loans came from each individual shanty loan being accepted and out to screw their client.

Mike you don't know what you're talking about. Stick to reading comic books versus the rights clap trap, you'll be better informed.


Barney Frank is the one who cleared the way for these loans because he and the Democrats wanted to make it possible for EVERYONE to buy a house, regardless of their ability to pay. This was another one of the entitlements that Democrats thought should be available to everyone. This is such a simple concept that you may have even read about it in the comic books. That how the Left distributes most of their propaganda and make it understandable to their useful idiots.

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Aug 14, 2019 22:22:23   #
Mikeyavelli
 
permafrost wrote:
Your fear that someone may take away your guns is very unfounded..

Liberals own guns as well.. and no one will be taking my guns..


You will gladly give them to your government.
You are a myrmidon. You hear, and you obey.
Only your government should have guns. You are not capable of having a gun. Your government knows best.

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Aug 14, 2019 22:27:45   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
You will gladly give them to your government.
You are a myrmidon. You hear, and you obey.
Only your government should have guns. You are not capable of having a gun. Your government knows best.


I don't think he would. I'll bet he likes to hunt.

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Aug 14, 2019 22:30:52   #
Mikeyavelli
 
dtucker300 wrote:
I don't think he would. I'll bet he likes to hunt.


Don't need a gun to hunt Soy Beans. Easy for him to sneak up on too. He ain't real smart.

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Aug 14, 2019 22:34:54   #
son of witless
 
permafrost wrote:
Sounds like a guy to see the next time also..

I have done a little looking, sorta convoluted, the wife wants what she had, but also would like a compact PU truck..

Will be a couple days yet before we get the last of the paperwork done, then will look for real..


I believe in putting the time in when searching for a car. I don't always do that. At least when I went to the dealers in the spring, I had a good idea of how much I wanted to spend and how much car I wanted. If I could have gotten a three wheeled, three cylinder puddle jumper I would have. Strictly a commuter car for work. The Versa ended up being bigger than I really needed, but so far I am happy. In 2015 when we bought the rogue my wife absolutely ordered me to buy her a high car. She was never going to drive a low riding car again. Also it had to be big enough for vacation trips.

You also need to be prepared to walk away. My father in law was the worst car shopper I ever knew. A salesman could pressure him into anything.

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