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Aug 14, 2019 14:37:33   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
son of witless wrote:
What type of car are you looking for ? Big, small, value, high, low, economy, high end. I picked up a 2018 left over Nissan Versa, last March.. The cheapest new car you can buy in America. I bought it strictly as a commuter car. We have a 2015 Rogue, my wife's car and our trip car. So far, knock on wood the Nissans have been pretty good.


Is my wifes car and she wants what she had, which is gone..

But I have looked a couple accords..

My problem is that I like a lot of cars.. hard to find one I do not like..

But I am committed to a small carbon print,so good MPG and low operating cost over the life is required.

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Aug 14, 2019 14:38:49   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Nope.



Gosh, your picture looks like an uncle i once had... are we related??

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Aug 14, 2019 15:11:41   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
permafrost wrote:
No one is trying to take our guns.. and no one will get mine..

but vast difference between gun confiscation and gun regulation..

I want to see something tried.. even if it is not the end all, let us at least try something..

But I do not expect anything.. after all if the murder of 20 little kids in a classroom can not move congress past the NRA, nothing will.


Not even the U.N.?

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Aug 14, 2019 15:46:12   #
Mikeyavelli
 
son of witless wrote:
I disagree with pretty much every word you wrote. In fact I have no idea where to start. Lets us go with the Car Companies. You seem to be under the false impression that when a Corporation goes into bankruptcy that they are out of business. nothing could be further from the truth.

Lets look at the big three Chrysler, Ford, and General Motors. I could be mistaken, but I think Ford did not take a bail out. That leaves us with Chrysler and GM. If they had gone under, that would still have left Ford and the foreign Car Companies that had production in the US, BUT GM and Chrysler were not going out of business.

In bankruptcy they would have survived. They would have gotten out of their expensive union contracts and come back. However, Obama bailed out the Unions by bailing out the Car Companies and keeping the Union contracts in force. So absolutely President Obama did not save the Automobile Industry.

" Solyndra was included in a program that made money for us, the taxpayers, we got a good return on the program.. excellent. "

I humbly ask for an explanation on that one because it makes my poor head spin.
I disagree with pretty much every word you wrote. ... (show quote)


Obama stiffed the bond holders of GM. Me. I will never buy a GM product.

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Aug 14, 2019 15:51:54   #
Mikeyavelli
 
permafrost wrote:
No one is trying to take our guns.. and no one will get mine..

but vast difference between gun confiscation and gun regulation..

I want to see something tried.. even if it is not the end all, let us at least try something..

But I do not expect anything.. after all if the murder of 20 little kids in a classroom can not move congress past the NRA, nothing will.


I wasn't the killer, but the lefties want to take my guns away from me for someone else's crime. The lefties really don't give a nadler about the crime, they just want to take everyone's guns away, and a registry or red flags or background checks is a big step in taking my guns away.

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Aug 14, 2019 17:21:38   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
permafrost wrote:
Gosh, your picture looks like an uncle i once had... are we related??


Everyone is related.

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Aug 14, 2019 17:31:39   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
permafrost wrote:
No one is trying to take our guns.. and no one will get mine..

but vast difference between gun confiscation and gun regulation..

I want to see something tried.. even if it is not the end all, let us at least try something..

But I do not expect anything.. after all if the murder of 20 little kids in a classroom can not move congress past the NRA, nothing will.


"You want to see something tried...even if it is not the end all,..."
Well, naturally, it won't be the end-all. It never is with the left.

Here's one to try on; approve more concealed carry permits in gun-free zones. There are hundreds of thousands of qualified people who can handle a weapon. Retired law enforcement. Off duty law enforcement. Some military, who are now in other professions; teachers, airline pilots, etc.

Some Democrats have suggested repealing the Second Amendment. If that isn't trying to take guns away then I have a beachfront lot in the middle of the desert you might be interested in buying.

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Aug 14, 2019 17:58:00   #
son of witless
 
permafrost wrote:
Is my wifes car and she wants what she had, which is gone..

But I have looked a couple accords..

My problem is that I like a lot of cars.. hard to find one I do not like..

But I am committed to a small carbon print,so good MPG and low operating cost over the life is required.


I have a 1999 Hyundai Accent that I am still putting money into, but at some point it won't be worth it. A water pump just went. I bought the Versa as a backup. In the spring the car dealers were especially hungry. I think they still are, so if you have the money it is not a bad time to shop. I got all kinds of rewards, mostly in the form of free maintenance certificates and I also got one for an extra hundred dollars for sending a friend of mine to the dealer and he bought a car.

A young guy from Puerto Rico sold me my car. He needed the sale and I needed a car as cheap as I could get one. Incentivized salesmen are great. I even got a free full tank of gas 4 weeks after I bought the car, which considering there was no longer anything in it for him, was a nice thing.

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Aug 14, 2019 19:06:47   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Not even the U.N.?




why do you fear the UN, they have no more ability to impose laws then the Sharia law which some fear for no reason..

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Aug 14, 2019 19:08:33   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
I wasn't the killer, but the lefties want to take my guns away from me for someone else's crime. The lefties really don't give a nadler about the crime, they just want to take everyone's guns away, and a registry or red flags or background checks is a big step in taking my guns away.




Your fear that someone may take away your guns is very unfounded..

Liberals own guns as well.. and no one will be taking my guns..

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Aug 14, 2019 19:14:23   #
Cuda2020
 
dtucker300 wrote:
What part of the auto industry was worth saving? GM? They still make crappy cars.


You'd rather support foreign cars?

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Aug 14, 2019 19:15:40   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
dtucker300 wrote:
"You want to see something tried...even if it is not the end all,..."
Well, naturally, it won't be the end-all. It never is with the left.

Here's one to try on; approve more concealed carry permits in gun-free zones. There are hundreds of thousands of qualified people who can handle a weapon. Retired law enforcement. Off duty law enforcement. Some military, who are now in other professions; teachers, airline pilots, etc.

Some Democrats have suggested repealing the Second Amendment. If that isn't trying to take guns away then I have a beachfront lot in the middle of the desert you might be interested in buying.
"You want to see something tried...even if it... (show quote)




so of course you chose to misunderstand my post..

Gun nuts like to say no to any regulation.. they say no law will stop criminals or solve the problem of the killings..

they are correct.. but I am fed up with refusing to try anything because it will not be 100% effective..
Nothing is.. but let us give some sort of effort to finding a few things which could help.. preventing one mass shooting would make it very worth while..

Guns in every pocket does not seem a reasonable idea.. in mpls we had an armed guy try to help the cops in a bar room shoot out back in the 70s, ended up shot by the cops. they had no idea he was a good guy..

No reasonable person is trying to repeal the 2nd amendment.. right wing/left wing... we will not allow such an action to happen..

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Aug 14, 2019 19:17:49   #
Cuda2020
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
I wasn't the killer, but the lefties want to take my guns away from me for someone else's crime. The lefties really don't give a nadler about the crime, they just want to take everyone's guns away, and a registry or red flags or background checks is a big step in taking my guns away.


If you don't have a record, if you're not diagnosed with a mental condition, and you have registered guns, no one from the left is coming for your guns, get it straight and stop buying the hype.

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Aug 14, 2019 19:18:41   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
permafrost wrote:
why do you fear the UN, they have no more ability to impose laws then the Sharia law which some fear for no reason..


Because they tried to pass the small arms treaty, but Congress was having none of it, but you already knew that. I said the U.N. because you said no one is trying to take our guns away.

Sharia law? Never say never. Maybe not in our lifetime but there will always be those who will keep trying.
Seventy years ago everyone thought socialism would never rear its' head in America.

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Aug 14, 2019 19:19:03   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
son of witless wrote:
I have a 1999 Hyundai Accent that I am still putting money into, but at some point it won't be worth it. A water pump just went. I bought the Versa as a backup. In the spring the car dealers were especially hungry. I think they still are, so if you have the money it is not a bad time to shop. I got all kinds of rewards, mostly in the form of free maintenance certificates and I also got one for an extra hundred dollars for sending a friend of mine to the dealer and he bought a car.

A young guy from Puerto Rico sold me my car. He needed the sale and I needed a car as cheap as I could get one. Incentivized salesmen are great. I even got a free full tank of gas 4 weeks after I bought the car, which considering there was no longer anything in it for him, was a nice thing.
I have a 1999 Hyundai Accent that I am still putti... (show quote)



Sounds like a guy to see the next time also..

I have done a little looking, sorta convoluted, the wife wants what she had, but also would like a compact PU truck..

Will be a couple days yet before we get the last of the paperwork done, then will look for real..

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