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Aug 10, 2019 08:03:53   #
rebob14
 
Kevyn wrote:
This is the legal definition of an assault rifle in the expired federal assault weapon ban. There is no debate or argument about it, this is the text of the law. Any other description is simply someone making something up because they don’t agree with or like the actual description.


Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Bayonet mount
Flash hider or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
Grenade launcher
Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
Barrel shroud safety feature that prevents burns to the operator
Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.
Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:
Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Detachable magazine.
This is the legal definition of an assault rifle i... (show quote)


EXPIRED

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Aug 10, 2019 09:04:34   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Can't, one was bolt, that's hardly semi!





PeterS wrote:
It's simpler to just call them semi-automatics.

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Aug 10, 2019 10:13:25   #
Abel
 
bmac32 wrote:
Any? Like a paintball gun?


Yes, even a paint-ball gun. Any weapon used to assault someone is an assault weapon, and that includes a rifle, a pistol, a BB gun, a hunting knife, a pen knife, a box cutter, a bow and arrow, a rock, a ball bat, a stick, a slingshot, a hammer, a 37 Chevy tire iron, a car, a truck, a surgeons scalpel, or even your bare hands or your teeth. Are you wanting to ban them all or just confuse people? Go figger!

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Aug 10, 2019 10:20:16   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
But the left seems to only want the AR banned! Personally I like my bolt action, not going to war.





Abel wrote:
Yes, even a paint-ball gun. Any weapon used to assault someone is an assault weapon, and that includes a rifle, a pistol, a BB gun, a hunting knife, a pen knife, a box cutter, a bow and arrow, a rock, a ball bat, a stick, a slingshot, a hammer, a 37 Chevy tire iron, a car, a truck, a surgeons scalpel, or even your bare hands or your teeth. Are you wanting to ban them all or just confuse people? Go figger!

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Aug 10, 2019 12:53:39   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
bmac32 wrote:
What is an assault rifle?

Simple question. OK. Simple answer.

According to Wikipedia: "An assault rifle is a selective-fire rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine. Assault rifles were first used during World War II. Though Western nations were slow to accept the assault rifle concept, by the end of the 20th century they had become the standard weapon in most of the world's armies, replacing full-powered rifles and sub-machine guns in most roles. Examples include the StG 44, AK-47 and the M16 rifle."

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Aug 10, 2019 16:18:59   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
bmac32 wrote:
Simple question, now answer it.


You have Congress and the Senate's misguided view of what an assault rifle is, the military's and others one came close, but nobody really defined it. It could be because you don't want to tip-off too many that you can say.

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Aug 10, 2019 16:41:16   #
teabag09
 
Kevyn wrote:
This is the legal definition of an assault rifle in the expired federal assault weapon ban. There is no debate or argument about it, this is the text of the law. Any other description is simply someone making something up because they don’t agree with or like the actual description.


Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Bayonet mount
Flash hider or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
Grenade launcher
Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
Barrel shroud safety feature that prevents burns to the operator
Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.
Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:
Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Detachable magazine.
This is the legal definition of an assault rifle i... (show quote)


Wrong again Kevy. That's the definition the lefties gave. Read below for the real definition. Mike

The U.S. Army defines assault rifles as "short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between submachine gun and rifle cartridges."[16] In this strict definition, a firearm must have at least the following characteristics to be considered an assault rifle:[2][3][4]

It must be capable of selective fire.
It must have an intermediate-power cartridge: more power than a pistol but less than a standard rifle or battle rifle, such as the 7.92×33mm Kurz, the 7.62x39mm and the 5.56x45mm NATO.
Its ammunition must be supplied from a detachable box magazine.[5]
It must have an effective range of at least 300 metres (330 yards).
Rifles that meet most of these criteria, but not all, are technically not assault rifles, despite frequently being called such.

For example:

Select-fire M2 Carbines are not assault rifles; their effective range is only 200 yards.[17]
Select-fire rifles such as the FN FAL battle rifle are not assault rifles; they fire full-powered rifle cartridges.
Semi-automatic-only rifles like the Colt AR-15 are not assault rifles; they do not have select-fire capabilities.
Semi-automatic-only rifles with fixed magazines like the SKS are not assault rifles; they do not have detachable box magazines and are not capable of automatic fire.

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Aug 10, 2019 17:05:46   #
badbob85037
 
bmac32 wrote:
Simple question, now answer it.


Any rifle I hit you over the head with and will fire a thousand rounds with a single pull of the trigger in half a second. Ask a hard one, I just brushed up on 'The Brady Center Facts on 30 Firearm Questions You Don't Need the Answers'

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Aug 10, 2019 17:30:06   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
PeterS wrote:
But they are used as assault rifles and the principle you people want them is so you feel like you can overthrow the next Liberal Despot--which you think your misunderstood view of the constitution gives you the right to do.

So since their application for you is the same as an assault rifle in the military the nomenclature should be the same especially since you once boasted of being able to walk out the door with how many hundreds of rounds of ammo? One wouldn't make such boasts unless one intended to do some serious assaulting...which I believe was the point you were making...

But to hell with all that. Let's just ban all semi-auto weapons and nomenclature be hanged...
But they are used as assault rifles and the princi... (show quote)
This is really old stuff, Pete, purely subjective and worn very thin. You should go back to square one and take a new approach, explore options, drop the assumptions and superfluous talking points, reason things out, apply some of that super logic you are famous for, and work with it until you get it right.

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Aug 11, 2019 01:19:58   #
Reruho
 
Simplest terms an assault rifle is a rapid-fire, magazine-fed automatic rifle designed for infantry use.
Assault rifles and assault weapons are different terms and not interchangeable. It is important to understand what an assault weapon isn't. The terms "assault weapon" and "assault rifle" are often confused. According to Bruce H. Kobayashi and Joseph E. Olson, writing in the Stanford Law and Policy Review:
Prior to 1989, the term "assault weapon" did not exist in the lexicon of firearms. It is a political term, developed by anti-gun publicists to expand the category of "assault rifles."
Politicians had to invent a term in order to outlaw it.

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Aug 11, 2019 01:27:45   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Reruho wrote:
Simplest terms an assault rifle is a rapid-fire, magazine-fed automatic rifle designed for infantry use.
Assault rifles and assault weapons are different terms and not interchangeable. It is important to understand what an assault weapon isn't. The terms "assault weapon" and "assault rifle" are often confused. According to Bruce H. Kobayashi and Joseph E. Olson, writing in the Stanford Law and Policy Review:
Prior to 1989, the term "assault weapon" did not exist in the lexicon of firearms. It is a political term, developed by anti-gun publicists to expand the category of "assault rifles."
Politicians had to invent a term in order to outlaw it.
Simplest terms an assault rifle is a rapid-fire, m... (show quote)
You got it.

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Aug 11, 2019 17:54:03   #
F.D.R.
 
Kevyn wrote:
This is the legal definition of an assault rifle in the expired federal assault weapon ban. There is no debate or argument about it, this is the text of the law. Any other description is simply someone making something up because they don’t agree with or like the actual description.


Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Bayonet mount
Flash hider or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
Grenade launcher
Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
Barrel shroud safety feature that prevents burns to the operator
Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.
Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:
Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Detachable magazine.
This is the legal definition of an assault rifle i... (show quote)


That's why it was allowed to expire. I covers pretty much most popular weapons.

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Aug 11, 2019 19:26:03   #
Abel
 
bmac32 wrote:
But the left seems to only want the AR banned! Personally I like my bolt action, not going to war.


A lot of them don't speak English so they're confused.

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Aug 12, 2019 10:47:31   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
PeterS wrote:
But they are used as assault rifles and the principle you people want them is so you feel like you can overthrow the next Liberal Despot--which you think your misunderstood view of the constitution gives you the right to do.

So since their application for you is the same as an assault rifle in the military the nomenclature should be the same especially since you once boasted of being able to walk out the door with how many hundreds of rounds of ammo? One wouldn't make such boasts unless one intended to do some serious assaulting...which I believe was the point you were making...

But to hell with all that. Let's just ban all semi-auto weapons and nomenclature be hanged...
But they are used as assault rifles and the princi... (show quote)


So you want to ban semi-automatic rifles? Legally, that would apply to future manufacture after a certain date. Everything before that would be "pre-ban" and legal, but worth a whole lot more $$. Isn't capitalism great!! I wonder what you could get for 30 round magazines after this law goes into effect? A whole lot, I'll bet.

Keep coming up with more intelligent ideas.

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