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Jul 27, 2019 14:31:28   #
PeterS
 
trucksterbud wrote:
Strange thing Petey, the Mueller report and the Mueller testimony both cleared Trump. Of course I know in the world of liberal moonbats TRUTH means nothing, just more strange fiction.

Get over it. Like the rest of the DimmoCrapp claprattle, it is going to come back and bite them … DimmoCrapps just don't learn. Hate to think of what that means for you if you are a DimmoCrapp….

How did it clear Trump? Explain how he was exonerated...

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Jul 27, 2019 14:47:31   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
PeterS wrote:
How did it clear Trump? Explain how he was exonerated...


It didn't show him to be guilty of anything.

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Jul 27, 2019 15:55:08   #
steve66613
 
PeterS wrote:
How did it clear Trump? Explain how he was exonerated...


The “cons” all learned that EXONERATED isn’t a legal term. As usual, the “progs” didn’t learn a damn thing!

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Jul 27, 2019 16:30:19   #
PeterS
 
steve66613 wrote:
The “cons” all learned that EXONERATED isn’t a legal term. As usual, the “progs” didn’t learn a damn thing!

So you can't prove how Trump was shown to be innocent because exonerated isn't a legal term? Oh, I see the game you play. A clever way of protecting your Trumpen Fuhrer...

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Jul 27, 2019 16:31:16   #
PeterS
 
archie bunker wrote:
It didn't show him to be guilty of anything.

All that means is you didn't watch it. You are a conservative. I never expected you would...

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Jul 27, 2019 16:36:18   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
PeterS wrote:
All that means is you didn't watch it. You are a conservative. I never expected you would...


I know, huh? Us conservatives have jobs. Can't hardly lay around the house watching C-Span scratching our nuts, and eating government funded potato chips while we go out, work, pay taxes, and feed our own families now, can we?

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Jul 27, 2019 16:40:46   #
PeterS
 
proud republican wrote:
After Mueller's fiasco on Wed, nothing have changed...Still more people are against impeaching President Trump...But like i said before,go ahead and try to impeach President Trump,2020 is ours in any case..."Its an Economy,stupid!" And his economy approval is at 52% highest ever and unless something very drastic happens before 2020 when it comes to Economy Trump wins his reelection for 4 more years!!!

Do you mean when people learn that GDP under Trump is less than it was under Obama? What do you think that Fox News poll will do then???

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Jul 27, 2019 16:43:40   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
PeterS wrote:
How did it clear Trump? Explain how he was exonerated...


According to US Legal, exoneration refers to a court order that discharges a person from liability. In criminal context the term exonerate refers to a state where a person convicted of a crime is later proved to be innocent.

According to University of California Irvine Newkirk Center for Science & Society, University of Michigan Law School & Michigan State University College of Law, an exoneration occurs when a person who has been convicted of a crime is officially cleared based on new evidence of innocence.

A person has been exonerated if he or she was convicted of a crime and, following a post-conviction re-examination of the evidence in the case, was either: (1) declared to be factually innocent by a government official or agency with the authority to make that declaration; or (2) relieved of all the consequences of the criminal conviction by a government official or body with the authority to take that action.

According to Black's Law Dictionary, to exonerate someone is to remove the stain of being called out for blame, liability, or punishment. It is more that just freeing an accused person of the responsibility for a criminal or otherwise illegal or wrongful act. It is publicly stating that the accused should never have been accused in the first place.

Under our American system of justice, a person ACCUSED of a crime is innocent until proven guilty by trial in a court of law, and the burden of proof is upon the ACCUSER. (See "absolve" and "acquit")

Under our American system of justice, following an investigation in which the investigating agency feels sufficient evidence justifies prosecution, the investigating agency must submit an indictment of the ACCUSED to a grand jury or to the proper court. At this point, the investigating agency's job is over.

Under our American system of justice, a grand jury will convene to determine if the evidence is in fact sufficient to prosecute, or the proper court will convene to try the case.

Put simply,

Donald Trump was ACCUSED of the crime of obstruction of justice.
The investigating agency did not find sufficient evidence to justify issuing an indictment.
Therefore, no grand jury was convened to review the evidence, and no court was convened to prosecute.
Therefore, since Donald Trump WAS NOT convicted of the charges, and since to "exonerate" is publicly stating that the accused should never have been accused in the first place, under its legal definition "exoneration" does not apply in this case.

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Jul 27, 2019 16:45:02   #
Gatsby
 
PeterS wrote:
How are you pulling these numbers out of your ass? Your first comparison is to the 4th quarter GDP when the promise by Trump was 3% or better. So shouldn't the comparison be to Trump's promise? Is there a reason you don't want to make your comparison to what Trump promised? After all, he is a man who keeps his promises correct!

In case you've forgotten here is Trump tweet on his predictions: "The economy now has hit 3 percent. Nobody thought we'd be anywhere close. I think we can go to 4, 5, and maybe even 6 percent." - Donald Trump, Dec. 16, 2017

So we should be hitting 4%, 5%, or 6% not the 2.2% that it hit. 2.2% is a number that was common under Obama. If your hero is no better than Obama then admit it. If he can't then don't try to sugar coat his abysmal failures...especially when, even after his tax cut, is not better than a man you painted as a failure...
How are you pulling these numbers out of your ass?... (show quote)


NWOR

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Jul 27, 2019 16:49:38   #
PeterS
 
archie bunker wrote:
I know, huh? Us conservatives have jobs. Can't hardly lay around the house watching C-Span scratching our nuts, and eating government funded potato chips while we go out, work, pay taxes, and feed our own families now, can we?

Thanks for verifying the fact that you haven't a clue what you are talking about. I never lay around eating potato chips (my cardiologist cut them from my diet) and the taxes I pay quarterly from my business more than pay for my right to watch every second of the Mueller Report.

Instead of working for someone else why didn't you start a business and doing something productive instead working like a chump and selling your productivity to someone else...

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Jul 27, 2019 16:51:51   #
steve66613
 
PeterS wrote:
So you can't prove how Trump was shown to be innocent because exonerated isn't a legal term? Oh, I see the game you play. A clever way of protecting your Trumpen Fuhrer...


Lets see....not guilty of “collusion” (another non-legal term) BUT guilty of obstruction.

Prove to me how one would obstruct a non-existent crime.

That would be like saying: “you’re not a dumb @ss, but, when you’re called a dumb @ss; you said you aren’t.

Regardless, you know what you are.

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Jul 27, 2019 17:07:42   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
PeterS wrote:
Thanks for verifying the fact that you haven't a clue what you are talking about. I never lay around eating potato chips (my cardiologist cut them from my diet) and the taxes I pay quarterly from my business more than pay for my right to watch every second of the Mueller Report.

Instead of working for someone else why didn't you start a business and doing something productive instead working like a chump and selling your productivity to someone else...


Always gotta be insulting don't you, wealthy, crippled old slum lord!!
And, just FYI, I had my own business for about 14 years until I was too badly injured to carry on with it. I was doing MAN stuff, not cheating the government, and tenants like you do. And, what I'm doing now, and what I've been doing for years benefits you, personally.

So, pound sand my friend. Pound tons of sand!!

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Jul 27, 2019 17:11:47   #
PeterS
 
archie bunker wrote:
What would they impeach him for Pete? And, you're right. Muler proved him innocent, so some bogus attempt at impeachment would make the dims look dumber than they already do.
Or, did Muler find him innocent? He certainly didn't find him guilty.
Yall need to pray that nonads cools his jets, and shifthead stops his lying soon. To me, your team is looking like a desperate bunch of bumbling fools.

Sorry, but I missed this one. Mueller showed ten instances where Trump obstructed Justice...I believe that one was all that was necessary to impeach Bill Clinton. There is much more but that is enough for impeachment. And here is a transcript of Muller's testimony. Give it a read if you want to know the truth. Of course, if you don't I fully understand why you couldn't do it...and that's just SAD...just saying...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/full-transcript-robert-mueller-house-committee-testimony-n1033216

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Jul 27, 2019 17:15:51   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
archie bunker wrote:
Always gotta be insulting don't you, wealthy, crippled old slum lord!!
And, just FYI, I had my own business for about 14 years until I was too badly injured to carry on with it. I was doing MAN stuff, not cheating the government, and tenants like you do. And, what I'm doing now, and what I've been doing for years benefits you, personally.

So, pound sand my friend. Pound tons of sand!!


That what Rats do, they ugly creatures ,they insult because that's all they have to give...I am sooooo glad i never joined Rats' Party since i came to United States...

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Jul 27, 2019 17:21:59   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
PeterS wrote:
Sorry, but I missed this one. Mueller showed ten instances where Trump obstructed Justice...I believe that one was all that was necessary to impeach Bill Clinton. There is much more but that is enough for impeachment. And here is a transcript of Muller's testimony. Give it a read if you want to know the truth. Of course, if you don't I fully understand why you couldn't do it...and that's just SAD...just saying...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/full-transcript-robert-mueller-house-committee-testimony-n1033216
Sorry, but I missed this one. Mueller showed ten i... (show quote)


Potential obstruction..not the same....And if somebody accused you of basically being treasonous and obstructing you in every way possible, wouldn't you be pissed off too????And when people upset they often lash out at people closest to them...That's what Trump did...There was no obstruction,because even Mueller agreed that President Trump let him finish investigation, let his people be interviewed, gave Mueller's team millions of docs..What else do you want him to do????

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